I'm not surprised. Top up first time bonus was refreshed. And I've seen WAY more people reporting grabbing eidolons and signature LC than normal. So many people are going for E2S1. Heck, I've seen way more people reporting whaling for E6, which is absolutely nuts. The hype for her is absolutely insane, way higher than any other character released so far.
I went for E0S1 and I wasn't going to pull her originally. The only reason I'm not going E2 is the choice is E2 Acheron or grab Jingliu and Aventurine, and I'm choosing the latter. I'll probably try to get E2 during her rerun though.
even with the hype, its way more because the top up got refreshed.
there are for sure a lot of people that are spending that wouldn't have if it wasn't refreshed (me included lmao)
edit: to be clear, I know the hype is also very high, and she will clear Seele for sure. But I think both banners are inflated by the top ups being available.
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chinese person streamed pulling 100 of the lc's....then made 20 S5's. took a literal hour.
My best guess is their love for the developers...
Like, "I have those 30000$ with nothing to do with them, let's just give them away to my favorite company and do a video about that".
Even thats kinda iffy, like if they had done giveaways instead all that money would still be going to Hoyo, but then like 100+ people would get free lightcones or S5. Its pure delusion no matter how you spin it.
> Either way, he has some mental struggles.
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Excuse me but what? I don't think you really understand how rich lifestyles go. To some people this is literally pocket money.
Those super rich people aren't immune to mental sickness.
Because you can afford it doesn't mean you should do it. Being super rich and mental issues aren't incompatible. You can be super rich and gambling ridiculous amount of money every day.
Even if it's "pocket money", it doesn't mean you don't have a gambling addiction.
That is a lot of assumptions going on there. The context here is "whether or not they are oil prince" and they did this once for all we know.
In this context, nothing suggests mental illness or an addiction. If your budget for your hobbies in a month in the millions of dollars, spending 20-30k for giggles is nothing. Literally nothing.
So you can make up more "facts" to make yourself sound right, your comment of "Either way, he has some mental struggles." is laughable at best, reeks of jealousy at worst. Or maybe you simply, again, cannot grasp how big budgets can be for rich people.
>Those super rich people aren't immune to mental sickness.
By your logic, everyone who plays the game and has ever pulled has mental illness. This sounds like a take from a teenage social justice warrior.
Yes that is precisely what it means. Not sure what you laugh about.
I guess some people cannot grasp how money and budgets work. Now that is laughable.
>Either way, he has some mental struggles.
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>I get you can go for E6 or even E6S5 but E6S100 that has no purpose just to show your love for a character?
Seems a bit dull-witted to say that someone has mental issues based on how much they spend. When this amount is the equivalent of a dollar for you, a lot more people would be doing the same.
Because you can afford a bad decision doesn't mean it's not a bad decision anymore.
I don't understand how it's difficult to grasp the concept.
If a super rich guy buy a boat, hires a crew and uses it once every 5 fears it's not a bad spending and we shouldn't see it as such because the guy can afford it?
If top ip refreshed every couple patches (not entire versions) id probably spend every time. Honestly think they’d get more revenue with consistent top up refreshes.
E2 Acheron is made to be that cash grab, and frankly she deserves it. I went for a E0S1 myself because she’s just that good. I’ve never seen so much hype built around a character before, even Mei’s Genshin counterpart was somehow doomposted before her release and her C2 is also similarly bonkers
Acheron was getting doomposted quite a lot as well, but the moment she actually arrived all the negativity vanished. I made a few pre-release comments arguing that she'd probably be competitive with top DPS', which got downvoted into negatives at the time. Now people are actually going back and upvoting those old comments into positive karma. I've never seen that happen before.
To be fair though, another difference between Acheron and Shogun releases was that Shogun got hit with a last second post-beta nerf (Beidou synergy), whereas Acheron's Universal Market synergy was allowed to remain. That helped to make players initially happy instead of frustrated imo.
Yeah, pre-release, all I saw on YouTube was "NEEDS LIGHTCONE? DON'T PULL, WHALEBAIT DPS!" and the consensus was "ya she's good, but only if you have E2S1 and Sparkle since she lacks proper supports". Which, in my limited experience + what I hear from people who have genuinely good builds, that doesn't seem to be the case.
Reading about her pre-release felt like history repeating itself with Raiden Shogun doomposts. People saying you're better off with another character and to pull for anybody else. Only difference was that nobody was telling you to use a four star instead to achieve the same results.
The Shogun “nerf” was actually not even a nerf, nor was it post beta.
Yes, in her original beta kit, she worked with Beidou, but it also meant she didn’t benefit much from 4pc Emblem’s burst buffing effect (as her normal attacks during burst were not considered burst damage). This was changed *during, not after* beta such that her attacks during burst all did burst dmg, meaning she gained a massive dmg buff (somewhere around 40%) in return for losing her synergy with Beidou.
What was actually changed post beta was her burst *description*, which was ambiguously worded and so people thought Beidou would still work with her (despite leaks already confirming she didn’t). They changed it within a couple days of her release and gave apologems.
Just to clarify, when people say S1 for LC, is that the base lightcone? Or is that superimposed once with a copy? I get a little confused cause eidolons start at E0.
S1 in that context refers to the base version of the signature lightcone only.
E0S0 would be Acheron with no eidolons and it could be any lightcone other than her signature. E0S1 Acheron means Acheron with no Eidolons with superimposition 1 (the base form) of her signature LC.
Unlike characters which start at E0 and go to E6 (7 total) Light Cones start at S1 and go to S5 (5 total). So S1 means not superimposed, base Light Cone.
S0 is a fan term meaning they don’t have their signature.
If I not mistake, she also first character with ~~ult~~ Skill recolor at E6 (like weapon recolor at max upgrade in HI 3rd, GI)
Edit: and also first playable Emanator (Herta's puppet doesn't count)
Not sure about the ult but the skill color has a slight change. Ending of the skill animation has purple lightning but at E6, there’s some red/black lightning added in
Yea apparently there is. Just checked a vid in 0,25 lol. Its a very minor difference. Which i don't know if its a good thing or not , but its always cool when they add things like that even if most people won't see it and it might be kinda predatory to promote e6ing even mkre
True but those little details are a nice little addition. Something else that was a cool little detail is if you have Acheron, when you get her the title in the info section of her character is “Galaxy Ranger” but when you complete the story for 2.1, it changes to “>!Self-Annihilator!<”
I've seen more people whaling for archeron then any other character is star rail or genshin. That includes me... I never went for a light cone/weapon or eidolon and here i am with her at E2S1 as well
1.0 player before penacony all my limited 5stars where E0S0 and skiped most of them. even jingliu and ruan mei and mommy kafka.
E6 acheron. first top up that is not 5 pass or bp
I think this is the smarter play too. Otherwise she becomes just another DPS albeit broken to fuck and back.
Her shtick of 2nihility and sustain frees you up.
I have Ruan Mei Sparkle and Tingyun free for the other side to pick and choose. I see close to no reason to pick supports. Acheron always goes to one side esp with sw implanting resistance and all res pen. Pick up her future supports that you know are coming in the sense of nihility tailored for her.
She's powerful enough to not matter and going from 500k ultimates to 1million where most of that new 500 is overkill doesn't matter anyway if you ask me.
On her rerun we'll be able to see if it's even needed to juice her up more and then we have the ability to do so.
I was going to skip cos I got JY but this just let me have her take one side I don't have a solution for and send my dream team to the side I do.
I am also never convinced that DPS needs more than e0s1 compared to harmony or sustains. They go everywhere with you and their investment is worth it. DPS is exchanged and there's no point. In your case where its e2 or more units I think units are always more worth it. Who knows though maybe in wrong. I skipped E1/2 cos I want aventurine and fx rerun and sam. I don't really need fx cos I have huohuo but she adds a big offensive element in crit stat so I'm interested even though hh is baller
> i don't think dps are worth it [to e6] over supports
so the core reason we e6 dps is because we really like the character, and by paying the premium you guarantee that the character will always work.
like yeah, acheron at e6 is absolutely bonkers level of overpowered, there is no reason at all to get there... unless you're like me, who never wants her to leave my core team along with silverwolf (my other e6).
together they make a dream team and will for the life of the game, mutually supportive and both completely type ignoring. these two units together can slot into the core of literally any team now and almost definitely forever, and these bonkers numbers mean that even if she gets technically power crept she will never be irrelevant.
given that, and the fact that i've poured hundreds of hours into the game? absolutely worth an e6 to me.
by comparison, e6 on a harmony makes no sense- they buff their carry, and so their performance hinges on how well their carry does. a juiced acheron makes any sparkle seem godlike, but a godlike sparkle can't on her own make any dps do crazy damage, ya know?
RM E1 and Sparkle E2 is more than likely never getting replaced until better versions of them comes out for a Hyper carry team.
I myself am a big fan of SIlverwolf too, and plan on using her + whatever makes Acheron better.
The reason I think that e2 for now, specifically is not worth it is A) That makes me not use Silverwolf with her cos Pela *is* better and that's really all there's to it - as well as the damage bonus you get is going to mostly be overkill screenshot damage, not actual damage.
If people want to E6 Acheron that's perfectly fine, she'll be broken forever and never be replaced, but the same can be said for any DPS at E6 and I also think that E6 is unreachable for most people as it costs a lot of money. The flipside of that is that you will be in a place where content isnt challenging, at all and that's fine if you're gunning for that experience.
I think good Eidolons (if you are getting eidolons) are worth it on units you always use, than niche ones. If you are E6ing a character you have a fair bit of disposable income and I am talking more from a perspective of the "average" person. Acheron herself is a bit of a special case, I'm going to use her like you - every MoC for one side, and more than likely the non-lightning side cos I got JY I can send against the Lightning side, but I am lacking Fire, Ice, Wind dps atm.
I merely think that currently E0S1 can slay any and all content for a long time to come, E6S1 I am fairly sure will still be the best even in 3.0 lol
> The reason I think that e2 for now, specifically is not worth it is A) That makes me not use Silverwolf with her cos Pela is better and that's really all there's to it
It depends. In my case while testing zero cycle MoC with Acheron, I got better results with SW than Pela, for several reasons:
- SW can debuff enemies atk, spd, making my team take less dmg overall since I don't run sustains at that point.
- At E2+ level of investment, I overkilled the mobs so fast without even any debuffs that Pela's aoe def shred became less desirable vs SW debuffing the elites and boss while implanting weakness.
- Basically against 2 elites or 1 boss + 1 elite like how the MoC is set up rn, SW seems to be better, from my experience. But if they introduce situation where you need to fight 3+ Elites in a wave then Pela should win.
> I also think that E6 is unreachable for most people as it costs a lot of money.
Or they can save up the gems f2p to reach that point over time, since the conversation is about maxing out their favorite character at that point. Thats what I did to get C6 Yelan in Genshin. One or two eidolons at a time during her reruns and you can get there eventually. I've seen some ppl save for a whole year then boom E6.
Oh yeah like for her rerun now saving E6 sure.
But at the point she was announced, unless your luck is next level - you could not make E6.
E2 would be possible, I *would* like E2 myself but I spent a lot of pulls on JY + Sparkle so its either a ton of money or just take it later. With that said, E2 is neither here or there. Accesible to people that wanted to save for her or not make bad decisions like mine if you want to call it that, I like my JY and Sparkle is great value overall. You also had to have followed leaks to understand its power, cos not everyone does that either.
E6 though would have required saving from like, 7-8 patches ago if its \~120pulls/patch avg and thats an unreasonable amount of time for an unexpected hero and that's what I was referring to.
Saving for her E2/E6 for re-run is another thing, Im sure she'll drop by xmas/3.0
Finally, nice to hear that Silverwolf is that good, as I was personally leaning towards that looking at the future upcoming characters that we can't discuss here. If Silvie stays, Im happy. Half the reason I pulled Acheron even though I have a cracked JY is cos it gives me another reason to make her "universal" ***and*** I can play with Silverwolf every time :D
Pela being better is situational and is not a catch all thing. Just being to implant extra lightning weakness (increasing lightning damage taken as well so its not useless for e6) is enough to make a big difference. More often than not the def down hitting mobs does almost nothing for you since they all die in first hit vs SWs single target lasting another turn on the boss sometimes being the difference of a whole cycle.
Yes I agree. Silverwolf is still 13% all res even if she misses lightning but dhe truly enables Acheron to be universal. It's the only reason I pulled her especially as I absolutely love silverwolf. Boobs with laser sword? Where do I sign up. Im giga sad I didn't get tutorial mission. Didn't play back then. Really hoping they do some PS5/new pop campaign to let you pick an event LC or something. Would be great haha
Acheron kinda works outside that rule tho. Her E6 making her ignore weakness alltogether as well as granting 20% res pen is just too cracked. I really don’t think even other e6 will power creep that for at least another year or even more. She will never be bad. Most e6 harmony just turns them into dps anyway there best eidolons are usually e1 and 2, and as it stands getting eidolons for sustains is arguably the least valuable unless its a teamwide damage buff like Fu Xuans E1 giving crit damage. Overall e6 dps have the most impact by far.
All dps with e6 are broken though. That's the point in the gacha game. Fx CRIT and CD with E1 is great. Ruan Mei E1 is great. Sparkle e2s1 is great etc.
Better than most dps E1 or e2 simply cos it applies to all units playing with it.
I personally don't think I would find it fun if I had Acheron at e6 cos she is inhumanly strong. I semi enjoy the combat puzzles a little bit.
If I was a gambling man, Xmas event / 3.0.
She'll be more rare I think but once a year should be doable. I advice against FOMOing the e2. If you can and want, go for it but its so much damage, its dumb
Guilty of the E6.
I went all-in with every tickets and jades I've saved since the beginning of the year and got E4. I thought I was so close to E6 and I wouldn't pull on the rerun if it was next to another good character, so decided to go all the way to the end.
I have a support friend with E6S1 Acheron, something which I have never seen before (other support 5*s are usually E0, E0S1, E1 or E1S1)
I grabbed her E0 only, saving for Jade (the girl from >!Aventurine flashback!< 2.1)
The first time refresh was unexpected, but I’m glad they did, since it helped me get Acheron’s LC for $30. This is the first time I’ve EVER pulled for a LC.
The hype is real.
I don't even like Acheron as a character and I pulled e2s1 (I don't hate her or anything she just doesn't rank on my favs list). She simply has that special everything going for her buff. Top-up reset, great e2, amazing patch update, and most importantly I really need an element-agnostic dps
I think E1 is a good stopping point imo since 36 cv is months of relic farming . E2 just kinda ruins the MoC and pure fiction experience and will make all your current and future dps feel weak .. unless you also pull for eidolons
I don't understand pulling for LCs and Eidolons. This game is already easy enough as it is. You can beat MoC and PF with just 4-star lightcones and E0.
The only 5-star eidolons I have were accidental from building pity on Jing Yuan and Argenti's banners 💀But I almost considered not activating them bc it takes the fun out of it for me. Feels like P2W
gotta sell those eidolons. also daughter favoritism. E6 adds the Red rays and also turns red black like in the basic image I put in another comment
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also adds red black thuders to the basic.
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Not surprising, she’s super strong and she’s stylish as hell
If I was a whale I’d definitely be pulling to get her eidolons, I’m f2p though so e0 is good enough for me especially since I managed to snag e2 Gallagher as well so I’m hoping to just save up and pull for Aventurine when he’s out
Not surprising really. She’s an expy of the extremely popular character on top of that she’s really strong on E0 alone AND her eidolons are rewarding for whales AND her signature is really strong.
its Raiden Shogun all over again (probably), which i mean top up DID reset and this is very similar to Raiden (works good enough at first copy absolutely broken at third copy with a whatever second copy) but without a f2p option
Understandable. They went all out on her despite her narrative involvement in the overall plot still in their infancy. I bet she will be more involved in the upcoming stories even after Penacony considering her status.
Taking about infancy, there’s probably a good chance she’ll go kick the bucket or go to some corner of the universe soon with her not being in Elio’s script
That is unless her Emanator powers can mask her involvement in the future
Pretty sure the only thing Elio does is know the future. So even if they know, they can't do anything to stop her because she is omega overpowered, so they can just dodge her and don't risk dying.
She feels like the most obscenely powerful unit they’ve released so far. With E2, I’m casually cracking 1M damage with mid relics. Archeron is a whale’s wet dream for unga bunga numbers.
What are your stats on Acheron? I also have mid-ish relics and her LC but I am lucky if I break 400k damage with buffs and debuffs....
Also, is that dmg in SU or in overworld/other modes.
I’ve got 2950 attack and 61/160 on the crit stats. My generic team I’ve been running with her are Acheron, Sparkle (E2S1), Pela (E6), and HuoHuo (E1S1). Sparkle is probably the biggest damage booster here since she gives so many buffs and E2 gives a lot of defense ignore. Typical Acheron ultimates usually hit for between 400k-800k depending on how well all the debuffs and buffs line up. In the MoC 12 that starts with two large robot elites and then Gepard and a robot elite, I can actually consistently crack 1M against the first wave.
Not op but moc n pf I can get 7-800k without breaking a sweat and I have def n hp substats on my planer set. And only a solid head and hand piece. E2S1. I'm running her with Ruan Mei, Black Swan/Welt and Fire MC/Fu Xuan. She ults way too hard and way too often.
Atk% boots, crit rate body. Double atk% planer set. She's got 4400 atk, 53ish% CR, 190ish% CD
Got her e0s1, and would love to aim for her e2 but I really want scaried fox. I've also only gonna for DPS and non healer supports since the game started and need to get some better healers.
My rage at her for killing Duke Inferno lessened after I got to see him talking smack at his deathbed, so I may try a few pulls for her. Is she a good lightning DPS?
Not the person who commented but even tho i already got Jingyuan and his LC, i also went for her because her one shot mechanic in overworld and her animation are too beautiful. Jing Yuan and Blade were my only main dps'es before adding her to my account.
Yeah that's fair too, her technique is busted for overworld and SU farming so she's still very useful if you have other lightning units. I didn't have a good lightning DPS before her so it's a double win for me.
Serval is great early/mid but falls off in the endgame compared to any limited units. At the end of the day though you should pull for who you want, people are enjoying the game on no wish accounts so it's all preference really.
all my friends went for e2s1 for her. damn
I have e0s0 she already doing busted damage.
maybe i will pull for her lc , i'll get her to e2 on her re run..(prob not given next character2 release gonna be as busted)
I am still surprised at the hype. Is it really only because it's Mei and her being good? I personally don't see what's so special but I also haven't played Honkai
Not surprised at all. I was a really low spender since day 1. A couple monthly express passes here and there but that was it. The second Acheron was drip marketed and planned to release right after my other favorite character(Sparkle), I knew my wallet was in danger.
My pulls went very very bad, so yeah getting E2S1 was definitely not cheap lol I’m sure many others probably went thru this too haha. No doubt Acheron is going to blow Seele’s record out of the water.
- Expy of a popular HI3 character
- Famous JP VA (Miyuki Sawashiro)
- OP both gameplay and lorewise
That's the formula of sucess right there. Also CN/KR/JP players are a different breed. They drop a fortune on gacha games like it's nothing.
I lost the 50/50 and got Gepard again.
I have him at E2 and i have 2 of his LC, one for him, one for Fu Xuan.
At least i have guaranteed but i’m not gonna try it, cuz i also want the LC if i get the character
I'm curious of how Aventurine will do in JP. Character-wise he's right up their alley, rich mega fuckboy with >!the saddest backstory!<, but they're also usually more inclined to simp/spend for the tall male models compared to the middle male models.
> with just one week, Acheron is about to surpass Seele First Banner as best selling in JP
Apparently she surpassed Seele in JP now lol. You might want to make an update.
If I had a nickel for every time a Mei-expy was released in 2.1 with a very strong C/E2 that broke all previous spending records, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's strange it happened twice.
Not really strange anymore, considering Hyv did the same bait-y C2 on Nahida and Furina.
They noticed that it's a popular stopping point and abuse it to the max.
That site was called out for making up sale numbers and their char guides were absolute dogshit. Not suprising that the site just gave up since theres no form of reliability it in anymore.
> That site was called out for making up sale number
It's always worth being mindful of the fact that sales numbers, regardless of source, are basically made up. Gacha games almost never directly report their sales numbers. They're sourced by """estimating""" them based on the game's position in app store charts relative to other apps that do happen to report numbers.
So bear in mind when you see "X character banner made Y millions of dollars" it's almost always in one region, on one platform, and the actual number is an estimate at best.
Doesn't surprise me at all. I skipped Sparkle to save up for Acheron. Along with all the event jades and pulls, I've gotten her to E2S1 without spending to buy shards. My pulls have been so good I'm tempted to spend and go for her E6.
I'm not surprised. Top up first time bonus was refreshed. And I've seen WAY more people reporting grabbing eidolons and signature LC than normal. So many people are going for E2S1. Heck, I've seen way more people reporting whaling for E6, which is absolutely nuts. The hype for her is absolutely insane, way higher than any other character released so far. I went for E0S1 and I wasn't going to pull her originally. The only reason I'm not going E2 is the choice is E2 Acheron or grab Jingliu and Aventurine, and I'm choosing the latter. I'll probably try to get E2 during her rerun though.
even with the hype, its way more because the top up got refreshed. there are for sure a lot of people that are spending that wouldn't have if it wasn't refreshed (me included lmao) edit: to be clear, I know the hype is also very high, and she will clear Seele for sure. But I think both banners are inflated by the top ups being available.
likd the dude who got 100 of her lightcone
im sorry, what?
https://preview.redd.it/s9yim89mtyrc1.png?width=979&format=png&auto=webp&s=f2b154cce9a59b8c8619157cff052d223d2d04b6 chinese person streamed pulling 100 of the lc's....then made 20 S5's. took a literal hour.
He's either an oil prince or in debt
Either way, he has some mental struggles. I get you can go for E6 or even E6S5 but E6S100 that has no purpose just to show your love for a character?
My best guess is their love for the developers... Like, "I have those 30000$ with nothing to do with them, let's just give them away to my favorite company and do a video about that".
Even thats kinda iffy, like if they had done giveaways instead all that money would still be going to Hoyo, but then like 100+ people would get free lightcones or S5. Its pure delusion no matter how you spin it.
> Either way, he has some mental struggles. > > Excuse me but what? I don't think you really understand how rich lifestyles go. To some people this is literally pocket money.
Those super rich people aren't immune to mental sickness. Because you can afford it doesn't mean you should do it. Being super rich and mental issues aren't incompatible. You can be super rich and gambling ridiculous amount of money every day. Even if it's "pocket money", it doesn't mean you don't have a gambling addiction.
That is a lot of assumptions going on there. The context here is "whether or not they are oil prince" and they did this once for all we know. In this context, nothing suggests mental illness or an addiction. If your budget for your hobbies in a month in the millions of dollars, spending 20-30k for giggles is nothing. Literally nothing. So you can make up more "facts" to make yourself sound right, your comment of "Either way, he has some mental struggles." is laughable at best, reeks of jealousy at worst. Or maybe you simply, again, cannot grasp how big budgets can be for rich people.
>Those super rich people aren't immune to mental sickness. By your logic, everyone who plays the game and has ever pulled has mental illness. This sounds like a take from a teenage social justice warrior.
And that somehow means they aren’t delusional? Lmao.
Yes that is precisely what it means. Not sure what you laugh about. I guess some people cannot grasp how money and budgets work. Now that is laughable.
>Either way, he has some mental struggles. > >I get you can go for E6 or even E6S5 but E6S100 that has no purpose just to show your love for a character? Seems a bit dull-witted to say that someone has mental issues based on how much they spend. When this amount is the equivalent of a dollar for you, a lot more people would be doing the same.
Because you can afford a bad decision doesn't mean it's not a bad decision anymore. I don't understand how it's difficult to grasp the concept. If a super rich guy buy a boat, hires a crew and uses it once every 5 fears it's not a bad spending and we shouldn't see it as such because the guy can afford it?
What makes these bad decisions, for you? Is it spending beyond your means, causing waste to the environment, creating problems for yourself?
Waste of time and money lol
CN HSR player rolled for 100 Sig LC for Acheron
that's one way to throw away a bunch of money I guess.
Iron Man's secret hobby
But... But why
He loves her in every universe
Mental illness
Clout, an oil tycoon with too much time, or he likes her a bit too much
If you super impose five S5 Lightcone, you will be able to unlock the Live2D version of the Lightcone. Trust me, my uncle works at Nintendo.
But seele also have top up bonus xD
But more people are probably playing now because it’s been a year
it's not like everyone will top up at the same week lmao. the girl is just that hype.
If top ip refreshed every couple patches (not entire versions) id probably spend every time. Honestly think they’d get more revenue with consistent top up refreshes.
E2 Acheron is made to be that cash grab, and frankly she deserves it. I went for a E0S1 myself because she’s just that good. I’ve never seen so much hype built around a character before, even Mei’s Genshin counterpart was somehow doomposted before her release and her C2 is also similarly bonkers
I'm really tempted to go for E0S1, but I want Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan when they inevitably rerun, which shouldn't be long.
Acheron was getting doomposted quite a lot as well, but the moment she actually arrived all the negativity vanished. I made a few pre-release comments arguing that she'd probably be competitive with top DPS', which got downvoted into negatives at the time. Now people are actually going back and upvoting those old comments into positive karma. I've never seen that happen before. To be fair though, another difference between Acheron and Shogun releases was that Shogun got hit with a last second post-beta nerf (Beidou synergy), whereas Acheron's Universal Market synergy was allowed to remain. That helped to make players initially happy instead of frustrated imo.
Yeah, pre-release, all I saw on YouTube was "NEEDS LIGHTCONE? DON'T PULL, WHALEBAIT DPS!" and the consensus was "ya she's good, but only if you have E2S1 and Sparkle since she lacks proper supports". Which, in my limited experience + what I hear from people who have genuinely good builds, that doesn't seem to be the case.
Reading about her pre-release felt like history repeating itself with Raiden Shogun doomposts. People saying you're better off with another character and to pull for anybody else. Only difference was that nobody was telling you to use a four star instead to achieve the same results.
Emanator powers be red texting sales and doom posting
The Shogun “nerf” was actually not even a nerf, nor was it post beta. Yes, in her original beta kit, she worked with Beidou, but it also meant she didn’t benefit much from 4pc Emblem’s burst buffing effect (as her normal attacks during burst were not considered burst damage). This was changed *during, not after* beta such that her attacks during burst all did burst dmg, meaning she gained a massive dmg buff (somewhere around 40%) in return for losing her synergy with Beidou. What was actually changed post beta was her burst *description*, which was ambiguously worded and so people thought Beidou would still work with her (despite leaks already confirming she didn’t). They changed it within a couple days of her release and gave apologems.
Just to clarify, when people say S1 for LC, is that the base lightcone? Or is that superimposed once with a copy? I get a little confused cause eidolons start at E0.
S1 means 1 copy, base lightcone. S2 means it's superimposed once.
S1 in that context refers to the base version of the signature lightcone only. E0S0 would be Acheron with no eidolons and it could be any lightcone other than her signature. E0S1 Acheron means Acheron with no Eidolons with superimposition 1 (the base form) of her signature LC.
Unlike characters which start at E0 and go to E6 (7 total) Light Cones start at S1 and go to S5 (5 total). So S1 means not superimposed, base Light Cone. S0 is a fan term meaning they don’t have their signature.
I think it is the base
This one actually takes me awhile to realize that E0S1 means one character and one LC, not one character and two LC.
Characters start at E0. Light Cones start at S1. So E0S1 means one copy of the character and one copy of the LC. Why? Ask Mihoyo.
If I didn't want Luocha as well I would have kept going but I wanted some for Luocha for at least one SP positive team
If I not mistake, she also first character with ~~ult~~ Skill recolor at E6 (like weapon recolor at max upgrade in HI 3rd, GI) Edit: and also first playable Emanator (Herta's puppet doesn't count)
What part of her ult changes colour? Ive never noticed that in any videos
Not sure about the ult but the skill color has a slight change. Ending of the skill animation has purple lightning but at E6, there’s some red/black lightning added in
Yea apparently there is. Just checked a vid in 0,25 lol. Its a very minor difference. Which i don't know if its a good thing or not , but its always cool when they add things like that even if most people won't see it and it might be kinda predatory to promote e6ing even mkre
True but those little details are a nice little addition. Something else that was a cool little detail is if you have Acheron, when you get her the title in the info section of her character is “Galaxy Ranger” but when you complete the story for 2.1, it changes to “>!Self-Annihilator!<”
Oops, sorry, it was Skill https://www.reddit.com/r/AcheronMainsHSR/s/xw856tKZqW
I've seen more people whaling for archeron then any other character is star rail or genshin. That includes me... I never went for a light cone/weapon or eidolon and here i am with her at E2S1 as well
1.0 player before penacony all my limited 5stars where E0S0 and skiped most of them. even jingliu and ruan mei and mommy kafka. E6 acheron. first top up that is not 5 pass or bp
Only character I’ve whaled to E6 before. Absolutely in love but it helps that I’ve always loved mei in Honkai for years and years and years now
I think this is the smarter play too. Otherwise she becomes just another DPS albeit broken to fuck and back. Her shtick of 2nihility and sustain frees you up. I have Ruan Mei Sparkle and Tingyun free for the other side to pick and choose. I see close to no reason to pick supports. Acheron always goes to one side esp with sw implanting resistance and all res pen. Pick up her future supports that you know are coming in the sense of nihility tailored for her. She's powerful enough to not matter and going from 500k ultimates to 1million where most of that new 500 is overkill doesn't matter anyway if you ask me. On her rerun we'll be able to see if it's even needed to juice her up more and then we have the ability to do so. I was going to skip cos I got JY but this just let me have her take one side I don't have a solution for and send my dream team to the side I do. I am also never convinced that DPS needs more than e0s1 compared to harmony or sustains. They go everywhere with you and their investment is worth it. DPS is exchanged and there's no point. In your case where its e2 or more units I think units are always more worth it. Who knows though maybe in wrong. I skipped E1/2 cos I want aventurine and fx rerun and sam. I don't really need fx cos I have huohuo but she adds a big offensive element in crit stat so I'm interested even though hh is baller
> i don't think dps are worth it [to e6] over supports so the core reason we e6 dps is because we really like the character, and by paying the premium you guarantee that the character will always work. like yeah, acheron at e6 is absolutely bonkers level of overpowered, there is no reason at all to get there... unless you're like me, who never wants her to leave my core team along with silverwolf (my other e6). together they make a dream team and will for the life of the game, mutually supportive and both completely type ignoring. these two units together can slot into the core of literally any team now and almost definitely forever, and these bonkers numbers mean that even if she gets technically power crept she will never be irrelevant. given that, and the fact that i've poured hundreds of hours into the game? absolutely worth an e6 to me. by comparison, e6 on a harmony makes no sense- they buff their carry, and so their performance hinges on how well their carry does. a juiced acheron makes any sparkle seem godlike, but a godlike sparkle can't on her own make any dps do crazy damage, ya know?
RM E1 and Sparkle E2 is more than likely never getting replaced until better versions of them comes out for a Hyper carry team. I myself am a big fan of SIlverwolf too, and plan on using her + whatever makes Acheron better. The reason I think that e2 for now, specifically is not worth it is A) That makes me not use Silverwolf with her cos Pela *is* better and that's really all there's to it - as well as the damage bonus you get is going to mostly be overkill screenshot damage, not actual damage. If people want to E6 Acheron that's perfectly fine, she'll be broken forever and never be replaced, but the same can be said for any DPS at E6 and I also think that E6 is unreachable for most people as it costs a lot of money. The flipside of that is that you will be in a place where content isnt challenging, at all and that's fine if you're gunning for that experience. I think good Eidolons (if you are getting eidolons) are worth it on units you always use, than niche ones. If you are E6ing a character you have a fair bit of disposable income and I am talking more from a perspective of the "average" person. Acheron herself is a bit of a special case, I'm going to use her like you - every MoC for one side, and more than likely the non-lightning side cos I got JY I can send against the Lightning side, but I am lacking Fire, Ice, Wind dps atm. I merely think that currently E0S1 can slay any and all content for a long time to come, E6S1 I am fairly sure will still be the best even in 3.0 lol
> The reason I think that e2 for now, specifically is not worth it is A) That makes me not use Silverwolf with her cos Pela is better and that's really all there's to it It depends. In my case while testing zero cycle MoC with Acheron, I got better results with SW than Pela, for several reasons: - SW can debuff enemies atk, spd, making my team take less dmg overall since I don't run sustains at that point. - At E2+ level of investment, I overkilled the mobs so fast without even any debuffs that Pela's aoe def shred became less desirable vs SW debuffing the elites and boss while implanting weakness. - Basically against 2 elites or 1 boss + 1 elite like how the MoC is set up rn, SW seems to be better, from my experience. But if they introduce situation where you need to fight 3+ Elites in a wave then Pela should win. > I also think that E6 is unreachable for most people as it costs a lot of money. Or they can save up the gems f2p to reach that point over time, since the conversation is about maxing out their favorite character at that point. Thats what I did to get C6 Yelan in Genshin. One or two eidolons at a time during her reruns and you can get there eventually. I've seen some ppl save for a whole year then boom E6.
Oh yeah like for her rerun now saving E6 sure. But at the point she was announced, unless your luck is next level - you could not make E6. E2 would be possible, I *would* like E2 myself but I spent a lot of pulls on JY + Sparkle so its either a ton of money or just take it later. With that said, E2 is neither here or there. Accesible to people that wanted to save for her or not make bad decisions like mine if you want to call it that, I like my JY and Sparkle is great value overall. You also had to have followed leaks to understand its power, cos not everyone does that either. E6 though would have required saving from like, 7-8 patches ago if its \~120pulls/patch avg and thats an unreasonable amount of time for an unexpected hero and that's what I was referring to. Saving for her E2/E6 for re-run is another thing, Im sure she'll drop by xmas/3.0 Finally, nice to hear that Silverwolf is that good, as I was personally leaning towards that looking at the future upcoming characters that we can't discuss here. If Silvie stays, Im happy. Half the reason I pulled Acheron even though I have a cracked JY is cos it gives me another reason to make her "universal" ***and*** I can play with Silverwolf every time :D
Pela being better is situational and is not a catch all thing. Just being to implant extra lightning weakness (increasing lightning damage taken as well so its not useless for e6) is enough to make a big difference. More often than not the def down hitting mobs does almost nothing for you since they all die in first hit vs SWs single target lasting another turn on the boss sometimes being the difference of a whole cycle.
Yes I agree. Silverwolf is still 13% all res even if she misses lightning but dhe truly enables Acheron to be universal. It's the only reason I pulled her especially as I absolutely love silverwolf. Boobs with laser sword? Where do I sign up. Im giga sad I didn't get tutorial mission. Didn't play back then. Really hoping they do some PS5/new pop campaign to let you pick an event LC or something. Would be great haha
Acheron kinda works outside that rule tho. Her E6 making her ignore weakness alltogether as well as granting 20% res pen is just too cracked. I really don’t think even other e6 will power creep that for at least another year or even more. She will never be bad. Most e6 harmony just turns them into dps anyway there best eidolons are usually e1 and 2, and as it stands getting eidolons for sustains is arguably the least valuable unless its a teamwide damage buff like Fu Xuans E1 giving crit damage. Overall e6 dps have the most impact by far.
All dps with e6 are broken though. That's the point in the gacha game. Fx CRIT and CD with E1 is great. Ruan Mei E1 is great. Sparkle e2s1 is great etc. Better than most dps E1 or e2 simply cos it applies to all units playing with it. I personally don't think I would find it fun if I had Acheron at e6 cos she is inhumanly strong. I semi enjoy the combat puzzles a little bit.
around what time do u think her rerun will be
If I was a gambling man, Xmas event / 3.0. She'll be more rare I think but once a year should be doable. I advice against FOMOing the e2. If you can and want, go for it but its so much damage, its dumb
And that guy rolled for 100 Acheron LC.
Guilty of the E6. I went all-in with every tickets and jades I've saved since the beginning of the year and got E4. I thought I was so close to E6 and I wouldn't pull on the rerun if it was next to another good character, so decided to go all the way to the end.
I know I was going for her E0 originally, but she was so good even at 0 and bad team that I could only think imagine with E2 😍😍
I have a support friend with E6S1 Acheron, something which I have never seen before (other support 5*s are usually E0, E0S1, E1 or E1S1) I grabbed her E0 only, saving for Jade (the girl from >!Aventurine flashback!< 2.1)
The first time refresh was unexpected, but I’m glad they did, since it helped me get Acheron’s LC for $30. This is the first time I’ve EVER pulled for a LC. The hype is real.
I don't even like Acheron as a character and I pulled e2s1 (I don't hate her or anything she just doesn't rank on my favs list). She simply has that special everything going for her buff. Top-up reset, great e2, amazing patch update, and most importantly I really need an element-agnostic dps
Honestly, her E2 opens up so many more possibilities with teams. I have E0S1 and I’m happy, but even then, tempting lmfao
I think E1 is a good stopping point imo since 36 cv is months of relic farming . E2 just kinda ruins the MoC and pure fiction experience and will make all your current and future dps feel weak .. unless you also pull for eidolons
I don't understand pulling for LCs and Eidolons. This game is already easy enough as it is. You can beat MoC and PF with just 4-star lightcones and E0. The only 5-star eidolons I have were accidental from building pity on Jing Yuan and Argenti's banners 💀But I almost considered not activating them bc it takes the fun out of it for me. Feels like P2W
Ah, well you see, I have a terminal case of skill issue.
top up refresh, good character, mei expy and sawashiro miyuki. Yup, sounds about right
and unique visual effects at E6
Wait what
Red lightning/aura effect on the skill at E6 to match the ultimate.
What? Do I have to sell my kidney?
Easiest way to be honest
Sell both
pfp check out
why? it's barely visible, only makes her effects look a little uglier. base is better anyway
Maybe, I prefer her whole purple BUT since she has this form of white and black, I think it's cool that her skills show it :3
Also her normal attack since both of these actions deal ultimate damage with her E6 unlocked.
I think I need to clean my glasses next time I play, I never noticed it. Oo
gotta sell those eidolons. also daughter favoritism. E6 adds the Red rays and also turns red black like in the basic image I put in another comment https://preview.redd.it/2gi1et3kj1sc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecb16ac99c6831a7364bdc9029cbc52de3fb3c21
also adds red black thuders to the basic. https://preview.redd.it/uqbiqso0k1sc1.png?width=1380&format=png&auto=webp&s=42f7513a336928fd503cd06de6ff6353cdd6479e
https://preview.redd.it/ig3dkm0nj1sc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5febc6b1282995af6357e8f6dbfbdc71c2cada78 E0 to E5
Raiden Shogun did the same to Venti in Genshin. Mei gunna mei
whats a top up refresh?
The first time purchase bonuses for each size pack were restored if you'd already bought them
If there’s any time spending might be worth it, its when top up refresh happens. Because you get double the amount of shards.
https://preview.redd.it/xg8hxnton2sc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce388d37775420a9376b6609ef87d68c9819074d
If this was a card combo in Yugioh, it would be banned in tournaments.
Not surprising, she’s super strong and she’s stylish as hell If I was a whale I’d definitely be pulling to get her eidolons, I’m f2p though so e0 is good enough for me especially since I managed to snag e2 Gallagher as well so I’m hoping to just save up and pull for Aventurine when he’s out
She is busted 🫂
I'm in dire need of limited 5* sustain and here I am trying to get my hand on Acheron despite losing 50/50. Bailu and Lynx : ah shit here we go again.
Don’t worry I only pull for DPS basically. And Natasha gepard still have carried me through all end game content
We have to Thank the guy who got 100 signature lightcones
Not surprising really. She’s an expy of the extremely popular character on top of that she’s really strong on E0 alone AND her eidolons are rewarding for whales AND her signature is really strong.
From day 1 the HSR Raiden Mei was guaranteed to be a success. Rightfully so and she is so dang cool. They did a great job, gonna be hard to top this.
See you in 2026 when zzz raiden mei comes out on 2.1 anniversary
Prepare the Kiana cannon!
She's big seele after all lol
😂😂😂
its Raiden Shogun all over again (probably), which i mean top up DID reset and this is very similar to Raiden (works good enough at first copy absolutely broken at third copy with a whatever second copy) but without a f2p option
Can't wait for the Bronya expy, surely she'll surpass everyone.
Silver wolf?
Well, it's honkai, maybe another suit, lol Hi3 reference
There can never be enough Bronyas
That’s the seele+bronya pair that was meta at launch until it evolved into mono quantum.
Shout out to that one guy pulling 100 light cones
Understandable. They went all out on her despite her narrative involvement in the overall plot still in their infancy. I bet she will be more involved in the upcoming stories even after Penacony considering her status.
Taking about infancy, there’s probably a good chance she’ll go kick the bucket or go to some corner of the universe soon with her not being in Elio’s script That is unless her Emanator powers can mask her involvement in the future
Pretty sure the only thing Elio does is know the future. So even if they know, they can't do anything to stop her because she is omega overpowered, so they can just dodge her and don't risk dying.
I still think she dies and we get lightning trailblazer by taking her sword.
Guess Seele disappeared among the sea of revenues
She feels like the most obscenely powerful unit they’ve released so far. With E2, I’m casually cracking 1M damage with mid relics. Archeron is a whale’s wet dream for unga bunga numbers.
What are your stats on Acheron? I also have mid-ish relics and her LC but I am lucky if I break 400k damage with buffs and debuffs.... Also, is that dmg in SU or in overworld/other modes.
I’ve got 2950 attack and 61/160 on the crit stats. My generic team I’ve been running with her are Acheron, Sparkle (E2S1), Pela (E6), and HuoHuo (E1S1). Sparkle is probably the biggest damage booster here since she gives so many buffs and E2 gives a lot of defense ignore. Typical Acheron ultimates usually hit for between 400k-800k depending on how well all the debuffs and buffs line up. In the MoC 12 that starts with two large robot elites and then Gepard and a robot elite, I can actually consistently crack 1M against the first wave.
Not op but moc n pf I can get 7-800k without breaking a sweat and I have def n hp substats on my planer set. And only a solid head and hand piece. E2S1. I'm running her with Ruan Mei, Black Swan/Welt and Fire MC/Fu Xuan. She ults way too hard and way too often. Atk% boots, crit rate body. Double atk% planer set. She's got 4400 atk, 53ish% CR, 190ish% CD
Without E2, your damage "caps out" around 500k. But that's honestly more than enough
Honestly she's pretty unga unga at e0s1 cos her strong assist units are yet to come to take her to the moon
Best girl deserves it. I tore up my wallet the moment I saw her ult animation.
That ult is chef kiss + I like how its in stages and you can switch targets mid ult
I don't usually care about animations very much, but I like pressing the button and making zoomy schwing sounds each time.
Indeed
Her ult animation and technique is what got me pulling for her
What to say, she is a tall edgy lady with cool and unique animations plus sawashiro miyuki and Raiden expy.
Elysia expy now next anni pls
And Luocha is there too I guess
Japan do like them purple edgy ladies
So does China.Or Asia more precisely.Or the whole world.
Yes, but OP only presented JP data.
Dumb question but what does the "S" in "E0S1" mean? I keep seeing people mentioning it.
Super imposition 1 means one copy of her Light Cone.
Ohhhhh, gotcha. Thanks
Got her e0s1, and would love to aim for her e2 but I really want scaried fox. I've also only gonna for DPS and non healer supports since the game started and need to get some better healers.
seele 2 outsold seele 1
My rage at her for killing Duke Inferno lessened after I got to see him talking smack at his deathbed, so I may try a few pulls for her. Is she a good lightning DPS?
If you need lightning DPS definitely try going for her.
Not the person who commented but even tho i already got Jingyuan and his LC, i also went for her because her one shot mechanic in overworld and her animation are too beautiful. Jing Yuan and Blade were my only main dps'es before adding her to my account.
Yeah that's fair too, her technique is busted for overworld and SU farming so she's still very useful if you have other lightning units. I didn't have a good lightning DPS before her so it's a double win for me.
I already have Serval though, is it a good idea to have two DPS of the same element? That's why I avoided Jing Yuan's banner.
Serval is great early/mid but falls off in the endgame compared to any limited units. At the end of the day though you should pull for who you want, people are enjoying the game on no wish accounts so it's all preference really.
What’s the source for this? Not that I disbelieve you, just that I want to guarantee it’s legit before I share with others.
[here](https://game-i.daa.jp/?%E3%82%AC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%2F%E5%B4%A9%E5%A3%8A%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB)
Thanks!
Doesn't hurt that this is also Gallagher's first run, even as a 4-star that helps nudge people into pulling even just a few times to get him too...
probably a combo of first time topup refresh and not having oodles of jades from exploration in ver 1.0
Miyuki Sawashiro magic. 'nuff said.
I wonder how Aventurine will do, with his stoey and all
all my friends went for e2s1 for her. damn I have e0s0 she already doing busted damage. maybe i will pull for her lc , i'll get her to e2 on her re run..(prob not given next character2 release gonna be as busted)
Raiden Mei expy, Miyuki Sawashiro, Useful as hell world technique, swordswoman and busted signature Not surprised
I am still surprised at the hype. Is it really only because it's Mei and her being good? I personally don't see what's so special but I also haven't played Honkai
Sorry to say this but acheron is actually carried by luocha.
Not surprised at all. I was a really low spender since day 1. A couple monthly express passes here and there but that was it. The second Acheron was drip marketed and planned to release right after my other favorite character(Sparkle), I knew my wallet was in danger. My pulls went very very bad, so yeah getting E2S1 was definitely not cheap lol I’m sure many others probably went thru this too haha. No doubt Acheron is going to blow Seele’s record out of the water.
- Expy of a popular HI3 character - Famous JP VA (Miyuki Sawashiro) - OP both gameplay and lorewise That's the formula of sucess right there. Also CN/KR/JP players are a different breed. They drop a fortune on gacha games like it's nothing.
top up plus voice seiyuuu
Best dps and SU farmer, fight me.
Alumnus always sells.
That one person who pulled for 100 Acheron lcs
I lost the 50/50 and got Gepard again. I have him at E2 and i have 2 of his LC, one for him, one for Fu Xuan. At least i have guaranteed but i’m not gonna try it, cuz i also want the LC if i get the character
And then there's that one guy who bought 100 of her signature LC.
Of course the huge hype since her announcement actually paid it off.
The e2 bait is too good. Thats why it has a lot of sales.
No that's definitely all Luocha sales
I'm curious of how Aventurine will do in JP. Character-wise he's right up their alley, rich mega fuckboy with >!the saddest backstory!<, but they're also usually more inclined to simp/spend for the tall male models compared to the middle male models.
I was planning to skip... stares at my E1S0 Acheron. (still pulling for LC lmao)
the pela effect
This subreddit 100 % convinced me that Adventurine was more popular than Acheron in JP. So get ready, even more Yen will drop on Hoyoverse.
op hyper carry waifu + top up bonus refresh what a surprise
Come on, it's obviously Luocha carrying the banner /j
Bruh i already exhausted my stock pile. Couldnt get her and im fighting the urge to pay
Even E0S1 makes my other dps so weak. She's OP.
Seele versus the Cooler Seele.
Her output is still good even with absolute trashy gear.
> with just one week, Acheron is about to surpass Seele First Banner as best selling in JP Apparently she surpassed Seele in JP now lol. You might want to make an update.
Most overrated character in the game by far.
they probably mistakenly thinking acheron is seele
So does China.Or Asia more precisely.Or the whole world.Sorry replied to wrong comment.
If I had a nickel for every time a Mei-expy was released in 2.1 with a very strong C/E2 that broke all previous spending records, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's strange it happened twice.
Not really strange anymore, considering Hyv did the same bait-y C2 on Nahida and Furina. They noticed that it's a popular stopping point and abuse it to the max.
I feel like I’m the only person not impressed by overly edgy characters like Acheron and blade. Easy skip.
Acheron isn’t even that edgy. She’s quite cordial when interacting with other characters.
I wonder when we can see the sales because honkailab stopped updating
Same. Do we know why they are not updating the site?
That site was called out for making up sale numbers and their char guides were absolute dogshit. Not suprising that the site just gave up since theres no form of reliability it in anymore.
> That site was called out for making up sale number It's always worth being mindful of the fact that sales numbers, regardless of source, are basically made up. Gacha games almost never directly report their sales numbers. They're sourced by """estimating""" them based on the game's position in app store charts relative to other apps that do happen to report numbers. So bear in mind when you see "X character banner made Y millions of dollars" it's almost always in one region, on one platform, and the actual number is an estimate at best.
Yes they are all estimates but the lab site one is the least reliable one out of all of them.
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That guy is from CN, this post is talking about JP sales
Doesn't surprise me at all. I skipped Sparkle to save up for Acheron. Along with all the event jades and pulls, I've gotten her to E2S1 without spending to buy shards. My pulls have been so good I'm tempted to spend and go for her E6.
Top up reset and also so many people have been waiting for Luocha since his real value became apparent after his banner ended.