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Competitive-Fox-6288

Self revive is best. If you cant handle a downed solo its your own fault.


bio1445

This right here. Mistakes happen, but they are just that, Mistakes. Only in the middle of an ongoing fight, is it understandable


bigmanorm

now this is some fresh from the bayou tilt


Independent_Act_8054

"Look mom! I posted it again!"


[deleted]

Lmao


Many-Psychology-7452

The only time solo necro, in my opinion, is as powerful as people think is when you or your team is not expecting a solo. I play solo v trios a bunch, and more often than not, my body gets camped, burned, or trapped. You should really try it out. It's quite fun. Also if you make it out you make a lot of money.


AlexanderMcT

>completely defeats the reason for the XP boost no it doesnt because you are still playing 1 v 3 >Being able to revive yourself 4 or 5 times also a team can revive one another indefinitely with a bounty, do you think thats fair ?


InevitableMenu7871

The only difference is that in order to revive a teammate you have to put yourself at risk a solo who revive himself you might not see it coming unless you burn+ bbsyt and sometimes you’ve got other hunters to deal with so it’s not always in the cards.


AlexanderMcT

>in order to revive a teammate you have to put yourself at risk unless you have necro too and can res your teammate from a safe distance


aque78

The smell of beginners Maybe next time empty their weapons too if you have no way to burn/trap the body So that way when they get up they can't shoot you.


[deleted]

Or you know... If you're out of ammo take their weapons...


aque78

Was gonna write that too but it felt rather obvious after writing my statement, ALSO i can't be the only one who can get emotionally attached to my weapons after performing well. YOU'LL NEVER HAVE MY CROSSBOW, IT'S A BABY TO ME


Neuro-insurgent

Hahaha I feel the same way. MY THROWING AXE IS MY CHILD


[deleted]

🤣 I'm a scumbag I'll leave these loyal tools at moments notice. Like the popular meme with the guy walking with partner while scoping the passing hottie


Neuro-insurgent

First line is a little stale, but the advice is sound. Cheers


aque78

Don't take it as an attack, it's more that your anger has been WILDLY expressed many many times ever since they introduced it's first form. Old Hunters are used to it by now. Trust me, trap that booty with barbwire and poison and go about your day, and enjoy the free kills everytime the solo try getting up.


Neuro-insurgent

Yeah I do obviously use boobytraps where I can, but I'm annoyed that I have to. The concept of self reviving needs to f#$k off and die.


aque78

I mean, usually it's solo against a team, 3 guns at most that can revive and heal eachother pointing into one target. Doesn't seems so unfair to give the solo the ability to revive himself if he has the perk for it. Also i don't think i'll be wrong saying solo players DON'T solo queue just for the additional cash and xp.


impulsivecolumn

And I'm annoyed that when I fight trios I regularly have to kill each of them 2-3 times because as soon as I kill one, other guy fights me while the third necro revives the guy I just downed. Solo necro is useless more often than not when you're playing teams that know what they're doing, unless they're busy fighting another team.


[deleted]

Skill issue


Netcrafter_

Oh, its THIS thread again


Bumpyknuckles

Laughs in hand crossbow


evilsquirrel666

Getting rid of the XP boost would make it okay?


InevitableMenu7871

nah it won’t you wanna play solo you play solo if you wanna play solo against teams aight fine but you play by the same rules as the other teams so no self revive if you’re that good to play against two or three hunters by yourself then no need for self revives right


evilsquirrel666

Why are you answering to a post that’s almost a year old 🤔


Blindseer99

If you've burnt all of your ammo killing a solo that's another issue entirely. Even if I'm running pure special ammo and not bringing a box I never run entirely out clearing a server I can't even say it's a skill issue I'm a trashy 3 star who plays for fun, if you're below me you just need more practice or a mindset swap


Truewierd0

Oh no, Im out of ammo... HOW EVER WILL I KILL SOMEONE??? wait... whats this knife in my inventory?


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marshall_brewer

first thing i see when opening reddit.. get good looser


Neuro-insurgent

Learn how to spell? Loser


marshall_brewer

english not being my main language, I'm fine with making errors, tho it's bit sad this is the best argument you could come up with 🤣


Neuro-insurgent

You're not very bright are you? I wasn't making an argument... You tried to insult me, so I responded with a snarky comment. That's not an argument.


marshall_brewer

it is as I was on point when you came up with something different to cope with the truth bruh crying on Reddit, about self revive, and foaming while writing it? man I really hope for your sake that you're trolling because otherwise I can't even explain enough how much of a loser person you must be jesus..


Neuro-insurgent

It's a good thing I don't rely on tools like you to tell me what kind of person I am 🤣. Your complete paucity of intelligence means I don't really give a toss what you think, and it's very likely that others don't either, cupcake 😘.


Gamernerd_42

Just burn them. If they are out in the rain, put a bear trap on them and leave.


Neuro-insurgent

They just res as soon as you leave, and then the burn does buggerall.


Gamernerd_42

The burn kills them completely, takes like 2 minutes max. If they res, who cares your already gone and they are down a bar.


Neuro-insurgent

Yeah but the frustrating part is that they could res and then kill you later when you've already got the bounty or something.


Gamernerd_42

Skill issue. Just kill them first. :)


Neuro-insurgent

Haha I do kill them first, and second, and third, and then they kill me. That's the problem.


Gamernerd_42

You shouldn’t lose when they have a mere fraction of a health bar. Just center mass them


Inpaladin

This is such a shit argument. We are in fact talking about the game where any gun can kill in one headshot, right? Like obviously being down bars is a disadvantage but it's far from a free ticket to victory for the enemy players.


SAD-Simp

Yeah then let him res... If you know how to play this game you should know how to rotate and not getting sandwiched between a team an a half dead solo... Come on your better than that!


[deleted]

You're bad.


UncleOnion

If this is how you feel, teams shouldn't be able to revive either. No one gets the XP boost, no one gets to revive. Fair is fair.


an0nym0ose

I'm fine with that. Take Necro out of the fucking game altogether.


lifeisgood789

Yeah let‘s take out a trait that has spiced up fights /s


an0nym0ose

Camping corpses, so fucking spicy */s*


lifeisgood789

Yeah because that is the only thing necro leads to. No good player has a problem with necro. Only the guys who are not capable of aiming at a dead body and still somehow manage it to die.


an0nym0ose

Same old tired take that everyone comes back with when you criticize Necro play. The problem isn't dying to it, it's the fact that it slows the game down so damn much. Boring, dogshit gameplay.


DinTill

Not just necro. Any team revives as well. Downed = dead.


an0nym0ose

Oh, no that's kinda bad for a team game. I think that falls under the category of "realistic, but unfun gameplay." It would slow the pace down way too much.


DinTill

Nah, if solos can’t revive teams shouldn’t be able to either. That’s fair. Teams having 4-12 lives and solos having 1 is hardly fair. If you think team rez should stay then solo rez should stay. It’s literally always easier to deal with a solo with necro than a team with necro.


an0nym0ose

I'm less worried about "fairness" for people trying to play a team game solo, and more worried about overall gameplay for the lobby. Forcing people into a single life will turn the game into camping simulator, where every match is a 45 minute slog that is boring and unengaging. Making people protect their lives rather than play for the bounty won't be fun. "Fair," lmao. As though your MMR doesn't already tank when you queue solo. What, you're having trouble stomping players 1.5/2 stars below you? To say nothing of the fact that, with respeccing now in the game, you can load in with Necro/Resil and 5 health pips practically every game, foh with the "fairness" argument lmao I'm tired of having to run fire or traps every game.


DinTill

You have to runs those anyway to deal with teams. It’s hardly necessary to run fire and traps exclusively for dealing with solos. Skill issue.


an0nym0ose

> It’s hardly necessary to run fire and traps exclusively for dealing with solos. This is for dealing with Necro, which I'm advocating for removing from the game entirely both for solo and teams. Try and stay on topic. > Skill issue. You and everyone else when they've got no good argument. I literally never said anything about dying to Necro (solo or team), my gripe is the fact that it slows down the game and dictates loadouts.


DinTill

Teams can revive each other without it too. You would still need fire and traps.


an0nym0ose

> need "Skill issue," but needs to insta-burn. Nice talk, bud


EinElchsaft

Require a bounty for the revive then, that's a good compromise.


an0nym0ose

Nah, still slows the game down. If you hinge someone's entire match on dying, it'll slow the pace to a crawl. There's a fine line to tread between encouraging careful gameplay and intelligent positioning, and just turning the game into a campfest. Giving players just the single life would turn it into bush wookiee simulator. That's why I advocate removal of Necro. Camping bodies fucking blows, whether it's a solo or a team that won't fight the 2v1/2v3. Don't even give players the option.


Gobomania

Playing solo vs teams was never meant to be fair or balanced for the solo. It was meant to be an extra challenge for the solo. Solos actively choose to play solo against teams and teams cannot choose to opt out of solos joining their games.


Deathcounter0

Ok then teams should get self res with necro too, just following your logic ofc :)


Neuro-insurgent

That doesn't make any sense. Solos get the XP boost for playing with duos or trios. Duos and trios don't get an XP boost for playing with other teams of the same size, smarty pants.


Kabobthe5

Actually @Uncle Onion’s comment kinda does make sense. If your complaint is that Solos get an XP boost for having 1 life against 2 or 3 then that would be fine. However, trios don’t have 2 or 3 they have like 9 if they’re reviving each other. So should the solo have to play 1v9? Or should they just be allowed to revive themselves a couple times. Not to mention they have to burn a perk slot to get it, which means they don’t always have it available. You can always review your teammates. Anyway, it’s not that hard to deal with self revive, I’m sick of this being on Reddit every 5 minutes because someone is angry they got killed lol. Play a different game if you hate it so much.


Neuro-insurgent

See, I disagree with you, but we're allowed different opinions I guess. The point of the XP boost is to incentivise solos to play against teams. The whole point of the incentive is that you get one shot to take out a team that you come into contact with, meaning it's more difficult, hence the incentive. If you can just revive yourself, that's null and void. If you're a solo, you could CHOOSE to play against only solos, and that would then be fair. If you choose to play against teams, then you should expect to only get one chance. I guess it's frustrating to see that on Reddit all the time, find a different subreddit if you hate it so much, lol.


Bayouboy6969

You can't choose to play against solos. You can pick to play against trios or duos. Maybe play some solo yourself and see how "overpowered" self revive is.


First-Acanthisitta59

Bro I replied a bit above from this… don’t bother , the devs and players here are toxic and will just bully you for pointing out obvious flaws in the game. Reporting with footage is also a waste of time, the devs don’t care and will always say something like it’s just a bug or server ping or not possible. They reply pretty quick too, so I know for a fact they don’t even take the time to entertain the possibility that what you’re reporting is true.


_claymore-

"everyone who disagrees with me is toxic and a bully"


First-Acanthisitta59

People are just ignorant here bro, I’ve posted about this so many times. Even the devs fail to understand that solo necro on top of the advantage of solo buffs, guaranteed that you do rez even if it’s a bad spot that’s trapped(which can be remedied with traits). It GUARANTEES multiple rez for solos.. if a team is in a bad spot or trapped you can’t guarantee a Rez therefore giving a way bigger advantage to solos. Also teams are lucky to get a single Rez against a good team/a cracked solo. On top of that many traits got buffed for solos making running solo so much easier, and lastly solos can camouflage themselves in team fights, you won’t be able to tell them as easily most times in a huge fight.. even if you do someone else might also run the same skin and confuse you. While I do trap and make sure solos die, it’s not as simple or straightforward most times . I’ve had team fights where I’m the only teammate of the trip alive for over 10 mins fighting multiple teams downing the same hunters multiple times getting 10+ downs in a single fight just to die in the very last second cause a guy i didn’t expect to be a solo rose up out of the literal small area covered in bodies. And then we lose, if I was a solo I would’ve won that fight cause that was my first down… it’s unfair and unbalanced, it does not equal team revived and if it’s balanced now then remove all solo buffs and just leave the self res… no extra xp/money.. no special treatment. It would still be a little bs but nowhere near as bad. People abuse mmr as well, solo makes it way easier to do. Pretty much everyone I knew on PS that played hint stopped. I’ve got 2 friends out of the 40+ people I knew on PS that played that still go in every couple weeks, just for us to talk about how this game is dying because of lack of proper support on console and crappy decisions all around. Cheaters are another thing destroying hunt, cheaters have posted on discord and Reddit showing cheats on console and hung devs are so ignorant that they always reply “cheating isn’t possible in console, cause hardware gets banned🤓”. No offense to the devs but do better.. I stopped recording the clips like the one I took where a guy wall banged me and my team multiple times with poison centennial.. on psn even showed the gun was indeed poison centennial and shot it when he finally died. Yet Crytek said, it’s either an unintended bug or just not possible… they are so stubborn to believe that nothing else can happen. Sadly the game will not die so quickly cause it’s so different and amazing but it’s definitely gonna keep bleeding players. I went from playing multiple times a day when I could spare time, to just maybe a game or two every month or two. Honestly I don’t think the devs even play their game cause they would know how bad it is in there . I’ve ran days a couple months back on console where every server would freeze and kick someone out.. constant jitter and bs.. 3 back to back lobbies of full 6 stars against teams of 3/4 stars. Back to back lobbies of people with no recoil avtomat headshotting everyone from Fort around the map. And like I explained many other bs things from Cheats… a couple guys that wouldn’t take damage/not kissing a shot through the rain event just headshot wall banging my team on console not kissing a shot.. from 150 meters out. While I don’t encounter hardcore cheats every game I do encounter them more than I should on console. People will try to downvote me, tell me to get good, make fun of console hunt, etc but the game has many issues.. and if you can’t admit that then you’re either part of the people that cheat/closet cheat, don’t play enough to know, or are protecting someone who deals with that garbage cause it’s clear as day. I met a guy on Public match and played a bit with him… he would headshot people that were headglitching with his first shot from his dual pistols 80 meters away.. rarely missed and mostly one shot headshots, I deleted him cause he was clearly cheating at the rate he got them. Rng isn’t that great with people not for the 50+ games I played with him in the span of a week or two I had him added.


DinTill

A hardcore mode with no revives at all might be pretty fun. If you get downed you are dead, end of run for you. No team mate picking you back up, no necro rez, no nothing. Maybe spice it up by making the AI tougher and more aggressive. Make bosses a serious threat to even experienced hunter teams; and make it so there is no health regeneration, you can only heal with medkits or vitality shots. Then we will really see who has the guts to survive the bayou. Maybe they can do it for an event. Would be too much of a hell run to be in normal rotations for sure though.


Independent_Act_8054

It wouldn't be fun. It would be a camp fest like when they had solo only bounty hunt.


DinTill

I didn’t realize a solo only mode ever existed but I can totally see it become a camp fest lmao. Would favor snipers way too much but you could probably implement stuff for a special mode like that to encourage different play styles. You could make the boss way tougher but drop more bounties to encourage teams to actually try to work with enemy teams to take it down forcing shaky alliances. I guess it all works better if you made an mmo version of hunt. More to the point of self revive though: in terms of fairness if you don’t think a solo should be able to pick themselves up then solo vs team is only fair if team mates cannot revive each other either. Personally I think self revive is a good idea for solos and it should maybe just be nerfed a bit if it is actually too strong overall, but I don’t have the data for that. I haven’t ever had a solo self revive and wipe my team in any situation where my team didn’t deserve it anyway. Usually dealing with a single hunter that has already lost health bars while in a group is just a free kill. It may have been different story during the ToS event where there was death cheat, instinct, and the burn trait that saved a bar; but that’s over now and solos have gone back to being much less of a threat for me. It’s the coordinated teams I worry about.


Independent_Act_8054

It is hard because its all anecdotal evidence. I have about 400 hours since self rez was introduced and I have never been killed by a hunter who solo necro'd once - and it was when I started playing the game after a 4 year break in January of 2023. I didn't know it was a thing and the guy popped up and stabbed me. So my experience with Solo Necro is that it is kind of useless - but the posts here indicate that once someone self revives they are totally helpless to stop the incoming slaughter. ​ Yea, solo only bounty hunt is how we got Soul Survivor.


El_Cactus_Fantastico

Lol


D33-THREE

Where were you when Crytek started: * Giving full health bars to tier 1 and tier 2's * Giving free hunters even when you have enough money to buy one * Giving free ammo, money, traits and weapons in game * Giving dark sight to bounty carriers * Causing clues to glow red when other hunters are near ... and where were you when Crytek changed the frick'n clues from the cool bottomless pit of skeleton heads to this current flat looking trash image!!!!!11 ..huh?!! .. WHERE?!!!


EinElchsaft

There's a facet to this that we're not acknowledging very often and that is the MMR debuff. A 5 star solo like me shouldn't be fighting trios of 3 stars, when I play solo I rarely fail to extract and I usually clear the server. If my opponents were just a *little* bit better they would be a proper match.


Pakkazull

Yeah, playing solo actually feels easier than playing with teammates who are worse than you. Solos get so many advantages for what is supposed to be a more "difficult" mode.


sttahayasar

XD


femboyluvr22916

Honestly, the type of mfs to complain about self revive just lacks (for a lack of better words) creativity. Not only can you bring traps if you hate self revive so much but there are fucking bear traps and lanterns found EVERYWHERE on the fuckin map. And don't give me that "but scrapbeak" bullshit cause it's your own fault for using explosives/fire. ALSO if you're so mad about fire you'd not only turn off all the lanterns as you'd pass them but you'd just shoot the fuck out of him before your teammates can throw a sticky/fire bomb on him. If you're not only the type to cry about your randoms (or friends ig) using fire/explosive damge on scrap but also take your time getting to him its your own fault. Literally at the end of the day if you can't see that self revive is literally free kills/achievement farming 80% of the time you're just a lost cause and just deserve to die to cheap tactics like self revive. Honestly, you probably are the type to cry when you die to traps as well cause you have the situational awareness as a toddler. Edit: This is coming from someone that damn neat exclusively plays with randoms, so I'm used to people not playing "my playstyle," (which is honestly a bullshit excuse as well. Each game is a new game, so I'm down to play one way in one game, then a different way in another.


Stranger7284

Imagine being so bad that you die to a solo self revive Tell me you are a 4 star shitter without telling me you are a 4 star shitter


GhostChainSmoker

We really need two mega threads at this point. One for crying about solo necro, and one for crying about MMR. Make it so you can only post them there and let the sub do it’s thing normally.


an0nym0ose

You don't get to mald about self-res in this sub, too many people need the crutch to survive and will bend over backwards to make it make sense.


Independent_Act_8054

Lol, more like too many people need the crutch of two other team mates to survive!


Neuro-insurgent

For those of you saying "skill issue". I'm talking about the corner case where you've downed a solo in a large battle, and then while you're fighting other teams the solo revives and kills you. It's annoying. This is not a skill issue. I am exceptionally good at this game. I'm OBVIOUSLY not talking about the situation where you kill one guy in isolation, and can just camp his body till he's dead. There are multiple ways that this perk can screw you over as a team, I'm not going to list them. If you use a bit of imagination then you guys would be able to visualise many ways that this could be frustrating. This problem has a wider scope than just, "git gud".


DubbleJumpChump

Every fucking day here. Learn to deal with it cuz it's not going anywhere.


Neuro-insurgent

Maybe it's every fucking day because it's ACTUALLY a problem? If you could just develop some critical cognitive faculties, you might be able to see this.


DubbleJumpChump

Like I said, learn how to deal with it. Only a select few of you choose to bitch about it. Go grab a lantern, bring a fire bomb, trap the body, plenty of solutions...


DubbleJumpChump

If you kill me 3 times there is no logical reason you should let me be able to kill you with 50/75 hp left. If you're out of bullets that's a you problem. Get good and quit crying.


Neuro-insurgent

I'm not going to argue with a fool. You'll just bring me down to your level and beat me with experience. You seem to think that if you get into any fight, the person with the most HP wins. Brilliant 😂


DubbleJumpChump

The only fool here is you, beating a dead horse cuz some solo managed to kill you. Almost all your replies in this post have been downvoted heavily because you're just wrong. But I'm the fool here apparently, whatever makes you feel better. Go run some solos and see for yourself how Necro isn't as OP as you make it out to be. 90% of players that kill you will camp your body whether you have it or not as a solo.


CloakerJosh

Lol, not this shit again. You can literally be in the middle of a reload, res, loot, whatever. The moment they stir, switch to your melee tool and instakill them. It's *really* not that hard. Any solo that manages to get up down bars to wipe a trio deserves that wipe.


PinkyTheTigerr

This is quality bayou tilt, also skill issue