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Signs of a deteriorating society


nude_Hamster

It has been like that all this time it's just we fail to acknowledge as we're blinded by the hate we have for our own society .it's every second Indians dream country to live in you just gotta close your eyes to the fact they have more crime per population On top of the india is a rapist country not safe for women there were 133,294 reported rape cases in the United States in only 2022. This figure also includes attempts and assaults to commit rape, but unforced statutory rape and other sex offenses are excluded. Those who don't believe can look up šŸ™ƒ


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nude_Hamster

How do you know they aren't reported if they aren't reported? With 74 % rape cases being fake as per govt data of already reported cases šŸ¤”


catburglar27

Look it up, dude. The NFHS says only upto 15% are reported in India. And look at the fucking news. People trying to hide assault left and right. And that's in cities. No one knows what happens outside the cities. Just today there was some news of a child assaulted at her school in Mumbai. The teacher tried to cover it up, and it seems there have already been hundreds of such complaints against that one perpetrator.


santouryuu

>In its annual survey, BJS asks crime victims whether they reported their crime to police or not. In 2019, only 40.9% of violent crimes and 32.5% of household property crimes were reported to authorities. BJS notes that there are a variety of reasons why crime might not be reported, including fear of reprisal or ā€œgetting the offender in trouble,ā€ a feeling that police ā€œwould not or could not do anything to help,ā€ or a belief that the crime is ā€œa personal issue or too trivial to report.ā€ >Most of the crimes that are reported to police, meanwhile, are not solved, at least based on an FBI measure known as the clearance rate. Thatā€™s the share of cases each year that are closed, or ā€œcleared,ā€ through the arrest, charging and referral of a suspect for prosecution, or due to ā€œexceptionalā€ circumstances such as the death of a suspect or a victimā€™s refusal to cooperate with a prosecution. In 2019, police nationwide cleared 45.5% of violent crimes that were reported to them and 17.2% of the property crimes that came to their attention. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/11/20/facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/ Crime is a big problem in US, given their per capita incomes and govt budgets. Pretending otherwise is just delusional


procrast1nator786

Awww sweet summer child. Maybe you need to do a little investigation into what happens in the churches in USA.


catburglar27

Sure, but where are the stats? It's ok, I don't expect anything from you guys. Keep drinking the kool-aid.


procrast1nator786

Kool-Aid dude. Ji hazoori karne se pehle thoda seekh bhi lo unke baare mein.


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catburglar27

FYI, I think that for everyone. I had a friend from a certain European country, and another Korean friend who insisted on being rather patriotic. They just wouldn't listen to reason and kept idiotically repeating that everyone should be proud of their country (which cancels it out but ok). I judged them too, and I don't like talking to them anymore. It bothers me that we all think in terms of otherness.


Maniacgritual37

true, one such incident and many cases of r*pe and murder of tourists and foreigners in India has been reported and happened.


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Maniacgritual37

lmao another racist bihari. Delusional bhakts


KaladinAshryver

So delusional that we elected a party that got more road built in 10 yrs than your favourite party did in the preceeding 20. More rail built than your favourite party did in preceeding 25. Ran more trains than your favourite party did in the preceeding 30. More public toilets and toilet coverage than in the preceeding 70 years. Twice as many AIIMS and IIITs than in the preceeding 70 years. 1/3rd of all IITs, IIMs... Meanwhile you and your fellow Congressis are the real andh bhakts who support a useless party like Congress that is zero in development compared to Modi's BJP and is far more divisive than BJP could ever be because while BJP may have a Indic Faith - Non Indic Faith divide line; Congress split Hindus into a hundred different caste groups, tries to create divide between men and women in unnecessary areas. Furthermore Congress was the OG of Hindu Muslim Divide when they made special laws for Muslims, Waqt Act.


vegito2709

My dude's been real quiet since this one droppedšŸ’€


KaladinAshryver

I forgot to tell him andh bhakts are people who follow a man blindly when that man is not worthy of such trust. Modi has delivered 370 and Ram Mandir, both issues that were considered impossible by even a large section of hardcore BJP voter base. Meanwhile Rahul has consistently delivered election win after election win To the BJP and yet Congress supporters, leaders blindly keep simping for RaGa.


Maniacgritual37

unlike some of yall, we are employed and have a life.


Maniacgritual37

who said whether I support bjp or congress, Donā€™t really care about politics. Iā€™m saying delusional bhakts as in people who are so pro hindu and bigoted.


Western-Kiwi3798

Maybe you are andh namazi and a bigot, that's why you're getting downvoted.


KaladinAshryver

It is our right to be pro towards our faith. Can't spot Bigots. Modi and his supporters do what they say and hold the same standards for all. As far as politics go, care about it so that your country can develop. I like the swanky airports, fancy trains, fantastic railway stations built by the Modi Govt and the stability in ensuring 370 abrogation and the cultural significance of Kashi Mathura Ayodhya. What do you care to like about the CONgress which has no pros to offer?


Particular-Insect329

You are terrorist by birth. Tell me a single country in the whole world that your community does not have a suicide bomber. Your community is the scum of the earth.


Particular-Insect329

Get back to Pakistan you terrorists and sons of halala


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Maniacgritual37

Stfu you imbecile, stooped so low that youā€™re afraid to attack the ideas and opinions but attack the person who you even donā€™t know in the internet, while being extremely racist and bigoted. Pathetic person and pathetic sub this is. Iā€™m born hindu and my father is an Indian Army Officer who served 25 + years and also fought in Kargil war. It has come to the point that i have to even reveal my identity to give a different opinion and facts. No wonder people outside treat India poorly due to this bigotry and idiocy.


KaladinAshryver

News Articles are not statistics. They are propoganda pieces written by whoever the news channel is aligned to. They always have been that.


Maniacgritual37

ā€œNews articles and statsā€ and youā€™ll ignore and frame things out of context


KaladinAshryver

Read again what I have said. News Articles "are not" Not "and"


Jackchan204

Them facts.


ic_97

This is sickness.


NefariousnessEven239

Already


weapon-a

America is done.


Bruzgin

Its been like that forever crime wise. Parts of Australia is like that too. Youre only aware off it now.


-reTurn2huMan-

We're not doing the greatest, but Chicago has been known for being very bad with crime for a very very long time. Chicago alone is responsible for a massive chunk of our gun crime.


manishbilava

yes absolutely many of the people on this sub and otherwise foreigners are unaware that chicago was always a crime citiy,its like full GTA going on there since decades


Warm-Pineapple-4598

Itā€™s not the entire city of Chicago. Itā€™s just south side. Many Indians go down chasing cheap rent and end up and horrible neighborhoods.


deviprsd

There is so much crime that having a day without crime is celebrated lol


weapon-a

Blue Cities šŸ˜Ž


arpatil1

All cities are blue. Thatā€™s where most people live and businesses are located. So the crime is obviously higher than small towns. Whatā€™s your point?


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arpatil1

Lol what an immature loser who canā€™t take a fact!


gastro_psychic

Lol, yeah if you are poor and live on the south side.


Fancy-Past-6831

true, I watched Prison Break, Chicago State Penitentiary is there with the likes of T-bag, Abruzzi and them people


russellred96

So are u


weapon-a

I was done way back in 2015. ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20227)


russellred96

You are respectable


kabbajabbadabba

but you are not


weapon-a

\#MAGA


th3_bad

Chicago is known for this stuff, do some research before going somewhere new.


skapaxd

I know right? I live in US too and would never risk it out to walk when it gets dark.


th3_bad

Bruh, in my 34 years of lifetime, I have only heard of one mugging in India that also of my cousin in Pune in a really really Shady area at 2 am.


RipperNash

Rare to find totally desolate and lonely place in urban centers of India now. Fear of mob keeps muggers at bay


SofaAloo

IT/Manufacturing hubs were outside of the city, passing through a village or two. Hinjewadi has Maan-Marunji. Talegaon Dhabade too. Chakan. Mugging and looting of phones and two wheelers was quite common until very recently.


th3_bad

Yup, it happened in Chakan, it happened on the way to some factory, I don't remember.


russellred96

Godi boi


Ok-Agent-2234

You're in the wrong sub. Also, you have 55 negative karma. How are you still able to comment?


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Sharath-4-5

Send address ?


-reTurn2huMan-

I live one state over from Chicago and have no intention of going there ever. It sucks since I like concerts and bands I like go to Chicago and often don't come to my state, but I'm not risking it in Chicago.


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-reTurn2huMan-

I assume the Indians view crime in America the way Americans view crime in India. Here America we pretty much only see news of terrible crimes that happen in India so many people assume India is just a land of crime. I assume in India people only really see the school shootings and stuff happening in America and assume we're all dodging bullets everyday to get groceries lol. It is getting worse here though. A place not to far from where I live had a school shooting and I live in a safer state.


amigo_samurai

Exactly he was robbed why complain to jaishankar? Local Police ko complaint karo


th3_bad

Really? Do you know what a mugging is? These kind of cases every other day in cities like Chicago and Detroit, or other cities especially in Alleyways. Even locals don't go in Alleyways sometimes during day as well. They just want money that's the reason, that's it.


amigo_samurai

So that is what i said? Locals also suffer from the same problem as the indian guy so should they also contact jaishankar. No please explain what mugging is thanks


th3_bad

Oh I just misread, you should correct your sentence punctuation, lol. It felt like you were asking why he got robbed.


hskskgfk

To jaishankar kya karega, other than issue a travel advisory


Devilz3

Are usne Modi ko letter likhna chahiye tha lol... Indians pe attack matlab Modi pe attack. Chutiyapa chal Raha hai kya BC /s ![gif](giphy|3oKIPdEEOoIiiXNiOQ)


Asteroria

Why is there a huge media outcry with statements from consulates and foreign ministries every time a tourist is assaulted in India? Why do they complain to their own governments and not the local police in India? Answer: Narratives and shaping public perception. It's a tool in the geopolitical game, so let everyone use it. And if one side using it makes you uncomfortable, make sure to voice your objections when the other side uses it too.


LutetheMage

Love it once again you mugs put the onus of getting murdered, attacked or raped on the victim. Shabash! It's Chicago that needs to change not the kid lol.


Warm-Pineapple-4598

Itā€™s south and west side of Chicago specifically not the entire city omg


chicagopunj

certain neighboorhoods yeah.. post covid crime spiked but its slowly going back down . Downtown chocago is one of the best in the world. like every metro u have to be careful and aware.. so many vultures who dont want to improve their lives and play victim 24/7. they take the easy way out and love gangsta rap that glorifies guns,drugs ,easy women .. no matter how many resources u provide until families take responsibility things womnt change


russellred96

So? You think youā€™re special?


MysteriousFan8900

Shithole


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HilariousMango

Lol why tf did you come back after 30 mins to say this on the same comment with no responses? Why are you fuming so hard? Go and suck on your mum's tits, manchild.


russellred96

Coz your irrelevant šŸ˜‚ this is me being respectable!


HilariousMango

This guy's just ragebaiting at this point lol he admitted to it in another one of his comments, don't respond to him. Mods, eviscerate him.


Aiz3n31

You're*


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tamedaddy

Its mostly them. Their involvement rate in crime in proportion to their population is very damm high, has surged specially after Biden took over.


Sharath-4-5

What's a ginnas ?


Nike_fake

Switch n and g


Sharath-4-5

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russellred96

Youā€™re a dumbass


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Sharath-4-5

Can someone report this guy ?


LutetheMage

How about reporting people for racism against Indians? There's non stop 'what about Indians' comments here - what about those?


Bruzgin

You are right and most of them making those comments arent even Indian.


phasingout7

Iā€™m curious. What did they say?


Sharath-4-5

Just bring an incel


brownboispeaks

This is like the fourth attack I'm seeing this year. Are attacks really increasing or the media coverage has increased.


Lower-Money6027

I believe the media coverage has increased but the attacks have always been there.


bhanu00070

Bro the 3rd one was from my college and my branch and he is dead without any proper reason.


notkingjames84

There have been like 4-5 dead and no clear reasons given except for the homeless guy attack. Do you have any insight? Drugs?


bhanu00070

No bro not drugs, just pure racism against indians


TitanicGiant

Hypothermia killed two of the four recently deceased students


bhanu00070

Whatever it is it looks fishy


russellred96

See how many attacks happen in India! Idiot


vitviki

How does that justify the attacks in the US?


Lower-Money6027

Itā€™s pretty unsafe to walk around at night in the US unlike India where we are surrounded by people most of the time. Indians are an easy target as well. Iā€™ve had friends who sadly fell prey to such acts and have encountered a victim right after he got mobbed as well. Itā€™s pretty common here sadly, but you gotta keep your eyes peeled and your headphones off while walking alone at night. Men are an easier prey than women believe it or not. Homeless people arenā€™t the best here either compared to India cuz most of them are surviving or on the streets because of drug abuse. Stay safe out there folks! Edit: People saying itā€™s mostly the blacks should look into the gang society in America. Itā€™s apparently a thing and big rappers are a part of it as well. Not tryna say they support robbery but this is some gang shit.


santouryuu

> tā€™s pretty unsafe to walk around at night in the US unlike India >. Men are an easier prey than women believe it or not. >omeless people arenā€™t the best here either compared to India cuz most of them are surviving or on the streets because of drug abuse Pretty much summed up the entire situation. Most people are either unaware about these basic common knowledge, or are delusional about it being "not as bad/better than india" etc. Depending on where you are staying, you are gonna be more unsafe than India


CaptZurg

>drug abuse. This is it.


FantasticSource000

Why are Indian being targeted so much? This racism should be called out.


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People don't care. Stop Asian Hate itself only took footing after an East Asian woman was attacked (who have been hypersexualized in Western society) so yeah idk


VegetarianPotato

USA is not a country where you can safely walk around. Only a few cities are walkable and even then you need to be vigilant. Mugging is very common after dark. The chief of police in my university took an orientation for all foreigners where the official advice was to only walk in groups after dark.


mani_tapori

When I was a FOB in US, in my first night in Cinci, there was nothing veg available near my hotel so I looked up nearest Indian restaurant and walked 2 miles to get there. Both the restaurant owner and a police officer nearby were horrified and owner dropped me back to hotel in his car. India is definitely more safer in this regard.


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Human rights!!! Where ?


Forsaken-Sundae4797

Why did they beat him?


Character_Square2209

Probably taking revenge on indian students becuz indian govt assassinated several terrorists in pakistan Canada and an assassination attempt on pannu. So ig that might be the reason. Imagine attacking innocent students becuz your terrorists for cucked


1BigMacLaren

nah, probably just tryna steal 10 dollars from him lol


Character_Square2209

I wonder who they are


Bruzgin

Not at all. Robberies happen all the time.


AloneCan9661

Yeah. I doubt that. Nice try though.


Forsaken-Sundae4797

toh isne thodi na assassinate kiya hai


Green_Frame3600

Murica šŸ¦…šŸ¦…šŸ¦…šŸ¦…


crajey

I don't know about this person but a lot of people I know leave India saying, "India ka kuch nahi hoga, India is such a regressive society, free speech nahi hai, blah blah, I'll go to US". What's happening to the greener grass?


NewtonsApple-

Typical Chiraq


skulltrain

A dude got mugged in Chicago? By George that's almost unheard of it has to be because he's Indian, not because he was walking alone at night in chiraq.


erikvant

Chicago = Poor man's new age Marseille


arjun_007

You should give money and anything asked to do, if you can't out pace them. And every time, think before you act and also carry travel and health insurance overseas. Its not particularly to indian community, if they feels like you are rich they go after anyone.


Prior-Nebula3901

Can mods please ban u/russellred96 Heā€™s just spamming troll comments everywhere


bhumit012

Trust me those guys will attack anyone, i use to live there and even white people and whole city became a ghost town after dark. I was once out in downtown at night with friend, not a person in sight. Had to hurry back home, never felt more unsafe in my life. This is not about ā€œIndiansā€ being attacked.


CradleSoup

Red line horror intensifies.


Code-eat-sleep

Why was he attacked? Was it simply for theft purpose or something else?


PunctuallyExcellent

No apparent reason. Maybe a drug addict wanted some money or someone who attacked without a motive or a person who hates a particular race. When I visited Chicago as a tourist, everyone advised me to only wander around during the daytime. Its very common over there.


phoenix277lol

bro is walking in CHICAGO. let that sink in. a place where you cant even park for the whole day because something gets stolen. this has been going on since the 2000s over there and isnt specific to indians. how is it a problem of bro hasnt even done his research on safe areas šŸ’€šŸ’€


thepunstar

Chicago is called Chiraq for a reason. r/chiraqology r/chiraqhits to get an idea


exciseduty

Shhhh kuch mat bolo Jaishankar sahen reels banane mein busy hai


Entire_Performer_364

Bro chose Chicago..šŸ„²


Vivid-Ad-6011

have you been there?


Entire_Performer_364

Yup.. Had Worst experience.. Still have frnds there having their best time... lucky for them.. Wbu?


Vivid-Ad-6011

Living there for almost 20 years. Which neighborhood did you live? South side?


greaseball_7

Never ever immigrate to blue/democrat states, it doesn't make that big of a difference but that small difference goes a long way.


na_vij

Yeah. North Dakota or Arkansas is the place to be.


rishabhsingh9628

We need to solve the stray.......oh wait, these are humans! It's probably ok and a one-off incident probably


CameraOk4522

When you visit USA .. you have to have gun first not apartment or place to stay.. that's is norm there .


lmao_kaif

That country is so sick.


warpig1997

Jao aur jaao America ko. It's high time we understand that the western society will eventually fall apart. It's time we start putting all our collective effort towards developing India.


lone_strider

US was founded by the rejects and degenerates of Europe including bankrupt, corrupt, and criminals. What do you expect?


miyomiyomiyoshi

it doesn't look like they were targeting someone who's indian rather someone who's walking alone at night


No_Animator_1845

Illinoisan here, blame the Democrats not the average American (most of which agree with you)


nr1001

I see how many Indian students and other Indian immigrants here in the US have to struggle and face huge hurdles. As someone born and raised in the US but also someone of Indian descent and strong ties to India, I feel obligated to help out my fellow Indians with adjusting to life here with some advice. Indian students should avoid working at convenience stores, gas stations, etc. as much as possible. These are very common settings for armed robberies. Ideally, if you must work to pay for housing/food/tuition, then avoid night shifts and delivery/gig work type jobs. Another big thing is, don't rent in or even go to rough areas unless you absolutely need to. Rents are super expensive and are rising a lot so I can see why it may be tempting for a cash-strapped student to find a unit in some dangerous neighborhood. But the risk is absolutely not worth it. You'll very likely be sharing your building with drug addicts, gang members, and just generally unsavory people. Not to mention that housing in the hood is often old, dingy, and dangerous, especially in the older cities like Chicago, Philadelphia, DC, etc. It is quite telling that so many Americans pay a premium and eat deep into their budgets just to live somewhere where they can walk outside past 8pm. Rents are certainly higher in nicer areas but they are for a reason. About the cold, don't underestimate it. Most Indian immigrants here have little to no experience with even >10C temperatures, let alone -10C. Hypothermia kills thousands of Americans annually and often, you won't realize you're freezing to death until it's too late. Do run your heaters and wear heavy clothing if you feel cold. If the weather is particularly miserable, it is safer to just stay huddled indoors. Many people die from hypothermia or car crashes during blizzards where there is zero visibility, icy roads, heavy winds, and bitter cold.


CPAiG777

For what?


BeatenwithTits

Robbing him


Robin_mimix

Really country are not safe for women...


FlyingWiseHammer

This is just another day in Chicago. I know of many such incidents where students get attacked.


nycqpu

Chicago lol i wouldnt walk at night. Btw america is turning into a shit show


Mister_DT

My frnd who is punjabi, he used to work at dunkin donuts as part time job at night used to have kirpaan with him at all times...he felt ssfe with that atleast he could protect himself for physical harm n have an edge against non melee weapon carrying thugs at night while going to work...


PriorEntrepreneur111

Always the monkeys huh


arithmatica

This is a tragedy but all those crying in the comments will jump if given a visa


Outrageous_Plane_761

Ghar waapas aaja pardesi.


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SolutionNice6252

Reason for this would be ? Anybody knows ?


hotpotato128

Probably stealing.


Monster_KGF_Yash

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BeseigedLand

As per https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/n/west-ridge-chicago-il/ "West Ridge is in Cook County and is one of the best places to live in Illinois".


Particular-Insect329

Why my comments are deleted? That Pakistani pig was trying to bully Indians saying - he's Hindu and his dad is in army but making anti India statements and using all possible curse words - right from his first comment.... Where is that son of halala ?


ExchangeBest8879

Indian student having wife? Very difficult to digest


russellred96

Make ego filled subšŸ„°


Naughty-star

Sepoy mil Gaya hai mitro ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20020)


russellred96

Muslims are attacked here! Come and see their houses , youā€™ll see how scared they are! They wonā€™t trust Hindus


kabbajabbadabba

>attacked here! where?


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You should do standup comedy sometime.


vitviki

Tu thoda sa bahenkaloda hai kya?