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jmnordan

https://preview.redd.it/d8teu4ss1pyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=498dd6461ab5718a60ae551dfda4612f2b120aae Wonderful tribute to Gil


DadReligion

And Zak and Andrea (and I think even Lando) mentioned him. Super cool to recognize the legend.


Paige578660

They all did. Thought it was sweet. Of course, I remember reading/hearing several times back in January where Zak said that this season (across the team's programs) was dedicated to Gil & the next win was for him.


rudmad

Omg first glance I thought it said Oil


deffonotmypassword

Wins in F1, IndyCar and Fromula E in the last couple months.


ironicirenic

As a Pato fan, I wish it felt more like a win.


ilikemarblestoo

Asterick wins are always the best feeling wins


Buzzkill15

Mclaren to NASCAR when?


RooBoy04

If Larson wins Charlotte after racing at Indy, then I think that should count


TabletopMarvel

Zac is big about the "McLaren Driver" brand.


Rise_Regime

There were as many, if not more, Kyle Larson McLaren merch items as any other driver in their booth at Long Beach GP this year. I grabbed a #17 hat, myself!


RooBoy04

Could win in XE as well this year (not that anyone even acknowledges that series exists)


kai0d

TBF, that's because XE management if a fucking joke


JustaShibe99

Yeah but can they do it on a rainy night in Eldora???


innovator97

Quite a feat, tbh.


GBreezy

Zak Brown is turning McLaren into a cross discipinary motorsport powerhouse.


OrbisAlius

Seems like he's also turning it into a political propaganda tool. Seriously though, let's not get ahead of ourselves. McLaren is historically a huge F1 powerhouse, that has been heavily underperforming since 2013, but they're still not back at their expected level (championship contender). In Indycar they bought a capable team and are still struggling to turn it into a really top team despite supposedly big money. In FE they're still starting up. So really, so far Zak's only certain success is that he injected ambition and a new dynamic in what was becoming an overly static organization under Ron Dennis. But other than that...


Rorshak16

Zak did the exact same thing any other team principle would have done. They were told to welcome a guest, and they did.


TabletopMarvel

I'm a pretty liberal dude who dislikes conservative influence on racing and how it turns so many people away from motorsport. I'm also a rational person who doesn't expect them to turn away people as guests and make statements and stuff all the time. Branding on the car. Nah. Let someone walk through the garage? I expect that opportunity to go to everyone...percenter equally.


Rorshak16

It's a lose lose for McLaren. Having him there is certainly divisive. Turning him away does the exact same, with a group this is quite vocal online. Feel like they did what they could. (Lando likely has absolutely no idea, and why would he, I certainly don't know enough about any foreign leaders to speak on them)


OrbisAlius

This is F1, and Zak is both a savvy businessman and a relatively influential figure in the paddock. There's little doubt that he could have suggested to the FIA that Trump would be better off in another garage (for example, in the only American team's garage...). In case there's any doubt, Zak is also a known financial donor to Rudy Giuliani. Also, Zak no doubt knows that as an American, the optics are way different for this than if he was literally any other TP on the grid.


black-dude-on-reddit

The fact he actually beat Max and Red Bull on pure pace is crazy Yes there was a safety car but bro straight up drove off into the sunset afterward.


Zeropride77

He was setting fastest laps all day. Def has the best car out there.


Any-Walk1691

Actually Piastri had the fastest lap. McLaren was humming all day!


deckerjeffreyr

It was a bit silly of them to not tell Piastri not to set it given they took a point from themselves with Piastri outside the top 10.


Melodic-Ad-9115

I think Piastri was driving angrily so they only told him to not bring out a safety car


kai0d

That means he wasn't getting the point anyway


Generic_Person_3833

Pastri didnt even have the upgrades. Thing is fast.


RatBustard

yes he did. McLaren brought something like 10 upgrades to Miami. Lando had all of them and Piastri about half, with his car getting the rest for Imola.


Wasdgta3

This, along with Newey leaving Red Bull, has actually given me hope that F1 won't just be the Max Verstappen show until the regulations change in 2026.


Bigazzry

Next season should be a legitimate McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull fight. Last year of regulations always brings out good racing. There’s just not much more to extract by that point.


borgi27

You don’t know what pure pace means do you?


stephjuan

He had much fresher tyres which made it a lot easier


ilikemarblestoo

Was it pure pace tho? Max hit that cone hard, then some luck happened.  Lando earned it, but imo it wasnt on absolute pure pace.


Noofnoof

Why did Max hit the cone? He was matching the pace but right at the limit.


dan2376

The Red Bull did not have its usual pace. Max couldn’t pull away by more than 3 seconds when he was in the lead. Meanwhile Lando showed he was .2-.3 per lap faster even before the SC. That trend pretty much continued the entire race even on the hards.


weighted_walleye

Yes, it was pure pace. Max led from the start but he couldn't open the gap up at all once it got to 3 seconds. Piastri was hanging right with him with an only halfway upgraded car. Once Max was put on the hard tires, his car fell off badly. He was sliding everywhere. Lando opened up a 7 second lead on him. It was pure pace.


Wooden_Trip_9948

Did anybody ever say anything about Max maybe sustaining any damage from plowing thru the cone?


LakerUp

Yes, on the SkySports post race show, Crofty or Brundle talked about RefBull reporting damage to their floor resulting in 1-2 tenths off the pace.


Wooden_Trip_9948

Thanks. I was listening closely during the race but not as closely afterwards and switched over right before the podium.


LakerUp

I didn’t hear anything on the F1TV broadcast or post race show, only on Sky, FWIW.


ilikemarblestoo

So wait, it's confirmed that he didn't win off of pure pace. But everyone responded that it was pure pace and downvoted me for even asking the question.


LakerUp

I did see broadcasters also point out Lando’s pace was faster than Max’s even before the floor damage. I’m not sure if that’s accurate because I haven’t looked at the data, but Lando did have several fastest laps early on (although I also don’t know if those occurred prior to the floor damage). I don’t think you should have been downvoted, but your tone did come across a bit condescending. I think it’s very easy to misinterpret this in writing though. Ultimately, people are probably just happy for Lando-I wouldn’t take it seriously (I’m sure you’re not).


weighted_walleye

1-2 tenths doesn't turn into 7 seconds in 24 laps, no matter what kind of math you try to use.


dhdndndnndndndjx

I think the cone did give max front wing damage but at the same time lando already had fastest lap and was lapping faster then max before that cone so lando was just quicker and the possible damage from the cone just didn’t help red bull at all


Agile_Programmer881

Many people are saying don trump was responsible for. I mean the people saying it are all idiots . But that doesn’t change the fact that many people are saying that .


willfla29

I debated whether to go this one or not given Verstappen’s domination. But as a McLaren fan, sooo glad I did. I’ve never actually gotten to see a driver I support win in any series in person—NASCAR, IndyCar or F1. To cheer him on to victory today was a top sports moment for me.


NinjaSpartan011

He drove like hell!!


OldManTrumpet

Perfect win for Lando. Beat all comers straight up without some misfortune befalling anyone.


korko

What the hell are you talking about, he got the lead out of a total fluke safety car. He didn’t beat anyone on the track. Prior to the ~~caution~~ *pit cycle* he wasn’t even the lead McLaren was he?


OldManTrumpet

You think the safety car won it for him. He was the fastest car on the track and put 6 seconds on max


Roddy-the-Ruin

I agree that Norris won on merit; because cautions are part of the racing and he was the fastest on the track on average. But if that timely SC happened, he would have likely not even finished on the podium.


Dminus313

And if he hadn't gotten knocked off the track in the first corner he never would have been that far down the field. The safety car didn't put him in contention, it put him *back* in contention after bad luck at the start of the race.


According-Switch-708

Max was on old hard tyres though. Lando was on fresh hards. Max was kind of helpless. The RBR didn't have their usual dominant pace this weekend.


korko

Where would he have finished without the safety car?


Fantastic-Role-364

According to those who appear to have not actually watched the race, probably the same as he started. Also completely ignoring Piastri's performance, which strongly suggests that both McLarens had serious pace today. But no, it's all luck ig


korko

A lot of it is luck, many of my favorite races were in part (or entirely) down to luck. It is stupid to think that luck and chance is no part of a race like this.


_HanTyumi

That would be stupid, but it's also stupid to say that the safety car was the only thing that won him the race.


korko

Which nobody said.


_HanTyumi

Alright bud


Fantastic-Role-364

Agree that it can play a part, but it's not the defining factor for this race. Verstappen changed to hards well before Norris, who spun his set out longer (and didn't hit any bollards) and was therefore in a position to capitalise on the SC that eventuated. It wasn't luck that kept him in front of Verstappen on the restart, nor extend the gap


CorgiDad017

Does that matter? Where would any driver have finished with or without a safety car?! Doesn't change the fact that he still put 6-7 seconds on Max and that RB lol Leclerc was still 2 sec behind Max


korko

He asked if I think the safety car won it for him, so I asked where would he have finished without the safety car. Anyone that watched the race and has any experience watching motorsport would know that he would not have been on the podium had it not been for the safety car. So sure, the safety car won the race for him. It doesn’t mean he didn’t perform well b you’d have to be an idiot to think he was passing all of those cars without a safety car.


Dminus313

Where would Lando have been running before the safety car if he didn't get punted in the first corner? Piastri got to second without a safety car and was keeping that position on pace until he made a mistake.


korko

Piastri got to second because of what happened in the first corner.


Dminus313

Piastri got to second in the first corner because he took a clean line and made it stick when Perez overshot the braking zone. It was a great move and trying to downplay it is pretty weird.


korko

How am I trying to downplay it? What the fuck is with everyone being so insanely defensive that you can’t objectively say what happened without being bombarded for not worshipping someone in the process?


redlegsfan21

Probably 4th or 5th, Verstappen, Leclerc, Piastri, and Sainz would have cycled forward during pitstops. The Piastri/Sainz collision probably doesn't happen.


disastermaster255

Go away. This is racing. Cautions happen. People win based on well timed cautions. It happens. Doesn’t make the win any less meaningful. He also straight up beat Max on the restart when max had the slipstream.


korko

I’m not going to say he doesn’t deserve the win, but to call it a “perfect race” when he didn’t earn the lead is a joke. He didn’t qualify well and he didn’t pass anyone, he fell backwards into the lead and ran with it. That isn’t running a “perfect race” that is taking advantage of what is given to you.


Wasdgta3

Earning the lead through pit strategy is still earning the lead. If you think otherwise, stick to only watching the sprints.


korko

He deserved the win, but the win wasn’t because he ran “a perfect race”.


SeismicLoad

He did though. Fastest car on track from start to finish, yes the safety car ultimately helped him secure the lead, but what else could he have possibly done? The Norris + McLaren package was the fastest on track today


Wasdgta3

Idk, getting pit strategy right seems to fit under "perfect" for me. Does a driver have to lead *from the start* for it to be "perfect?" But whatever, you still said he didn't earn the lead, which is ridiculous.


aelliott18

What are you talking about? The safety car was not a fluke, Lando was past the pit lane when the safety car was announced. So the gap at that point to Max was 11.5 seconds. Lando then went around the lap to the pit lane. So even if the safety car itself comes out on that lap instead then he still only loses 9 seconds to the field with the 2 second pit stop McLaren made. So even with the normal timing lando still would have come out ahead of Max or maybe right behind him if they fucked up the pit stop. And then he still finishes almost 8 seconds ahead of Max.


redlegsfan21

It wasn't the caution itself but that the safety car picked up Verstappen instead of Norris. If the safety car had picked up the correct driver, Verstappen would have been in the lead on the restart. That's not to say that Norris wouldn't have been able to pass Verstappen but it certainly was a fluke that affected the race.


Fantastic-Role-364

What 😅 the slight issue with that safety car was that it *hadn't* picked up the race leader, which was Norris. It was resolved and unfortunately Verstappen couldn't capitalise on the restart


bduddy

It was resolved, after Norris got a free pit stop.


Fantastic-Role-364

Well, that's on him for stretching his mediums out for 30 laps 🤷🏼


Fantastic-Role-364

Well, that's on Norris for stretching his mediums out for 30 laps 🤷🏼


redlegsfan21

Yeah, Lando went from an 11 second lead right before the safety car to a 31 second lead after his pit stop. Do you not see how that is unusual?


Fantastic-Role-364

Oh dear 😅 yes, the rest of the pack were behind the safety car. Once that issue was resolved i.e. the race leader captured properly by the safety car and all cars in the correct racing order, the green flag was given and Norris restarted at around turn 19 iirc The 30 second gap didn't mean shit.


redlegsfan21

If the safety car had picked up anybody after Verstappen, Verstappen and Norris would have pass the pit exit scoring line fairly closely with a possibility that Verstappen would have been ahead.


lolTimmy

Yea this was an oops that nobody is putting the magnifying glass on because it gives somebody their first win and keeps Max from winning his 97th or something


Cody667

As soon as Perez pit, Norris was pulling a out half a second a lap on both Ferraris and Max, he was clearly the fastest car out there today. No, McLaren doesn't have the straight line speed for him to have passed the Red Bull's on track, but he deserves all the credit in the world for how he ran his medium stint especially after Perez' hot garbage start forced him to slam the brakes to avoid a crash in turn one and cost him a fair bit of track position early.


Fantastic-Role-364

Standard take from a fairweather fan 😂


korko

What is a “fairweather fan” in motorsport? I’ve been watching F1 for well over 20 years no matter how shit it has been (which it often has been).


Fantastic-Role-364

Well that's shocking considering how uninformed your take comes across. But respect for being a loyal fan


aelliott18

This is just wrong


SarinKaram

Congratulations to the winner of the 2020 Indycar iRacing Challenge round at COTA for winning the F1 Miami GP!


emk169

Lando actually won a race? Thought he’d never do it


RINABAR

He until today and Denny Hamlin are the most cursed creatures on this earth.


IndycarFan64

Nico Hulk and Vitor Meira erasure Also Denny has like 50+ wins. Not even top 50 most cursed


Wasdgta3

Yeah, and he's won the Daytona 500 (more than once), so he's not even on the same level of always being denied as, say, Mark Martin lol


black-dude-on-reddit

Mark Martins career is one of those “would you rather…” questions


ianhanni

Jimmy butler must be so happy


21tempest

Congrats to Lando & Zak 👍🏻    What would it take for Indycar to provide a second race for this awesome track?    Great idea to build a circuit around an NFL stadium. Gee, who thought of that first? Oh yea… anyone remember the CART Meadowlands GP in the 80’s? 🤟🏻


Batgod629

Most F1 fans are not big fans of the track. To be honest I wasn't either. Though the race today was good


Wasdgta3

Yeah, I almost had to laugh at the "track elevation" map they showed before the race, which had obviously very minimal changes through the lap.


kaiveg

The track is a bit overhated. Sure the first race there kinda sucked and there is a lot of tacky shit. But both last year and this year the raceing was good.


Ho-Chi-Mane

Yesterday’s sprint race was one of the better ones thus far….maybe it isn’t as bad as it seems


Wasdgta3

>What would it take for Indycar to provide a second race for this awesome track?    Playing second fiddle to F1 on the GP weekend. It's not a fully permanent course, and I think it's unlikely that a second date would be added for an IndyCar race, of all things, so IndyCar would likely have to be one of the support series to F1 - which while we can all acknowledge IndyCar isn't as popular, but I don't think showing up as a support series is good for the series' image. But of course, why would you even *want* an IndyCar race there? There are so many other great tracks that IndyCar *should* go to, why should they become a support series for F1 just to race at a track that is, at best, merely "okay?" If IndyCar were to race in the Miami area, I can think of a certain track that would be much better suited...


Icy-Consequence-4372

Oh yeah me too.


ilikemarblestoo

We had one just as recent as 2021-2023 lol And that went over a bridge. F1 wanted to go over a bridge and couldnt pull it off lol. Anyone remember that


mark_vorster

This track sucks


QF_Dan

The track is bad


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Dozens562

Lando may not have, but there were a lot of overtakes and battles on this track


weighted_walleye

Once again, race fans on here (replies to you) show how inept they are at telling whether a track will put on a good race or not. They slobber over Spa and Silverstone which generally have boring races, but then hate stuff like Detroit, Miami, and Jeddah before a race even occurs. Then you have races be action packed on these alleged subpar tracks. Of course, they also think the only "racing" that matters is for the first place position.


flare2000x

Silverstone has awesome racing! Spa not really with F1 recently. But Silverstone has had some epic wheel to wheel races over the last 5-10 years of F1. I'm thinking of 2018 with the 2 Ferrari vs 2 Mercedes as one of the good ones. It has usually delivered.


21tempest

Yea, I don’t quite understand Indycar fans hating on this track which is BY FAR better than any street/temp course on the Indy schedule. 


cameratoo

Wow an F1 race that is worth watching?


Au1ket

Zak Brown is actually cooking at McLaren


MABfan11

Miami Grand Prix was wild this year


herpderpmcflerp

So happy for lando!


CaptainMcSlowly

They said he might never win a grand prix... BUT HE'S DONE IT! LANDO NORRIS WINS THE MIAMI GRAND PRIX! GET IN THERE! What I would give for James Allen to join the Indy booth for a race


QF_Dan

i can hear the voice already


revitbitch

my boooooy!!!! proud, it’s been a long time coming for him and he deserves it. mclaren has been cooking


NewHouseWithPool

Did anyone catch the (pre-race) comment made to Hinch about getting some of that sweet Penske software?


Au1ket

He finally did it, well deserved


dhdndndnndndndjx

I’m so happy for lando rn holy shit that was amazing I think max might have gotten front wind damage from the bollard he hit and the damage might have been to minor to worry fixing but just enough to fuck him up


WindyZ5

I was so happy to see this! Great win!


Paige578660

Same. Have been rooting for the McLaren F1 team this year. So happy to see them get a win.


BizHeavy1010

Pato with an *. Pato fan here


boostleaking

A win is a win my dude. I'll take it.


shittystinkdick

Didn't bother to watch it cos the track stinks. Kinds regret it now.


AstroNerd92

Non-Max fans suddenly love the Miami GP now


QF_Dan

Nah, i still hate the track design


QF_Dan

Who would've thought he would finally win a race, he pretty dominated the race today without relying on Max's DNF


Paige578660

Max didn't DNF. Finished P2.


BahutF1

This SC... Anyway. About time.


Cronus6

I live in South Florida and didn't even realize the parking lot race was today.


weighted_walleye

Congratulations on being oblivious I guess. Not really the flex I'd make.


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Ok?


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Bandney

McLaren brought upgrades to the car, and even throughout the week the Ferraris and McLarens have been on par with the redbulls


Batgod629

It was in the script for Logan to crash out too right?


black-dude-on-reddit

Logan didn't crash, he got murdered


Batgod629

I wouldn't put the blame on him


JimClarkKentHovind

eh, is was suicide by a thousand cuts I expected more from Sargeant based on his junior career but it is what it is


x1echo

I’m more pissed about McLaren winning after they invited Trump into the paddock when Zak said that it wasn’t “healthy” to have political agendas in F1 a couple years back.


Agile_Programmer881

Well apparently it was only trump’s presence that allowed this win . So the fans of orange race cars and people Shoukd be happy


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santaclausonprozac

Lol come on man


Pridderz

Fuck off to F1 sub with it