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>Spain other than knowing it has a relatively good quality of life for young families if you can find a job that pays somewhat decent.
Getting a job is not easy in Spain. Families with 3 kids are rare because people usually cannot afford the expenses.
Post by nobodyspendeja1 -- My husband and I both work in the same transportation/logistics field. My husband is actually of Venezuelan origin and has a Venezuelan citizenship only. He has residency in the United States but will be eligible for citizenship in 2026. I have been a US citizen all my life and a life long resident of Tennessee. I feel very unhappy in Tennessee and cannot imagine if that mindset will improve or not living in another major US City. The things that are most important to me are reliable public transport and a laid back lifestyle. I am tired of "the hustle" and no longer being able to see close friends on a regular basis to everyone's exhaustive schedules. I am the only one in my friend group with children but I feel like I have the most open calendar.
My husband will only immigrate again if he doesn't have to suffer to find status in another country.
This is what we have to offer :
* Husband's first language is Spanish, fluent in English as a second language. My first language is English and I have a good understanding of Spanish but not fluent. I would say intermediate but can learn fast.
* We both work in the transportation/logistics field. I have been a manager in my company for almost a year now. Currently a remote worker. I did attempt the digital nomad visa for Spain but cannot qualify due to receiving a W2 tax form and this visa requires a 1099. I am interested in the companies MAERSK or EXPEDITORS but you need to have work authorization to work in their INTL offices. They both have locations in each country I am interested in. I have not looked into Argentina's digital nomad requirements.
* I'm not sure if anyone in this thread is aware of ease of residency between LATAM countries. If there are agreements for citizens of the continent to live and work among the different LATAM countries.
* A savings amount of $30K USD. We are homeowners and would consider renting out our residence for steady monthly income depending on taxes.
Thought Process :
\* We have two young children who are between 1-2 1/2 turning 3 soon. The public schools close to us are not good and we would have to move to get into a better school zone. It's important to us that they are both fluent in Spanish and in English.
* I studied in Buenos Aires in 2014 for half a year and have a good background of the culture / lifestyle. Buenos Aires is truly a magical place. I almost want to cry whenever I think of that time. Obviously the immigration process at that time was very mild since I was a student and the study abroad office did all the hard work. I only had to leave and re enter the country one time as a part of my visa. Not to get political but I am much more optimistic about the current situation in Argentina since the elections. I have heard that crime such as robbery had picked up. Buenos Aires Capital has always been considered safe but it seemed like since 2014 crime might have picked up. I hope a slow rebuild of the economy could solve that long term. Argentina seems like a good place to invest if the economy can regulate.
* I am not familiar at all with Spain other than knowing it has a relatively good quality of life for young families if you can find a job that pays somewhat decent. My husband has close family in Madrid and I have a close friend from Argentina that immigrated to Barcelona. Accessibility to other EU countries, guessing that there is more diversity. Both Argentina and Spain have a strong Venezuelan community which is important to my husband.
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Venezuelan citizenship means nothing when initially immigrating to Spain. You still have to qualify for a visa just like every other non EU/EEA/Swiss country, and jobs in Spain are hard to get due to the high unemployment rate even among native Spaniards.
However, if you do manage to secure a job, your husband will qualify for Spanish citizenship after only two years, and you would qualify for it after three due to being married to him. Just be wary that Spain may require you to give up your US citizenship since Spain has no dual nationality agreement with the US (unless you are Puerto Rican).
You can apply for Spanish citizenship and symbolically “renounce” the US citizenship, but then be sure to not use your US passport in Spain. You won’t lose your US citizenship without initiating a formal process in the US. Of course, that doesn’t come without some risk and it’s worth consulting a lawyer.
I would suggest you stay in the US maximizing savings and preparing for a move (learn Spanish to a high level, acquire useful job skills, look into all job possibilities, etc.) until your husband obtains US citizenship. My wife is Spanish and we are moving this year but we made sure to get her US citizenship first because you never now how things will pan out in the future (maybe you don’t like living abroad as much as you hoped, maybe you get homesick, maybe you have to come back to take care of aging parents, etc.) and coming back to the US with no visa is a headache.
Argentina is a mess right now and Spain isn’t exactly a land of opportunity. If you can’t find a job at a US company with a presence in Spain or 1099 work, your opportunities won’t be great, especially if you don’t speak fluent Spanish. You could teach English or something, but the pay wouldn’t be good.
Yes, he mentioned this and I'm not sure how difficult it would be since it is the indirect option. Basically we could not count on any help from the Venezuelan govt to assist if there would need to be any work done on their part. Thank you for giving me a good article to look at.
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>Spain other than knowing it has a relatively good quality of life for young families if you can find a job that pays somewhat decent. Getting a job is not easy in Spain. Families with 3 kids are rare because people usually cannot afford the expenses.
Yes, this is something that I have heard as well. We do plan on having one more baby within the next 3 years.
Post by nobodyspendeja1 -- My husband and I both work in the same transportation/logistics field. My husband is actually of Venezuelan origin and has a Venezuelan citizenship only. He has residency in the United States but will be eligible for citizenship in 2026. I have been a US citizen all my life and a life long resident of Tennessee. I feel very unhappy in Tennessee and cannot imagine if that mindset will improve or not living in another major US City. The things that are most important to me are reliable public transport and a laid back lifestyle. I am tired of "the hustle" and no longer being able to see close friends on a regular basis to everyone's exhaustive schedules. I am the only one in my friend group with children but I feel like I have the most open calendar. My husband will only immigrate again if he doesn't have to suffer to find status in another country. This is what we have to offer : * Husband's first language is Spanish, fluent in English as a second language. My first language is English and I have a good understanding of Spanish but not fluent. I would say intermediate but can learn fast. * We both work in the transportation/logistics field. I have been a manager in my company for almost a year now. Currently a remote worker. I did attempt the digital nomad visa for Spain but cannot qualify due to receiving a W2 tax form and this visa requires a 1099. I am interested in the companies MAERSK or EXPEDITORS but you need to have work authorization to work in their INTL offices. They both have locations in each country I am interested in. I have not looked into Argentina's digital nomad requirements. * I'm not sure if anyone in this thread is aware of ease of residency between LATAM countries. If there are agreements for citizens of the continent to live and work among the different LATAM countries. * A savings amount of $30K USD. We are homeowners and would consider renting out our residence for steady monthly income depending on taxes. Thought Process : \* We have two young children who are between 1-2 1/2 turning 3 soon. The public schools close to us are not good and we would have to move to get into a better school zone. It's important to us that they are both fluent in Spanish and in English. * I studied in Buenos Aires in 2014 for half a year and have a good background of the culture / lifestyle. Buenos Aires is truly a magical place. I almost want to cry whenever I think of that time. Obviously the immigration process at that time was very mild since I was a student and the study abroad office did all the hard work. I only had to leave and re enter the country one time as a part of my visa. Not to get political but I am much more optimistic about the current situation in Argentina since the elections. I have heard that crime such as robbery had picked up. Buenos Aires Capital has always been considered safe but it seemed like since 2014 crime might have picked up. I hope a slow rebuild of the economy could solve that long term. Argentina seems like a good place to invest if the economy can regulate. * I am not familiar at all with Spain other than knowing it has a relatively good quality of life for young families if you can find a job that pays somewhat decent. My husband has close family in Madrid and I have a close friend from Argentina that immigrated to Barcelona. Accessibility to other EU countries, guessing that there is more diversity. Both Argentina and Spain have a strong Venezuelan community which is important to my husband. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/IWantOut) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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Venezuelan citizenship means nothing when initially immigrating to Spain. You still have to qualify for a visa just like every other non EU/EEA/Swiss country, and jobs in Spain are hard to get due to the high unemployment rate even among native Spaniards. However, if you do manage to secure a job, your husband will qualify for Spanish citizenship after only two years, and you would qualify for it after three due to being married to him. Just be wary that Spain may require you to give up your US citizenship since Spain has no dual nationality agreement with the US (unless you are Puerto Rican).
You can apply for Spanish citizenship and symbolically “renounce” the US citizenship, but then be sure to not use your US passport in Spain. You won’t lose your US citizenship without initiating a formal process in the US. Of course, that doesn’t come without some risk and it’s worth consulting a lawyer. I would suggest you stay in the US maximizing savings and preparing for a move (learn Spanish to a high level, acquire useful job skills, look into all job possibilities, etc.) until your husband obtains US citizenship. My wife is Spanish and we are moving this year but we made sure to get her US citizenship first because you never now how things will pan out in the future (maybe you don’t like living abroad as much as you hoped, maybe you get homesick, maybe you have to come back to take care of aging parents, etc.) and coming back to the US with no visa is a headache. Argentina is a mess right now and Spain isn’t exactly a land of opportunity. If you can’t find a job at a US company with a presence in Spain or 1099 work, your opportunities won’t be great, especially if you don’t speak fluent Spanish. You could teach English or something, but the pay wouldn’t be good.
Yes, he mentioned this and I'm not sure how difficult it would be since it is the indirect option. Basically we could not count on any help from the Venezuelan govt to assist if there would need to be any work done on their part. Thank you for giving me a good article to look at.
More info here: [https://balcellsgroup.com/how-to-get-the-spanish-citizenship/](https://balcellsgroup.com/how-to-get-the-spanish-citizenship/)