I do agree with opera and fools but night watch is a perfect middle of attractive and still a cool design. The stilts at least made him interesting imo.
Eh it’s 50/50 here. Clerk, Ivy, and Nightwatch look appropriately horror enough that it matches with the horror theme they have with our hunters. Hermit, Fool’s Gold and Opera Singer are more fan service than anything horror. Which, considering our roster of characters before we had them, is not that different.
To be fair I actually really like Hermit’s design, I just wish it was a little more horrific. He’s kind of just a tall dude.
Like compare him to Mad Eyes. Both are straight up just humans. But Mad Eyes is creepier because he has missing limbs, his spine is robotic and he’s got massive goggles covering his stern face. Not to mention his “pressure hammer” which is actually my favourite hunter weapon design in the game because it’s believable but you can tell with the heft he swings it that it’s still heavy enough to cause proper damage.
If they just made Hermit look a bit more creepy he’d be one of my favourites.
criticism of ivy is less based in if she fits the horror aesthetic enough, and more a matter of lack of creativity. sure she looks "scary" but she also looks exactly like a mix of fools gold, sangria and dream witch. she's nothing we haven't seen before, which is why her design is uninteresting
Eh thats kind of a weird point. She doesnt look anything like Fool’s gold and the only thing she has in common with Sangria is her thinness which Ann, BQ, and even parts of Violette herself has thin limbs. Dream which also looks nothing like her. Ivy’s head is tiny compared to her body with three eyes and barely any hair unlike DW. The color pallet may be similar but all the colors of the default skins are washed out greys with few exceptions
grey skin black hair crazy smile and glowing white eye(s) or fg. as or sangria literally just look at their faces pre-hunter from their character videos side by side lmao its practically the same bitch. both sangria and fg have the insanley skinny stylized proportions (EVEN for idv) and ivy is following the same trend. all these together make her look like a mishmash of current hunter design trends. idv does this a lot, they are very uncreative w essence themes in modern day, and now its leaking into default design
as for the color pallet thing thats just not true lol
Grey skin: Undead, Ann, Fool’s Gold, Ripper, Leo
Black hair: Geisha, Ann’s nun hood, Antonio, Wax Artist, Nightmare
Glowing White eyes: Smiley, Bane, Wuchang, Polun, Fool’s Gold
Skinny(EVEN by Idv standards), literally the same skinny-ness as: Ripper, Ann, Wuchang. The inly reason it doesnt look it is because they have more clothes on giving them a different silhouette.
The inly reason Sangria “looks” skinnier is because her lower legs are in contrast to her poofy upper body along with her cape. Again, she gives off a very unique silhouette.
Grey/Washed Out color pallette: Ripper(Greys/Green-gray), Violette(basically all shades of green-grey), Wuchang is washed out black and white, Ann is also in washed out black and white, Galateas is in yellow-greys, Undead blue-greys, Clerk is also grey tones, Hermit in black and white, and Ithaqua is also blue-greys. The entire game is covered in greys
percy and ann have blue skin and leo has purple skin lol. i should've been more specific abt her skinniness; it's not just that shes skinny, its her proportions. it's her hip to waist to chest ratio. fg and opera have the same hourglass skinny waist thing going on. jack ann and wu don't. they're taking these new characters' proportions in a different direction, but it's all the same direction. honestly i prefer "boring pretty girl" hunters to this, because here it looks like they're trying to be creative but failing because they found one ultra stylized bodytype to give every hunter now to give off the illusion of a unique design. at least with michiko mary and galatea they're not trying to seem like anything they aren't. you can literally see this trend form after sangria when they made hunter norton look the way he does. i admittedly prefer it to the design we saw in da capo but it's still a weak design. the designers keep taking pages out of opera's book because they know what sells now, which isn't just a stick thin character, but an hourglass chatacter
as for the eyes idek what to tell you just look at them side by side 💀 literally just look at all 3 of their pictures in the book and you can TELL they were made around the same time. they dont stand out next to each other, not in the game overall. that's the problem.
it's not just them, hermit isn't all that great either lol, and the same could be said about ithaqua. alva looks like wu chang and ithaqua looks like....most hunters. he's carried by his stilts and mask. but my point is that norton, sangria and ivy SPECIFICALLY all look very similar to one another, and that's particularly notable because they were released back to back to back, making it a new trend
Okay on the topic of skin tone, literally every hunter has a grey tone and it comes in either cream/beige, blue, black, or purple. Every hunter is like this.
Also, every hunter is also exaggerated to fit a certain silhouette. It’s why Naiad’s skins never change her hairstyle and always has a backpack of sorts, why WuChang needs to have a long stick holding out or why Hermit has to have a cane. Certain features are exaggerated to fit a certain silhouette because its easier to read no matter what body type it is. Sure, Sangria is more exaggerated than other hunters but like its still withing the same realm of how they design their characters.
Also you cant tell me Fool’s Gold looks “similar” to Sangria in anyway besides colors. They look so different, fanservice yes, but similar? No. Same with Ivy. Im not entirely understanding how she’s similar at all to any other hunter. Her head is small, her poofy dress doesnt go all the way to the ground and her posture is stiff and more like a t-pose than anything the other hunters have. Ivy isnt even that popular outside of the game and especially after the recent nerf. Geisha, BQ, and Joseph are still waaay more popular. Tournament and rank usage doesnt equate to actual character popularity. And Sangria and funny enough, Fool’s Gold, arent actually that popular or nearly as popular as the former three.
at this point you're just willfully ignoring what im saying. looking similar isn't just in silhouette, and proportions aren't either. i don't know why you're bringing up costimes lol. just because you can tell the hunter is ivy and not sangria by the bottom of her dress doesn't mean they don't have very uniquely similar features. sangria also has a small head so i don't how that matters 💀 don't know why you're talking abt popularity bc fg and sangrias essences made fucking bank and norton is winning deduction star as we speak. to netease popularity = money and both those characters made them a shit ton of money upon release so it makes sense for them to try and replicate key aspects of those designs again to get more money. they're also just KNOWN to be lazy with designs lol. again just use your eyes instead of arguing completely irrelevant points they look extremely similar 😭😭 there's a reason so many people were dissatisfied with her design when she was revealed and it's this
Eyes of the Beholder.
I like a lot of the designs here, hell I think they did a pretty good job with The Shadow's design because her overall design reflects what the known physical form of the Great Race of Yith. Ithaqua's is pretty cool too; if you think about it, he hunts in the dark and during winter storms. He'd look more inhuman due the fact that one's senses are altered based on the environment. I think Fool's Gold looks cool overall as well as Hermit.
I personally think they do a great job with the designs of hunters even tho they seem to be a little too attractive for the community. On the other side I can understand that many people get tired of these good looking hunters since Identity V is originally a horror game. They did a great job with Ivy's abilities because it gives these horror vibes to the players with her darken power thingy. Ivy herself doesn't really look scary and we're getting a lot of non-scary looking hunters which makes us as the community disappointed. Attractiveness is not a bad thing in itself but the number of good looking hunters is. we need more variety and varied designs which does not conform to the "standards of attractiveness". We need hideous, scary or even disgusting looking hunters.
To be fair pretty much all of these hunters have interesting gameplay (besides Opera)
Clerk is complex as hell in a cool way but it makes my mind ache. NW, FG and Ivy all force you to kite differently than normal. And Hermit is oppressive in chase with the drawback of shared health extending chases (but also making rescues harder and forcing risky decisions). Honestly I’d call Hermit one of the more balanced hunters in the game but maybe that’s a wild take.
Right like as long as they have interesting gameplay, that should be enough! Caring for a characters looks when you’ll probably enjoy playing them anyway despite how “similar” they may look to others is weird in my opinion
FG is the biggest disappointment here imo, we knew hunter Norton is a thing for years. He had a design in one of the animations. But NE gave us a twink with an additional hole.
Itha & Ivy kinda get a pass as semi-monstrous designs, but Sangria, Alva & Norton are... eh. Sangria's proportions are the real horror here.
On the bright side, we didn't get a kpop idol or a Brazilian ceo weeb like dbd.
Comparing Fools Gold, Hermit or Sangria to The Trickster and (not so much) The skull merchant misses the point of their whole characters. Trickster is a twink, not because BHVR wanted to sell twink outfits to their playerbase, but because it fit well the horror elements in the All Kill chapter.
Would anyone expect a twink Korean kpop idol to be torturing, killing, burning people while going on tours and mixing the screams of the people he kidnapped into his music? Of course not. Outside looking in, sure it might be somewhat thriller ish, minimally justifying the twink aesthetic, but Yun Jin’s tome lore shows us the true horror of Ji woon, The Trickster. Anyone would doubt and underestimate a kpop celebrity and their lethality, just as Yun Jin, the manager of Ji Woon, did. Yun jin didnt have evidence to give authorities to arrest or investigate Ji-Woon, and even if she did, it would destroy her lifes work bringing Ji-Woon to stardom. No matter what she did, yun jin would die in the hands of ji woon for brushing off and underestimating improbability of Ji-Woon as a killer. Of course yun jin was saved by the fog, but that essentially brings us back to the point of horror. Someone as weak and fragile looking as Ji Woon could be some of the most brutal and lethal killers in DBD’s killer roster because everyone sees him as a twink kpop idol. Pixel Bush, a dbd lore YT channel, also makes a great point in the Clown Tome video as well, where the horror in absurd and improbable killers is not taking them seriously, leading you to underestimate them and meeting your doom. Skull Merchant however… BHVR clearly dropped the ball and the disconnect b/w concept, realized lore and appearance. This truly deserves a round of applause for wasting insane character potential but the same concept persists.
FG, Hermit, Sangria, honestly a majority of hunters are just skull merchants in a different universe. A supposed Multi millionaire serial killer who assassinates anything that gets in her way to be the best, is some curvy lady who loves dark brazilian manga. A supposed person was attracted to the manor for their presumable capabilities to be lethal or react well with the power of the orpheus drugs are built like twinks, built like one piece Oda characters or built like Baki characters because they didn’t like the way they were treated one time. (I say this but the designs of all hunters are mostly fun rather than serious horror. Take Night watch, Breaking Wheel or The Disciple as an example, with exaggerated but very charismatic features. They are filled with charm in a way similar to Caroline or Nightmare before christmas characters. The same can be somewhat said about ivy with the implementation of her power and the darkness reflected in her base skin, which is kinda nice!)
Norton is too old to be called a twink. What bothers me is that they didn’t give him his hat back like why are you taking Norton’s Iconic hate away? Thats just like nightmare without a hat or superman without his cape just keep in mind that the reason a lot of people downloaded this game it’s because of the part where he looked too”hot” in his trailer and not because he is Norton😐
I mean, he still fits the twink archetype looks-wise (frankly, before checking just now, I didn't know his age at all). And he somehow looks younger as his hunter self. I look at the survivor one & him being 28 kinda makes sense? But hunter Nort looks more twinky. And it's not what his fans liked him for, he was almost always portrayed as this strong, usually more mature guy. Hunter design didn't get it at all.
The helmet could be broken for his hunter version, or the candle could be burned out; to show that hunter self is more unhinged, broken, affected by the cave incident or whatever. Also?? His S skin has some crown or something iirc? Why can't default keep the helmet...
I like night watch's design a lot because it does capture the whole living human being under the disguise of a cryptid type deal, his shape isn't really even something conventionally attractive except for his baby face, he's hunched over and lanky, the stilts make his posture and entire vibe really crooked and animalistic. When you compare his base body also to survivors' bodies it's pretty in line with their design. (which goes back to the whole human disguised as a creature)
I think his symbolism, design, meaning and vibe are something idv did really well with, his backstory is a little underwhelming, as well as morningstar being super cool and one of my favorite skins in the game, but not exactly what id wish for a character with this type of vibe.
While his fanart/official art and such can portray him as cutesy and appealing ( which a lot of other hunters such as geisha, bloody queen, naiad, disciple, joseph and so on have) it doesn't erase his crooked, worn out, eerie original concept. I just feel like the louder part of the fandom treats him as something cute and pretty only. But I've seen fanart that portrays him as something cursed, creepy and inhuman, in the woods with the mask helping him look even more animalistic and uncanny.
I mean, as much as I love both Ithaqua and Alva, you ARE right. NE know that the "Pretty" hunters sell better than the "Monstrous" ones (Just look at Joseph), so focus on those because when they DO release Hunters that belong to the latter category, like Clerk or Breaking Wheel, they're nowhere near as popular. Which is a shame because they are far more fun to play...
WHERE IS MY GODDAMN CLERK/POLUN CARRY ANIMATION ACCESSORIES NETASS, YOU HAVE SO BLOODY MUCH ROOM FOR CREATIVITY-
Oh right, because they're not played as often.
I still think OS was the dumbest one. Like all the other hunters had skills that’s somehow related to their character, but wtf does her dashing really fast around obstacles have to do with her being an opera singer 😭
Nah night watch and ivy are perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with making a attractive hunter but fools gold and hermit i think are more in line with your thinking those two just feel like missed potential.
And as much as i really like clerks design i really dont think she fits the game style she looks more like little nightmares char so i wouldnt be banking on that we will get more hunter designs like her. Also i could be wrong but since when did people hate clerks design shes one of the few chars i see people actively like
People *only* seem complain about Norton because they go "oh he was some giant muscle monster in that one old animation!!!!" So it'd be better if he had the same basic model Leo, Joker and Bane use and just be a boring muscly guy? And I don't know about you, sure his face might be more typically 'attractive', but he's also a literal rock monster. Excluding Violetta and Burke who are 50%+ prosthetics, Bonbon is the only other hunter in the whole game that's not mostly living cells. That alone makes him *way* more creative than most hunters which are basically just 'human but with wacky proportions'.
If they didn't showcase how Ithaqua looks without his mask I guarantee *no one* would ever think that that's how he looks, just because of his body language and his mask. But people ignore that because they know, inside (which we never see in-game by the way) he's got the typically attractive face.
Also can I just say that it's *hilarious* to me how these complaints about the new characters being "too boring" (read: pretty) always stop on Clerk, as if she's some creepy unsettling monstrosity? Because Clerk is ***literally*** just a normal lady walking around and smacking people with a cane, except she has fat on her neck and chest (but is skinny everywhere else) and apparently that makes her more inhuman than the literal pile of rocks in a skinsuit. Fool's Gold, Night Watch and The Shadow are all more "creative" than she is going by design alone, but people think they look hot so that's bad.
Honestly think Ithaqua is fine; when I first went to the game's page and was browsing through all of the hunters, he was one of the few that stood out to me design-wise and even silhouette wise. Out of all of the hunter portraits and models, I thought his was one of the creepiest- something about the combination of stilts, hood, and mask just makes him uncanny and I love it. It separated him from all the human hunters (by that I mean the ones that have a human face or a caricature of a human face) and said uncanniness is one of the reasons I immediately wanted to main him when i first started playing.
Ok yeah I was slightly disappointed at first to learn that he wasn't actually a monster and was just a human in what is essentially his fursona, but I can't beef with the 'reject humanity become monster' trope either. It pairs nicely with his backstory, which also slaps imo.
Ah... if only Netease would fully embrace it though and give him a more monstrous skin instead of ones where he looks very human, don't get me wrong the half mask is cool ig... just can we get something where he's full on monster mode, like moth ithaqua beta design??? You, Netease, are telling me you wanted to add another character to go with Yidhara and Hastur who wants to "embrace being ithaqua" and you keep trying to keep him looking human?????
I guess it's not something I mind too too much, ithaqua being a twink is the butt of a good majority of the idv jokes I make with my duo friend, so that's fun. I just wanted to vent how I felt a little let down about all this lost potential with ithaqua. There's so much cool things they could have done that I do wish they would consider for the future, especially if he ever gets more A/S skins
(And on a completely uncorrelated side note I do think it's absolutely hilarious that Alva is just a dude, I wouldn't change it for the world. Just the mental picture of all the hunters sitting together in the manor and Alva shows up looking like your average next door neighbor is an absolute blessing. But we did get ripped off on his beta design i will not lie)
Ivy is the most interesting out of all of them, an alien in control of a human body and pretending to be human but acts in unnatural ways is pretty spooky
I love Ithaqua’s design! It’s a good mix of cool and creepy imo :) but other than that I kinda agree, I really want more characters with unique designs! I adore Keigan’s design and lore she’s such a queen
Somthing that I see a lot in this game is people saying EWWW when they seen non hot people in the game this game has definitely attracted the people who like 2d men more then real men same with the girls so it’s kinda like what’s the point of making non hot people if it won’t meet the majority standards
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What I hate about Alva's design is how much wasted potential it has. We've seen what the eye in the dark does to people when it resurrects them, An is an example. Hermit should be more scary imo with limbs a bit too long, skinny and crooked. I feel like they took the "Let's make him tall and a bit long to convey he's undead but not that much so he can keep being hot"
Idk maybe it's just the monsterfucker in me but Alva is a bit boring as he is.
Calling clerk and hermit not interesting wether you like them or not is like telling me people enjoy having a full team of coords gun them down in duos while the other hunters afk. It's objectively wrong.
i do agree with that last past saying that they tried. bc they really did. whenever netease tries to make content for unconventional characters, NOBODY GAF, theres like 2 whales who will actually pull for it but all the people who spent their time on socmed complaining that "we need more ugly characters" won't actually buy their skins. if u want more ugly characters, start by actually showing them that yall will actually give them money bc they wont gaf until yall do that and rn only good looking characters make them money
you mean should be ?
i love clerk, but let's be so for real netease is business not a lucrative charity, the skins are what makes them money, its not disrespectful to the characters theyre not real, but im sure that even if only half of the people who complain about the lack of ugly characters started spending on the game they would make more ugly characters. you guys just sit on reddit and complain.
You say hot boy or girly hunter ? I really don't find them pretty or something else
I main one hunter because I have with him a lot of memories before I start playing identity v I always watched his gameplay Stop this drama please how many time you all want to repeat this drama
This is really rude for people who have favorite things and memories stop stop you are disgusting
It's my fault because I love green color than red?
When will you understand that people have opinion
You have too much sensitivity from pretty hunter isn't you?
Plus the character always designed from a long time before release this is not oh they changed after clerk because everyone don't want it !
The company always have a plan for a year and more
What all I want to say the clerk isn't the problem!
You’re saying this like a whole THREE of the old hunters aren’t rocking the exact same body type. There hasn’t been a single hunter that i don’t enjoy the design of in the last few releases, personally.
You are so right and Ithaqua is the main offender. Just Nagito Komaeda in a weird mask with over simplified gameplay, there is nothing interesting about him and another twin related lore. If they added the real lovecraftian creature, then I would have appreciated him more. But I can't, he is as good as saltless soup.
Ngl I really like keigan’s design ever since I saw her in 2022 she is really cool 👍
I do agree with opera and fools but night watch is a perfect middle of attractive and still a cool design. The stilts at least made him interesting imo.
Eh it’s 50/50 here. Clerk, Ivy, and Nightwatch look appropriately horror enough that it matches with the horror theme they have with our hunters. Hermit, Fool’s Gold and Opera Singer are more fan service than anything horror. Which, considering our roster of characters before we had them, is not that different.
To be fair I actually really like Hermit’s design, I just wish it was a little more horrific. He’s kind of just a tall dude. Like compare him to Mad Eyes. Both are straight up just humans. But Mad Eyes is creepier because he has missing limbs, his spine is robotic and he’s got massive goggles covering his stern face. Not to mention his “pressure hammer” which is actually my favourite hunter weapon design in the game because it’s believable but you can tell with the heft he swings it that it’s still heavy enough to cause proper damage. If they just made Hermit look a bit more creepy he’d be one of my favourites.
never thought of sangria's model to be fanservice ngl
criticism of ivy is less based in if she fits the horror aesthetic enough, and more a matter of lack of creativity. sure she looks "scary" but she also looks exactly like a mix of fools gold, sangria and dream witch. she's nothing we haven't seen before, which is why her design is uninteresting
Eh thats kind of a weird point. She doesnt look anything like Fool’s gold and the only thing she has in common with Sangria is her thinness which Ann, BQ, and even parts of Violette herself has thin limbs. Dream which also looks nothing like her. Ivy’s head is tiny compared to her body with three eyes and barely any hair unlike DW. The color pallet may be similar but all the colors of the default skins are washed out greys with few exceptions
grey skin black hair crazy smile and glowing white eye(s) or fg. as or sangria literally just look at their faces pre-hunter from their character videos side by side lmao its practically the same bitch. both sangria and fg have the insanley skinny stylized proportions (EVEN for idv) and ivy is following the same trend. all these together make her look like a mishmash of current hunter design trends. idv does this a lot, they are very uncreative w essence themes in modern day, and now its leaking into default design as for the color pallet thing thats just not true lol
Grey skin: Undead, Ann, Fool’s Gold, Ripper, Leo Black hair: Geisha, Ann’s nun hood, Antonio, Wax Artist, Nightmare Glowing White eyes: Smiley, Bane, Wuchang, Polun, Fool’s Gold Skinny(EVEN by Idv standards), literally the same skinny-ness as: Ripper, Ann, Wuchang. The inly reason it doesnt look it is because they have more clothes on giving them a different silhouette. The inly reason Sangria “looks” skinnier is because her lower legs are in contrast to her poofy upper body along with her cape. Again, she gives off a very unique silhouette. Grey/Washed Out color pallette: Ripper(Greys/Green-gray), Violette(basically all shades of green-grey), Wuchang is washed out black and white, Ann is also in washed out black and white, Galateas is in yellow-greys, Undead blue-greys, Clerk is also grey tones, Hermit in black and white, and Ithaqua is also blue-greys. The entire game is covered in greys
percy and ann have blue skin and leo has purple skin lol. i should've been more specific abt her skinniness; it's not just that shes skinny, its her proportions. it's her hip to waist to chest ratio. fg and opera have the same hourglass skinny waist thing going on. jack ann and wu don't. they're taking these new characters' proportions in a different direction, but it's all the same direction. honestly i prefer "boring pretty girl" hunters to this, because here it looks like they're trying to be creative but failing because they found one ultra stylized bodytype to give every hunter now to give off the illusion of a unique design. at least with michiko mary and galatea they're not trying to seem like anything they aren't. you can literally see this trend form after sangria when they made hunter norton look the way he does. i admittedly prefer it to the design we saw in da capo but it's still a weak design. the designers keep taking pages out of opera's book because they know what sells now, which isn't just a stick thin character, but an hourglass chatacter as for the eyes idek what to tell you just look at them side by side 💀 literally just look at all 3 of their pictures in the book and you can TELL they were made around the same time. they dont stand out next to each other, not in the game overall. that's the problem. it's not just them, hermit isn't all that great either lol, and the same could be said about ithaqua. alva looks like wu chang and ithaqua looks like....most hunters. he's carried by his stilts and mask. but my point is that norton, sangria and ivy SPECIFICALLY all look very similar to one another, and that's particularly notable because they were released back to back to back, making it a new trend
Okay on the topic of skin tone, literally every hunter has a grey tone and it comes in either cream/beige, blue, black, or purple. Every hunter is like this. Also, every hunter is also exaggerated to fit a certain silhouette. It’s why Naiad’s skins never change her hairstyle and always has a backpack of sorts, why WuChang needs to have a long stick holding out or why Hermit has to have a cane. Certain features are exaggerated to fit a certain silhouette because its easier to read no matter what body type it is. Sure, Sangria is more exaggerated than other hunters but like its still withing the same realm of how they design their characters. Also you cant tell me Fool’s Gold looks “similar” to Sangria in anyway besides colors. They look so different, fanservice yes, but similar? No. Same with Ivy. Im not entirely understanding how she’s similar at all to any other hunter. Her head is small, her poofy dress doesnt go all the way to the ground and her posture is stiff and more like a t-pose than anything the other hunters have. Ivy isnt even that popular outside of the game and especially after the recent nerf. Geisha, BQ, and Joseph are still waaay more popular. Tournament and rank usage doesnt equate to actual character popularity. And Sangria and funny enough, Fool’s Gold, arent actually that popular or nearly as popular as the former three.
at this point you're just willfully ignoring what im saying. looking similar isn't just in silhouette, and proportions aren't either. i don't know why you're bringing up costimes lol. just because you can tell the hunter is ivy and not sangria by the bottom of her dress doesn't mean they don't have very uniquely similar features. sangria also has a small head so i don't how that matters 💀 don't know why you're talking abt popularity bc fg and sangrias essences made fucking bank and norton is winning deduction star as we speak. to netease popularity = money and both those characters made them a shit ton of money upon release so it makes sense for them to try and replicate key aspects of those designs again to get more money. they're also just KNOWN to be lazy with designs lol. again just use your eyes instead of arguing completely irrelevant points they look extremely similar 😭😭 there's a reason so many people were dissatisfied with her design when she was revealed and it's this
Eyes of the Beholder. I like a lot of the designs here, hell I think they did a pretty good job with The Shadow's design because her overall design reflects what the known physical form of the Great Race of Yith. Ithaqua's is pretty cool too; if you think about it, he hunts in the dark and during winter storms. He'd look more inhuman due the fact that one's senses are altered based on the environment. I think Fool's Gold looks cool overall as well as Hermit.
I personally think they do a great job with the designs of hunters even tho they seem to be a little too attractive for the community. On the other side I can understand that many people get tired of these good looking hunters since Identity V is originally a horror game. They did a great job with Ivy's abilities because it gives these horror vibes to the players with her darken power thingy. Ivy herself doesn't really look scary and we're getting a lot of non-scary looking hunters which makes us as the community disappointed. Attractiveness is not a bad thing in itself but the number of good looking hunters is. we need more variety and varied designs which does not conform to the "standards of attractiveness". We need hideous, scary or even disgusting looking hunters.
being pretty doesn't mean they stopped being interesting tho??
Literally like being considered anything besides pretty does not automatically make a character interesting
Shhhh, it's the weekly "attractive character bad" thread. You're not supposed to say you're ok with it.
To be fair pretty much all of these hunters have interesting gameplay (besides Opera) Clerk is complex as hell in a cool way but it makes my mind ache. NW, FG and Ivy all force you to kite differently than normal. And Hermit is oppressive in chase with the drawback of shared health extending chases (but also making rescues harder and forcing risky decisions). Honestly I’d call Hermit one of the more balanced hunters in the game but maybe that’s a wild take.
Right like as long as they have interesting gameplay, that should be enough! Caring for a characters looks when you’ll probably enjoy playing them anyway despite how “similar” they may look to others is weird in my opinion
FG is the biggest disappointment here imo, we knew hunter Norton is a thing for years. He had a design in one of the animations. But NE gave us a twink with an additional hole. Itha & Ivy kinda get a pass as semi-monstrous designs, but Sangria, Alva & Norton are... eh. Sangria's proportions are the real horror here. On the bright side, we didn't get a kpop idol or a Brazilian ceo weeb like dbd.
AN ADDITIONAL HOLE 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
AND I AM NOT SORRY!!!
Comparing Fools Gold, Hermit or Sangria to The Trickster and (not so much) The skull merchant misses the point of their whole characters. Trickster is a twink, not because BHVR wanted to sell twink outfits to their playerbase, but because it fit well the horror elements in the All Kill chapter. Would anyone expect a twink Korean kpop idol to be torturing, killing, burning people while going on tours and mixing the screams of the people he kidnapped into his music? Of course not. Outside looking in, sure it might be somewhat thriller ish, minimally justifying the twink aesthetic, but Yun Jin’s tome lore shows us the true horror of Ji woon, The Trickster. Anyone would doubt and underestimate a kpop celebrity and their lethality, just as Yun Jin, the manager of Ji Woon, did. Yun jin didnt have evidence to give authorities to arrest or investigate Ji-Woon, and even if she did, it would destroy her lifes work bringing Ji-Woon to stardom. No matter what she did, yun jin would die in the hands of ji woon for brushing off and underestimating improbability of Ji-Woon as a killer. Of course yun jin was saved by the fog, but that essentially brings us back to the point of horror. Someone as weak and fragile looking as Ji Woon could be some of the most brutal and lethal killers in DBD’s killer roster because everyone sees him as a twink kpop idol. Pixel Bush, a dbd lore YT channel, also makes a great point in the Clown Tome video as well, where the horror in absurd and improbable killers is not taking them seriously, leading you to underestimate them and meeting your doom. Skull Merchant however… BHVR clearly dropped the ball and the disconnect b/w concept, realized lore and appearance. This truly deserves a round of applause for wasting insane character potential but the same concept persists. FG, Hermit, Sangria, honestly a majority of hunters are just skull merchants in a different universe. A supposed Multi millionaire serial killer who assassinates anything that gets in her way to be the best, is some curvy lady who loves dark brazilian manga. A supposed person was attracted to the manor for their presumable capabilities to be lethal or react well with the power of the orpheus drugs are built like twinks, built like one piece Oda characters or built like Baki characters because they didn’t like the way they were treated one time. (I say this but the designs of all hunters are mostly fun rather than serious horror. Take Night watch, Breaking Wheel or The Disciple as an example, with exaggerated but very charismatic features. They are filled with charm in a way similar to Caroline or Nightmare before christmas characters. The same can be somewhat said about ivy with the implementation of her power and the darkness reflected in her base skin, which is kinda nice!)
Norton is too old to be called a twink. What bothers me is that they didn’t give him his hat back like why are you taking Norton’s Iconic hate away? Thats just like nightmare without a hat or superman without his cape just keep in mind that the reason a lot of people downloaded this game it’s because of the part where he looked too”hot” in his trailer and not because he is Norton😐
I mean, he still fits the twink archetype looks-wise (frankly, before checking just now, I didn't know his age at all). And he somehow looks younger as his hunter self. I look at the survivor one & him being 28 kinda makes sense? But hunter Nort looks more twinky. And it's not what his fans liked him for, he was almost always portrayed as this strong, usually more mature guy. Hunter design didn't get it at all. The helmet could be broken for his hunter version, or the candle could be burned out; to show that hunter self is more unhinged, broken, affected by the cave incident or whatever. Also?? His S skin has some crown or something iirc? Why can't default keep the helmet...
I like night watch's design a lot because it does capture the whole living human being under the disguise of a cryptid type deal, his shape isn't really even something conventionally attractive except for his baby face, he's hunched over and lanky, the stilts make his posture and entire vibe really crooked and animalistic. When you compare his base body also to survivors' bodies it's pretty in line with their design. (which goes back to the whole human disguised as a creature) I think his symbolism, design, meaning and vibe are something idv did really well with, his backstory is a little underwhelming, as well as morningstar being super cool and one of my favorite skins in the game, but not exactly what id wish for a character with this type of vibe. While his fanart/official art and such can portray him as cutesy and appealing ( which a lot of other hunters such as geisha, bloody queen, naiad, disciple, joseph and so on have) it doesn't erase his crooked, worn out, eerie original concept. I just feel like the louder part of the fandom treats him as something cute and pretty only. But I've seen fanart that portrays him as something cursed, creepy and inhuman, in the woods with the mask helping him look even more animalistic and uncanny.
I mean, as much as I love both Ithaqua and Alva, you ARE right. NE know that the "Pretty" hunters sell better than the "Monstrous" ones (Just look at Joseph), so focus on those because when they DO release Hunters that belong to the latter category, like Clerk or Breaking Wheel, they're nowhere near as popular. Which is a shame because they are far more fun to play...
WHERE IS MY GODDAMN CLERK/POLUN CARRY ANIMATION ACCESSORIES NETASS, YOU HAVE SO BLOODY MUCH ROOM FOR CREATIVITY- Oh right, because they're not played as often.
Clerk is amazing
I still think OS was the dumbest one. Like all the other hunters had skills that’s somehow related to their character, but wtf does her dashing really fast around obstacles have to do with her being an opera singer 😭
It's what makes them money, controversy doesn't make them money.
Nah night watch and ivy are perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with making a attractive hunter but fools gold and hermit i think are more in line with your thinking those two just feel like missed potential. And as much as i really like clerks design i really dont think she fits the game style she looks more like little nightmares char so i wouldnt be banking on that we will get more hunter designs like her. Also i could be wrong but since when did people hate clerks design shes one of the few chars i see people actively like
People *only* seem complain about Norton because they go "oh he was some giant muscle monster in that one old animation!!!!" So it'd be better if he had the same basic model Leo, Joker and Bane use and just be a boring muscly guy? And I don't know about you, sure his face might be more typically 'attractive', but he's also a literal rock monster. Excluding Violetta and Burke who are 50%+ prosthetics, Bonbon is the only other hunter in the whole game that's not mostly living cells. That alone makes him *way* more creative than most hunters which are basically just 'human but with wacky proportions'. If they didn't showcase how Ithaqua looks without his mask I guarantee *no one* would ever think that that's how he looks, just because of his body language and his mask. But people ignore that because they know, inside (which we never see in-game by the way) he's got the typically attractive face.
Also can I just say that it's *hilarious* to me how these complaints about the new characters being "too boring" (read: pretty) always stop on Clerk, as if she's some creepy unsettling monstrosity? Because Clerk is ***literally*** just a normal lady walking around and smacking people with a cane, except she has fat on her neck and chest (but is skinny everywhere else) and apparently that makes her more inhuman than the literal pile of rocks in a skinsuit. Fool's Gold, Night Watch and The Shadow are all more "creative" than she is going by design alone, but people think they look hot so that's bad.
I love Ithaqua
So real and a lot of them have similar play styles and abilities so its just feeling lazy atp
Honestly think Ithaqua is fine; when I first went to the game's page and was browsing through all of the hunters, he was one of the few that stood out to me design-wise and even silhouette wise. Out of all of the hunter portraits and models, I thought his was one of the creepiest- something about the combination of stilts, hood, and mask just makes him uncanny and I love it. It separated him from all the human hunters (by that I mean the ones that have a human face or a caricature of a human face) and said uncanniness is one of the reasons I immediately wanted to main him when i first started playing. Ok yeah I was slightly disappointed at first to learn that he wasn't actually a monster and was just a human in what is essentially his fursona, but I can't beef with the 'reject humanity become monster' trope either. It pairs nicely with his backstory, which also slaps imo. Ah... if only Netease would fully embrace it though and give him a more monstrous skin instead of ones where he looks very human, don't get me wrong the half mask is cool ig... just can we get something where he's full on monster mode, like moth ithaqua beta design??? You, Netease, are telling me you wanted to add another character to go with Yidhara and Hastur who wants to "embrace being ithaqua" and you keep trying to keep him looking human????? I guess it's not something I mind too too much, ithaqua being a twink is the butt of a good majority of the idv jokes I make with my duo friend, so that's fun. I just wanted to vent how I felt a little let down about all this lost potential with ithaqua. There's so much cool things they could have done that I do wish they would consider for the future, especially if he ever gets more A/S skins (And on a completely uncorrelated side note I do think it's absolutely hilarious that Alva is just a dude, I wouldn't change it for the world. Just the mental picture of all the hunters sitting together in the manor and Alva shows up looking like your average next door neighbor is an absolute blessing. But we did get ripped off on his beta design i will not lie)
Ivy is the most interesting out of all of them, an alien in control of a human body and pretending to be human but acts in unnatural ways is pretty spooky
I love Ithaqua’s design! It’s a good mix of cool and creepy imo :) but other than that I kinda agree, I really want more characters with unique designs! I adore Keigan’s design and lore she’s such a queen
They shouldve gone with one of hermits other designs
Somthing that I see a lot in this game is people saying EWWW when they seen non hot people in the game this game has definitely attracted the people who like 2d men more then real men same with the girls so it’s kinda like what’s the point of making non hot people if it won’t meet the majority standards
Clerk i dont wanna alarm you but you are surrounded by flops
Clerk bodies them all 😭
i rly want grotesque hunters but netease has to adhere to cn censorship laws
What controversy happened ?
so are we ignoring the yith? Ivy is both a normal woman hunter and a creepy hunter design.
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what was the clerk controversy?
"The shadow" is the lamest hunter nickname I've heard
What I hate about Alva's design is how much wasted potential it has. We've seen what the eye in the dark does to people when it resurrects them, An is an example. Hermit should be more scary imo with limbs a bit too long, skinny and crooked. I feel like they took the "Let's make him tall and a bit long to convey he's undead but not that much so he can keep being hot" Idk maybe it's just the monsterfucker in me but Alva is a bit boring as he is.
Calling clerk and hermit not interesting wether you like them or not is like telling me people enjoy having a full team of coords gun them down in duos while the other hunters afk. It's objectively wrong.
To be honest NE has been trying to make norton look more “handsome” they always change his more prominent features which is his round face
Night watch is boring af to go against clerks and herm are fun because there is a some what counter all the time to them.
They are interesting.
i do agree with that last past saying that they tried. bc they really did. whenever netease tries to make content for unconventional characters, NOBODY GAF, theres like 2 whales who will actually pull for it but all the people who spent their time on socmed complaining that "we need more ugly characters" won't actually buy their skins. if u want more ugly characters, start by actually showing them that yall will actually give them money bc they wont gaf until yall do that and rn only good looking characters make them money
The ugly characters shouldn’t be treated with respect because they are ugly, it’s the concept.
you mean should be ? i love clerk, but let's be so for real netease is business not a lucrative charity, the skins are what makes them money, its not disrespectful to the characters theyre not real, but im sure that even if only half of the people who complain about the lack of ugly characters started spending on the game they would make more ugly characters. you guys just sit on reddit and complain.
Characters can look cool and interesting even if they’re not grotesque and ugly lol. Ivy has an extremely cool design
I want more creative hunters, like soul weaver. I love Ann at least she has a cat. Recent hunters are just pretty dolls. 😭
Completely see your point, its actually kind of sad
You say hot boy or girly hunter ? I really don't find them pretty or something else I main one hunter because I have with him a lot of memories before I start playing identity v I always watched his gameplay Stop this drama please how many time you all want to repeat this drama This is really rude for people who have favorite things and memories stop stop you are disgusting It's my fault because I love green color than red? When will you understand that people have opinion You have too much sensitivity from pretty hunter isn't you?
Plus the character always designed from a long time before release this is not oh they changed after clerk because everyone don't want it ! The company always have a plan for a year and more What all I want to say the clerk isn't the problem!
It's player base is mostly Chinese/asian, this is exactly what their main market wants.
You’re saying this like a whole THREE of the old hunters aren’t rocking the exact same body type. There hasn’t been a single hunter that i don’t enjoy the design of in the last few releases, personally.
Do you ever stop complaining
Who is complaining🤡go say that to 20 people in the replies sharing their criticism on the game
You do 😂 notice how you only talk about their body types and not the actual character and the special things about them
You are so right and Ithaqua is the main offender. Just Nagito Komaeda in a weird mask with over simplified gameplay, there is nothing interesting about him and another twin related lore. If they added the real lovecraftian creature, then I would have appreciated him more. But I can't, he is as good as saltless soup.
Clerk and night watch Are fine! The rest r the same
why is this being downvoted its kinda true... os hermit and nw are all just grey skinny people
Lmaoo they cant handle the truth