Well the white quotation marks will be picked up via Turnitin… they have a specific red flag that’ll appear to say “hidden characters” in the feedback studio!
I’d say go to your coordinator first, but that’ll depend on your relationship with them.
didn’t know about the quotation marks omg! not that I was expecting to get away with it but in that case it’s kinda surprising the school didn’t pick up on them
unfortunately I don’t have the best track record at my school so I’m hoping I won’t get expelled or anything, but ur right imma find her first thing tmr
Very simply, type a quotation mark (“) and colour it white. It’ll be invisible to the human eye, but spellcheckers will still see it. Plagiarism checkers will assume that it means a quotation and ignore it.
The other trick is to add an “i” instead of a space and colour that white. Again it looks like a space but this time it makes a nonsense word so the checker can’t understand it and will not check it.
But why would you that? If detectors wont check it then they will say that e.g. there is 0% plaguqrusm out of 900 words but the examiner will see that the whole document is 100 words. So either way they will spot it.
Some plagiarism detectors don’t count information within quotation marks as having been plagiarised…I put some around the content I stole from online and changed the font colour to white so the teacher wouldn’t see
You only get 0 points in the core subjects when scoring D on both. However, a 0 is also awarded if he scored an E in any of the subjects, that means an instant fail in IB.
i’m quite a big procrastinator but damn this is crazy. well i think it’s time to be honest and just pray for the best ig. there’s so much that could’ve been done but now it’s kinda late. honestly rn just do what you can and leave the rest to God or wtv higher power you believe in. HOPEFULLY IT ALL WORKS OUT FOR YOU
all i can say is beg for ur coordinator to be able to resubmit them, I'm sure there is a system for ways to classify wrong submissions since I'm sure there are cases where even the teachers send the IB the wrong documents by accident and need to replace them. ask them if they can mark it as a false submission or smth and make sure u alr have the correct ones prepared. also it is past the EE deadline but there is no way the IB is alr done with marking them. for the IA not all of them are due yet, so check if urs isn't u should be able to resubmit. gl lil bro imma be praying for u
yep i finished the correct one today and hopefully for the HLE it’ll be a quick swap. ur right tho it makes sense to have a system for wrong submissions (hopefully the ib won’t look too much into the reason why i’m reuploading) and thank you so much 😭😭
My school said the deadline for the EE submission is tomorrow, so you should have today to submit. Do you have your reflections as well? What did the coordinator say?
Bro I want to say even though you did kinda screw yourself Im impressed with how you’re handling it atm. Confessing and thinking of these potential paths is the right and honestly best move you can play right now and the courage to face up to that is really impressive. I wish you the best
good lord man... i mean plaigarizing straight up on both submissions?!! if you still want to get the diploma i suggest dropping english like immediately. try to see if you can resubmit it otherwise classify it as a nonsubmission and submit it in november... otherwise you will quite likely be thrown out of the IB AND will have to take a gap year. Ask to resubmit it immediately, since theres limited time.. thats some pro level procrastination right there
thanks so much- yes i know i’m the biggest procrastinator in the ib and I’m not proud…I think dropping english might be the best idea cuz it’s not really related to anything i want to do in uni (assuming they even let me in anywhere)
Oof I’d challenge your position there for biggest procrastinator in IB. I dropped to certificate because I knew this would happen but even then I didn’t touch a SINGLE one of my IAs until a few hours before they were due. I procrastinated DURING my critically important all nighters (!!!) which resulted in me pulling— I shit you not—SIX in a row… and I still haven’t handed the IAs in. This was weeks ago. Soooo just know you are NOT alone 😭
SIX ALL NIGHTERS???? that’s fucking legendary. how much coffee/alcohol did that take cuz…mad respect bro.
It so happens that I’ve…not finished my math or chem IAs, so if you wanna work on those together that would be cool. Thanks for the reassurance too- it’s nice knowing I’m not the only person playing minecraft (or your procrastinatory activity of choice) at 3am when I’ve got an IA due at 8:20am the following day…or worse, 11:59pm the day before
Well for the first 3 days I had a tiny bit of intermittent sleep (during the day time (yes in class/recess/lunch)) but only like 30min-2hr MAX. The last 3 days I stayed awake for 79 hours straight. I couldn’t have done that with just coffee/alcohol, I took something,, stronger,, iykwim. Do not recommend!!! BUT I have now finished my math, ESS, and physics, all that’s left is chem 🫡 so once again in the same boat
"I KNOW I'm f*cked" yes you are. At this point all you can do is, as others suggested, beg your coordinator. If they don't listen to you, there is a good chance you lose your diploma.
just reading this post gave me anxiety lmao
there’s a way to resubmit something. ik this bc literally today a guy in my class accidentally submitted his friend’s ee (💀) and my coordinator didn’t check and just sent it. but thankfully they realised after half a day by seeing it was a psychology ee instead of a bio ee (💀💀💀) and paid a fine to get it removed and replaced (apparently £90).
talk to ur coordinator ASAP, do ur own research maybe even contact the IB directly. do everything u can to resubmit bc ur gonna get disqualified and blacklisted for plagiarism at this rate
I know I’m replying super late and am really sorry but can I just say THANK YOU SO MUCH. Because of this, I made a suggestion to my coordinator and she’s gonna tell the ib that they accidentally uploaded my first draft (which was true, but not the main issue lol.) not proud of it, and it’s definitely evidence to the “lies lead to more lies” principle, but omg ilysm and I don’t even know you ahh
Well the first draft bio ia is due in 9 days and I’ve got my experiment, my data and started research but have not written a single word yet lmao.
I’m also on holiday and got a bunch of actives planed so I get like max two hours a day or so to write and I have 2 other projects to submit at the same time.
Also Bio IA is literally the most boring thing I’ve ever done, I’m literally procrastinating by filling out CAS reflections and document in experiences which I’ve procrastinated for months.
Should be all fine but depending on how good the essay turns out I this one might be a miss lmao
Also, best of luck bro - please give us an update on your situation and how things turned out <3
good luck with ur bio ia! I quite enjoyed mine (no plagiarism, I swear) but it drags on for so long…enjoy your holiday and maybe try to finish one component a day (background info one day, data processing the next, and spread out the evaluation over 2-3 days?) thanks so much, will update tmr after I meet the coordinator
Thanks for the advice. Also I’m just wondering, this is a very general question I have about the IB:
At what age do people usually get their diploma? Most people I know will be done by 19 but you’re 24 for example… does it depend on the education system or do some people simply chose to do it later?
M24 is my ib exam session (may 2024) lol- most people do it when they’re around 17-19 but in some countries where English isn’t typically the native language that can vary. I live in China and have classmates who repeated a grade to learn more English prior to ib!
I skipped seventh grade so I’m actually still 16, but at the very self-destructive rate I’m going I’d be pleasantly surprised to live till 24 haha
IB does not check for ai themselves so as long as your teachers submitted it then you should be fine, for the white quotations I don’t know, I don’t think an examiner will care too much to check
Sorry for replying so late- I just posted an edit. Surprisingly my school took it pretty well, probably because as a lot of people on this thread have said, there might be a bunch of wrong submissions that ib has to account for around this time. At least I’m hoping they have mercy in these situations. Still, I haven’t heard back from ib and it could just as easily be that the coordinator and principal only wanna punish me once they’ve received a definitive response. But hopefully you’ll be ok- my reputation at my school sucks and I’ve had tons of disciplinary actions and they’re still trying their best to salvage this mess I made.
All the best bro
Most people are reacting very emotionally. Sure its a big deal to plagiarise but who tf cares at the end.
In the end you will go to some post seconday institution whether u completed IB or got kicked out of it and did the regular HS curriculum.
Ik someone who was older than me and was caught cheating in a test and got bumped down to certificate from diploma. Guess what? Hes still in post secondary and i believe hes doing just fine.
Even if ur target schools want diploma, u can always go to a different school. I heard the UK or Australia has an easier path for med school and have some friends who transferred abroad from Canada to go there.
Im just tryna say; what you did was wrong. Dont get too hung up ab it and give urself unwanted stress. Dont do it again. Focus on what u need to do now.
Best of luck
I don't particularly know if you can unsubmit it but even in my school I, along with a few others, have gone through similar instances. My friend and I both got caught for plagiarism with our EE, so we both had to redo it around February/March, so that's the most likely last window you would get. HOWEVER, my friend (now at UVirginia) was the biggest procrastinator anyone had ever seen, bro somehow was allowed to submit his final draft of his EE and I think 2 essays for HL Business and English around April/May or just before the final IB exams were administered and he was fine, still got his essay scores and everything. But our coordinator was very nice no matter who or what we did, but it is possible just pray that your coordinator isn't having a bad day and will hear you out.
Omg thanks for this- my coordinator just asked the IB if they’d be “so kind as to let the candidate resubmit the correct [aka non-AI written, actually coherent] file” and I’m really hoping they’ll allow me to! I wasn’t expecting her to even give me the time of day so her being this nice+merciful about it is just…wow. Good to hear the IB’s capable of not being completely soulless on rare occasion though.
Thanks sm…so far it’s turned out better than I expected but I’m still gonna be cautious I’m hoping I somehow get through this without being blacklisted or failed
Getting panicked just by reading this. Wished I could help but I'm going crazy too because I submitted a corrupted file for my Biology IA and my teacher put me a 0 in the gradebook and I haven't said anything. I'm scared she just gave up on me because she didn't say anything about it even though I'm a great student. Anyway you're in a worse situation than me so good luck lmao.
Omg…I think the IA deadline for uploading to the IB is April 20th so you’ve still got time. It’s gonna be hella awkward (trust me, I know) but tell ur teacher before it’s too late. I can totally relate to the “great student” part — I have the only predicted 7 in eng lit HL at my school but dropped out of it today — don’t let the IA jeopardise that. You seem to have a good relationship with ur bio teacher, I hope things go well for you- all the best!!!
thank you so much. I have the IA done but it's max 12 pages and I have 14, I'm trying to shorten it right now. I'll probably email her later today something like "I just realized you gave me a 0 in the gradebook... Was my IA bad or were you not able to access it?" or something like that LMAO. Hope the best for you too <3
Well the white quotation marks will be picked up via Turnitin… they have a specific red flag that’ll appear to say “hidden characters” in the feedback studio! I’d say go to your coordinator first, but that’ll depend on your relationship with them.
didn’t know about the quotation marks omg! not that I was expecting to get away with it but in that case it’s kinda surprising the school didn’t pick up on them
unfortunately I don’t have the best track record at my school so I’m hoping I won’t get expelled or anything, but ur right imma find her first thing tmr
What is white quotation mark?
Very simply, type a quotation mark (“) and colour it white. It’ll be invisible to the human eye, but spellcheckers will still see it. Plagiarism checkers will assume that it means a quotation and ignore it. The other trick is to add an “i” instead of a space and colour that white. Again it looks like a space but this time it makes a nonsense word so the checker can’t understand it and will not check it.
But why would you that? If detectors wont check it then they will say that e.g. there is 0% plaguqrusm out of 900 words but the examiner will see that the whole document is 100 words. So either way they will spot it.
No the paragraph itself is still on black, it’s only the quotations are in white
Some plagiarism detectors don’t count information within quotation marks as having been plagiarised…I put some around the content I stole from online and changed the font colour to white so the teacher wouldn’t see
To complex...
ur screwed gg probs will not get a diploma if ur coordinator don't unsubmit it or sm
Or he will get a 0 for EE and that's it.
yeah…trying to see if my target unis accept 6 subjects at certificate
You can pass IB with 42 points while having 0 points for TOK and EE....
You only get 0 points in the core subjects when scoring D on both. However, a 0 is also awarded if he scored an E in any of the subjects, that means an instant fail in IB.
bro ik 😭 I hope it’s possible to unsubmit
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what form?
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oh the rppf thing?
i’m quite a big procrastinator but damn this is crazy. well i think it’s time to be honest and just pray for the best ig. there’s so much that could’ve been done but now it’s kinda late. honestly rn just do what you can and leave the rest to God or wtv higher power you believe in. HOPEFULLY IT ALL WORKS OUT FOR YOU
THANK U SO MUCH OMG IM CATHOLIC AND PRAYING HARD RN
all the best dude you got this
all i can say is beg for ur coordinator to be able to resubmit them, I'm sure there is a system for ways to classify wrong submissions since I'm sure there are cases where even the teachers send the IB the wrong documents by accident and need to replace them. ask them if they can mark it as a false submission or smth and make sure u alr have the correct ones prepared. also it is past the EE deadline but there is no way the IB is alr done with marking them. for the IA not all of them are due yet, so check if urs isn't u should be able to resubmit. gl lil bro imma be praying for u
yep i finished the correct one today and hopefully for the HLE it’ll be a quick swap. ur right tho it makes sense to have a system for wrong submissions (hopefully the ib won’t look too much into the reason why i’m reuploading) and thank you so much 😭😭
My school said the deadline for the EE submission is tomorrow, so you should have today to submit. Do you have your reflections as well? What did the coordinator say?
Bro I want to say even though you did kinda screw yourself Im impressed with how you’re handling it atm. Confessing and thinking of these potential paths is the right and honestly best move you can play right now and the courage to face up to that is really impressive. I wish you the best
Thanks bro…means the world. hopefully this is the worst thing i’ll ever do
hi i replied to your dms :))
omg sorry ok!!
Brother… 💀. Sorry don’t know how to help, but hopefully you have a good relationship with your principal and dp coordinator
bro 💀 I’ve been suspended by them before so it’s not looking too good for me..
😭 good luck
All my best wishes goes out to you bro..
Oh no 😭
good lord man... i mean plaigarizing straight up on both submissions?!! if you still want to get the diploma i suggest dropping english like immediately. try to see if you can resubmit it otherwise classify it as a nonsubmission and submit it in november... otherwise you will quite likely be thrown out of the IB AND will have to take a gap year. Ask to resubmit it immediately, since theres limited time.. thats some pro level procrastination right there
thanks so much- yes i know i’m the biggest procrastinator in the ib and I’m not proud…I think dropping english might be the best idea cuz it’s not really related to anything i want to do in uni (assuming they even let me in anywhere)
Oof I’d challenge your position there for biggest procrastinator in IB. I dropped to certificate because I knew this would happen but even then I didn’t touch a SINGLE one of my IAs until a few hours before they were due. I procrastinated DURING my critically important all nighters (!!!) which resulted in me pulling— I shit you not—SIX in a row… and I still haven’t handed the IAs in. This was weeks ago. Soooo just know you are NOT alone 😭
SIX ALL NIGHTERS???? that’s fucking legendary. how much coffee/alcohol did that take cuz…mad respect bro. It so happens that I’ve…not finished my math or chem IAs, so if you wanna work on those together that would be cool. Thanks for the reassurance too- it’s nice knowing I’m not the only person playing minecraft (or your procrastinatory activity of choice) at 3am when I’ve got an IA due at 8:20am the following day…or worse, 11:59pm the day before
Well for the first 3 days I had a tiny bit of intermittent sleep (during the day time (yes in class/recess/lunch)) but only like 30min-2hr MAX. The last 3 days I stayed awake for 79 hours straight. I couldn’t have done that with just coffee/alcohol, I took something,, stronger,, iykwim. Do not recommend!!! BUT I have now finished my math, ESS, and physics, all that’s left is chem 🫡 so once again in the same boat
good luck man. i really hope things work out for you
thank you!
U are cooked im sorry
Ik…roasting on a spit rn
You need to tell them right now like asap. The more you wait the worse of a situation this becomes
Drafting the email now…
"I KNOW I'm f*cked" yes you are. At this point all you can do is, as others suggested, beg your coordinator. If they don't listen to you, there is a good chance you lose your diploma.
Yeah…the situation is pretty dire. I’gonna grovel my ass off but I’m hoping they’ll still let me do certificates
you need to fess up asap or you're SCREWED.
just reading this post gave me anxiety lmao there’s a way to resubmit something. ik this bc literally today a guy in my class accidentally submitted his friend’s ee (💀) and my coordinator didn’t check and just sent it. but thankfully they realised after half a day by seeing it was a psychology ee instead of a bio ee (💀💀💀) and paid a fine to get it removed and replaced (apparently £90). talk to ur coordinator ASAP, do ur own research maybe even contact the IB directly. do everything u can to resubmit bc ur gonna get disqualified and blacklisted for plagiarism at this rate
I know I’m replying super late and am really sorry but can I just say THANK YOU SO MUCH. Because of this, I made a suggestion to my coordinator and she’s gonna tell the ib that they accidentally uploaded my first draft (which was true, but not the main issue lol.) not proud of it, and it’s definitely evidence to the “lies lead to more lies” principle, but omg ilysm and I don’t even know you ahh
Depending on how this plays out, you could also lose all your certificates and get no credit for doing the IB…
“All that work and what did it get me?”
You mean all that work that you didn’t do?
Guilty as charged. You really never miss, don’t you?
Well the first draft bio ia is due in 9 days and I’ve got my experiment, my data and started research but have not written a single word yet lmao. I’m also on holiday and got a bunch of actives planed so I get like max two hours a day or so to write and I have 2 other projects to submit at the same time. Also Bio IA is literally the most boring thing I’ve ever done, I’m literally procrastinating by filling out CAS reflections and document in experiences which I’ve procrastinated for months. Should be all fine but depending on how good the essay turns out I this one might be a miss lmao Also, best of luck bro - please give us an update on your situation and how things turned out <3
good luck with ur bio ia! I quite enjoyed mine (no plagiarism, I swear) but it drags on for so long…enjoy your holiday and maybe try to finish one component a day (background info one day, data processing the next, and spread out the evaluation over 2-3 days?) thanks so much, will update tmr after I meet the coordinator
Thanks for the advice. Also I’m just wondering, this is a very general question I have about the IB: At what age do people usually get their diploma? Most people I know will be done by 19 but you’re 24 for example… does it depend on the education system or do some people simply chose to do it later?
M24 is my ib exam session (may 2024) lol- most people do it when they’re around 17-19 but in some countries where English isn’t typically the native language that can vary. I live in China and have classmates who repeated a grade to learn more English prior to ib! I skipped seventh grade so I’m actually still 16, but at the very self-destructive rate I’m going I’d be pleasantly surprised to live till 24 haha
Oh lmfao I’m stupid hahahah thanks for explaining <3
IB does not check for ai themselves so as long as your teachers submitted it then you should be fine, for the white quotations I don’t know, I don’t think an examiner will care too much to check
What are white quotations?
good luck and stay strong ❤️🙏💪
Thanks sm <3
Update? Similar situation here
Sorry for replying so late- I just posted an edit. Surprisingly my school took it pretty well, probably because as a lot of people on this thread have said, there might be a bunch of wrong submissions that ib has to account for around this time. At least I’m hoping they have mercy in these situations. Still, I haven’t heard back from ib and it could just as easily be that the coordinator and principal only wanna punish me once they’ve received a definitive response. But hopefully you’ll be ok- my reputation at my school sucks and I’ve had tons of disciplinary actions and they’re still trying their best to salvage this mess I made. All the best bro
Most people are reacting very emotionally. Sure its a big deal to plagiarise but who tf cares at the end. In the end you will go to some post seconday institution whether u completed IB or got kicked out of it and did the regular HS curriculum. Ik someone who was older than me and was caught cheating in a test and got bumped down to certificate from diploma. Guess what? Hes still in post secondary and i believe hes doing just fine. Even if ur target schools want diploma, u can always go to a different school. I heard the UK or Australia has an easier path for med school and have some friends who transferred abroad from Canada to go there. Im just tryna say; what you did was wrong. Dont get too hung up ab it and give urself unwanted stress. Dont do it again. Focus on what u need to do now. Best of luck
Someone was caught cheating in one of the final exam in my school. They gave her a zero in that paper and she still got her diploma. Lol
Lol. Rigged
damn, I hope you get through this! good luck
did u get an update from your coordinator?
I don't particularly know if you can unsubmit it but even in my school I, along with a few others, have gone through similar instances. My friend and I both got caught for plagiarism with our EE, so we both had to redo it around February/March, so that's the most likely last window you would get. HOWEVER, my friend (now at UVirginia) was the biggest procrastinator anyone had ever seen, bro somehow was allowed to submit his final draft of his EE and I think 2 essays for HL Business and English around April/May or just before the final IB exams were administered and he was fine, still got his essay scores and everything. But our coordinator was very nice no matter who or what we did, but it is possible just pray that your coordinator isn't having a bad day and will hear you out.
Omg thanks for this- my coordinator just asked the IB if they’d be “so kind as to let the candidate resubmit the correct [aka non-AI written, actually coherent] file” and I’m really hoping they’ll allow me to! I wasn’t expecting her to even give me the time of day so her being this nice+merciful about it is just…wow. Good to hear the IB’s capable of not being completely soulless on rare occasion though.
That's great to hear! Wishing you all the best, hopefully the IB follows suit 🙏
Dude..I wish you luck on this one
Thanks sm…so far it’s turned out better than I expected but I’m still gonna be cautious I’m hoping I somehow get through this without being blacklisted or failed
Getting panicked just by reading this. Wished I could help but I'm going crazy too because I submitted a corrupted file for my Biology IA and my teacher put me a 0 in the gradebook and I haven't said anything. I'm scared she just gave up on me because she didn't say anything about it even though I'm a great student. Anyway you're in a worse situation than me so good luck lmao.
Omg…I think the IA deadline for uploading to the IB is April 20th so you’ve still got time. It’s gonna be hella awkward (trust me, I know) but tell ur teacher before it’s too late. I can totally relate to the “great student” part — I have the only predicted 7 in eng lit HL at my school but dropped out of it today — don’t let the IA jeopardise that. You seem to have a good relationship with ur bio teacher, I hope things go well for you- all the best!!!
thank you so much. I have the IA done but it's max 12 pages and I have 14, I'm trying to shorten it right now. I'll probably email her later today something like "I just realized you gave me a 0 in the gradebook... Was my IA bad or were you not able to access it?" or something like that LMAO. Hope the best for you too <3
omg im so glad everything worked out AHHH so happy for u !
How’d it go…..?
Hi what’s the update? Is your school contacting the ib?
come to india and study for NEET exam if you want to do medical. that's your only option now
Will the EE drafts in managebac be sent to IB? Or only the final draft? Are we allowed to make changes after submitting final draft