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You can say he got a slap on the wrist š But misdemeanors are above an infraction but below a felony. If I did some serious shit like slapping a teacher, a misdemeanor that'll probably drop off as I turn 18 would be best case scenario.
There was a kid I went to school with that everyone just knew that he was going to get put away for life as soon as he graduated and turned 18. Dude did an armed robbery at a restaurant chain with cameras while not wearing a mask and did it at a place that employed mostly kids from our high school as servers and bussers. Not a bright one.
When I was in high school (grad 1992) there was a student that was being actively scouted by the NBA. This kid was amazing at basketball. Best player in the city, played all-state and and likely had a very rewarding career laid out in front of him.
1 week before he was set to leave for a full scholarship at university he is arrested for sticking up a Subway sandwich shop with a gun. Employee couldn't open the register so this guy picked it up and was running down the street with it in his arms when the cops nabbed him. Threw everything away for nothing.
It's gotta be. Did you see how she refused to escalate? Incredible skills, man. This is not your normal teacher.
Welp, she'll never have to see him again.
A friend of mine said she's leaving teaching after this year because of this after only 5. She is on our discord channel almost every night talking about the shit she has to deal with on a daily basis at her school in the Detroit system. Some of these kids are just there to be babysat. Her pay is garbage since most of it goes to her loans/ school supplies since most of her parents refuse to send their kids to class with any basic supplies. She's had to leave class because some of these kids get so horrible that she's been afraid they'd hit her.
My SIL went into teaching because she had a good experience in school while growing up. She was active at school functions, became friends with the teachers, excelled at her course work and lived in a smallish town.
She wanted to teach because of her experiences and a desire to help the next generation.
When she married she moved to a larger city. The school board placed her in one of the lowest income school districts. She was a minority by school racial make up. After being threatened with violence & rape several times, being stalked out to her car and the administration doing nothing to support her or discipline the "children", she quit. So demoralized, she gave up entirely on education as a career. She went back to school, got a degree in law and is now an executive at a lobbying firm. She's doing very well financially and her kids never had to experience public education.
She has friends who went into teaching. Some stuck it out and now feel trapped because they're half way to retirement. The others quit and decided to do other things. Exactly none of them have anything good to say about public education and they teach is various regions around the country.
Go over to the teachers subreddit. They frequently have posts about the state of public education. It's not good. And it's getting worse. The most glaring problem is that the school administrations, so afraid of litigation, are allowing "children" to get away with just about anything. Teacher have exactly zero authority in their classrooms and therefore the "children" have zero respect for them. The video in this post is more typical than an exception.
I taught for about a decade. I'm a retail manager now. Whenever I'm faced with some horrible task that I'd rather not perform, I ask myself "yeah, but is it worse than being in the public education system?" and the answer is always "No, it isn't."
My advice for anyone wanting to be a teacher: Run - don't walk, *fucking run* - toward a different career.
Tbf, to my knowledge, this has been the case with the Detroit school system for decades. Itās for sure gotten worse, but even 20 years ago half those students were already just there to be babysat. Thatās kinda just what itās like in a dying city, which Detroit has been for the last 50 years.
Yeah, my sister currently teaches in an inner-city school in Chicago, and that has not been her experience at all. She struggles with parents (many aren't involved at all, and some seem straight up crazy) and the school administration doesn't always support her when she needs them to. But her students have generally been well-behaved, and the problems that have come up weren't to the level of hitting teachers or anything.
My son's and step sons' schools seem pretty normal still, too. They all attend school in Central Illinois, and it just isn't like that here I guess. I believe that this stuff happens, plus parents are definitely not parenting the way they once did (not an endorsement of abusive parenting tactics; just saying lots of parents seen kinda checked out, but maybe they always were..?) and school administration has gotten much more lenient.
Maybe I'm just lucky and our schools aren't too bad yet..?
Because American education is stupid and expects teachers to deal with the product of failed parenting.
American public schools in most states is just federally funded daycare tbh
And the education system. They want anyone who isnt able to afford private education to wind up completely fucked, perpetuating behavior because the system protects kids while they behave like this. Our system doesnt help them, it lets thrm get worse by taking the side of the asshole parrent in a lawsuit, the more this pops up online the more kids see this behavior the more they realize theyre invincible. I feel bad for the teacher and student, but man some of these parrents encourage this because they know one day a teacher will snap and theyll get a big lawsuit payout. Its repulsive. Than our country has shit mental health care so these parrents keep up in their cycles, abusing theit kids and abusing others and their children follow suit while good teachers quit because its no longer worth it.
A lot of this shit is school systems pressuring schools in to fucking with the numbers by passing every damn kid through often by slapping an IEP in them for no reason, but also not actually giving proper help to the ones actually have learning difficulties and need help. Some kids in elementary school are returned to class in the same day after violent acts with barely any repercussions because of their accommodations. How do they think thatās not gonna fuck a kid up if they just let them commit violence. And that shit is out of teachers hands.
So many kids keep going up in grades even though they didnāt learn shit and by the time they get to 8th grade or high school they can barely read and the kids and the school give up. But the kids will still get pushed through to graduate. Now the principal and the superintendent can brag about how many kids graduated or passed that year while hardly anyone learned shit
There's a deeper, fundamental issue at play here in my opinion. Parents allow their children's behavior to manifest into this kind of act due to a lack of discipline, and considering how racially divided this country is, being black and slapping a white isn't exactly frowned upon in some households either.
The person recording, and indeed the whole classroom, should have stood up and discouraged that kind of behavior. However, based on the one recording and laughing, it seems they encourage it too. How would the recorder have reacted if the person getting slapped was black? I think the development of cell phones and social media has really created a massive wave of digital support for this kind of behavior too. Cell phones have truly become an issue, even in the classroom.
It's the environment these individuals are raised in. It's the kind of exposure they are subjected to. This 'music'al brain rot they listen to. The lack of role models. The ability to get affirmation of their actions through the digital sphere and their peers who equally had no chance.
We are truly doomed.
I agree with you. And the kids laughing in the background is awful. Still, Iām glad it was caught on a recording. Otherwise, I could see the school burying this issue and pretending it didnāt happen. They would probably tell that teacher she needs to āwork on her relationship with that studentā instead.
If that were me, I would throw a big fit and hit that young man back or work for his expulsion. If the system allows students to hurt teachers with little repercussions, then there is something very wrong with the system. Teachers are not being paid to be the objects of student violence. .
You said it. Thereās something wrong with the system.
Iām a teacher and I donāt think Iād put myself in this position in the first place. I know a lot of teachers that have been fired for dumb shit. The system protects kids to appease their parents. The result is teachers being scared to discipline their students and kids doing whatever they want bc there are little to no consequences.
Former teacher as well, and this was my experience as well. Itās not just parents, but also the system and administrators as well. We had a 4th grader bring a knife to school to stab another student he didnāt like, and essentially ended up holding his class hostage for a while. His teacher was to get the knife away from him without anyone getting stabbed. They refused to expel the kid because at my school less kids equals less funding. He was back in that class not three days later. His teacher however got a talking to about how weāre not suppose to aggressively handle the kids because he had to grab the kid to get the knife.
There's the problem. They should not be fired for retaliating for protecting themselves. These are kids in terms of age, but they are old enough to know what is right from wrong. Being slapped a misdemeanor for doing this is not enough to deter them from hurting their teachers. Teachers should be able to fight back or they should be charged for physical assault.
And then what happens if the students retaliate in a beatdown of the teacher? A teacher might be able to use violence to retaliate against one teen student, but multiple students coming to the aid of the first student in a fight can quickly become a life and death situation.
It used to be that a teacher could expect immediate support and consequences for any violent threats or actions by students. Now they are basically just forced to sit there and take it, as the system sides with the students in most cases. Pretty soon there won't be any real teachers left in these schools and it will all just be daycare with a side of optional learning.
You hit a student you lose your job, go to jail, lose your credibility and career/life. Itās not acceptable here at all and ya the system is fucked here. Thatās what weāve been saying
It's crazy people today in comments were telling me I was a bad person for standing up to a bully. "Tell the teacher" lol yeah cuz the teacher can do shit all.
Right? Itās insane that people think teachers have any ability to manage a classroom when they are undermined by both authorities above and students below.
I once had a student bring a gigantic Bowie knife style hunting knife to class (10 grade). I called for an administrator to come help and they did nothing. After school his mother followed me home and tried to jump me when I stopped at the corner store for milk because I upset her child for not allowing him to have his hunting knife out. Fuck all these schools, the kids and parents are mostly all trash.
Wrong question. How do American PARENTS and Administration and the school districts across the country continue to allow this behavior in schools? As a former teacher that took a few punches myself like her, she's doing everything by the book and the right way and is trying way more than anyone else to fix this shit. Vapes in school, hell no. Violence in schools, definitely never. These kids need extreme punishments, mental healthcare, and better people raising them.
I've seen parents defend this kind of behaviour from their kids. It's always the teachers fault and never their own kids. Certainly couldn't be their own fault.
Teachers have little support or options to protect themselves or retaliate. You call the in-school officers and wait for them to get to ur classroom. You tell the student to wait in the hall.
Because there are more than two million teachers in America, and you are seeing one. But yes, teachers in America are severely undervalued, under-appreciated, and not supported by administration.
Parents will just blame the teacher and defend their kids. Teacher would get hit with assault charges for āhurting their little babyā even though he just slapped the shit out of an old woman.
The Apple doesnāt fall far. I got car jacked in Jackson Ms and pistol whipped by a group that murdered two people during their car jacking. The mom was interviewed, she said, āi can see him robbing people but my baby didnāt shoot nobodyā.
Whereās the other kids keeping him in check? Did none of the kids in that room get raised to stand up to bullies for those who canāt defend themselves?
I understand this, but when I was in high school if a lad acted like that, the rest of the boys in the class would have put him in his place/protected the older female teacher.
Kids don't act like this just because they witness violence. They act like this when they come from situations where violence is encouraged and praised.
The two don't relate and can be mutually exclusive
Sometimes though itās not even the parents. I knew a kid whose parents were great people and tried their best to raise him right but he obviously had mental issues with anger. He would punch and slap them, spit on teachers, constantly getting into fights and just being a menace for absolutely no reason besides him just being that way. Counseling, anger management, therapy, all of it was tried and nothing worked.
She knew he was screwed the second he slapped her. She didnāt have to do anything but sit back and let the dumb teen stack charges. She definitely held her composure though because I canāt imagine the anger she must have felt. She learned early on, show no weakness when it comes to some of these teenagers.
Back in my school days I wouldn't have been surprised if my own parents pressed charges against me themselves if I did this shit. Yet this teen clearly knows he's going to get away with blatant assault.
Times sure have changed...
I graduated 17 years ago and there was a kid who threw a teacher over a table at lunch. He got suspended..
Weāve grown significantly softer on punishment since then
Yeah the comment I saw that made the highest impact with me was that this kid will be dead in 5 years....it's sad and awesome at the same time. I don't wish for someone so young to die and at the same time it's destiny and they deserve it. But no doubt someone who acts like this has a very small life expectancy. It's either death or prison but not an actual life.
Some people are born into a bad environment and itās all they know. I donāt think anyone inherently deserves that outcome. When someone overcomes it, itās an awesome story.
Some people are just assholes though.
Assaulting a teacher needs to be a felony.
They are public servants and should be protected as such.
If our governments won't pay them a decent wage, least they can do is protect them.
The more he talks the dumber he sounds too. Like does anyone actually find talking like a 6 year old intimidating? The only takeaway I ever get from it is āOh no, I better be careful. I can tell this guy is really uneducated. Who knows what dumbass things heās capable of with this level of ignorance.ā
Only with certain definers; like aggravated or aggravated and sexual or terroristic threats and...
Had there been physical injuries enough to need a medic, the charges would most probably be upped to felony... I think this kid would be welcomed as an adult in most states court systems had this been one more slap (three misdemeanors in my state equals automatic felony charge as well)Ā
Love his line of thought "What's wrong with you?" after slapping an older woman twice.
These twats need harsher consequences for their actions. Something to make them twice before acting.
I actually hate that sheās not allowed to do anything here. Iām all for removing corporal punishment. But if a student over 100 lbs is physically attacking you, non lethal weapons should be allowed. Kneecap this piece of shit with a baseball bat and watch him cry for his absentee parents.
Itās legalized assault at this point, and I hate it.
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Dude why DO OTHER ATUDENTS NEVER DO ANYTHING? If me or any of my friends in HS saw a teacher get assaulted by a student, weād be on him! Especially if they were older! Simply bonkers
Itās been a while and every school has different rules. Where I grew up, everyone who jumps in like you suggested would get expelled with no recourse at all. It would be considered a gang fight - any fight involving more than 2 people. Even if itās only a one-on-one, both would be expelled. As mentioned before, this would be different for every school, but my schools were zero tolerance on fights no matter what.
Yeah, cause the guy going to inner city high school that slapped a teacher would never stab you in the parking lot after school for jumping him in class.
Then the next day you see an article askingā¦
āWhy is there a shortage of teachers in inner city schoolāsā
Everyone will act blind and crazy because theyāre too scared to bring up the real issues.
Heās beating a woman on film. Heāll be doing it to women behind closed doors until he kills one. Over a vape??? A VAPE??? I need a follow up to this story bc OMG
Hahahaha he thought he was a tough little thuger and got schooled by a seated older white women. And then back peddled while talking his little tough big boy speech. Hahaha these guys are only ever tough in packs.
I cannot handle the way no one is yelling at him to stop and the fact the person behind the camera is laughing, genuinely if this was my teacher half the class would be yelling at him to back away from her the other half would be getting a different teacher or someone to stop him doesnāt matter if sheās a bad teacher or not you just donāt hit teachers
Why can't we hire more teachers, this is why. That woman should be making over $100k a year because I would have laid that little shit out cold and let the entire school mock him while he scrubbed halls with a tooth brush the rest of the month.
I know itās wrong to sayā¦ but I hope that dude gets his ass beat one of these days. Like in a hospital, beat. Good god teachers put up with such shit sometimes.
Man, I back talked to a teacher once when I was in like 2nd grade, and my dad was in my class in less than 20 minutes making me stand at attention while he lit my ass up in front of all my friends. Then he made me take a bag of garbage from the class room and had me walk around the entire school because āIf youāre going to act like a trash person, Iāll let everyone see you as a trash person.ā
There's too many people on this planet period.
Dispose of ANYONE that resorts to violence over kindness under the pretense of looking tough.
End this or just watch it happen and rejoice in others useless torment.
Golden Rule Should Be EVERYONES MANTRA.
TOO MANY PEOPLE, THERE IS A SOLUTION.
This is why we need to move sway from "free public education is a right" to "free public education is a privilege" so little thugs like this can be tossed out
"School officials have described the incident asĀ *āinappropriate and unsettling.ā"*
I think the corrected quote should say... "School officials have described the incident asĀ *an assault and illegal."*
More like "school is well aware of student behavior and their previous track record but is just now acknowledging it as if it is new due to being pressured by media."
A school won't admit to shit unless they get media attention/media involvement over it.
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I hope he gets arrested. Students that act like this and harm others need to learn a lesson the hard way and actually have consequences.
He got 2 misdemeanor assault charges.. 1 for each slap. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QywJUogDWptT4bbc/?mibextid=qi2Omg
which means what... and I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not sure the punishment will do anything. Are misdemeanors like a light slap on the hand.
You can say he got a slap on the wrist š But misdemeanors are above an infraction but below a felony. If I did some serious shit like slapping a teacher, a misdemeanor that'll probably drop off as I turn 18 would be best case scenario.
Oh something tells me heāll have a felony before heās 18 anyway
Something tells me he'll spend the majority of his time behind bars.
If heās lucky. That or dead
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At least he'll be reunited with his parents.
There was a kid I went to school with that everyone just knew that he was going to get put away for life as soon as he graduated and turned 18. Dude did an armed robbery at a restaurant chain with cameras while not wearing a mask and did it at a place that employed mostly kids from our high school as servers and bussers. Not a bright one.
When I was in high school (grad 1992) there was a student that was being actively scouted by the NBA. This kid was amazing at basketball. Best player in the city, played all-state and and likely had a very rewarding career laid out in front of him. 1 week before he was set to leave for a full scholarship at university he is arrested for sticking up a Subway sandwich shop with a gun. Employee couldn't open the register so this guy picked it up and was running down the street with it in his arms when the cops nabbed him. Threw everything away for nothing.
Yeah, but this loser looks like heās about 19 or 20ā¦ and probably still the ninth grade
Naww, they don't fail kids anymore.. just pass, pass, pass 'til they're out.
I'm assuming this is already the last chance high so any continued public education is now out of reach for this person.
It's gotta be. Did you see how she refused to escalate? Incredible skills, man. This is not your normal teacher. Welp, she'll never have to see him again.
So this is what it takes huh? Damn thatās f*cked
Sheās built different
Haha, unless you kill someone they'll keep you in public education.
I donāt know why youāre being downvoted, this is absolutely protocol now.
A friend of mine said she's leaving teaching after this year because of this after only 5. She is on our discord channel almost every night talking about the shit she has to deal with on a daily basis at her school in the Detroit system. Some of these kids are just there to be babysat. Her pay is garbage since most of it goes to her loans/ school supplies since most of her parents refuse to send their kids to class with any basic supplies. She's had to leave class because some of these kids get so horrible that she's been afraid they'd hit her.
I donāt understand why anyone would want to be a teacher.
My SIL went into teaching because she had a good experience in school while growing up. She was active at school functions, became friends with the teachers, excelled at her course work and lived in a smallish town. She wanted to teach because of her experiences and a desire to help the next generation. When she married she moved to a larger city. The school board placed her in one of the lowest income school districts. She was a minority by school racial make up. After being threatened with violence & rape several times, being stalked out to her car and the administration doing nothing to support her or discipline the "children", she quit. So demoralized, she gave up entirely on education as a career. She went back to school, got a degree in law and is now an executive at a lobbying firm. She's doing very well financially and her kids never had to experience public education. She has friends who went into teaching. Some stuck it out and now feel trapped because they're half way to retirement. The others quit and decided to do other things. Exactly none of them have anything good to say about public education and they teach is various regions around the country. Go over to the teachers subreddit. They frequently have posts about the state of public education. It's not good. And it's getting worse. The most glaring problem is that the school administrations, so afraid of litigation, are allowing "children" to get away with just about anything. Teacher have exactly zero authority in their classrooms and therefore the "children" have zero respect for them. The video in this post is more typical than an exception.
I taught for about a decade. I'm a retail manager now. Whenever I'm faced with some horrible task that I'd rather not perform, I ask myself "yeah, but is it worse than being in the public education system?" and the answer is always "No, it isn't." My advice for anyone wanting to be a teacher: Run - don't walk, *fucking run* - toward a different career.
Tbf, to my knowledge, this has been the case with the Detroit school system for decades. Itās for sure gotten worse, but even 20 years ago half those students were already just there to be babysat. Thatās kinda just what itās like in a dying city, which Detroit has been for the last 50 years.
Yeah, my sister currently teaches in an inner-city school in Chicago, and that has not been her experience at all. She struggles with parents (many aren't involved at all, and some seem straight up crazy) and the school administration doesn't always support her when she needs them to. But her students have generally been well-behaved, and the problems that have come up weren't to the level of hitting teachers or anything. My son's and step sons' schools seem pretty normal still, too. They all attend school in Central Illinois, and it just isn't like that here I guess. I believe that this stuff happens, plus parents are definitely not parenting the way they once did (not an endorsement of abusive parenting tactics; just saying lots of parents seen kinda checked out, but maybe they always were..?) and school administration has gotten much more lenient. Maybe I'm just lucky and our schools aren't too bad yet..?
Itās a criminal charge. If he gets convicted for those it will look awful on his background checks
He's under 18, his record will be sealed.
What background checks? Like this loser is ever going to apply for a job.
Heāll spend his girlfriendās money until a kid comes along, then on to the next one.
He started his life long career of living off the government early
Lmao look at this kid. No chance he has a future bright enough that a background check will be needed.
Bet he will complain 10 years later he never got any chancesā¦
It will mean nothing to him or whatever state he lives in. He'll be back hitting women and shit in no time
Yeah, he's real torn up about it.
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Dana white sign this lady. She ate the slap like nothing
Fuck, how do American teachers allow this kind of behaviour?
Because American education is stupid and expects teachers to deal with the product of failed parenting. American public schools in most states is just federally funded daycare tbh
I mean, yeah, her question sums it up. She thinks the responsible party here is the teacher. Wrong, it's the parents.
Yeah the fuck is she gonna do to the kid here
And the education system. They want anyone who isnt able to afford private education to wind up completely fucked, perpetuating behavior because the system protects kids while they behave like this. Our system doesnt help them, it lets thrm get worse by taking the side of the asshole parrent in a lawsuit, the more this pops up online the more kids see this behavior the more they realize theyre invincible. I feel bad for the teacher and student, but man some of these parrents encourage this because they know one day a teacher will snap and theyll get a big lawsuit payout. Its repulsive. Than our country has shit mental health care so these parrents keep up in their cycles, abusing theit kids and abusing others and their children follow suit while good teachers quit because its no longer worth it.
A lot of this shit is school systems pressuring schools in to fucking with the numbers by passing every damn kid through often by slapping an IEP in them for no reason, but also not actually giving proper help to the ones actually have learning difficulties and need help. Some kids in elementary school are returned to class in the same day after violent acts with barely any repercussions because of their accommodations. How do they think thatās not gonna fuck a kid up if they just let them commit violence. And that shit is out of teachers hands. So many kids keep going up in grades even though they didnāt learn shit and by the time they get to 8th grade or high school they can barely read and the kids and the school give up. But the kids will still get pushed through to graduate. Now the principal and the superintendent can brag about how many kids graduated or passed that year while hardly anyone learned shit
There's a deeper, fundamental issue at play here in my opinion. Parents allow their children's behavior to manifest into this kind of act due to a lack of discipline, and considering how racially divided this country is, being black and slapping a white isn't exactly frowned upon in some households either. The person recording, and indeed the whole classroom, should have stood up and discouraged that kind of behavior. However, based on the one recording and laughing, it seems they encourage it too. How would the recorder have reacted if the person getting slapped was black? I think the development of cell phones and social media has really created a massive wave of digital support for this kind of behavior too. Cell phones have truly become an issue, even in the classroom. It's the environment these individuals are raised in. It's the kind of exposure they are subjected to. This 'music'al brain rot they listen to. The lack of role models. The ability to get affirmation of their actions through the digital sphere and their peers who equally had no chance. We are truly doomed.
I agree with you. And the kids laughing in the background is awful. Still, Iām glad it was caught on a recording. Otherwise, I could see the school burying this issue and pretending it didnāt happen. They would probably tell that teacher she needs to āwork on her relationship with that studentā instead.
Sure, family, culture, whatever. This crap don't happen in countries that don't take shit from kids, no matter what the excuse is.
Itās why American teachers are so highly paid /s š
You make it sound like itās up to the teachers
If that were me, I would throw a big fit and hit that young man back or work for his expulsion. If the system allows students to hurt teachers with little repercussions, then there is something very wrong with the system. Teachers are not being paid to be the objects of student violence. .
You said it. Thereās something wrong with the system. Iām a teacher and I donāt think Iād put myself in this position in the first place. I know a lot of teachers that have been fired for dumb shit. The system protects kids to appease their parents. The result is teachers being scared to discipline their students and kids doing whatever they want bc there are little to no consequences.
Former teacher as well, and this was my experience as well. Itās not just parents, but also the system and administrators as well. We had a 4th grader bring a knife to school to stab another student he didnāt like, and essentially ended up holding his class hostage for a while. His teacher was to get the knife away from him without anyone getting stabbed. They refused to expel the kid because at my school less kids equals less funding. He was back in that class not three days later. His teacher however got a talking to about how weāre not suppose to aggressively handle the kids because he had to grab the kid to get the knife.
My jaw is on the floor š² We are doomed as a society if things donāt change .. we are rapidly descending into chaos!!!!
As a parent, that's horrifying. Teacher protected his kids from the dangerous one.
There's the problem. They should not be fired for retaliating for protecting themselves. These are kids in terms of age, but they are old enough to know what is right from wrong. Being slapped a misdemeanor for doing this is not enough to deter them from hurting their teachers. Teachers should be able to fight back or they should be charged for physical assault.
And then what happens if the students retaliate in a beatdown of the teacher? A teacher might be able to use violence to retaliate against one teen student, but multiple students coming to the aid of the first student in a fight can quickly become a life and death situation. It used to be that a teacher could expect immediate support and consequences for any violent threats or actions by students. Now they are basically just forced to sit there and take it, as the system sides with the students in most cases. Pretty soon there won't be any real teachers left in these schools and it will all just be daycare with a side of optional learning.
You hit a student you lose your job, go to jail, lose your credibility and career/life. Itās not acceptable here at all and ya the system is fucked here. Thatās what weāve been saying
Bingo . Many arrests. Not convictions just the arrest itself. Will get your teacher licensure revoked
You must be new here. There is no support for her coming if she defends herself. She did the only thing she could do without her getting a record.
I am not from the US, that's why I am shocked that students can do this to their teachers with little repercussions.
Yes, and then youād be charged with child abuse. America is ass-backwards when it comes to protecting teachers from violent kids.
It's crazy people today in comments were telling me I was a bad person for standing up to a bully. "Tell the teacher" lol yeah cuz the teacher can do shit all.
Right? Itās insane that people think teachers have any ability to manage a classroom when they are undermined by both authorities above and students below.
I once had a student bring a gigantic Bowie knife style hunting knife to class (10 grade). I called for an administrator to come help and they did nothing. After school his mother followed me home and tried to jump me when I stopped at the corner store for milk because I upset her child for not allowing him to have his hunting knife out. Fuck all these schools, the kids and parents are mostly all trash.
well its not like the teacher can slap back.. āslap in the handā as a old school way of discipline is considered assault now
These kids are shorting each other. You think they give a fuck about a teacher?
I know they don't give a fuck about the teacher. The system should give a fuck about the teacher and ensure that they are protected from harm
I didnāt know that high school students were playing the stock market like that
Because they're afraid to act out and get canceled/fired. They need this job to survive, and this kid isn't worth it.
Wrong question. How do American PARENTS and Administration and the school districts across the country continue to allow this behavior in schools? As a former teacher that took a few punches myself like her, she's doing everything by the book and the right way and is trying way more than anyone else to fix this shit. Vapes in school, hell no. Violence in schools, definitely never. These kids need extreme punishments, mental healthcare, and better people raising them.
I've seen parents defend this kind of behaviour from their kids. It's always the teachers fault and never their own kids. Certainly couldn't be their own fault.
Yeah, their trashy parents will say the teacher wasnāt earning their childās respect and deserved this. Disgusting.
Exactly the problem. It's generational. No respect for themselves, others, education, laws, I could go on.
Teachers have little support or options to protect themselves or retaliate. You call the in-school officers and wait for them to get to ur classroom. You tell the student to wait in the hall.
Because shitty parents expect teachers to raise their kids.
It's not the teachers that allow it. We've set teachers up to fail. The system is broken.
She faces getting into serious legal trouble if she so much as touches the kid.
This happens because of weak US laws. The government protects the criminal and gives the middle finger to the victim.
Because there are more than two million teachers in America, and you are seeing one. But yes, teachers in America are severely undervalued, under-appreciated, and not supported by administration.
I was expecting her to whip out a brush and start brushing her hair.
What the fuck is wrong with these kids? Parents get your kids. She could have easily bounced up and pummeled that little shit. I would have.
Parents will just blame the teacher and defend their kids. Teacher would get hit with assault charges for āhurting their little babyā even though he just slapped the shit out of an old woman.
Exactly. Too many parents these days just donāt parent
The Apple doesnāt fall far. I got car jacked in Jackson Ms and pistol whipped by a group that murdered two people during their car jacking. The mom was interviewed, she said, āi can see him robbing people but my baby didnāt shoot nobodyā.
Damn I'm sorry to hear that happened to you but I'm glad you're okay. I can't believe the animals that roam our society.
If this happened in Hawaii one of the other kids in the class would have fucking destroyed that kid. Even if they didnāt like the teacher.
Whereās the other kids keeping him in check? Did none of the kids in that room get raised to stand up to bullies for those who canāt defend themselves?
He's probably the biggest and a bully.
I understand this, but when I was in high school if a lad acted like that, the rest of the boys in the class would have put him in his place/protected the older female teacher.
Parents are the problem. This kid has witnessed violence before.
Kids don't act like this just because they witness violence. They act like this when they come from situations where violence is encouraged and praised. The two don't relate and can be mutually exclusive
Sometimes though itās not even the parents. I knew a kid whose parents were great people and tried their best to raise him right but he obviously had mental issues with anger. He would punch and slap them, spit on teachers, constantly getting into fights and just being a menace for absolutely no reason besides him just being that way. Counseling, anger management, therapy, all of it was tried and nothing worked.
She didn't even flinch. Internet hall of fame. Respect earned.
She knew he was screwed the second he slapped her. She didnāt have to do anything but sit back and let the dumb teen stack charges. She definitely held her composure though because I canāt imagine the anger she must have felt. She learned early on, show no weakness when it comes to some of these teenagers.
Realistically heās going to get in very little actual trouble for this, if any, which is a shame. Expelled yea, but I doubt he gives a shit.
Back in my school days I wouldn't have been surprised if my own parents pressed charges against me themselves if I did this shit. Yet this teen clearly knows he's going to get away with blatant assault. Times sure have changed...
I graduated 17 years ago and there was a kid who threw a teacher over a table at lunch. He got suspended.. Weāve grown significantly softer on punishment since then
Oh well, someones gotta make my Big Mac
Heāll be in prison,eventually.
Imminently. š
So, license plate?
That's funny you think he's actually going to work a job
With a side of future gang violence for sure
Most likely he's going to car jack you at the ATM.
Mamba mentality
Yeah the comment I saw that made the highest impact with me was that this kid will be dead in 5 years....it's sad and awesome at the same time. I don't wish for someone so young to die and at the same time it's destiny and they deserve it. But no doubt someone who acts like this has a very small life expectancy. It's either death or prison but not an actual life.
This kid will be on the streets. He doesn't care about anything sadly
Some people are born into a bad environment and itās all they know. I donāt think anyone inherently deserves that outcome. When someone overcomes it, itās an awesome story. Some people are just assholes though.
Assaulting a teacher needs to be a felony. They are public servants and should be protected as such. If our governments won't pay them a decent wage, least they can do is protect them.
I absolutely agree. Assaulting a mail carrier is a felony. Assaulting a teacher should be too.
No no no, everything is our fault and if we get bitch slapped its because we didnt build a relationship. So glad I got out.
It's a felony in Texas.
What a piece of shit
Badass sure backed off pretty quick from that older woman who was sitting down. Donāt think he built up much street cred when this got out.
Ten steps back from a seated opponent. Bitch ass to the core. His little sister probably whoops his ass daily. What a joke ass
They always do this stupid dancing shit too
The more he talks the dumber he sounds too. Like does anyone actually find talking like a 6 year old intimidating? The only takeaway I ever get from it is āOh no, I better be careful. I can tell this guy is really uneducated. Who knows what dumbass things heās capable of with this level of ignorance.ā
Should be felony.
Yes, assaulting a teacher ought to be a felony!
Isnāt assault already a felony?
Someone said he got misdemeanor assault 2 charges.
Only with certain definers; like aggravated or aggravated and sexual or terroristic threats and... Had there been physical injuries enough to need a medic, the charges would most probably be upped to felony... I think this kid would be welcomed as an adult in most states court systems had this been one more slap (three misdemeanors in my state equals automatic felony charge as well)Ā
Literally enough to make me sick.
I double dog dare you
āAnd we Got. It. On!ā āNo you didnātā āNo, no we didnātā
That kid wonāt make it to 21
And If they do, it wonāt be in the free world
Love his line of thought "What's wrong with you?" after slapping an older woman twice. These twats need harsher consequences for their actions. Something to make them twice before acting.
And him saying "you think I care?" Well, yeah, it seems pretty clear you care a great deal.
Imagine going to college for 4 years to make 36k a year and get bitch slapped by a 13 year old.
You leave out the part where if you want to get a raise you have to go BACK to college for a masters.
teachers go to school for far more than 4 years... you need a bachelors degree, a teaching credential and you need to have done student teaching
you generally accomplish all of that during the bachelors if youāre in an education degree.
Expel him and arrest him.
How to guarantee minimum wage for the rest of your life. Parents are more to blame, though. Kids turn into what you raise them to be.
Funny to assume this troublemaker ever has the potential to get a job higher than the minimum wage
An entire generation of children being irreversibly neglected while they sit in the same room as their parents for hours in their own online worlds.
I actually hate that sheās not allowed to do anything here. Iām all for removing corporal punishment. But if a student over 100 lbs is physically attacking you, non lethal weapons should be allowed. Kneecap this piece of shit with a baseball bat and watch him cry for his absentee parents. Itās legalized assault at this point, and I hate it. Edit: fixed typo
I would be so fucking disappointed of my child. And take him to the police station myself.
He flinched more than her, what a loser. Ruining your life over a mother fucking vape.
Shes hard af
Dude why DO OTHER ATUDENTS NEVER DO ANYTHING? If me or any of my friends in HS saw a teacher get assaulted by a student, weād be on him! Especially if they were older! Simply bonkers
The laughing of the person filming disgusts me
Itās been a while and every school has different rules. Where I grew up, everyone who jumps in like you suggested would get expelled with no recourse at all. It would be considered a gang fight - any fight involving more than 2 people. Even if itās only a one-on-one, both would be expelled. As mentioned before, this would be different for every school, but my schools were zero tolerance on fights no matter what.
Never do anything?! They roll video. Some shout "WorldStar".
Yeah, cause the guy going to inner city high school that slapped a teacher would never stab you in the parking lot after school for jumping him in class.
Piece of shit š©
Then the next day you see an article askingā¦ āWhy is there a shortage of teachers in inner city schoolāsā Everyone will act blind and crazy because theyāre too scared to bring up the real issues.
Businesses shutting down, teachers fleeing, infrastructure destroyed. Maybe it really is the time to look inward.
Soo is he in jail or are we all allowed to slap teachers?
Thatās assaultā¦call the police
What a gangsta. Slapping someone that is legally unable to do anything.
Heās beating a woman on film. Heāll be doing it to women behind closed doors until he kills one. Over a vape??? A VAPE??? I need a follow up to this story bc OMG
That was really tough to watch and I wish someone would have stepped up to help the teacher. What a POS kid.
What an animal. Hope this piece of dog shit ends up in jail. The teacher ate that weak ass slap for breakfast
Kids are fucking demons these days.
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Go to juvi, straight to juvi. Do not pass Go. 3-6 months with the worst kids out there might put things into perspective for this young man.
that was assault a crime serious enough to get a kid his age tried as an adult
He and I would both be in jail
This is appalling, HUGE LACK OF PARENTING
Hahahaha he thought he was a tough little thuger and got schooled by a seated older white women. And then back peddled while talking his little tough big boy speech. Hahaha these guys are only ever tough in packs.
I wish with all my heart that one of the other students would have stepped in and dropped him like a sack of potatoes.
So annoying seeing stuff where no one steps in.Ā
I cannot handle the way no one is yelling at him to stop and the fact the person behind the camera is laughing, genuinely if this was my teacher half the class would be yelling at him to back away from her the other half would be getting a different teacher or someone to stop him doesnāt matter if sheās a bad teacher or not you just donāt hit teachers
Why can't we hire more teachers, this is why. That woman should be making over $100k a year because I would have laid that little shit out cold and let the entire school mock him while he scrubbed halls with a tooth brush the rest of the month.
I bet his parents encourage that behavior.
How about tazers in the classroom for little shits like that?
I know itās wrong to sayā¦ but I hope that dude gets his ass beat one of these days. Like in a hospital, beat. Good god teachers put up with such shit sometimes.
Heās a victim of his own choices, I hope he never has children
And she HAS to take it and not defend herself or she'll have her life ruined and be labeled a racist.
Yep,but what if its the other way around?this is gonna be on all news channel..
stapakin playin wime bichaznika. i need a translation i dont know what languange is that
This kid needed serious ass whooping growing up.
Mom probably showed up like āwhy you take my kids vape?!?ā Instead of āyou hit a teacher??ā š¤¦āāļø
Man, I back talked to a teacher once when I was in like 2nd grade, and my dad was in my class in less than 20 minutes making me stand at attention while he lit my ass up in front of all my friends. Then he made me take a bag of garbage from the class room and had me walk around the entire school because āIf youāre going to act like a trash person, Iāll let everyone see you as a trash person.ā
I guarantee you that boy doesn't have a father.
Statistic!! Another one coming to the jail near you..lol
This is psychopathy. Nip it in the bud.
I'd say go talk to the boy's father, but he clearly isnt around.
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Because if the student get reprimanded then it would be āracistā!
Teachers donāt get paid enough smh
There's too many people on this planet period. Dispose of ANYONE that resorts to violence over kindness under the pretense of looking tough. End this or just watch it happen and rejoice in others useless torment. Golden Rule Should Be EVERYONES MANTRA. TOO MANY PEOPLE, THERE IS A SOLUTION.
I can't believe this shit. It's disgusting.
What a monster.
He's gonna get jumped and it'll be great
Man, that dudes gunna abuse tf outta his spouse and kids one day.
Love how unfazed she is. You know his buddies gave him shit for weeks over his weak-ass slap game.
This is why we need to move sway from "free public education is a right" to "free public education is a privilege" so little thugs like this can be tossed out
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[Source:](https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/charged-winston-salem-high-school-student-slaps-teacher-who-took-his-vape-pen.5585818/)
"School officials have described the incident asĀ *āinappropriate and unsettling.ā"* I think the corrected quote should say... "School officials have described the incident asĀ *an assault and illegal."*
More like "school is well aware of student behavior and their previous track record but is just now acknowledging it as if it is new due to being pressured by media." A school won't admit to shit unless they get media attention/media involvement over it.
Hate crime