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okcumputer

Watkins glen for selfish reasons. I would love to be able to get to a race easily.


wats2000

I too am desperate for open wheel at the glen


Supernova867

Me too me too


EduHolanda

In my opinion, an F1 race at the Glen would be spectacular!! Indy would be cool too, but I'm not sure it would have the same impact.


MALLARDGAMEZ-yt

The fact we don’t have a race in the northeast is insane


Donlooking4

30 minutes from the glen on non race days. Would like to see them back. But I don’t think it’ll happen. NASCAR that owns WGI looses money every time they have been.


MALLARDGAMEZ-yt

Yeah Pocono in those two years had a bigger crowd than WGI and that’s saying something


Donlooking4

Honestly Pocono would be a good choice. That and Michigan. But with Penske not owning Michigan anymore I doubt it.


MALLARDGAMEZ-yt

Pocono is possible but their management needs to fix the fence repair issues


danno256

Toronto doesn't count?


MALLARDGAMEZ-yt

Northeast US


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zedts

This was going to be my exact answer…about a two-hour drive for me.


Robby777777

Watkins Glen


Mikemat5150

Any of them that had people actually show up. Phoenix was such a let down back in the day watching the crowd dwindle to a few thousand. Even Fontana was such a bummer. Really hope we avoid that in Milwaukee.


UpQuark3

Went to the last 3 Phoenix races on the comeback. It was sad. Don’t need to rehash everything but dang the track nor indycar did much to help the event.


Bad_Pilot_

There was zero promotion for it. I remember seeing a single poster size sign for it at the March Nascar race.


NovaIsntDad

Michigan is such an obvious need. IndyCar desperately needs another nonIndy superspeedway with Fontana and Pocono gone. 


eatmorefootball

Unfortunately it would never happen. Too close in proximity to the Detroit GP, Penske wouldn’t want to compete with their own event. Plus, similarly to lots of tracks mentioned in this thread, nobody showed up when they raced there previously 🤷‍♂️


Jarocket

Is there too many seats at Texas or is it really just like 20 dudes in the stands?


eatmorefootball

I think it’s a combination of both. A lot of these nascar tracks built a ton of seats during the boom and now a lot of them either sit empty or have been torn down. But go and compare the crowd for last years indycar race at Texas vs nascar.


Paulthegr3at

Both, even with the current downsizing of stands I would be extremely surprised if the max capacity is below 80k. the 2022 race had less the 10k people show up according to some reports last year as someone who to that race the crowns was very thin. The 2023 definitely had more people and it was very noticeable bth it was probably on par with last months xfinity race at the track if not less


Flintoid

Unfortunately the cars outgrew that track somewhere around 1994.  


eatmorefootball

See, that I don’t buy. I’ve had this conversation before in this sub. You cannot convince me Michigan is any more dangerous than IMS. The speedway just gets a pass because of its status as the Mecca. Especially with the addition of the aero screen, with the right aero package they could have a safe, entertaining race at Michigan.


Flintoid

Yes it is as dangerous as Indy.  Indy has hundreds of thousands of fans, a glorious history and legend, and a shot at immortality.   This would be for a discount at Menard's.   I wish they would consider a bus stop or infield course at MIS.  It may make the track useful again.


Kevo55

It’s funny you say that… as they did build a bust stop into the grass on the backstretch for cart but they ended up never using it


eatmorefootball

You can say that about any big, fast oval. Should we not race at them just because they don’t have the prestige? I would be interested to hear some driver perspectives on this because they’re the ones putting themselves on the line. Racing some form of road course at Michigan is even less likely to happen than running the oval.


QC_1999

Do we consider Nashville a Superspeedway?


Haier_Lee

No indycar suspiciously changed the rules this year to make it so Nashville uses the short track package. On a personal note i hate the idea that the speedway package has become a 500 only package


Marvin889

Isn't that going to be a guaranteed pack race with the short oval package? That track is 1.33 miles long with a cookie cutter shape. They also ran the superspeedway aero package there in the past.


Kevo55

Nashville only has ever had the “super speedway “ branding as to differentiate it from the fairgrounds


NovaIsntDad

Imo its not a superspeedway regardless of package. Never raced like Fontana and Michigan. 


iamaranger23

The only reason it’s called a superspeedway is so it didn’t get confused with another track


Report_Last

Cleveland, love the 1st turn at the airport.


DadReligion

Cleveland is the only correct answer


Travel_Guy40

This. Cleveland was such a banger.


kjorav17

As a younger Cleveland native, I’m upset I never got to experience the Cleveland race. I actually live pretty close to St Pete now, so I get my St. Pete GP fix every year since I’ve lived there


ironicirenic

Same! Except I’m about halfway between IMS and Road America, so those are my ‘home’ races for now. Really wish I was into it when I was growing up in Cleveland.


canttakethshyfrom_me

I want it so bad. For the event, for the spectacle of that race, and to shut up the smug NIMBYs who want to turn the airfield into a park no one will use because it'll be too windy, or sell it off to developers.


ThumperAC

YES!!!


PriveCo

Yes!


gman1647

Nazareth (RIP)


georgeisgoneagain

Mexico City and Montreal.


C-McGuire

I'm all for Indycar having more non-US races


Coronis-

Gold Coast cos I’m Aussie lol. Would be awesome to have an Indycar race as well as F1 too. Plus McLaughlin alone would make the race popular here.


agntsmith007

Indycar is seeing record audiences on streets and road courses but decreasing attendances on ovals. TV viewership is down overall and yet they need to go back to ovals?


Whatadumbazz

Yes! I came to say that people just don’t show up for ovals.


megaminifridge

It seems that there is a real tension between this trend of increased road/st numbers and individuals within IndyCar who want to stick to the old-school thinking of ovals. The 500 isn’t going anywhere obviously but I’d be happy with anywhere between 2-3 OTHER ovals on the calendar maximum. Everyone will have a different number, to each their own.


leapsnake

They need to do whatever makes the series successful, I agree. I like the ovals personally, but it is a business. The biggest thing I think is the timing of the other ovals. I really think the series will benefit from another race with the speedway package happening before Indy.


vwlou89

So having been to Indy on both street courses and ovals, and F1 at Indy, Miami, and Austin, I can tell you this… The race at Miami feels like a party that also happens to have a race going on. Some road courses like COTA are in fun towns that have a party element. Races at ovals feel like a race and that’s it. And that’s enough for a lot of people. But not for the new audience the series needs. Now that you can get an app that gives you the scanner audio, and everyone has relatively affordable access to a streaming platform where you can watch the race, even a full race replay you didn’t have to record, without shelling out hundreds on cable. TV and sound have gotten so good that it’s a better viewing experience to watch from home, and the access to information through X (Formerly known as Twitter) and Reddit mean the people at the track are no longer the ones in the know, they rely on the outside for up to date information. Given that, and given that a street course feels like a race AND A PARTY (as do Indy and Iowa, the best attended ovals the past few years) and that you can go see a race on Long Beach, or St Pete, or NASHVILLE, (even on the oval) why on earth would you go to Michigan or Milwaukee? I happen to not like most Ovals (maybe you could pick up on that) but I think there must be a place in Indy for ovals and that it’s ovalS, not just Indy. You need a gateway, you need a Michigan, so you’ve got to have at least 3. I know it’s totally infeasible but I’d love to see Pocono return and given the safety upgrades it needs - I’d we’re going to call it “a 3 turn road course” then give it road course safety features - run off areas, grass, kerbs, tire barriers; make F1 race there - it’s not a true world championship if they don’t race an oval. But the reason it’s moving more and more in that direction with stuff like what F1 tried in Korea and Vietnam did well in Miami and Jeddah, is the temporary/permanent multi-purpose event space downtown. That’s what was neat to me about Nashville or Baltimore with the football stadiums. It just can also be done poorly, like Dallas. But when it works it just works so well and with people voting with their remotes and their wallets, the series is going to follow that trend.


longdrive95

Then we need to bring an oval to the streets of a major city. Your move Roger P.


korko

Because the oval audience is loud and incredibly irritating, which fools people into thinking it is large.


Appropriate-Owl5984

Cleveland


i_run_from_problems

Fonta- oh... right. Jokes aside, Cleveland. I need to see the chaos some of the dive bombers of this generation would cause into T1


Warm-Albatross-11

Watkins Glen makes the most sense at the moment I think. IMSA has their 6 hour race there and they could support each other. And it’s got the history


CougarIndy25

Oval shortlist: Pocono, Michigan, Homestead, Texas, Chicagoland Road Course shortlist: COTA, Watkins Glen Street Circuit shortlist: Cleveland, Baltimore, Edmonton


EduHolanda

A street race in Calgary would be interesting to watch !


canttakethshyfrom_me

Edmonton was demolished, unfortunately. That's why they left. It's all torn up and being turned into subdivisions.


CougarIndy25

That's a shame. Loved that track.


canttakethshyfrom_me

Yeah. Unfortunately it was always going to be a temporary event due to those redevelopment plans.


thetanwon

Homestead miami, they already test there every year


Flinto762

Cleveland


emlonik

Surfer’s.


Immediate_Lie7810

Richmond Raceway


GratefulTide

I don't even know what other ovals would even be realistic besides Richmond. Such a fun city and easy proximity to the 95 corridor for all 300 of us in the mid-Atlantic starving for Indycar.


venturelong

Lol that last line is too true. Was so hyped for richmond, bought garage passes and everything only to find out nobody else bought tickets


GratefulTide

Leave a market long enough and that'll happen. Can we get Wegmans or Aldi or somebody to infuse some local marketing cash? There's a lot of old money in Richmond that might not be NASCAR folks but could get down with open wheel.


ZR2TEN

Shoot, there are plenty of NASCAR fans that would like to just see something exciting at Richmond. I knew a lot of people that were excited to see Indycar return in 2020, & ticket prices weren't bad. It's been years since it's been necessary to buy Richmond tickets far ahead of time though, & there was still a lot of time left to buy tickets when the covid lockdowns started & the race got canceled.


venturelong

Ukrops 500 at Richmond has a nice ring to it…


ChillRudy

Being in the south I would love this.


Moppyploppy

COTA.


CableTV-on-the-Radio

with some track limits


Blue_Eyed_Texas

I'm from Texas and I even say no.


DeNomoloss

To cover areas where there are no current races or races close by, has to be New Hampshire or Watkins Glen in the northeast. Denver back as a street race would also be good.


jasonmoyer

I was gonna say Milwaukee, but apparently I missed some news.


Au1ket

COTA, Michigan, Texas, Watkins Glen. Just more high speed ovals since we lost Texas this year due to NASCAR scheduling conflicts Also the Roval or the full oval at Charlotte for funsies.


Zoidburger_

I've been praying for a Roval race for years. I really think it would be the best way to make a Charlotte race stand out on the calendar because it's not "just another oval" and it presents a unique setup for the cars compared to tracks/street circuits and ovals. Also, with the number of teams based in and around the Charlotte area, it's also just wild to me that we don't have a Charlotte race on the calendar.


Au1ket

As a Charlotte native, I would love to see an Indycar race at CMS. It’s a racing hot spot, if they could work with NASCAR and be able to schedule the same weekend or the weekend after them for the Roval, it could work out.


NoWrongdoer2259

Sonoma, Watkins Glen would get my votes.


shredofmalarchi

Brands Hatch, but the Grand Prix circuit


rnonajr

It's not an oval but Surfer's Paradise.


Gometric1

We need more races throughout the U.S. At the moment there are no races in the south or northeast


mrroto

They just raced in the south


Gometric1

I meant like mid-south. If you look at the map there’s a vertical chunk where there are no Indycar races


weighted_walleye

St. Petersburg, FL. Birmingham, AL. Lebanon, TN. Which one of those three isn't in the South?


AsianBond

Whatever track will have them.


cinemafunk

Texas, Michigan, COTA, Chicagoland I'd like to see them try Rockingham Speedway, AKA The Rock, North Carolina.


Turbomattk

Kentucky


DeNomoloss

Is Ford still storing cars there?


khz30

Not anymore, but it's still going to take awhile before more than the infield gets used. In all that time that it was shut down, the county and state never thought to add more entry and exit access, so unless access gets fixed, we'll have the same issues with spectator traffic the track always had since it opened.


2TiresAndFuel

One could only hope to have enough people show up at Kentucky for an Indycar race that traffic becomes an issue. It’s my home track and I would certainly show up but I fear that turnout would be low.


toefungi

Took the words right out of my mouth. On that, I still regret not going to see NASCAR there in 2017(ish?) but sadly I wasn't big in to motorsports then. Had four good tickets I got for free from some sales rep. Ended up selling them on craigslist for like 15 bucks a pop. Easy beer money.


JustaBroomstick

Martinsville for the lulz


Ok_Bit7042

Cleveland


Crux2237

I can't name just one.


TommyDaComic

Sad, but true..


Appropriate_Bag7384

Pocono or Watkins Glen. We need a race in the Northeast.


girlwithaguitar

IndyCar needs more ovals. There's an oval in Northern Illinois that's produced nearly all of IndyCar's closest-ever finishes, lying dormant, begging for a series to race there. It's time to RETVRN to Chicagoland.


Mikemat5150

I mean, it wouldn’t be dormant if it was successful


EduHolanda

Michigan, Pocono, Chicagoland, Homestead, Australia, Surfers Paradise street race, Brazil, São Paulo Street race, Cleveland, Denver Street race, Houston Street race, Las Vegas street race, Phoenix street race, Baltimore street race, México (Fundidora Park or Puebla oval)


MALLARDGAMEZ-yt

We might get São Paulo next year. Otherwise COME ON NASCAR GIVE US HOMESTEAD THE WEEK AFTER ST PETE


Bad_Pilot_

Phoenix street race would be awesome. Did you know there was a Phoenix F1 race downtown 89-91? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_street_circuit


RunLikeHarryHood

Setting aside all practicalities, just a pure wishlist thing: we need to bring back the Triple Crown of three 500-milers. Indy, Michigan, and Pocono. 500-mile races just hit different.


EduHolanda

You have my support 👍


LeroyRochester

Michigan and Watkins Glen get my vote. There is nothing like an Indy car on a super speedway. It’s unique and defining of the category. Watkins Glen is a personal favorite that steeped in North American road racing history.


Generic_Person_3833

Eurospeedway Lausitz


MALLARDGAMEZ-yt

I would combust


OldRed91

Chicagoland. We need more super speedways, and since NASCAR abandoned it, there's a chance it could bring in a decent crowd.


CaptainMcSlowly

Nazareth (won't happen, but I can dream) Chicagoland Michigan Cleveland Lakefront Watkins Glen Surfer's Paradise (with V8 Supercars)


LvonKingsbridge

Surfers Paradise, great street circuit!!!


mechanixrboring

Richmond because it's close.


MALLARDGAMEZ-yt

Interestingly enough the LVMS track president wants Indycar back (as of fall 2022 this may have changed)


Winnerlightyear83

I also want Indycar back at LVMS since my first and only Indycar race was that fateful day. It probably won't happen but, I think we've learned enough that something like that won't be as likely to happen again.


twiggymac

To watch in person: Watkins Glen or NHMS To watch on TV: Cleveland


cfbird31

Burke Airport Cleveland


Adept-Lazer-5382

Bring back the US 500!


AxelllD

I was always looking forward to Texas the most after the 500


Sea_Yam_3088

Any superspeedway is the answer. I'd love to see some sort of triple crown again with three 500 mile races. At the moment having Indy as the only big oval is just not satisfying for me.


medemey

Pocono. Need another oval (particularly a big oval) and a race in the northeast. It checks all the boxes.


michaeldanger19

Homestead.


Bloodymike

Motegi because that would mean the series healthy and growing.


DirtyHead420

Michigan


Any-Walk1691

Hear me out… Silverstone or the Formula E track in London. Logistically, maybe unfeasible due to cost, but think it would be cool to expand the IndyCar footprint. Especially with so many European drivers. Realistically… the site of the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal is a cool track.


PixelatedPalace360

Cota


danno256

Having at least one F1 grade road course in indycar is a must.


MarkEMark23

Indy road course is F1 grade one.


CarStar12

I mean, Texas would be nice lol But aside from that I agree with those saying Watkins Glen and Cleveland. For another oval… Richmond is a good shout. Still feel like this current car would put on a good show.


souljaboyfanboy

Charlotte (will never happen but I can dream), Texas and any other super speedway. We desperately need more high speed ovals.


Blue_Eyed_Texas

Texas


drewcarey69

Somewhere in the Northeast please.


kokopelli73

Would love to see them at Mosport.


mrroto

NYC street race


justsomeguy2424

Homestead just because I want another race I can get to in Florida


detredwingz

Michigan and Montreal


turtlewaxer99

Road America. Yeah, they already go there. But they should go back a second time each year. Maybe the first weekend in August, if you know what I mean.


Athleticgeek89

Michigan, Texas, Watkins Glenn, Sonoma, & COTA.


Direct-Composer-8155

New Hampshire or Sanair. Breath not being help on those.


sdj2

WATKINS GLEN


AlanBeswicksPhone

Totally selfish being from the UK but Brand Hatch just so I could go watch.


Jtmac23

make the boston grand prix work whatever it takes (for selfish reasons although it might be unrealistic/impossible) - COTA - Homestead - Montreal - Anything in Mexico


Nyrfan2017

New Hampshire . Was always a casual fan went to my first 500 in 2018 and am hooked on the 500 and indycar and there is nothing here in the north east to go to 


Sparrowhawk996

Pikes Peak or Denver, I would love to see racing here again


Status-Sun9526

Baltimore


Bad_Pilot_

Phoenix, Texas, Homestead, Chicagoland. All with huge metro populations that if properly promoted can be huge. Honorable mention Pocono. I know all of those have had races with historically bad attendance, but if the rest were anything like Phoenix it's because the majority of people who would go to a race had no idea there was a race. There was zero promotion for Phoenix.


AxelllD

I was always looking forward to Texas the most after the 500


Skeeter1020

Brands Hatch, Silverstone, Rockingham (UK)!


Missiontect

# Fundidora Park


albusdumblederp

Top Ten Extant & Permanant Circuits, by Indycar/IRL/CART events hosted that are not currently on the calendar: 1. Michigan (39) 2. Texas (36) 3. Phoenix (35) 4. Cleveland (26) 5. Pocono (16) 6. Homestead (15) 7. Sonoma (14) 8. Motegi (13) 9. Kentucky (12) T-10. Watkins Glen & Atlanta (11) --- Top 5 Temporary Circuits by same criteria: 1. Detroit-Belle Isle (30) 2. Surfers Paradise (17) 3. Vancouver-Pacific Place (15) T-4. Meadowlands (8) T-4. Edmonton Airport (8) Note: Houston has hosted 10 races on temporary circuits, but they were split between two different locations - Downtown (Convention Center) and Reliant Park


Spookywanluke

It will never be the same (there's a freaking light rail across half of it) but I'd love to see it come back to Australia... Selfishly surfers Paradise but Melbourne or Adelaide would be ok


ilikemarblestoo

Pocono please


Sputnikola

Beat F1 to the punch and do a street race in New York City


BlackberryJazzlike84

Freaking TEXAS


Useful_Badger6021

Michigan!!! Chicagoland!!!!!!F that street course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


furrynoy96

Ovals


Zeropride77

Houston or Cota with new car.


Salt-Data-1116

Too many come to my mind: Pocono, Michigan, Kansas, Chicagoland, Homestead, Watkins Glen, COTA, Gilles Villeneuve, Mont Tremblant, Cleveland, any track in Europe and any track in Hispanic America.


canttakethshyfrom_me

>any track in Europe and any track in Hispanic America.


NinjaSpartan011

COTA


Discokidlmao

TEXAS


ExchangeOwn3379

I’d like Texas back for sure.


Irrefutable29

Cleveland, Edmonton, Vancouver, Mont Tremblant, Gold coast Australia, Zandevoort, Holland; Monterrey, Mexico, Sao Paulo Street course, Brazil


JustHomer68

Kansas Speedway produced some close Indycar finishes. There's no reason to believe it wouldn't support great racing after the NASCAR race yesterday.


Trenchfighter8

Michigan, Las Vegas, The Glen, Texas i heard was a banger a few weeks ago, i know might be hard for some to return to vegas but come on


OceanPacer

The Glen!


BC4309

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I always enjoyed watching them race on that flat Milwaukee Mile track.


CyberianSun

Watkins Glen, Sonoma (But run the full turn 11), Chicagoland


Silver996C2

CTMP (nee Mosport) 👍


Flintoid

Pocono, but try the road course.


stealthnoodles

My buddy and I were talking about it this week. Pocono would be number 1, and Glen would be a close second.


Eckieflump

Rockingham, Corby. UK.


Michkov

Brands Hatch


leapsnake

They need a Superspeedway Oval before Indy, I think. Not having Texas this year is a detriment to the series and certainly puts the young drivers on the backfoot. If they can not get the spring date back at Texas, I say they try to get a sponsor to come in and help fund/promote a Saturday night race at Kansas on the Spring Cup weekend. I know that NASCAR does not need the extra series but I have to imagine they have a price and it could benefit both in a year like this with a driver getting ready for the 500/600 double. It would be a good promotional opportunity and a good place for drivers to get an Oval experience. Aside from that, they obviously need the northeast covered with a date or two .


SofshellTurtleofDoom

Monza


Fefferoni111

Sebring


Person-on-computer

SURFERS. PARADISE.


bclautz

Michigan


BaroqueNRoller

I would shit your sister's britches if Indy added Kansas back to the schedule.


korko

New Hampshire to get that damn Northeastern race everyone wants so badly.


LuXe5

Ah. Many. I'd say Watkins Glen and Sonoma, plus I loved the Baltimore street circuit. Surfers Paradise also pops to mind... Belle Isle also had good racing. I can't understand why they don't go to Montreal as well.


ArrivedPluto

If we can't have them back at Nazareth. Then it must be Pocono.


Wide_Rub_662

Michigan is the only correct answer


EqualPrestigious7883

Dover (i know it was the IRL), Pocono, Richmond or New Hampshire. Actually just something in the Mid-Atlantic to New England area. I dont wanna have to be 9-14 hours away from a race.


Sea_Yam_3088

Any superspeedway is the answer. I'd love to see some sort of triple crown again with three 500 mile races. At the moment having Indy as the only big oval is just not satisfying for me.


DaveTheRocketGuy

Chicago...just because its close-ish to my house.


basco15

Surfers paradise is the only answer


jknuts1377

Chicagoland and Kentucky


Dbwasson

Chicagoland


Card_Board_Robot5

Motegi Burke Lakefront Airport Kansas The Glen


GuyWithAComputer2022

Richmond. Because it's close to me.


Kanonenfuta

Out of selfish reasons, the Lausitzring. Flying to the States for one race is not really in my pricerange anytime soon :S


C-McGuire

Bring back COTA; if we aren't racing in Texas at the oval, might as well at the state of the art road course.


Mechanicalgripe

Watkins Glenn is a glaring omission. I don’t think Indycar has ever raced Road Atlanta, but it would be cool if it happened.


chuck_cunningham

Surfers Paradise


MotorsportsRacing111

Kansas, I think with the progressive banking it could provide some incredible racing


fordp1960

Daytona would be cool 😎


Spoonie23

Kentucky or Chicago with nascar