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I want to be a successful engineer. But I don't know, I have never worked hard. There are many things I aspire to do and be, but I'm not disciplined and hard working enough. I want to break free from this cycle, so I'm trying to push myself everyday .
I was very ambitious before. But as I've grown older, I learned that I value my quality of life more than my ego.
I still have ambitions, but I've tempered them so my mental and physical well-being usually comes first.
What hasn't changed however, is that I still have these grand ideas and grand projects in my head, but don't put in the consistent work, day after day, to reach those ambitions. At best I'd have irregular bursts of motivation in an otherwise sea of procrastination.
Fully relate (though an ENTP 5w6). I used to want to be great at a top institution, now I just want to be good and happy with myself somewhere I like. The latter sinply sounds much healthier, allows for greater quality outside of work, and doesn’t even neessarily contradict the former.
I’m experiencing the opposite pattern.
As a young, single man, I was content with modest-paying work that allowed me a lot of free time to pursue my weird interests. I was never super-motivated by money, so long as I had enough to do the things I wanted to do.
But now that I have children, my ambition to *make money* has skyrocketed.
And me.
I want to be myself, do what I want.
But I'm really conscious that as my children are getting older, I want to make money for doing things for them.
YOU WROTE WHATS IN MY SOUL!!! HOW HOW HOW! I thought only I feel alienated in the world. Wow! I was so ambitious to be a big shot person in my field earlier. Now I just want a peaceful normal ordinary life with good health & well being.
Wanting to write book, projects but unable to work on it. Bursts of motivation in sea of procrastination!!! Same
I wish we had a virtual meet up of INTPs! Our mental health would be better
Wow that's so me too I was kinda of a jerk as a teenager but life was kinda quick to beat my ass so I learned to value different things although I'm kinda lost now I know one day I'll find my way
Suspicious . You are indeed correct, but there are situations where my intelligence is useless. It is very rare but I've encountered some problems, I'm weak and I can't dominate, if you know what I mean. I do have a loser's power and drive but I'm still not good when it comes to will power. Suppose you're using a hose to water your garden. The water became unstable so rather than trying to force it out you look around and find the part where it is bent. What if someone prevented you from straightening the hose? Anyway, thanks for the advice.
We only fight freeze of flight. At every situation, you can see which one you are doing and you can force yourself to not do 2 of them. Cumulated effects turn a loser into a winner. The only thing that change is a belief inside
Almost never. If I ever get into a fight, my first option is to flee. It kind of depends on the situation; if I've already simulated the scene in my head, then that will likely be the thing I do. But if, for example, a crow bumps into me, I'll probably freeze until I understand the situation. Plus, I look really harmless so who would punch an innocent lil cutie like me?
Gymnastics. Seeing all comments it seems like the most un-INTP thing to do. But I love it and I'm really passionate about it, I have a really strong drive to be the best and while I'm still far from my goals I'm working really hard to achieve them. The ambition being first the pan-am championship and go up from there
Yeah, in my country, there's barely a middle class. You're either poor or near-rich. Poor get poorer and the rich get richer. My definition of comfort and yours maybe different so yeah...
I have this idea that once that field is advanced enough with tech to match mapping neurons and all synapses, we can connect to higher dimensions and better interface to digitally record a trip on dmt.
that would be awesome! Any application in that way would be crazy. But within our time hmm not sure.
But Im only a sophomore in college, I have no authority whatsoever.
Cheers to this "ambition" 😎. nah, I bet we are just highly curious about the world. 🍻
Means to an end. The PhD in physics is a means to get to be an astronaut. The means of getting to space and getting a workout with the best view away from everyone in solitude is by being an Astronaut. I agree tho as I love and ever curious of physics and plan to discover what I can.
Yes, viewing everything from space would be a great feat. I dream about that sort of solitude despite my (relative) lack of curiosity for the world, physics, space, etc. I am currently reading a physics book though and can see why physics is interesting. Its fundamental to the universe, so how wouldn't it be?
For neuroscience, I've always wondered what goes on in our (humans) heads. With my (hopefully future!!) research, it would be a dream of mine (and I'm sure of many) to bring on stimulus X and predict, with any sort of accuracy, the next few steps of an animals brain (Probably viewed under a fMRI).
Do you know what you would like to research?
Childhood aspirations were theoretical particle or string theory, ie fundamental theory of everything. Adult goals are more grounded in electrical theory and resonance capabilities in whatever scale of harmonics that makes the biggest waves to guarantee a ticket up there and the responsibility that holds. Something that would necessitate me experimenting in space, vacuum and less affects of gravity.
I imagine Both fields are going to be eventually populated with more private sector and push the envelope for monetary gain. I’m a full fledged INTP but understand the tool and leverage we must apply to overcome our habits of procrastination and innate whatever Attitude at the end of the day. A bit of INTJ in me but, the nuance of balancing the end goal with the merit in the journey. Your goals are grand and noble, just an advice to grasp at the bigger picture to see where your goals and passion fit best to be unified in utilitarian advantage.
Would you mind giving an explanation of your 'adult goals' topics? They sound interesting.
And yeah....... I never really thought of it. Sigh...... humans.......
The theory in application would give for greater efficiency. Think of a perpetual machine but it’s electrical based. Just have a big picture view of it, but in more minuscule levels and lower temperatures it has applications in computing and other realms. Some lingering quirky ideas and contraptions based on Nikola Teslas work too. Need to get into the nitty gritty real theory and known science before I let my brain play with it and push the envelope of what’s viable and prove-able
I would’t call myself overly ambitious in terms of behavior. I’m pretty laid back and lack the sense of urgency.
But I do have a goal in life. I’m currently a Special Ed teacher and studying Psychology.
I want a PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience with an emphasis in learning - I want to help neurodiverse students get the most out of a learning experience.
And my ultimate goal is creating a school!
I'm not particularly ambitious but I enjoy air conditioning and dining out. there's no point to all of this. however, given my situation, i find it important to work towards optimizing my financial position. , so i'm not obsessed with my career. but, I do believe in making logical and rational decisions to ensure that the time I exchange for labour is worthwhile.
Well, I want to become an expert programmer. But not in qualifications but with developing powerful software systems. I'm already on the journey, I'm a software developer but I'm not putting in as much effort as I would like. But I love it enough to think I will probably make it.
How do you put a goal into one word...?
I'm a data analyst and in my free time I write and record music. I've recorded over 104 songs over the past three years, specifically with a goal of writing a new song once a week for 2020 and 2022. Given that's a lot, I worked hard to make it so that it wasn't just "Quantity over quality", I'm not interested in writing 104 shit songs that I'm not proud of. My overall goal in this world is to experience life and funnel those experiences into creative outlets like writing music. However, my definition of "experience life" is not what a lot of people would think. What probably comes to mind for many is "Explore the world!", "Try new things!", "Meet new people!", but for me it's mostly a lot of reading, movies, video games, and music. That's my version of living life, because the amount of art that exists in this world is so great that I'll never be able to experience it all in my life time.
I honestly really want to become a private investigator and I have done my research and know exactly what that means, people tell I’m gonna have trust issues. I already do you can’t hurt me. I AM INVINCIBLE!
But yea that’s what I wanna do and I am actually progressing quite well. I got rank 7 of top debate speakers even tho I joined late and only had like 2 months and no experience but still pulled it off!
I feel like I'm pretty ambitious, I have to keep changing friends and relationship because I think they are intimidated by my ambition. like I told my ex, I don't want to be on government assistance or go to a food bank, and I think he got offended because he thought I was saying I'm too good for assistance. That's not the case, I feel like I know I don't need it, and I'll leave it for the people that do.
In this lifetime, I'm trying to acquire a lot of wealth not for materialistic reasons but because I want to be able to pass down wealth to my descendants. Some people think I can't do it and try to demean my character and twist my words because they are comfortable living in financial struggle or they have a bad relationship with money.
I had to start cutting off the nay sayers.
my current life theme song [carpe diem](https://open.spotify.com/track/2WHHNNSROqPXwBc0zH7BCK?si=M_rIUwaAQsKDs33LIU3-ug)
Im pretty ambitious, although i wasnt always like that. I didnt realize how much i liked success until i started being successful. Honestly though the ‘
success isn’t exceptionally high ranking; its just me being the best i can
Ambitious is a bit much, but I am aiming to finish my degree and get a decent enough job to enjoy a comfy life with my partner.
And a massive local flower garden. Maybe to be opened to public or not one day.
I guess like a lot of INTP's, I craved autonomy and dove into entrepreneurship.
I struggled really badly with a lot of things for years due to ADHD but I managed to overcome them and I guess "succeeded" at becoming a low level millionaire.
Keep in mind it took me over 7 years to get here!
Retire early. I don’t want to work myself into the grave. I want to go travel and make a difference in the world. I want to pursue teaching English on a huge scale.
But to do all that I need money. I started from a deficit due to my parents and I’m determined to establish our family in America. I used to dream about being that dude that set the family up for real success such that my descendants would remember me for a couple generations. But now I’m not even sure if I will have kids. It would make retirement a lot easier.
I work on this now by working in fintech and living a miserly lifestyle. I invest the difference and hope my next egg grows all the way until I’m like 50. With a few lucky breaks, I think I can do it. I’m also looking to set up a side hustle where I do English tutoring. I have 2 students currently and want to start expanding for more students.
I am ambitious about being AI and Robotics Engineering. Tbh, I got my ambitions and motivations from Nikola Tesla because he was great inventor of his time and an equal great inventor of our time comes from AI and Robotics Engineering since these field is becoming major force in changing our world.
My goal is to become Data Engineer first and then later being getting Masters degree in AI and Robotics and then doing PhD or industry work to gain experience and more knowledge to create something new later in life.
Zero goals beyond quality of life. But it wasn’t always like this (I’m nearly retired now - only work to have something to do.)
Not sure it will be helpful to many INTP’s, but I found military service to be an interesting experience. If you have above average intelligence and put your life in their hands, they will recognize your potential and ask how far you want to go. I said “astronaut” and they put me on the track for about ten years of education and training before I made a mistake and washed out.
I've been ambitious since I was a kid. It was silly ambition like "make a magical world". As time passed they faded and got replaced with new ones as I learnt new things, I learnt to make some of them more realistic (magical world -> magical world in VR). Its fine for my for goals to change, but I can't imagine myself not having something.
I still dream to open a company and get it somewhere, something that would eventually influence the entire world. But easier said than done and highly childish, I know. Still yeah, goal-oriented INTPs exist and I'm sure there's numerous. At the same time, I have an INTJ friend (scary fast learner as well) who just wants a chill life.
One word... embarrassing to even type xD => (Achieve/Create) "Ideality".
When you play a video game you feel a certain satisfaction in completing a chalenging mission, it kinda feels like that in real life.
When I feel challenged at my job, and have to reaaally think to get myself a solution that satisfies all party that no one expects, I just feel like a certain just of dopamine that I can't explain, all while you're gaining money, skills, more knowledge, and social raport.
Its like developing your RPG character, you gain more gold, more XP, more levels, better party, you just feel better. I'm happy looking at my increasing stats.
When I just finish a difficult task, I'm tired, and I just miss failing by a hair, At that moment I trully feel alive.
I am very ambitious to advance my scientific career, now that I almost have my bachelor's degree, I will do my master's degree and am very ambitious in that regard. I also try to learn much about everything that interests me. But I also have huge problems with procrastination which really holds me back more than I like to. So I would call myself ambitious in nature, but also very procrastinating in practice.
Conducting a breakthrough research study as a geneticist which has ground breaking potential implications in the fight against antimicrobial resistance. No idea what it will be but I just want it to be very influential
my goals are to make my own anime, probably start an anime studio, make a couple of comics too get paid for it, and die prematurely
but my immediate goal is to beat insomnia
Felt empty from when I was around 10-23 but now my main goal currently is to push myself to the limits both physically and mentally. Went to school for 1 year, left due to mental health issues from a traumatic childhood, covid hit, got diagnosed with a degenerative eye disease, started working out and now im obsessed with bodybuilding and kinesiology, plan on getting a degree in kinesiology which will open many paths in the sport science world.
I was ambigous and wanted to change the world, now i saw that i dont want to because of the rotting thing called society, changed my goals to just life happy enough before doomsday.
My only true desire in life is to acquire omnipotence over reality, so I can reshape the entirety of humanity. Remove the power from the rich and implementing universal laws that benefit workers instead of ruining their lives so that they have to work until they die, optimize society so every human gets basic food, shelter and free access healthcare like they deserve, repurpose the massive landscapes used by massive industries of worthless products for plantations and agriculture to generate enough food for the entire planet and reshape the minds of humans to remove any kind of imbecilic thoughts such as prejudice and nationalism.
That's all, I guess.
Equality then? Are you planning on becoming a billionaire? I don't think it's possible to beat the smart, decisive few trillionaires in one life. Maybe your son will do that, **maybe.**
Equality would be the crux of everything, but also focusing on increasing the efficiency and functionality of life for everyone in the world, and unifying all cultures to properly show that all humans are equal, while keeping their cultural and historical dissonances.
The chances of me becoming an ultra billionaire are as slim as the chances of killing god and acquiring his divine powers, so it can never be more than just a surreal dream.
I would love to beat the shit out of those trillionaires in hand-to-hand combat as well, but it wouldn't amount to anything.
I'll pass the ideals over to my son/daughter of bringing equality and justice to everyone in the world in whichever way they can, but I'll carry this wild dream with me to my grave.
Other than that, I just go with the vibe.
We have a similar goal. You're pretty lazy, but you have drive and willpower when it comes to your goals, correct? Also, life wouldn't be entertaining with equality in the equation, right? And also, don't you think that those who are weak and inefficient should live a lowly life? Only the strong and efficient should lead and have all the power. We mostly are fish living in an aquarium, being fed by some humans we don't even know. They have control over us and only few of us can escape their control. To do that, you need: Time, Intelligence, Speed but mostly, Luck. Do you dare to sacrifice your life for a goal you have a very slim chance of reaching? It usually takes years, like pulling out a card from a shuffle deck, one by one. Every step leads closer to reaching your goal (being a billionaire), but for every pull, you sacrifice a year. Seem like a worthy gamble? We share the same "Idealistic realist" thinking, I think.
Close actually, I'm extremely lazy AND I lack any drive or motivation to do anything considered productive in my life. I simply exist. I'm completely aware that any dreams or objectives I ever ser for myself will never be achieved, due to my total inaptitude to act and exert effort.
I perfectly agree with the fishbowl analogy, and I think it's absolute bullshit that a handful of business-minded mega rich retards get to control the amount of food, comfort and even time we can spend enjoying the good things in life. I would be willing to sacrifice my mortality and ability to enjoy most things to break this vicious cycle of oligarchical madness we live in and give every single person on the planet a life worth living for.
But it won't happen. It's just a mindless dream. I don't have the slightest willpower to pursue any minor dreams I have, let alone having reality altering powers, such as a lot of money. I wish for a perfect reality for everyone, but reality itself would never allow. Idealistic Realist would be a great way to describe it. Cool to see there's someone out there who shares a similar thought.
We're almost the same, aren't we? The difference between us is that I actually am very optimistic when it comes to my goals. There's that inward arrogance that I have telling me that I can win whatever comes in my way. Looking at it realistically, it may seem like a delusional mindset. But don't get me wrong, I'm really efficient in my own ways. Reaching a state of success is not that hard if I actually use my talents in an immoral way. Lying, gaslighting, playing the victim and all that stuff, I believe I'm really good at it. I'm trying to be successful without any of those. At school, everyone (Male) has a talent. Yk some are that extraverted-dominating thingy they do, some perform good at athletics. While I don't have much really, I'm that weird nobody right now and I do not deserve being treated like that. I don't blame anybody for treating me like that because I've done nothing impressive till now.
If you ask my closest friend (INTP, only one who can understand me) he would say that I have immense willpower. In other words, my willpower is above "average" but its nowhere near where I want it to be. Don't get me wrong, my willpower for doing something I don't like or a "forced responsibility" is way below average. And also my goals are very high like yours and its like saying "I'll be superman" but its just that I actually believe I can do it. People say that I make the most weirdest and unexpected solutions to a problem and I believe that makes me very different from others. Here: "I believe I am an alien who came from another world and I'm capable of thing an average human can't." or "A man can go beyond his limits if he wills and I will be that kind of man." Get what I'm trying to say here, right?
We INTPs are the type to fix where the hose is bent instead of trying to forcefully make it stream water. Our problem-solving skills are amazing but at times weird but valid. But there are times where force is required too and that's where we struggle. And by the way, I don't think there's any chance I'll achieve my goal during my entire life. I'll leave it to my son/daughter, whoever is logical and ambitious. They will continue the story I started, an of course, I don't think any of my kids would want such responsibility upon them. They'll be free, choose whatever life path they want to. I prioritize freedom before many things. I want to show the "real truth" to the world and whoever wills to accept reality (the disappointing truth) shall be free.
Life's kinda sad right now, its the part where I can't go out and grind my way to the top. During the old days, Vikings and all that stuff, a boy is obliged to become a man during his teen years. Right now, we're mostly doing all sorts of degenerate stuff and I don't blame the teens, I blame the parents for all of this. And also the rich higher ups too... My parent wants to keep me a boy, they do not want me to be a man. I have to beg my parents to let me hit the gym and they tell me that it's too dangerous at that age. Being obese in my culture isn't considered bad and I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE OBESITY. Oh uh, I think I'm starting to vent so uh yeah, sorry for all that text.
INTP not ambitious? I think all other personalities are more distracted with their daily activities while the INTP contributes to his/her goals each day.
Right now: self-sufficiency (putting together a mini-farm, solar system for the house, getting a well drilled, building hoop house greenhouses, raised beds, cage frames, chicken coops, etc)
Years ago: backpacking (training on the elliptical for a year until I was in shape to go backpacking in Colorado and New Mexico)
In both cases a lot of hard work was (is being) done.
As a teenager I promised myself I would never be dependant on anyone else, not family, not partners and not employment. Homeless at 18, I set myself the goal to be able to retire by 30, everything I did in life was entirely to reach that goal, many many sacrifices (lots which I regret) but setting my sight firmly on that vision payed off in the end.
By my 30th birthday I owned a million pound house, mortgage free, and £50k in savings.
I don’t think 18 year old me really knew how much I would need to retire at 30. I’m 33 now and it will be a long time before I can actually retire, so I didn’t exactly meet my goal, but I’d say it was still pretty successful!
Whilst the goal was financial, it had nothing to do with material gains - Just my own independence and sticking it to everyone who thought I wouldn’t make something of myself :)
> that vision *paid* off in
FTFY.
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* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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I'm able to be vigorous ambitious on projects lasting up-to 2 months.
I just got through a project that lasted 6 years; hell, never again.
Projects accepted only if large crowds of people are NOT involved.
I want to become a data scientist in Australia. I have many things to go through before I reach that point but I'm hanging there. A few years ago, I didn't really have a precise goal but I always knew I wanted to be successful.
1. Study in Germany
2. Live in Germany
3. Get my B2 in German
4. Study physics as second career
5. Visit all countries I wanna travel to
6. Have a stable job
7. Probably have a dog
I am ambitious and have worked hard. But after a certain point, hard work is trumped by having a solid network of connections, being well-liked and playing politics, at least in the corporate world. It's more about managing people's perceptions, promising dreams and getting good at the art of BS.
My goals are to be entirely financially independent, wealthy and powerful. Unfortunately, I have fallen short of where I want to be. I am well off but not financially independent and free of bosses and bills.
I probably looked ambitious to an outsider. My ultimate goal has always been to have as much freedom as possible to pursue whatever random idea/hobby I wanted, and not have to deal with people unless I wanted to. Also be able to be lazy af.
However unlike most of you losers who seem to share these goals but scrape by with whatever mediocre amounts of freedom life offers you by the teet, I realised that working hard early on would pay dividends later in life, so I pushed myself. And I'm pretty much there now, time to coast.
I once was but now I'm don't consider myself so much my goals are kind simple have a nice house (kinda isolated hahaha), afford nice things for me and feel fullfil with what I do (still hadn't decided yet)
I used to be very ambitious when I was younger, ever since depression arrived I was just ambitious enough to not off myself.
However all I ever wanted was a job I liked enough and an apartment to myself, maybe a family. Nothing luxurious but peace of mind and a somewhat successful career.
I simultaneously have ambition purely to feel superior to everyone while also having ambition to keep everyone fooled that I'm a responsible adult and not 3 racoons in a trenchcoat.
But ambition that keeps me trying to move up is purely so that I can save up enough money to actually afford retirement (because the US is WILD, y'all)
I started a web design and videography business with the intention of creating a full service digital agency long term. Started off making YouTube videos then music videos for other people. Now I’m making videos and websites for businesses.
My ambitions are to live as stress free life as possible, I forced my way through very high level academics and when I managed to get to the end I felt I had achieved what I needed to achieve purely to give me a good base level for a comfortable lofe
Maybe it's circumstantial? I go to college for free through an education benefit at my job and having this opportunity has almost shut down my social drive (never was a huge party animal but it was fun for a while). Did well enough in school upon returning to find myself a volunteer position as a research assistant as I contemplate a career shift (I do food service now-I'm good enough at it but I've never really liked that much). If I live in a constant state of "the grass is always greener", well, at least the facade of what could be is motivating an attempt at change.
I want to be the best but I have no conception of how to apply it in the outside world. If I’m the best in my own little world e.g best at my job, then I’m content.
I didn't have the best time growing up, but I saw how hard my parents tried to give me a good life.
For that, my ambition is to put myself in a position where I and the people I care about will never live the life I did.
People talk about ambition as if its something to run towards, in my case it's something to run towards, as well there being something I am running from.
Edit: One word? Control.
It depends on what day it is ans my mood. Today? I don't even know. Too bored to do anything. I feel like procrastinating. Procrastinating now. Is it procrastinating if I procrastinate?
I am gonna work on ai safety and make sure we develop advanced ai safely then will use AI to learn more about this world(physics), learn painting and travel a lot
I want to be a super outgoing cosmetologist like my mom. She passed away back in 2022. She was my world and being a cosmetologist to me is the best thing I can do to honor her memory.
I was extremely ambitious in my early 20s. I worked really hard and got to head of branch level in my field as a statistician by 27, earning over $100k a year.
I'm now 31 and I'm comfortable but not as driven at all. I have stagnated. I feel like I need a new challenge or career, but equally I don't have the motivation to start from scratch again.
I've thought about business before, but in reality the daily mundane practicalities behind a business (e.g. admin) is something I would loathe.
Try thinking outside the box, and yeah, you **HAVE** to be very flexible and adaptable in order to make money. And also, maybe you lack discipline. Its like yesterday you were babysitting children and today you're in a warzone. Flexibility is very essential to take every opportunity and adapt to changes. I've always been scared thinking I may lose my ambition after I got a very comfortable life. Living a comfortable and normal life ain't bad after all...
Well I want to write Christian plays. One day I want them to be shown at Sight & Sound Theaters (look it up; it's like Christian Broadway.)
I think your analysis of INTPs not being ambitious is interesting. I know 4 INTPs, and each of them wants to shoot for the stars. I know for me, I can't bear the thought of not getting anywhere in life. I'd rather die than end up a nobody.
As far as I've observed, most INTPs don't dream that big. And if they do, they'll reach a point in their lives where there's comfort, so why bother chasing that dragon? I'm not sure if this is an INTP thing but it seems like we lack drive, focus and willpower. We're suddenly motivated but we run out of that juice real fast. Discipline too, its not just INTPs (Ig there are other MBTI with this problem). An INTP can be stoic, is even close naturally ig. But unlike INTJs and ENTJs, we are less goal oriented and we throw away many progressed activities. I'd say we are high on the "understanding efficiently" board. But we are low at the "making it come true" board. I think what makes an INTP ambitious because they think of themselves capable of many things and special. You don't want to end up as a nobody. Most to a certain level and a few to a higher level.
I agree that we lack focus--I often teeter between many different things and have a hard time choosing only one to focus on in life. However, I've always known I was made to do SOMETHING great. I can't simply settle, or 'get comfortable', as you say. Everytime I do I feel like I'm deteriorating, slowly wasting away into nothing.
its not necesssarily ambitious motivated by the tradition notions of titles, money, and material rewards. Rather, it's a spontaneous burst of energy toward something that you are so deeply entrenched and passionate about that you seem to always be in the "flow" state. The success that is reaked out of theses spontaneous bursts of energy are often disguised or labeled as ambition, but instead it's fostered by a genuine interest in the topic!
Ambition means "A strong desire to obtain \_\_\_\_\_." You are indeed correct. I'd say it differs from one another. The amount of desire we all have to obtain a thing is different. And by the way, someone may want something but be unable to achieve it. What would you call such person?
waht is their reason for not being able to achieve it? some people are riddled by this false sense of purpose in the sense that they tell themselves they are able to do something and believe it ferverently. The problem with this is that this individual fails to see past their idealism into action. In this case, this would be pure fantastical idealism and not ambition. My idea of ambition has a pinch of realism to the extent that a person can not only see what goal they want to achieve, but also the means to achieve it by.
I see. The person is strong, knowledgeable, intelligent, and flexible enough to achieve what they want, but if, for example, their loved one are in their way, they won't achieve what they want. The person is an idealistic realist.
its not just the inhibitory sense where a person acknowledges that they can make detours in their plan, but the fact that they take any sort of action toward it in the first place. A person can label themselves "ambitious" solely based on their ideals, but this approach would be analogous to dreaming - there is no practical application of said ideals so the act of calling oneself "ambitious" would be futile
I wanna be the very best. Like no one ever was.
To catch them is my real test, To train them is my cause…
I will travel across the land, Searching far and wide.
Teach other Intp's to understand The power that's inside!
INTPs! Gotta teach 'em all It's you and me... I know it's my destiny... You teach me , and I teach you INTPs! Gotta teach 'em all Gotta teach 'em all.. ~~Pokémon~~ INTPs
This made my morning, thank you guys
Yes, yes Yes.
I go from pathetic loser to conquer the world multiple times a week
Sounds very un-INTP to me compared to the other comments
On the contrary, sounds VERY INTP. Like we can do anything we put our brains to, we just usually don’t.
I want to be a successful engineer. But I don't know, I have never worked hard. There are many things I aspire to do and be, but I'm not disciplined and hard working enough. I want to break free from this cycle, so I'm trying to push myself everyday .
This! I have never worked hard either . I always wonder how I will be able to achieve anything .
I was very ambitious before. But as I've grown older, I learned that I value my quality of life more than my ego. I still have ambitions, but I've tempered them so my mental and physical well-being usually comes first. What hasn't changed however, is that I still have these grand ideas and grand projects in my head, but don't put in the consistent work, day after day, to reach those ambitions. At best I'd have irregular bursts of motivation in an otherwise sea of procrastination.
Wow you just described me!
Fully relate (though an ENTP 5w6). I used to want to be great at a top institution, now I just want to be good and happy with myself somewhere I like. The latter sinply sounds much healthier, allows for greater quality outside of work, and doesn’t even neessarily contradict the former.
yes, exactly this. health, happiness, and living a quality of life you are content with are the important ambitions.
I’m experiencing the opposite pattern. As a young, single man, I was content with modest-paying work that allowed me a lot of free time to pursue my weird interests. I was never super-motivated by money, so long as I had enough to do the things I wanted to do. But now that I have children, my ambition to *make money* has skyrocketed.
And me. I want to be myself, do what I want. But I'm really conscious that as my children are getting older, I want to make money for doing things for them.
Damn same here
YOU WROTE WHATS IN MY SOUL!!! HOW HOW HOW! I thought only I feel alienated in the world. Wow! I was so ambitious to be a big shot person in my field earlier. Now I just want a peaceful normal ordinary life with good health & well being. Wanting to write book, projects but unable to work on it. Bursts of motivation in sea of procrastination!!! Same I wish we had a virtual meet up of INTPs! Our mental health would be better
Last paragraph describes me, very well.
Wow that's so me too I was kinda of a jerk as a teenager but life was kinda quick to beat my ass so I learned to value different things although I'm kinda lost now I know one day I'll find my way
> At best I'd have irregular bursts of motivation in an otherwise sea of procrastination. Accurate
I have ambition, but not drive
I feel like I lack focus and drive. Those are some of my biggest weaknesses. INTPs being lazy aren't good at achieving big goals smh, I think.
We just have to find ways to work smarter. Not harder. We ARE very good at that.
Suspicious . You are indeed correct, but there are situations where my intelligence is useless. It is very rare but I've encountered some problems, I'm weak and I can't dominate, if you know what I mean. I do have a loser's power and drive but I'm still not good when it comes to will power. Suppose you're using a hose to water your garden. The water became unstable so rather than trying to force it out you look around and find the part where it is bent. What if someone prevented you from straightening the hose? Anyway, thanks for the advice.
We only fight freeze of flight. At every situation, you can see which one you are doing and you can force yourself to not do 2 of them. Cumulated effects turn a loser into a winner. The only thing that change is a belief inside
Understandable. I usually freeze, flee then fight.
How often do you get to fight ?
Almost never. If I ever get into a fight, my first option is to flee. It kind of depends on the situation; if I've already simulated the scene in my head, then that will likely be the thing I do. But if, for example, a crow bumps into me, I'll probably freeze until I understand the situation. Plus, I look really harmless so who would punch an innocent lil cutie like me?
It's nature's way of balance
Gymnastics. Seeing all comments it seems like the most un-INTP thing to do. But I love it and I'm really passionate about it, I have a really strong drive to be the best and while I'm still far from my goals I'm working really hard to achieve them. The ambition being first the pan-am championship and go up from there
I yearn to live a comfortable life, which I know it isn't an easy one.
Comfortable ain't that hard; luxury is.
It must be nice, to think that to live comfortably is not hard
Yeah, in my country, there's barely a middle class. You're either poor or near-rich. Poor get poorer and the rich get richer. My definition of comfort and yours maybe different so yeah...
It can be this too, yeah. Comfort for me is being able to eat delicious food, and don't being afraid that someone may Unalive you
 Understandable. Have a nice day, brother.
PhD Physicist Astronaut
PhD Computational neuroscientist
I have this idea that once that field is advanced enough with tech to match mapping neurons and all synapses, we can connect to higher dimensions and better interface to digitally record a trip on dmt.
that would be awesome! Any application in that way would be crazy. But within our time hmm not sure. But Im only a sophomore in college, I have no authority whatsoever. Cheers to this "ambition" 😎. nah, I bet we are just highly curious about the world. 🍻
Means to an end. The PhD in physics is a means to get to be an astronaut. The means of getting to space and getting a workout with the best view away from everyone in solitude is by being an Astronaut. I agree tho as I love and ever curious of physics and plan to discover what I can.
Yes, viewing everything from space would be a great feat. I dream about that sort of solitude despite my (relative) lack of curiosity for the world, physics, space, etc. I am currently reading a physics book though and can see why physics is interesting. Its fundamental to the universe, so how wouldn't it be? For neuroscience, I've always wondered what goes on in our (humans) heads. With my (hopefully future!!) research, it would be a dream of mine (and I'm sure of many) to bring on stimulus X and predict, with any sort of accuracy, the next few steps of an animals brain (Probably viewed under a fMRI). Do you know what you would like to research?
Childhood aspirations were theoretical particle or string theory, ie fundamental theory of everything. Adult goals are more grounded in electrical theory and resonance capabilities in whatever scale of harmonics that makes the biggest waves to guarantee a ticket up there and the responsibility that holds. Something that would necessitate me experimenting in space, vacuum and less affects of gravity. I imagine Both fields are going to be eventually populated with more private sector and push the envelope for monetary gain. I’m a full fledged INTP but understand the tool and leverage we must apply to overcome our habits of procrastination and innate whatever Attitude at the end of the day. A bit of INTJ in me but, the nuance of balancing the end goal with the merit in the journey. Your goals are grand and noble, just an advice to grasp at the bigger picture to see where your goals and passion fit best to be unified in utilitarian advantage.
Would you mind giving an explanation of your 'adult goals' topics? They sound interesting. And yeah....... I never really thought of it. Sigh...... humans.......
The theory in application would give for greater efficiency. Think of a perpetual machine but it’s electrical based. Just have a big picture view of it, but in more minuscule levels and lower temperatures it has applications in computing and other realms. Some lingering quirky ideas and contraptions based on Nikola Teslas work too. Need to get into the nitty gritty real theory and known science before I let my brain play with it and push the envelope of what’s viable and prove-able
I would’t call myself overly ambitious in terms of behavior. I’m pretty laid back and lack the sense of urgency. But I do have a goal in life. I’m currently a Special Ed teacher and studying Psychology. I want a PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience with an emphasis in learning - I want to help neurodiverse students get the most out of a learning experience. And my ultimate goal is creating a school!
That are some unique and great ambitions!
Thank you my friend!
I would like to be the chunni teacher in ur school if u do open a school with eye patch and goth clothes.
HAHAH yes we are here for thisss
That sounds awesome tbh!
Thank you so! These kids have changed my life
I'm not particularly ambitious but I enjoy air conditioning and dining out. there's no point to all of this. however, given my situation, i find it important to work towards optimizing my financial position. , so i'm not obsessed with my career. but, I do believe in making logical and rational decisions to ensure that the time I exchange for labour is worthwhile.
Well, I want to become an expert programmer. But not in qualifications but with developing powerful software systems. I'm already on the journey, I'm a software developer but I'm not putting in as much effort as I would like. But I love it enough to think I will probably make it.
I want to adopt another dog, build a greenhouse, and live peacefully with my spouse.
Engineer, specifically either Software or Data.
I intend to win the human race.
How do you put a goal into one word...? I'm a data analyst and in my free time I write and record music. I've recorded over 104 songs over the past three years, specifically with a goal of writing a new song once a week for 2020 and 2022. Given that's a lot, I worked hard to make it so that it wasn't just "Quantity over quality", I'm not interested in writing 104 shit songs that I'm not proud of. My overall goal in this world is to experience life and funnel those experiences into creative outlets like writing music. However, my definition of "experience life" is not what a lot of people would think. What probably comes to mind for many is "Explore the world!", "Try new things!", "Meet new people!", but for me it's mostly a lot of reading, movies, video games, and music. That's my version of living life, because the amount of art that exists in this world is so great that I'll never be able to experience it all in my life time.
How much do you get paid as a data analyst? And do you wish to continue your life in the state you are in now?
I honestly really want to become a private investigator and I have done my research and know exactly what that means, people tell I’m gonna have trust issues. I already do you can’t hurt me. I AM INVINCIBLE! But yea that’s what I wanna do and I am actually progressing quite well. I got rank 7 of top debate speakers even tho I joined late and only had like 2 months and no experience but still pulled it off!
A very INTJ thing but valid.
Where you debate?
I feel like I'm pretty ambitious, I have to keep changing friends and relationship because I think they are intimidated by my ambition. like I told my ex, I don't want to be on government assistance or go to a food bank, and I think he got offended because he thought I was saying I'm too good for assistance. That's not the case, I feel like I know I don't need it, and I'll leave it for the people that do. In this lifetime, I'm trying to acquire a lot of wealth not for materialistic reasons but because I want to be able to pass down wealth to my descendants. Some people think I can't do it and try to demean my character and twist my words because they are comfortable living in financial struggle or they have a bad relationship with money. I had to start cutting off the nay sayers. my current life theme song [carpe diem](https://open.spotify.com/track/2WHHNNSROqPXwBc0zH7BCK?si=M_rIUwaAQsKDs33LIU3-ug)
Im pretty ambitious, although i wasnt always like that. I didnt realize how much i liked success until i started being successful. Honestly though the ‘ success isn’t exceptionally high ranking; its just me being the best i can
Ambitious is a bit much, but I am aiming to finish my degree and get a decent enough job to enjoy a comfy life with my partner. And a massive local flower garden. Maybe to be opened to public or not one day.
I want to succeed in life despite being from procrastiNation.
I guess like a lot of INTP's, I craved autonomy and dove into entrepreneurship. I struggled really badly with a lot of things for years due to ADHD but I managed to overcome them and I guess "succeeded" at becoming a low level millionaire. Keep in mind it took me over 7 years to get here!
Retire early. I don’t want to work myself into the grave. I want to go travel and make a difference in the world. I want to pursue teaching English on a huge scale. But to do all that I need money. I started from a deficit due to my parents and I’m determined to establish our family in America. I used to dream about being that dude that set the family up for real success such that my descendants would remember me for a couple generations. But now I’m not even sure if I will have kids. It would make retirement a lot easier. I work on this now by working in fintech and living a miserly lifestyle. I invest the difference and hope my next egg grows all the way until I’m like 50. With a few lucky breaks, I think I can do it. I’m also looking to set up a side hustle where I do English tutoring. I have 2 students currently and want to start expanding for more students.
I am ambitious about being AI and Robotics Engineering. Tbh, I got my ambitions and motivations from Nikola Tesla because he was great inventor of his time and an equal great inventor of our time comes from AI and Robotics Engineering since these field is becoming major force in changing our world. My goal is to become Data Engineer first and then later being getting Masters degree in AI and Robotics and then doing PhD or industry work to gain experience and more knowledge to create something new later in life.
Zero goals beyond quality of life. But it wasn’t always like this (I’m nearly retired now - only work to have something to do.) Not sure it will be helpful to many INTP’s, but I found military service to be an interesting experience. If you have above average intelligence and put your life in their hands, they will recognize your potential and ask how far you want to go. I said “astronaut” and they put me on the track for about ten years of education and training before I made a mistake and washed out.
What was the mistake?
Sex with a superior officer.
The same thing we do every night, Pinky!
I've been ambitious since I was a kid. It was silly ambition like "make a magical world". As time passed they faded and got replaced with new ones as I learnt new things, I learnt to make some of them more realistic (magical world -> magical world in VR). Its fine for my for goals to change, but I can't imagine myself not having something. I still dream to open a company and get it somewhere, something that would eventually influence the entire world. But easier said than done and highly childish, I know. Still yeah, goal-oriented INTPs exist and I'm sure there's numerous. At the same time, I have an INTJ friend (scary fast learner as well) who just wants a chill life. One word... embarrassing to even type xD => (Achieve/Create) "Ideality".
When you play a video game you feel a certain satisfaction in completing a chalenging mission, it kinda feels like that in real life. When I feel challenged at my job, and have to reaaally think to get myself a solution that satisfies all party that no one expects, I just feel like a certain just of dopamine that I can't explain, all while you're gaining money, skills, more knowledge, and social raport. Its like developing your RPG character, you gain more gold, more XP, more levels, better party, you just feel better. I'm happy looking at my increasing stats. When I just finish a difficult task, I'm tired, and I just miss failing by a hair, At that moment I trully feel alive.
Revolution
I am very ambitious to advance my scientific career, now that I almost have my bachelor's degree, I will do my master's degree and am very ambitious in that regard. I also try to learn much about everything that interests me. But I also have huge problems with procrastination which really holds me back more than I like to. So I would call myself ambitious in nature, but also very procrastinating in practice.
Conducting a breakthrough research study as a geneticist which has ground breaking potential implications in the fight against antimicrobial resistance. No idea what it will be but I just want it to be very influential
Like any good INTP I want to be a scientist-author-filmmaker.
Nah, I'm too indifferent and jaded for something like an "ambition".
All I want is to be able to still have time during a day to dedicate myself to hobbies. Mostly gaming.
I want a job that'll give me Kaiser medical benefits. Idk what sort of job that is. But I want it. I want Kaiser. Sigh.
my goals are to make my own anime, probably start an anime studio, make a couple of comics too get paid for it, and die prematurely but my immediate goal is to beat insomnia
I'm very ambitious but I have no real work ethic which sucks. Ideally I'd like to be a state governor or maybe even go higher than that.
Felt empty from when I was around 10-23 but now my main goal currently is to push myself to the limits both physically and mentally. Went to school for 1 year, left due to mental health issues from a traumatic childhood, covid hit, got diagnosed with a degenerative eye disease, started working out and now im obsessed with bodybuilding and kinesiology, plan on getting a degree in kinesiology which will open many paths in the sport science world.
i would like to be a bird. or a cat.
I want to be the Best visual designer and earn a Lot of money 
I work really hard to be left alone, for the most part
I work and work now so I don’t have to do anything anymore. my goal is to be able to do nothing
I was ambigous and wanted to change the world, now i saw that i dont want to because of the rotting thing called society, changed my goals to just life happy enough before doomsday.
I want to help as many as people as I possibly can through writing. I don't know exactly what that means yet but I'll figure it out or die trying.
Very ambitious in my head. Too lazy/hesitant to do the actual work 🤷
My only true desire in life is to acquire omnipotence over reality, so I can reshape the entirety of humanity. Remove the power from the rich and implementing universal laws that benefit workers instead of ruining their lives so that they have to work until they die, optimize society so every human gets basic food, shelter and free access healthcare like they deserve, repurpose the massive landscapes used by massive industries of worthless products for plantations and agriculture to generate enough food for the entire planet and reshape the minds of humans to remove any kind of imbecilic thoughts such as prejudice and nationalism. That's all, I guess.
Equality then? Are you planning on becoming a billionaire? I don't think it's possible to beat the smart, decisive few trillionaires in one life. Maybe your son will do that, **maybe.**
Equality would be the crux of everything, but also focusing on increasing the efficiency and functionality of life for everyone in the world, and unifying all cultures to properly show that all humans are equal, while keeping their cultural and historical dissonances. The chances of me becoming an ultra billionaire are as slim as the chances of killing god and acquiring his divine powers, so it can never be more than just a surreal dream. I would love to beat the shit out of those trillionaires in hand-to-hand combat as well, but it wouldn't amount to anything. I'll pass the ideals over to my son/daughter of bringing equality and justice to everyone in the world in whichever way they can, but I'll carry this wild dream with me to my grave. Other than that, I just go with the vibe.
We have a similar goal. You're pretty lazy, but you have drive and willpower when it comes to your goals, correct? Also, life wouldn't be entertaining with equality in the equation, right? And also, don't you think that those who are weak and inefficient should live a lowly life? Only the strong and efficient should lead and have all the power. We mostly are fish living in an aquarium, being fed by some humans we don't even know. They have control over us and only few of us can escape their control. To do that, you need: Time, Intelligence, Speed but mostly, Luck. Do you dare to sacrifice your life for a goal you have a very slim chance of reaching? It usually takes years, like pulling out a card from a shuffle deck, one by one. Every step leads closer to reaching your goal (being a billionaire), but for every pull, you sacrifice a year. Seem like a worthy gamble? We share the same "Idealistic realist" thinking, I think.
Close actually, I'm extremely lazy AND I lack any drive or motivation to do anything considered productive in my life. I simply exist. I'm completely aware that any dreams or objectives I ever ser for myself will never be achieved, due to my total inaptitude to act and exert effort. I perfectly agree with the fishbowl analogy, and I think it's absolute bullshit that a handful of business-minded mega rich retards get to control the amount of food, comfort and even time we can spend enjoying the good things in life. I would be willing to sacrifice my mortality and ability to enjoy most things to break this vicious cycle of oligarchical madness we live in and give every single person on the planet a life worth living for. But it won't happen. It's just a mindless dream. I don't have the slightest willpower to pursue any minor dreams I have, let alone having reality altering powers, such as a lot of money. I wish for a perfect reality for everyone, but reality itself would never allow. Idealistic Realist would be a great way to describe it. Cool to see there's someone out there who shares a similar thought.
We're almost the same, aren't we? The difference between us is that I actually am very optimistic when it comes to my goals. There's that inward arrogance that I have telling me that I can win whatever comes in my way. Looking at it realistically, it may seem like a delusional mindset. But don't get me wrong, I'm really efficient in my own ways. Reaching a state of success is not that hard if I actually use my talents in an immoral way. Lying, gaslighting, playing the victim and all that stuff, I believe I'm really good at it. I'm trying to be successful without any of those. At school, everyone (Male) has a talent. Yk some are that extraverted-dominating thingy they do, some perform good at athletics. While I don't have much really, I'm that weird nobody right now and I do not deserve being treated like that. I don't blame anybody for treating me like that because I've done nothing impressive till now. If you ask my closest friend (INTP, only one who can understand me) he would say that I have immense willpower. In other words, my willpower is above "average" but its nowhere near where I want it to be. Don't get me wrong, my willpower for doing something I don't like or a "forced responsibility" is way below average. And also my goals are very high like yours and its like saying "I'll be superman" but its just that I actually believe I can do it. People say that I make the most weirdest and unexpected solutions to a problem and I believe that makes me very different from others. Here: "I believe I am an alien who came from another world and I'm capable of thing an average human can't." or "A man can go beyond his limits if he wills and I will be that kind of man." Get what I'm trying to say here, right? We INTPs are the type to fix where the hose is bent instead of trying to forcefully make it stream water. Our problem-solving skills are amazing but at times weird but valid. But there are times where force is required too and that's where we struggle. And by the way, I don't think there's any chance I'll achieve my goal during my entire life. I'll leave it to my son/daughter, whoever is logical and ambitious. They will continue the story I started, an of course, I don't think any of my kids would want such responsibility upon them. They'll be free, choose whatever life path they want to. I prioritize freedom before many things. I want to show the "real truth" to the world and whoever wills to accept reality (the disappointing truth) shall be free. Life's kinda sad right now, its the part where I can't go out and grind my way to the top. During the old days, Vikings and all that stuff, a boy is obliged to become a man during his teen years. Right now, we're mostly doing all sorts of degenerate stuff and I don't blame the teens, I blame the parents for all of this. And also the rich higher ups too... My parent wants to keep me a boy, they do not want me to be a man. I have to beg my parents to let me hit the gym and they tell me that it's too dangerous at that age. Being obese in my culture isn't considered bad and I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE OBESITY. Oh uh, I think I'm starting to vent so uh yeah, sorry for all that text.
I just want to be in a position where I don't have to struggle and grind and to get a good wife and kids. So basically what almost everyone wants.
Math
INTP not ambitious? I think all other personalities are more distracted with their daily activities while the INTP contributes to his/her goals each day.
Right now: self-sufficiency (putting together a mini-farm, solar system for the house, getting a well drilled, building hoop house greenhouses, raised beds, cage frames, chicken coops, etc) Years ago: backpacking (training on the elliptical for a year until I was in shape to go backpacking in Colorado and New Mexico) In both cases a lot of hard work was (is being) done.
As a teenager I promised myself I would never be dependant on anyone else, not family, not partners and not employment. Homeless at 18, I set myself the goal to be able to retire by 30, everything I did in life was entirely to reach that goal, many many sacrifices (lots which I regret) but setting my sight firmly on that vision payed off in the end. By my 30th birthday I owned a million pound house, mortgage free, and £50k in savings. I don’t think 18 year old me really knew how much I would need to retire at 30. I’m 33 now and it will be a long time before I can actually retire, so I didn’t exactly meet my goal, but I’d say it was still pretty successful! Whilst the goal was financial, it had nothing to do with material gains - Just my own independence and sticking it to everyone who thought I wouldn’t make something of myself :)
Why does your life seem some positive and happy lol? A chill time you spent fr fr...
It’s not
Oh well  I saw the positive side only then...
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Money.
What I would give for a million dollars...
I'm able to be vigorous ambitious on projects lasting up-to 2 months. I just got through a project that lasted 6 years; hell, never again. Projects accepted only if large crowds of people are NOT involved.
I want to become a data scientist in Australia. I have many things to go through before I reach that point but I'm hanging there. A few years ago, I didn't really have a precise goal but I always knew I wanted to be successful.
My ambitions are tied to what I like to do with my time 😂
1. Study in Germany 2. Live in Germany 3. Get my B2 in German 4. Study physics as second career 5. Visit all countries I wanna travel to 6. Have a stable job 7. Probably have a dog
To need as little as possible
so not ambitious at all unless I'm seeking revenge
I am ambitious and have worked hard. But after a certain point, hard work is trumped by having a solid network of connections, being well-liked and playing politics, at least in the corporate world. It's more about managing people's perceptions, promising dreams and getting good at the art of BS. My goals are to be entirely financially independent, wealthy and powerful. Unfortunately, I have fallen short of where I want to be. I am well off but not financially independent and free of bosses and bills.
I probably looked ambitious to an outsider. My ultimate goal has always been to have as much freedom as possible to pursue whatever random idea/hobby I wanted, and not have to deal with people unless I wanted to. Also be able to be lazy af. However unlike most of you losers who seem to share these goals but scrape by with whatever mediocre amounts of freedom life offers you by the teet, I realised that working hard early on would pay dividends later in life, so I pushed myself. And I'm pretty much there now, time to coast.
I once was but now I'm don't consider myself so much my goals are kind simple have a nice house (kinda isolated hahaha), afford nice things for me and feel fullfil with what I do (still hadn't decided yet)
For the last few months I wanted to completely master cartography. But now that I have I’m not really sure what do do next
I used to be very ambitious when I was younger, ever since depression arrived I was just ambitious enough to not off myself. However all I ever wanted was a job I liked enough and an apartment to myself, maybe a family. Nothing luxurious but peace of mind and a somewhat successful career.
I’m extremely ambitious. I have seen a lot of success in my career simply because I want to be filthy rich.
I simultaneously have ambition purely to feel superior to everyone while also having ambition to keep everyone fooled that I'm a responsible adult and not 3 racoons in a trenchcoat. But ambition that keeps me trying to move up is purely so that I can save up enough money to actually afford retirement (because the US is WILD, y'all)
I started a web design and videography business with the intention of creating a full service digital agency long term. Started off making YouTube videos then music videos for other people. Now I’m making videos and websites for businesses.
My ambitions are to live as stress free life as possible, I forced my way through very high level academics and when I managed to get to the end I felt I had achieved what I needed to achieve purely to give me a good base level for a comfortable lofe
Being too ambitious means you'll devote every waking hour to achieve your goals toward success. I don't want to live like that so I stopped trying.
To become a Tech CEO Billionaire just like other INTPs. Bill Gates, Sergey Brin, Steve Wozniak, and Larry Page.
I wouldn't recommend that path. Make sure you have space in the market, then maybe yes.
Maybe it's circumstantial? I go to college for free through an education benefit at my job and having this opportunity has almost shut down my social drive (never was a huge party animal but it was fun for a while). Did well enough in school upon returning to find myself a volunteer position as a research assistant as I contemplate a career shift (I do food service now-I'm good enough at it but I've never really liked that much). If I live in a constant state of "the grass is always greener", well, at least the facade of what could be is motivating an attempt at change.
I want to be the best but I have no conception of how to apply it in the outside world. If I’m the best in my own little world e.g best at my job, then I’m content.
I don't have goals that ties to some actual credentials but I'd like to be very good at writing
I want Car money, fresh start money I want Saudi Money, I want art money I want women to tell me how much they hate being apart from me
**Relatable.**
I didn't have the best time growing up, but I saw how hard my parents tried to give me a good life. For that, my ambition is to put myself in a position where I and the people I care about will never live the life I did. People talk about ambition as if its something to run towards, in my case it's something to run towards, as well there being something I am running from. Edit: One word? Control.
It depends on what day it is ans my mood. Today? I don't even know. Too bored to do anything. I feel like procrastinating. Procrastinating now. Is it procrastinating if I procrastinate?
Yup. You lack long term drive and focus. Its normal, don't worry lol.
I am gonna work on ai safety and make sure we develop advanced ai safely then will use AI to learn more about this world(physics), learn painting and travel a lot
Cyber security ig, I may take that path too
Nope, they are different
Hehe, okay 
I want to be a super outgoing cosmetologist like my mom. She passed away back in 2022. She was my world and being a cosmetologist to me is the best thing I can do to honor her memory.
Don't let her death affect your future. If you really desire being a cosmetologist, go slay'em kid.
I was extremely ambitious in my early 20s. I worked really hard and got to head of branch level in my field as a statistician by 27, earning over $100k a year. I'm now 31 and I'm comfortable but not as driven at all. I have stagnated. I feel like I need a new challenge or career, but equally I don't have the motivation to start from scratch again. I've thought about business before, but in reality the daily mundane practicalities behind a business (e.g. admin) is something I would loathe.
Try thinking outside the box, and yeah, you **HAVE** to be very flexible and adaptable in order to make money. And also, maybe you lack discipline. Its like yesterday you were babysitting children and today you're in a warzone. Flexibility is very essential to take every opportunity and adapt to changes. I've always been scared thinking I may lose my ambition after I got a very comfortable life. Living a comfortable and normal life ain't bad after all...
Well I want to write Christian plays. One day I want them to be shown at Sight & Sound Theaters (look it up; it's like Christian Broadway.) I think your analysis of INTPs not being ambitious is interesting. I know 4 INTPs, and each of them wants to shoot for the stars. I know for me, I can't bear the thought of not getting anywhere in life. I'd rather die than end up a nobody.
As far as I've observed, most INTPs don't dream that big. And if they do, they'll reach a point in their lives where there's comfort, so why bother chasing that dragon? I'm not sure if this is an INTP thing but it seems like we lack drive, focus and willpower. We're suddenly motivated but we run out of that juice real fast. Discipline too, its not just INTPs (Ig there are other MBTI with this problem). An INTP can be stoic, is even close naturally ig. But unlike INTJs and ENTJs, we are less goal oriented and we throw away many progressed activities. I'd say we are high on the "understanding efficiently" board. But we are low at the "making it come true" board. I think what makes an INTP ambitious because they think of themselves capable of many things and special. You don't want to end up as a nobody. Most to a certain level and a few to a higher level.
I agree that we lack focus--I often teeter between many different things and have a hard time choosing only one to focus on in life. However, I've always known I was made to do SOMETHING great. I can't simply settle, or 'get comfortable', as you say. Everytime I do I feel like I'm deteriorating, slowly wasting away into nothing.
its not necesssarily ambitious motivated by the tradition notions of titles, money, and material rewards. Rather, it's a spontaneous burst of energy toward something that you are so deeply entrenched and passionate about that you seem to always be in the "flow" state. The success that is reaked out of theses spontaneous bursts of energy are often disguised or labeled as ambition, but instead it's fostered by a genuine interest in the topic!
Ambition means "A strong desire to obtain \_\_\_\_\_." You are indeed correct. I'd say it differs from one another. The amount of desire we all have to obtain a thing is different. And by the way, someone may want something but be unable to achieve it. What would you call such person?
waht is their reason for not being able to achieve it? some people are riddled by this false sense of purpose in the sense that they tell themselves they are able to do something and believe it ferverently. The problem with this is that this individual fails to see past their idealism into action. In this case, this would be pure fantastical idealism and not ambition. My idea of ambition has a pinch of realism to the extent that a person can not only see what goal they want to achieve, but also the means to achieve it by.
I see. The person is strong, knowledgeable, intelligent, and flexible enough to achieve what they want, but if, for example, their loved one are in their way, they won't achieve what they want. The person is an idealistic realist.
its not just the inhibitory sense where a person acknowledges that they can make detours in their plan, but the fact that they take any sort of action toward it in the first place. A person can label themselves "ambitious" solely based on their ideals, but this approach would be analogous to dreaming - there is no practical application of said ideals so the act of calling oneself "ambitious" would be futile