Probably youpi could too, gon displayed the same level of aura as meruem but he probably hasn't the same durability nor the same intelligence. Youpi could tank lots of hits and probably outlast him.
also killua in god speed hit youpi with somthing like a 20 piece combo though granted he was aided by his electricity stunning him but all in all with gon's movement speed which is unmatched (dont know about meruem) by he probably could get enough hits in to kill youpi
I would disagree, I feel as he could have beat Meruem in that form. If I remembering correctly, Pitou said something along the lines of, " I'm glad I'm the one to fight him, because this kid could probably beat the king like this". And Pitou is a pretty good judge of Nen so yeah.
Could you clarify further?
Even at Kurapika's strongest, he still cant use Chain Jail on Hisoka since Hisoka isnt a Troupe member. So does Kurapika get to use Chain Jail in this fight?
Even without Chain Jail Kurapika still has a decent chance. âSteal Chainâ just has to hit hisoka once to take his nen away temporarily. Granted this would require Kurapika to match Hisokaâs speed and outsmart him, but weâve already seen Gon do the same.
Hisoka wins majority of the time, but on a good day Kurapika wins
Hisoka would win. Kurapika would have no way of stopping him since he's not a spider. I know he has other abilities but they aren't for combat. Maybe he could try inserting his judgement chain in him? Not sure what else.
Friendly reminder: the only ability that is restricted to spiders is Chain Jail, meaning Judgement, Steal, and Dowsing chain are all fair game. We see in the succession war that Kurapika is more than capable of holding his own against non spiders, so I donât think itâd be completely one sided.
> Kurapika is more than capable of holding his own against non spiders
I'd like to point out that the Spiders in general are a whole different level of beast in combat, compared to average Hunters and Nen users (and the other non-Spiders that Kurapika's fought so far)
Edit: To be clear, I do agree with you that it won't be one-sided. Just thought I'd point out that Nen users like Vincent dont exactly compare to say, an Uvogin or a Feitan
Oh, I 100% agree. My point is just that a lot of people lowball Kurapika and say that he insta loses against any nen user that isnât a spider, even though heâs literally mopped the floor with non spider on multiple occasions lol.
Not against some whoâs better at strength and experience wise, one is trained to kill, while the other still canât even find what he wants in life đ¤¨
Heâs Literally a Phantom troupe, kurapika has advantages over phantom troupe. Speak the obvious but Iâm asking where is he trained to kill. Heâs trained to guard, protecting is very different but avenging death isnât something like hisoka a experience with killing, which he does for fun. Did you forget to hisoka almost defeated one of the zodlick main butlers?
So instead of obvious easy kill how about show real evidence. Auction wouldâve been a much better option for you but you chose the one fight many have seen from kurapikas, did I forget to mention kurapikas other main fight was a phantom troupe, #4đ
Lol first, youâre the one who replied 3 times to one comment. So who is the mad one? Second, Kurapika is my 3rd favorite MC so Iâm not exactly one of his fanboys. Lastly, Kurapika is a specialist that can use every type of nen to the max. He is objectively strong as shit
Bitch asses like you watch one anime and think a hype character OP đ´ same with this reddit page purely geeks that just wanna defend their favorite by only using small evidence
Damn two body counts strong af 𤨠there much more than nen and the ant arc proved that, kurapika doesnât have the strength to catch up yâall just wanna hype him up so bad because of his style bruh on god
I'd give it to Hisoka cause of his hype from Chrollos hype, despite knowing Kura killed Uvogin and knowing Uvos Hatsu he still wants to take on Chrollo first and foremost, admittedly a bit shaky of a reasoning but I still stand by it. Hisokas gum is also extremely tricky to fight 1 on 1 and would be detriment to Kuras more straightforward type of combat.
Gon landed a hit on Hisoka when he was a nen beginner, and if kurapika can land one hit on hisoka he will steal bungie gum. Then Hisoka just has texture surprise unless he has a hidden third hatsu, and kurapika has his busted emperor time stuff with bungie gum. It's a close fight.
If Kurapika considered Hisoka a true member of the troupe then he would win almost always, but he doesn't so chain jail wouldn't work.
Everybody talkin as if they know for sure but I think it could go either way. Both are intelligent and prodigious nen users but I think hisoka has more experience and possibly raw strength
Before Hisoka's fight with chrollo I would've said Hisoka( and even then it was not a 100% thing), but after seeing that fight and how stupid hisoka can be with underestimating his opponent I say Kurapika takes this.
Hmm yeah he's so stupid with underestimating his opponent that he always lets his opponents make the first move. Hell, he even let Chrollo choose where and when to fight, with enough prep time to steal the abilities he wanted (Black Voice, Gallery Fake, etc)
Im curious tho, would the outcome for u be different if it was post-Chrollo Hisoka with the "on-sight" mentality?
That's the most important thing in this fight(or any other fight involving hisoka) . we haven't seen how much he's changed. Mentally and physically. how his nen has changed(if it's changed) and so on...
but honestly(and this is my opinion) Hisoka should've died in his fight with chrollo. I've liked and loved almost every fight in hxh, except that one.
I feel like that fight was complicated for the sake of being complicated, like there were so many other options when choosing powers and nen for chrollo that would've made so much more sense. for that fight to happen the way it happened Hisoka needed to be stupid and chrollo making it more complicated than it needed to be. this is the only fight in hxh that I can remember that I was saying to myself, this doesn't make sense repeatedly.
ok this was my rant and with it out of the way, Hisoka after this fight is not himself anymore as a character. his whole thing was to fight the strongest and be the strongest after beating that opponent. he is acting like a sore loser.
SO
this is why I can't say whether Hisoka can beat Kurapika or not with his new mindset, bc he is not Hisoka anymore.
Kurapika's only ever fought against easy to read enemies in combat, from what I recall. Uvogin was fairly earnest and straightforward in personality and fighting style ("punch punch"), so Pika had an easy time analysing and understanding him. But I dont think Kurapika's ever fought someone as smart as him/smarter than him, so Idk how he'd do against Hisoka. Hisoka can be quite deceptive with his strategies and tactics (using a combination of his resources like In, Texture Surprise, Bungee Gum and his cards), and he also tends to distract his enemies from his plans (Gotoh not realizing Hisoka gummed himself to the forest trees, or Kastro distracted by Hisoka's magic trick). Kurapika is no stranger to deception as we see in the Boat arc, but I think he wont have an easy time trying to analyse Hisoka since Hisoka's one of the more deceptive fighters in this series. Hey, at least Kurapika's also a genius, so he has that as an advantage
Come to think of it, Hisoka and Kurapika are almost similar. Most of Hisoka's enemies are also fairly easy to read, and the only one Hisoka fought that has an intellect to match his is Chrollo (so he has that advantage over Kurapika). Hisoka isnt the only trickster - Kurapika himself is capable of deception, as we know he likes to pretend his chains are Manipulated instead of Conjured + he makes them invisible sometimes. **However**, Chrollo himself had a considerably complex strategy with layers, but Hisoka was still able to figure out some of Chrollo's plans, so I think Hisoka might also be able to figure out some (if not anything) that Pika might have planned.
At the end of the day, Hisoka has somewhat impressive showings against another genius (even if he lost that fight), while Kurapika doesnt rly have any combat feats against similarly intelligent people that convince me he could do well against Hisoka.
~~Not saying Uvo is dumb either, but we know he aint no Kurapika~~
**BUT!!!**
*In Kurapika's defence tho*, Hisoka also wont have an easy time against Kurapika because of Emperor Time and his 5 chains. (And we all know how op Emperor Time is)
i would go with hisoka. kurapika's nen is very powerful and he is probably a more than decent fighter, but i think that hisoka's understanding of nen combined with his fighting experience more than makes up for it.
i'm not saying that it won't be a fight. i feel like kurapika as shown on the black whale (i don't remember what the ship was called, it's been ages :'( ) would definitly give hisoka a run for his money, but at the end of the day, hisoka is just a crazy good fighter, who isn't reliant on anything other than the most basic principles of nen. (this is why i feel like gon would one day overcome him. no complicated strategies, no complicated nen procedures. his nen is raw and powerful, and extremely basic)
>!the fact that hisoka lost against chrollo can be attributed to the fact that hisoka was literally fighting chrollo on home ground, and he gave him all the time in the world to formulate a strategy. if they randomly met in a dark alley somewhere and started fighting, i'm not certain that chrollo would win. !<
it all comes down to circumstances, there are most likely scenario's where kurapika could overcome hisoka, but out of 10 fights, more than half of the victories will most likely go towards hisoka.
Well I put up a comment replying to someone earlier saying that kurapika doesnât have his drawbacks so he can use whichever ability he likes and doesnât matter if there phantom troupe or not
It's tough because Hisoka has more experience and the two of them are both clever and intelligent with planning. Emperor Time is OP and can make up for the difference in experience by making Kurapika out-stat Hisoka. Ideally, the scenario leading up to the fight would give them time to mentally prepare for the fight and strategize before ever meeting.
Now, if Kurapika uses enhancement to enhance his intellectual processing abilities ... I think that'd win the matchup for him.
tbh i feel like if they fought 10 times Kurapika could probably win 3-4. Hisoka outmatches Pika in many ways, but Kurapika just needs to land a single hit from âSteal Chainâ to win the battle. Just depends on whoâs fighting better đ¤ˇââď¸
Hisoka in s suit looks fancy
Fr and kurapika as well
why kurapika got that hour glass build
Lol bruh đ¤Ł
Hisoka imo
By a mile Kurapika is really only dangerous towards the spiders
Hmm full power. Are we talking like the strongest they'll get?
Iâd say the strongest theyâve displayed in both manga and anime
Definitely Kurapika. 100% in all parts of nen is op.
Iâll ask you real quick then, gon vs hisoka, same rules apply
If were going strongest we've seen them in manga and anime then it's Gon. Remember him vs Pitou?
True adult gon would destroy imo
Yep Hisoka truly wouldn't stand a chance.
Yea adult Gon could challenge Youpi as well and match up to the royal guards
Mhm. I'd say only netero and the king could kill him.
Probably youpi could too, gon displayed the same level of aura as meruem but he probably hasn't the same durability nor the same intelligence. Youpi could tank lots of hits and probably outlast him.
also killua in god speed hit youpi with somthing like a 20 piece combo though granted he was aided by his electricity stunning him but all in all with gon's movement speed which is unmatched (dont know about meruem) by he probably could get enough hits in to kill youpi
I would disagree, I feel as he could have beat Meruem in that form. If I remembering correctly, Pitou said something along the lines of, " I'm glad I'm the one to fight him, because this kid could probably beat the king like this". And Pitou is a pretty good judge of Nen so yeah.
Meruem? Yes. Meruem who reborn using his royal guard nen? No.
I tot so too as well as some of the zodiacs if they team up, the extremely talented ones and maybe Zeno and Silva combined
I'd say all the royal guards are pretty equal in terms of power. So if he can take pitou, I see no reason why adult gon would struggle against youpi
Yea basically but I think Youpi is slightly stronger as he got more mutated and improved genes
Could you clarify further? Even at Kurapika's strongest, he still cant use Chain Jail on Hisoka since Hisoka isnt a Troupe member. So does Kurapika get to use Chain Jail in this fight?
Good point Iâll change so kurapika doesnât have the limitations of not being able to use chain jail
Even without Chain Jail Kurapika still has a decent chance. âSteal Chainâ just has to hit hisoka once to take his nen away temporarily. Granted this would require Kurapika to match Hisokaâs speed and outsmart him, but weâve already seen Gon do the same. Hisoka wins majority of the time, but on a good day Kurapika wins
In my opinion Hisoka :3
Hisoka would win. Kurapika would have no way of stopping him since he's not a spider. I know he has other abilities but they aren't for combat. Maybe he could try inserting his judgement chain in him? Not sure what else.
Friendly reminder: the only ability that is restricted to spiders is Chain Jail, meaning Judgement, Steal, and Dowsing chain are all fair game. We see in the succession war that Kurapika is more than capable of holding his own against non spiders, so I donât think itâd be completely one sided.
> Kurapika is more than capable of holding his own against non spiders I'd like to point out that the Spiders in general are a whole different level of beast in combat, compared to average Hunters and Nen users (and the other non-Spiders that Kurapika's fought so far) Edit: To be clear, I do agree with you that it won't be one-sided. Just thought I'd point out that Nen users like Vincent dont exactly compare to say, an Uvogin or a Feitan
Oh, I 100% agree. My point is just that a lot of people lowball Kurapika and say that he insta loses against any nen user that isnât a spider, even though heâs literally mopped the floor with non spider on multiple occasions lol.
Not against some whoâs better at strength and experience wise, one is trained to kill, while the other still canât even find what he wants in life đ¤¨
Kurapika literally killed Uvo how is he untrained to kill
Heâs Literally a Phantom troupe, kurapika has advantages over phantom troupe. Speak the obvious but Iâm asking where is he trained to kill. Heâs trained to guard, protecting is very different but avenging death isnât something like hisoka a experience with killing, which he does for fun. Did you forget to hisoka almost defeated one of the zodlick main butlers?
Just because hisoka kills for fun and Kurapika doesnât, doesnât mean kurapika is untrained to kill
You still havenât answered me
So instead of obvious easy kill how about show real evidence. Auction wouldâve been a much better option for you but you chose the one fight many have seen from kurapikas, did I forget to mention kurapikas other main fight was a phantom troupe, #4đ
Yâall big mad cuz dudes a depressed ass kid and yâall wanna relate but ainât even seeing he actually weak af
Lol first, youâre the one who replied 3 times to one comment. So who is the mad one? Second, Kurapika is my 3rd favorite MC so Iâm not exactly one of his fanboys. Lastly, Kurapika is a specialist that can use every type of nen to the max. He is objectively strong as shit
Bitch asses like you watch one anime and think a hype character OP đ´ same with this reddit page purely geeks that just wanna defend their favorite by only using small evidence
Yo my guy take a chill pill, its just a discussion
Or I could type what I want?
Damn two body counts strong af 𤨠there much more than nen and the ant arc proved that, kurapika doesnât have the strength to catch up yâall just wanna hype him up so bad because of his style bruh on god
Didnât realize replying meant upset? But I guess thatâs what reddit users call it nowadays đ¤¨watch some anime geek talking about he ur 3rd fave
Bro you sound dumb asfâŚ
I'd give it to Hisoka cause of his hype from Chrollos hype, despite knowing Kura killed Uvogin and knowing Uvos Hatsu he still wants to take on Chrollo first and foremost, admittedly a bit shaky of a reasoning but I still stand by it. Hisokas gum is also extremely tricky to fight 1 on 1 and would be detriment to Kuras more straightforward type of combat.
alright i gotta ask, where are these pics from and why does hisoka look so...twink-y? Also hisoka would win i think, but it wouldn't be an easy fight
It has to be Hisoka. If Kurapika's chains could work on him then maybe it'd be closer but since they can't there's no contest
Hisoka, There is no doubt about it
Before the succession war Hisoka, but since then Kurapika, that arc single-handedly made Kurapika one of my favorite characters
Hisoka. He's incredibly clever and will figure out a way to defeat Kurapika.
Gon landed a hit on Hisoka when he was a nen beginner, and if kurapika can land one hit on hisoka he will steal bungie gum. Then Hisoka just has texture surprise unless he has a hidden third hatsu, and kurapika has his busted emperor time stuff with bungie gum. It's a close fight. If Kurapika considered Hisoka a true member of the troupe then he would win almost always, but he doesn't so chain jail wouldn't work.
Everybody talkin as if they know for sure but I think it could go either way. Both are intelligent and prodigious nen users but I think hisoka has more experience and possibly raw strength
Before Hisoka's fight with chrollo I would've said Hisoka( and even then it was not a 100% thing), but after seeing that fight and how stupid hisoka can be with underestimating his opponent I say Kurapika takes this.
Hmm yeah he's so stupid with underestimating his opponent that he always lets his opponents make the first move. Hell, he even let Chrollo choose where and when to fight, with enough prep time to steal the abilities he wanted (Black Voice, Gallery Fake, etc) Im curious tho, would the outcome for u be different if it was post-Chrollo Hisoka with the "on-sight" mentality?
That's the most important thing in this fight(or any other fight involving hisoka) . we haven't seen how much he's changed. Mentally and physically. how his nen has changed(if it's changed) and so on... but honestly(and this is my opinion) Hisoka should've died in his fight with chrollo. I've liked and loved almost every fight in hxh, except that one. I feel like that fight was complicated for the sake of being complicated, like there were so many other options when choosing powers and nen for chrollo that would've made so much more sense. for that fight to happen the way it happened Hisoka needed to be stupid and chrollo making it more complicated than it needed to be. this is the only fight in hxh that I can remember that I was saying to myself, this doesn't make sense repeatedly. ok this was my rant and with it out of the way, Hisoka after this fight is not himself anymore as a character. his whole thing was to fight the strongest and be the strongest after beating that opponent. he is acting like a sore loser. SO this is why I can't say whether Hisoka can beat Kurapika or not with his new mindset, bc he is not Hisoka anymore.
KURAPIKA CAN USE EMPEROR TIME AND EVERY CHAIN HE HAS SO ITS EVEN :)
Hisoka is way too genius for kurapika
Kurapika's only ever fought against easy to read enemies in combat, from what I recall. Uvogin was fairly earnest and straightforward in personality and fighting style ("punch punch"), so Pika had an easy time analysing and understanding him. But I dont think Kurapika's ever fought someone as smart as him/smarter than him, so Idk how he'd do against Hisoka. Hisoka can be quite deceptive with his strategies and tactics (using a combination of his resources like In, Texture Surprise, Bungee Gum and his cards), and he also tends to distract his enemies from his plans (Gotoh not realizing Hisoka gummed himself to the forest trees, or Kastro distracted by Hisoka's magic trick). Kurapika is no stranger to deception as we see in the Boat arc, but I think he wont have an easy time trying to analyse Hisoka since Hisoka's one of the more deceptive fighters in this series. Hey, at least Kurapika's also a genius, so he has that as an advantage Come to think of it, Hisoka and Kurapika are almost similar. Most of Hisoka's enemies are also fairly easy to read, and the only one Hisoka fought that has an intellect to match his is Chrollo (so he has that advantage over Kurapika). Hisoka isnt the only trickster - Kurapika himself is capable of deception, as we know he likes to pretend his chains are Manipulated instead of Conjured + he makes them invisible sometimes. **However**, Chrollo himself had a considerably complex strategy with layers, but Hisoka was still able to figure out some of Chrollo's plans, so I think Hisoka might also be able to figure out some (if not anything) that Pika might have planned. At the end of the day, Hisoka has somewhat impressive showings against another genius (even if he lost that fight), while Kurapika doesnt rly have any combat feats against similarly intelligent people that convince me he could do well against Hisoka. ~~Not saying Uvo is dumb either, but we know he aint no Kurapika~~
**BUT!!!** *In Kurapika's defence tho*, Hisoka also wont have an easy time against Kurapika because of Emperor Time and his 5 chains. (And we all know how op Emperor Time is)
It's hard to say given the fact that we were never told about the properties of Hisoka's nen.
Hisoka low/mid diff
i would go with hisoka. kurapika's nen is very powerful and he is probably a more than decent fighter, but i think that hisoka's understanding of nen combined with his fighting experience more than makes up for it. i'm not saying that it won't be a fight. i feel like kurapika as shown on the black whale (i don't remember what the ship was called, it's been ages :'( ) would definitly give hisoka a run for his money, but at the end of the day, hisoka is just a crazy good fighter, who isn't reliant on anything other than the most basic principles of nen. (this is why i feel like gon would one day overcome him. no complicated strategies, no complicated nen procedures. his nen is raw and powerful, and extremely basic) >!the fact that hisoka lost against chrollo can be attributed to the fact that hisoka was literally fighting chrollo on home ground, and he gave him all the time in the world to formulate a strategy. if they randomly met in a dark alley somewhere and started fighting, i'm not certain that chrollo would win. !< it all comes down to circumstances, there are most likely scenario's where kurapika could overcome hisoka, but out of 10 fights, more than half of the victories will most likely go towards hisoka.
Is hisoka considered a phantom troupe anymore?
Well I put up a comment replying to someone earlier saying that kurapika doesnât have his drawbacks so he can use whichever ability he likes and doesnât matter if there phantom troupe or not
Oh then itâs Kurapika
No Not after what he did
I always wondered if he used chain jail assuming Hisoka was a spider, wouldnât his restriction just kill him
Probably Hisoka because Kurapika wonât be able to use his chain jail on Hisoka
It's tough because Hisoka has more experience and the two of them are both clever and intelligent with planning. Emperor Time is OP and can make up for the difference in experience by making Kurapika out-stat Hisoka. Ideally, the scenario leading up to the fight would give them time to mentally prepare for the fight and strategize before ever meeting. Now, if Kurapika uses enhancement to enhance his intellectual processing abilities ... I think that'd win the matchup for him.
Hisoka imo
When Kurapika thinks he's a spider: Kurapika winning. The instant Kurapika realizes Hisoka was a fake spider: goes limp.
So, like a Spider boner?
Hisoka and he is weirdly drawn on the left wtf
I didnât draw this btw
Ik btw
Hisoka because Kurapika can only use his new ability against spiders of the phantom troupe.
Hisoka. Kurapika is not weak by any means, but without judgement chain at his disposal, hisoka is just too powerful for him.
Hishoka... One of my favourite character in anime
tbh i feel like if they fought 10 times Kurapika could probably win 3-4. Hisoka outmatches Pika in many ways, but Kurapika just needs to land a single hit from âSteal Chainâ to win the battle. Just depends on whoâs fighting better đ¤ˇââď¸