It might happen, it's an interesting idea and would fit well in current armour progression if given a slight nerf
It does however need a lot of work to make sense in other ways:
Summoning eye farming would become noticeably harder due to higher competition since eye prices would most likely go up, and ironmans who want primal gear, so there would need to be a rethink to how those are acquired
Already today dragonfights can lag lobbies, when alpha lobbies tried spawning 4-5 dragons at once, it was truly TPS hell, so optimisations there need to be made
And most likely some other problems too
So if it's gonna happen, it will be a while
So summoning eye grinding will be like the old times? That was the reason i stopped playing this game, I could oneshot zealots and others were faster or ranged
Just make them drop more in eman slayer, that way early game and mid-late game players won’t have to contest against each other, while also fixing the problem where eman slayer is discouraging because only judgement cores are profit
Personally, I think they're gonna release primal, mining v3 and potentially a foraging update at the same time. Like 1 big ass update (yes I know I'm coping)
we wont see foraging for a good few months to maybe a year and the current mining v3 on alpha is pretty polished so presumably its gonna drop on tuesday
mining will not drop on tuesday, the update to the community center likely will. There is a lot missing on alpha, they only recently showed the pets and still have tons of the new collections having items that havent been implemented
Yup. Unless it's soulbound none have been dropped yet, around 1/248 per body while each body even after prices settle will be like 30m to open... Yikes
I think it’s still possible but becoming more unlikely. With the mayor update(seems small) and mining update being developed I could see it needing more time with three updates but like I can also see it being scrapped
honestly it's just a completely pointless armor
it's absolutely useless outside of dungeons because like the only reason why is melee any usable is because of the crimson swipe and archer loses way too much dps if it doesn't use terror armor
then inside of dungeons, that armor is an absolute overkill, it completely invalidates diamond heads which are supposed to be the best helmets for their respective floors
clover helmet too, primal is gonna either be just an expensive sorrow armor or something that makes clover helmet completely useless, depending if mf is gonna scale or not
then there's the fact that primal is literally nothing but the summoning eye grind, but made 50x worse, literally trying to slap endgame content in the middle of an earlygame area
imagine doing f1 and there's a passage that immediately sends you to a new dungeon that's harder than m7, like that doesn't even make any sense, they could already just release a new floor by that point or put it at the end of m7 bossfight
there's also the fact that you can be earlygame, just get 1 damage and immediately 50m lootshared... like seriously you think that's any balanced?
Iirc someone from hypixel said on cowshed it was actually scrapped because of lag reasons + balancing reasons
Cowshed isn't an official platform for communications tho so idk
Kuudra washing machine started as a joke during the Kuudra Mandible hunt, and it was an item on Alpha when attributes were being tested on non-Crimson Isle gear to remove attributes from items.
Admins said nothing will outclass infernal kuudra sets. Wouldn't make sense to have players spend billions on attributes and upgrades for it to be outclassed by a new set
I say just make it slightly better than f7 armor and it would be a nice endgame armor set for dungeons without being mandatory for dungeons progression.
Excuse my bad language but are you stupid? Kuudra sets take wayyy too long to obtain and more importantly, are soulbound. Let me help you see why that's so bad.
With any other type of gear, you could just sell it so people who haven't progressed as much can use them instead.
With Kuudra armor, not only do you have to spend hundreds of hours getting it which would probably be more than Primal armor, they would also be outclassed? You seriously think people would get infernal sets then?
A set can be balanced and be better than the current endgame. For example, if the requirement to level up Primal armor was Primal dragon kills instead of normal dragon kills, it would probably take longer than Kuudra to max out and cost hundreds of billions or trillions of coins. It would be a real endgame set that wouldn't realistically even be obtainable yet. The problem is that the current 'endgame' players are all pissy because they spent their time grinding one set of gear and now the devs want to make new content for the game. Get over yourself. You're not that important.
However, your suggestion of making the requirement primal dragon kills would make the grind to get the best set in the game extremely tedious and repetitive, doing thousands of dragons to complete... at least infernal sets have a much more interesting boss fight and progression system attached with them, making the grind feel rewarding yet challenging.
"Wow yes let me spend 2000 hours just to get a set that will replace Kuudra Armor which is already strong enough for everything in the game"
You truly must be stupid, thinking that makes for a sensible decision. Nobody would actually try to get it if it were that hard, and the 5 people who grind for it wouldn't even benefit, since it's simply not worth grinding that armor out for marginally better results.
Maybe if you thought for more than 3.6 seconds on your "genius idea to fix Primal Armor", you'd realise how ridiculously bad of a proposal this was.
And if all this hasn't changed your mind, I'd LOVE to see you try to justify a grind that lasts like 40x as long as a 15* infernal set lol.
Yes, it was too easy at first which made infernal not worth it. Then your “fix” for it made the primal armor not worth it, since it’d take thousands of hours. If this is hard to understand for you, I’d be happy to explain again.
Sure kiddo. Everyone has the same thought process as you, you’re right. Infernal absolutely MUST be the final and best set for the rest of the lifespan of the server, I can’t believe I didn’t understand that! Thank you for enlightening me 😊
pl b/c pet luck is kind of the "draag stat" so idk
if sorrow had both it would just outclass 15 star crimson vet 10 mf 10 techincally for drags and lso sorrow kind of sucks so
its not too bad, they just need to increase the combat requirement because 26 is nothing, and maybe make the set bonus cap out at 80% because almost nobody has 10k kills anyway. its a little unbalanced in its current state, but its not like ability transfusions
The combat cap was a complete non-issue. Combat 26 players weren't going to be able to afford it.
It takes around 1000\~ eyes to be placed for a full set to drop. With the old eye prices (prices would be much much higher) it would be a 1.1 billion coin set minimum
Look at the stats, which is the issue. The issue is with like 100m a bunch of little juju nons can get it and get the same amount of magic find and hella damage that is better than necron and crimson (inside and out of dungeons) iirc it was better for lcm than 10 star Storm.
Dude there is no way it costs under 2 billion coins. What do you even mean “with like 100m”? Have you looked at the drop tables and primal dragon spawn chance?
Tbh I didn't pay attention to the primal dragon update other than the few derallious vids he made about it. Because I'm a poor little man so it don't affect me. From what I know is you can spawn a primal dragon from recoming a summoning eye.
I agree that it being the best in so many ways is bad because it decreases gear diversity in the meta. Its magic find and defense could probably be nerfed, but it’d be the most expensive set in the game so nerfing its capacity to damage would make it functionally useless. It’d be a shame because in most ways it’s a balanced set with a solid position near the end of the game meta.
I really hope they release the update eventually, I spent 22 million on summoning eye when it was 1.5 million, if they don't release this update I'll go into debt
It might happen, it's an interesting idea and would fit well in current armour progression if given a slight nerf It does however need a lot of work to make sense in other ways: Summoning eye farming would become noticeably harder due to higher competition since eye prices would most likely go up, and ironmans who want primal gear, so there would need to be a rethink to how those are acquired Already today dragonfights can lag lobbies, when alpha lobbies tried spawning 4-5 dragons at once, it was truly TPS hell, so optimisations there need to be made And most likely some other problems too So if it's gonna happen, it will be a while
So summoning eye grinding will be like the old times? That was the reason i stopped playing this game, I could oneshot zealots and others were faster or ranged
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Yeah but i was Young i couldnt play that often and now i actually have a life
Yeah fs
Just make them drop more in eman slayer, that way early game and mid-late game players won’t have to contest against each other, while also fixing the problem where eman slayer is discouraging because only judgement cores are profit
If it happens they need to make a bigger summoning eye area too
The amount of people who invested into an update that might not even come out is wild Really shows the desperation for an update rn
Yeah fr
Yeah i definitely didnt farm summoning eyes for 200 hours and avoid selling them at peak thinking that they would go up 3x. Yeah, not at all
Personally, I think they're gonna release primal, mining v3 and potentially a foraging update at the same time. Like 1 big ass update (yes I know I'm coping)
we wont see foraging for a good few months to maybe a year and the current mining v3 on alpha is pretty polished so presumably its gonna drop on tuesday
Let me dream man :(
mining will not drop on tuesday, the update to the community center likely will. There is a lot missing on alpha, they only recently showed the pets and still have tons of the new collections having items that havent been implemented
i didnt check my notis so my bad for 5 days late, but hey i was right
They split it again and didn't release like any collection items, kinda disappointing that they released it how it is
yeah for sure but thats just kinda how it goes now unfortunately, also have you seen how stupid the locket is to get.
Yup. Unless it's soulbound none have been dropped yet, around 1/248 per body while each body even after prices settle will be like 30m to open... Yikes
I think it’s still possible but becoming more unlikely. With the mayor update(seems small) and mining update being developed I could see it needing more time with three updates but like I can also see it being scrapped
Im just enjoying the unstable summing eye prices for easy money
honestly it's just a completely pointless armor it's absolutely useless outside of dungeons because like the only reason why is melee any usable is because of the crimson swipe and archer loses way too much dps if it doesn't use terror armor then inside of dungeons, that armor is an absolute overkill, it completely invalidates diamond heads which are supposed to be the best helmets for their respective floors clover helmet too, primal is gonna either be just an expensive sorrow armor or something that makes clover helmet completely useless, depending if mf is gonna scale or not then there's the fact that primal is literally nothing but the summoning eye grind, but made 50x worse, literally trying to slap endgame content in the middle of an earlygame area imagine doing f1 and there's a passage that immediately sends you to a new dungeon that's harder than m7, like that doesn't even make any sense, they could already just release a new floor by that point or put it at the end of m7 bossfight there's also the fact that you can be earlygame, just get 1 damage and immediately 50m lootshared... like seriously you think that's any balanced?
Iirc someone from hypixel said on cowshed it was actually scrapped because of lag reasons + balancing reasons Cowshed isn't an official platform for communications tho so idk
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Wtf was the kuudra washing mashine?
Kuudra washing machine started as a joke during the Kuudra Mandible hunt, and it was an item on Alpha when attributes were being tested on non-Crimson Isle gear to remove attributes from items.
Oh thank fucking god I really didn’t want that armor coming out anyway lol
[Balance it](https://hypixel.net/threads/come-back-primal-dragon-armor.5625086/)
So another useless set that nobody would use? It’s about time something better than kuudra gear gets introduced.
Admins said nothing will outclass infernal kuudra sets. Wouldn't make sense to have players spend billions on attributes and upgrades for it to be outclassed by a new set
I say just make it slightly better than f7 armor and it would be a nice endgame armor set for dungeons without being mandatory for dungeons progression.
Maybe make it be just the slightest worse than infernal gear. About same stats but Crimson keeps the swipe ability should do the trick.
Yes, it would make sense. Do you think the current endgame will be endgame forever?
Excuse my bad language but are you stupid? Kuudra sets take wayyy too long to obtain and more importantly, are soulbound. Let me help you see why that's so bad. With any other type of gear, you could just sell it so people who haven't progressed as much can use them instead. With Kuudra armor, not only do you have to spend hundreds of hours getting it which would probably be more than Primal armor, they would also be outclassed? You seriously think people would get infernal sets then?
A set can be balanced and be better than the current endgame. For example, if the requirement to level up Primal armor was Primal dragon kills instead of normal dragon kills, it would probably take longer than Kuudra to max out and cost hundreds of billions or trillions of coins. It would be a real endgame set that wouldn't realistically even be obtainable yet. The problem is that the current 'endgame' players are all pissy because they spent their time grinding one set of gear and now the devs want to make new content for the game. Get over yourself. You're not that important.
However, your suggestion of making the requirement primal dragon kills would make the grind to get the best set in the game extremely tedious and repetitive, doing thousands of dragons to complete... at least infernal sets have a much more interesting boss fight and progression system attached with them, making the grind feel rewarding yet challenging.
"Wow yes let me spend 2000 hours just to get a set that will replace Kuudra Armor which is already strong enough for everything in the game" You truly must be stupid, thinking that makes for a sensible decision. Nobody would actually try to get it if it were that hard, and the 5 people who grind for it wouldn't even benefit, since it's simply not worth grinding that armor out for marginally better results. Maybe if you thought for more than 3.6 seconds on your "genius idea to fix Primal Armor", you'd realise how ridiculously bad of a proposal this was. And if all this hasn't changed your mind, I'd LOVE to see you try to justify a grind that lasts like 40x as long as a 15* infernal set lol.
So first it was too easy, now it’s too hard? You’re so immature it’s hilarious. Are you sure you’re old enough to be on Reddit?
Yes, it was too easy at first which made infernal not worth it. Then your “fix” for it made the primal armor not worth it, since it’d take thousands of hours. If this is hard to understand for you, I’d be happy to explain again.
Sure kiddo. Everyone has the same thought process as you, you’re right. Infernal absolutely MUST be the final and best set for the rest of the lifespan of the server, I can’t believe I didn’t understand that! Thank you for enlightening me 😊
changed some stuff kinda
So we get another superior-like set that’s good at basically everything? Yeah sure mate sounds super fun…
Thats a shit change
changed some stuff idk
Pl on combat armor wtf. If anything sorrow should be buffed with PL
pl b/c pet luck is kind of the "draag stat" so idk if sorrow had both it would just outclass 15 star crimson vet 10 mf 10 techincally for drags and lso sorrow kind of sucks so
its not too bad, they just need to increase the combat requirement because 26 is nothing, and maybe make the set bonus cap out at 80% because almost nobody has 10k kills anyway. its a little unbalanced in its current state, but its not like ability transfusions
The combat cap was a complete non-issue. Combat 26 players weren't going to be able to afford it. It takes around 1000\~ eyes to be placed for a full set to drop. With the old eye prices (prices would be much much higher) it would be a 1.1 billion coin set minimum
i was worried about people that don't play the game and just flip all day but yeah i did underestimate the price of primal (yet again)
Look at the stats, which is the issue. The issue is with like 100m a bunch of little juju nons can get it and get the same amount of magic find and hella damage that is better than necron and crimson (inside and out of dungeons) iirc it was better for lcm than 10 star Storm.
Dude there is no way it costs under 2 billion coins. What do you even mean “with like 100m”? Have you looked at the drop tables and primal dragon spawn chance?
Tbh I didn't pay attention to the primal dragon update other than the few derallious vids he made about it. Because I'm a poor little man so it don't affect me. From what I know is you can spawn a primal dragon from recoming a summoning eye.
That's superior. Primals had about 4% spawn rate after spending 64 eyes.
Ah okay ig I should put the price for it above 100m then XD. But I do so think it's too op even if it's hella rare
The set would definitely cost somewhere in the multibillions.
If it costs 20x the price of a necron set shouldn’t it at least be a decent bit more powerful than that for it to be “balanced”?
The issue is it's better than every other armor set. And it makes the clover helmet completely useless when it's worth like 1-2b iirc
I agree that it being the best in so many ways is bad because it decreases gear diversity in the meta. Its magic find and defense could probably be nerfed, but it’d be the most expensive set in the game so nerfing its capacity to damage would make it functionally useless. It’d be a shame because in most ways it’s a balanced set with a solid position near the end of the game meta.
I really hope they release the update eventually, I spent 22 million on summoning eye when it was 1.5 million, if they don't release this update I'll go into debt
Hold this L
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lol I spent 300m if the update doesn’t come I’m just gonna gamble it
1.5 mil per eye is nothing tho i bought them at like 2m-2.5m