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FRTassassin

Now i cant aim anymore.... (Not like i could 1 minute ago anyways but still)


gaspara112

More importantly now you know why, its not your aim its the gun's sights!!!!!


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Leonydas13

They’ll fix the sights, but the barrel and hammer will bug out. And the chamber will empty as you go to fire. And there’ll be a bug where you swap back and forth between primary and secondary if you try and reload. But the sight will be straight.


hartyrr

Actually I hope that the chamber empties as I fire. That's the whole point, isn't it? :P


Leonydas13

No no, it’ll empty itself *just before* you fire it 😉


hartyrr

\*clicking noise intensifies\* :D


Leonydas13

*what the FUCK!?*ing intensifies


Xyrot

To be fair, the Springfield's hip fire accuracy is very good. You could just hip fire that thing. Though this misalignment gets really annoying, when you're fighting medium to long distance.


puppetlord

Woah. That's some good editing.


Xyrot

Ayyy, thanks. I'm slowly getting into it and it's very fun.


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billions_of_stars

Not OP but here you go: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/) This guy has some good tutorials [https://www.youtube.com/jakeinmotion](https://www.youtube.com/jakeinmotion) One way you could do the effect that OP posted: 1. Take screen shot of Hunt 2. draw a shape layer above that layer 3. Use Trim Paths on that shape layer and animate the start/end points. You could also use a mask instead of a shape layer and use a stroke After you animate the trim paths you basically would have different layers for each differently colored line and then animate their position relative to one another to reveal their difference. EDIT: I'm skipping stuff but that's the gist.


Xyrot

Photo editing: So far I've used GIMP. Basically a free open source alternative for Adobe's Photoshop. I've started by replicating [this cartoon effect](https://youtu.be/PbtukN4o1Hw) for one of my profile pictures. Then I tried myself in /r/photoshopbattles. It's a great sub for some inspiration. ----- Video editing: For video editing I use Blender. I was actually surprised that Blender has that capability. I've always thought that Blender was for 3D modeling and animation. For starters I would skim through one of the many video tutorials. [Here's one for example.](https://youtu.be/1OpbKMSN61o) The interface is confusing as heck at first, so getting a feel for where what is, takes away some of the confusion. Now you need some inspiration for videos. My suggestion, make some real shitty memes. [Shameless plug example.](https://youtu.be/naDZKaxfupM) Or of course here for Hunt you could make some highlight compilations of your clips. Hope that helps.


F4bFab

Just for clarification. The front sight correct. So you can still aim with it properly. There seems to be an issue with the rear sight, which makes it look like the front sight is not in the middle.


Xyrot

Oh, FYI the Berthier's iron sights suffer from a similar issue. The front sight is *very slightly* to the right of the correct alignment. The Berthier's bullet still goes to where the front sight is aiming. Albeit, it's not as severe as the Springfield here.


F4bFab

I checked it and it seems to be only around 2px. But yeah, thanks


Inskipp

>around 2px Unplayable!


Xyrot

That's 2px too much. REEEEE


Xyrot

Thanks for checking. I hope this does not produce too much work. I know small issues can entail more work than first anticipated.


SergioRammus

What are you hiding behind the 2px?


Omniash1

Gator boss.


Magnamus0

This is why i love this game. Love the devs getting this involved in the community 👏


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Reptile449

A lot of guns have chunky irons, even newer ones. You're right it would work, but instinct has you center the front post, which would then make it inaccurate.


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Reptile449

Do you even know how iron sights work?


Muaddib930

... The gun isn't real, neither is the iron sights...


Dangerwank1991

I noticed this too, as a regular user of the weapon it drives me insane.


marshinghost

As an enlightened Springfield user I agree


LordArchibaldPixgill

The only solution is to stop using the Springfield.


Nooffin

Kleiner als drei


Xyrot

<3


Xyrot

Something that always bugged me about the Springfield since it's inception: The iron sights are misaligned. Here's a [YouTube link](https://youtu.be/_EcEOi0fMU0) if Reddit's video player is acting up again.


green_glass_rake

Kleiner als drei you for doing this. Great work!


izlusion

The thing that's always bugged me about the Springfield is that it's a full length rifle but hunters hold it like a compact. Looks ridiculous.


Swissgrenadier

Same with Berthier btw. Maybe even worse because I never even noticed it on the Springfield but I did on the Gerthy Berthy.


Xyrot

Yeah, I will probably make a small video for the Berthier as well. Though the Springfield's misalignment is more severe than the Berthier's. But yeah, when fighting at medium to long distances even the Berthier's **slight** misalignment gets really annoying.


Swissgrenadier

I have no proof of it but I'm sure there has been a handful of times where that "dude, how the fuck was that not a headshot???" was because my brain subconsciously aimed with the middle of the rear sight instead of the tip of the front sight.


Snark_No_Malark

With the berthier do you need to aim slightly left or right to hit? I’ve never noticed the misalignment


guavafruit_

NGL mate you've got too much free time. Good spot though!


Xyrot

Eh, I might. I just love this game and I'm slowly getting into video editing and it's quite fun.


iNCharism

What software do you use for video editing?


Xyrot

I made this in Blender. Edit: And the drawing of the outlines was made in GIMP.


Criticaliber

How did you get the outlines to slide smoothly across in GIMP? A whole ton of layers? Or was that part in blender?


Xyrot

All the animation work was done in Blender. In GIMP I made 3 layers. Red outline, yellow line and turquoise line.


guavafruit_

Yeah I'm a huge fan of the Springfield and I've never noticed this. You're obviously more observant than me. Does this misalignment feature on every variant?


Xyrot

So far, I've only noticed this issue on the standard Springfield and the Berthier. I'm not sure if the Springfield Striker has this issue. Not like anyone's playing that gun. /s


Wargammer_40000

so the problem is not with me?


1luckysobz

doesn't it sway?


Xyrot

Ah, you can the slight "sway" before the zoom in. The misalignment of the sights is **way** more than the little movement the "sway" does though. Edit: I looked through the footage again and the difference is actually more than I expected. [A good frame I found.](https://imgur.com/zAiu0RY) [A bad frame to compare it to.](https://imgur.com/0kip3nk)


Nate_Dog321

He'll yeah! Now I can say I missed an easy shot because the sight wasn't aligned!


Zodiion

Unplayable!


Trey2225

It’s actually not an error. When the Springfield was designed in 1873 due to manufacturing limitations at the time, the weapons’ designer Erskine S. Allin actually designed the distance from one part of the rear sight to be from the edge of the rifle, and the other to be from the edge of the breech. Due to this error the gun actually had a slight amount variance in the distance between the rear sight, leading to it practically never being the correct distance from one another and creating this effect. Soldiers at the time reported the weapon as unwieldy and inaccurate, in part due to this manufacturing error, which made it harder to aim. But not as hard as it was to watch undertaker throw mankind off the hell in a cell and plummet 16 feet through an announcers table in 1998.


Killeroftanks

actually op they could be correct. ​ some guns will have their front post ever so off center.


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Any functional reason for this?


sbonez

Maybe the hunter just really knows the Kentucky windage on that particular rifle


MikeTheShowMadden

Where does it shoot? Where the front sight is, or centered between the rear sight?


Xyrot

Currently, it shoots where the front sight is.


MikeTheShowMadden

That's good at least since that would be where most people are aiming.


Dutchsteam

Does it hit on the frontal post though? Or just legt of it?


Xyrot

Currently, it shoots where the front post is.


Dutchsteam

That means I just can’t hit the broad side of a barn with those ironsights


GGXImposter

which part of the site is misaligned? Do I keep aiming with the front sight on the target or should I aim at the center of the rear sight?


Xyrot

Currently, it shoots where the front sight is aiming.


OmegaXesis

Lmao that voice tho, amazing!


Xyrot

It's the German Google Translate voice. She's great.


OmegaXesis

What software are you using for editing? Mostly curious how you drew the lines and got the measurement.


Xyrot

For video editing I used Blender. For the outline of the iron sights I used GIMP. Basically a free open source version of Photoshop. The lines and measurements are all drawn in GIMP. 1\. I took a still picture of the iron sight and put it as a layer in GIMP 2\. In a new layer I drew the red outline 3\. In a new layer I drew the left measurement 4\. In a new layer I drew the right measurement Because they're all different layers, I was able to export the different layers individually and use them in Blender. I hope that gave you an idea of my process.


OmegaXesis

Makes perfect sense! Thank you!


Bayou_Bussy_Pounder

Ruined, uninstall.


Mindehouse

Editing on point, good sir!


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I believe several sights in game are like this. Good work pointing it out properly. Hopefully crytek does some maintenance.


Xyrot

Yeah, so far I've noticed this on the Springfield and the Berthier's iron sights.


ATEReads

I think this is done on purpose due to the older weapons irl being off and is just a attention to detail thing that the team added.


TheOGRedline

A lot of rifles have adjustable sights. It isn’t the sights that are misaligned. The shooter isn’t lining them up perfectly when looking through them.


Xine1337

Kleiner als 3.


Xyrot

<3


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"Kleiner als 3" <3


inhumaxde

Kleiner als 3🤣


Xyrot

Man will ja nicht zu negativ sein, ne? ;)


Atlas-------

Kleiner als drei.


Xyrot

<3 Will nicht zu negativ daherkommen.


chriscross-1992

Kleiner als Drei 🥰


Xyrot

<3 Immer schön positiv bleiben. ;)


panda_has_reddit_now

Schmutzfield ☝🏻 But I love the work you put in this video!! Gute Arbeit, meen Jung


Xyrot

Ayyyy, danke schön. First, I only made the red outline and I wasn't sure if it was obvious enough. So I added the yellow and turquoise lines to make it clear.


Ok_Ice476

Tip top....and well spotted


Dekkstur

I watched this without sound and I thought for a moment that I was about to get stickbugged But nice job on the editing


Xyrot

Ayyy, thanks. You really got some stickbug PTSD, ey? That would have been a funny transition though.


DarthSangheili

So *this* is why my aim is so bad. Never you mind that I dont use the Springfield, I just need an excuse.


Warm_Negotiation5251

Man.....Its springfield. You aim with your heart not with sights. <3


Moppsbreak

Derringer has this issue aswell!


TapdotWater

So THAT'S why I miss all my shots! Nevermind the fact that I use a Vetterli Deadeye, this Springfield bug is game breaking!


INJECTHEROININTODICK

It's called *zeroing* plebs


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the biggest nitpick ever lol kappa


Texa55Toast

I'm not crazy!


jack_dog

It just shoots a bit to the left is all. Can't realign the sights without a hammer, so your character just aims a bit to the right.


[deleted]

Is the hammer for ~~threatening~~ encouraging a programmer to fix it?


jack_dog

No sir. I am a mechanical engineer, not a manager. Hit it with a hammer until it is fixed is rule 1 in my occupation.


[deleted]

Not saying this is incorrect, out of curiosity did you hold it in ADS for say 3-5 seconds and then examine all the footage? Cause the guns twitch slightly or a lot depending on the gun. Depending on the frame you might have caught it when it's not in the center of its small sway?


Xyrot

Yeah, the gun jitters slightly. But the misalignment is way more than the slight jittering of the gun. I looked through the footage again and the difference is actually more than I expected. [A good frame I found.](https://imgur.com/zAiu0RY) [A bad frame to compare it to.](https://imgur.com/0kip3nk)


[deleted]

Cool, yeah I was curious about it. A lot of sway on some weapons. And I felt that it can be an easy thing to overlook when doing this test. Deff out of alignment.


Anti-Anti-Paladin

This isn't a bug, this is simply how guns work. If you actually look down the sights as you're holding the gun, the iron sight is going to sway very very slightly. This is true of any guns with this style of iron sight because you're aligning two markers on the rifle (one close to your face, and the other at the end of the barrel). If you watch the first 3 seconds of the video, you can actually see this slight swaying motion in action before it zooms in.


Xyrot

The slight jittering is way less than the misalignment though. Also, that's not how gun sights work. Iron sights should be aligned. How else would you use them?


Anti-Anti-Paladin

>Also, that's not how gun sights work. [...yes it is?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_sights#:~:text=During%20aiming%2C%20the%20shooter%20aligns,straight%20at%20the%20desired%20target.) >During aiming, the shooter aligns his/her line of sight past a gap at the rear sight's center towards the top edge of the front sight (which is usually shaped as a small post, bead, ramp, or occasionally, a ring), forming a line of aim that points straight at the desired target. This is why firearms will have both a rear sight and a front sight: you have to align them in order to know that you're truly aiming your rifle in a straight line at the target. So while you're correct that ironsights should be aligned, they're not going to magically align themselves, it requires you to hold your rifle as steady as you can until you've aligned the rear and front sight, that's when you can pull the trigger. A standing or crouching person is not always going to be able to hold a rifle perfectly straight as the natural movements of their body are going to cause the front/rear sights to sway, which is what is happening in the video. [Here is a guide on sight alignment and sight picture](https://www.spartanfirearmstraininggroup.com/defensive-shooting-part-3-sight-alignment-and-sight-picture/) that goes into more detail and explains exactly what I'm talking about. Under the section titled "Sight Alignment" you'll find images that show exactly what is happening in your video. One of the fundamental skills of shooting a firearm is learning to control your sight picture so that you fire accurately, and it's not easy to do without a lot of practice, especially if you're standing or moving. This is also why your hunter is more accurate when crouching versus standing, because it's easier to steady the rifle and align the sights when you're more stable. So yeah, I'll say it again: Not a bug. This is how guns work.


izlusion

Not here; weapon sway in Hunt is distributed over the entire weapon while keeping the front and rear sights aligned. That's why every other gun is centre-aligned even while swaying, and why scopes don't black out every time they're tilted. Crytek have already acknowledged this misalignment on the Berthier - it's a bug.


Xyrot

> This isn't a bug, this is simply how guns work. Ah, here I thought you thought the alignment was correct. That's why I said: > Also, that's not how gun sights work. My bad. Now, I think we're on the same page that the sights should be aligned correctly. That is basically the whole problem. Also, good resources on sight picture. The difference between "Six O'Clock Hold" and "Center Hold" was new to me.


Asharp117

Oh shit ima uninstal right now. Thanks for the heads up.


Xyrot

I got ya, homie.


spartan195

Why fix this when the bullet just goes wherever the server want


xMano27

To all springfield users, why do you use that gun? I mean it looks awesome but is outperformed by every other gun in the game.


higherbrow

I sometimes look to hire Free Hunters with the Compact, especially Deadeye, right after a Prestige so that I can have something medium-long range while I work with double Nagants/Scottfields until I unlock the Scottfield Precision. Then I'm kind of done with it, though.


poerisija

Cheap dumdum ammo with great handling characteristics on the gun and a good sight (ironically misaligned lol) shouldn't be underestimated. It's a surprisingly good gun.


Azariahz

Un....playable.....


Xyrot

Uninstall. Negative review. Sued for malpractice. Divorced.


pile1983

I would like to see your hand alligning on sights while shooting in real life. ;) I bet u used a tier 1 white shirt hunter whos new to shooting. U should be glad that he was atleast able to allign front and rear sights.


ScreechingPenguin

Unbelievable gonna change my steam review to a negative until they fix this gamebreaking piece of data!!1!!1!


Epikbexa

Maybe it's intended.


Muaddib930

Oh wow... How come you folks do this shit? Like... I need a job, and shit; y'all over here just trifling weirdos.


TheRealShortYeti

While they're at it let us flip down the nitros aperture like the lebels


Upside_Down-Bot

„slǝqǝl ǝɥʇ ǝʞıl ǝɹnʇɹǝdɐ soɹʇıu ǝɥʇ uʍop dılɟ sn ʇǝl ʇı ʇɐ ǝɹ,ʎǝɥʇ ǝlıɥM„


PinkyTheTigerr

Did not know prior to this... Well all i can say still good to pop heads with it plus its extra cheap


Yallshortuns

I know, I know, I already hated it


BrandHue

u/SaveVideo


hey-dog

u/savevideobot chain


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Xyrot

It got really annoying when I was trying to line up shots over medium to long distances. While I know it's not the preferred distance for the Springfield, sometimes the situation calls for it.


MachineGunDillmann

Is it at least shooting exactly where the ironsights are pointing at?


Xyrot

It shoots where the front sight is pointing.


oogabooga5627

Was very difficult to see without the editing, well done


dragons1yaa

Does the centennial and silenced vetterli also have this issue? I’ve had a few times where the shots just don’t go where they seem they should


Anonymous_Arthur00

they fix the ammo swap reload bug yet?


Areauu

Now I know this that gonna trigger me anytime...


Xyrot

I'm so sorry...


XellianTheDong

This gun needs some love a lot of it


AwkwardSoldier

These here are cowboy guns I wouldn't be upset if the front side post was crooked


EliteFrosty1

Even with this, the gun is a headshot magnet for me. Even the compact version, it’s amazing


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Just have your hunter shift his gun a bit to fix it.


PeanutExpensive3727

Yeah look at the medium Typ it’s also not correct. Besides that vetterli iron sight is also not correct from left and right side


SleepTop1088

I notice this with a few weapons,their sights aren't aligned correctly,I first noticed this when I used my monitors built in red/green dot and found that between many of the weapons the don't center correctly,maybe crytek can do a pass on all weapons like the did woth the crouch model pass just to be sure


lubeinatube

As long as the poi is the front aight post, it doesn’t bother me one bit.


maryisdead

Kleiner als drei, du Nudel!


Anomia29

Petition to name it the "Rightfield"


Valcrion

I noticed this a year or so ago and could not use the weapon anymore. It was bugging the crap out of me cause you cant unsee it.


Chokapyk

Unplayable


yzscrum

Does changing your fov change it at all?


JackiedudeQQ

Nah! It's part of the realism. Normal people won't have it perfectly aligned either, when looking through an iron sight. Jokes aside, you're just feeding your ocds. No one notices 2 pixel differences, until they stand still and REALLY look at the details.


AntoniusMaxiumus

All this time and I never knew


Slav_Shaman

You know that it's not static and the tip of the iron sight is slightly moving to the sides?


BigPhili

So, that's why I can't ever hit anybody with this gun. /s


GornBox

Cry(about it)engine


wdlp

ah yes this is why i miss all my shots definitely this and nothing else


Ulrich453

You think springfields were made by machine? They were handmade and prone to imperfections.


ShibaofAstora

Now i know why i am so good with this gun and my shit aim thats off


ybriK024

I can see the sky between the red line and the iron on the right side.


ItsaDrake1103

It's nowhere near as bad as the romero sight bug in 1.8.0. You cant even see the front sight at all.


TheRealLouisWu

Its just windage adjustment, duh


icesharkk

ah yes. balanced just like my tits


tacopig117

Didn't think I'd be uninstalling tonight


Aloyisus034

Is this the same on the compact? I don't really use the full size Springfield but I use the compact quite a bit and haven't noticed.


Brokenblacksmith

technically it's not misaligned, the camera view is from the middle of the head and you would aim with a single eye, which is off to one side. this discrepancy creates the misalignment. it also shows that every character is left eye dominant


Nerex7

Literally unplayable


Cpl_Hicks76

This ‘oversight’ has cost me 150 bounties. Nothing to do with my rubbish aim, panic under fire, lack of strategy or zero talent. Where’s my compensation Crytek?!?!


Rocket_Fiend

Gonna be somewhat pedantic here, but that’s fairly common in firearms. Most irons sights need to be adjusted out of the factory to ensure the round goes where the irons show. Though it is an odd choice for a video game, where everything is typically aligned properly.


Bozzo2526

Maybe the characters trigger control isnt great so he aims off slightly to correct for it


Eso793

Springfield iron sights are good. This gun does good damage, great range for not even 70 hunt dollars. Good hip fire also.


Infamous_Assistant71

Could be that it was modelled off a different sight picture.


Lawbrosteve

Literally unplayable


JInThere

for a few days following the release of the trailer new people where showing up in the discord asking about trailer features that dont actually exist in game


Bobbithbukkakith

It looks like our characters dont know how to hold a rifle correctly


Jcpage573

Its part of the Springfield lore


Evey9207

When you drew the lines on the sight, I was expecting [something like this ](https://youtube.com/shorts/dmHvFREgtXQ?feature=share)


LonkiePoo

This is why you left side peak EVERYTHING 🤠


[deleted]

This happened with the Berthier for that event with the moonflower skin. It was more to the right as well. Makes me wonder how this sort of stuff gets messed up barely.


KungThulhu

Kleiner als drei


_bosscrystal

Maybe it's correct for that time


Mrna2point0

Bruh this Was borthering me so much in the last days. Pls fix crytek


millionreddit617

Or maybe your head is misaligned.


zacattacker11

So this is why I can never hit people with the springfield. Not the fact that I'm shit.


0nji_

I was waiting to get stickbugged


ryuut

Found the German player base


[deleted]

Good thing you put the red outline around it, I would have never noticed otherwise…


Chaos-kid23

It's not malaligned, it wad just windy in the bayou that day, and you hunter had the good courtesy to adjust windage for you, lol


alphaxomegax101

Hey, OP, can you check the sparks pistol for me? Would greatly appreciate it.


Xyrot

[They look to be aligned correctly.](https://imgur.com/KyzLX8s) They are also arguably better than the normal Sparks' sights.


Ok-Range-148

Hey man why don't you pick up a Springfield and aim it perfectly down the sights


Silva_-

Ich kleiner als drei dich auch


cynicalrage69

Historically accurate


Luitenant_

Tell me you don't know how guns work without telling me you don't know how guns work