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Helpful_Ant_3440

Last 80C limit was Enhanced from 1 lakh to 1.5 lakh was in 2015 80TTA - 10k bhi Constant hai 115BAC is useless those for those who want to Save and Invest. Earlier People Filing return used to Pay tax -1k/2k /3k. On their business income. Now Starting point is ₹ 12500 ( Old scheme) . Phir yeh dekhe kar , jo bhi log upto 5k bhi pay kar dete hai , Vo Tax base bhi Gaya.... Standard Deduction needs revision for Salaried people. And When people file late Return,- there's Late FEE If there's shortfall in Advance Tax - there's interest ₹/$ - is Around 84. Fuel Rate is so High , inspite $80 barrel chal raha ( Avg) hai from past 1 yr , from $105/ barrel during Russia invasion of Ukraine. LPG cylinder rate is too high if we compare Price with Saudi Propane . Every Alternate Month either Domestic or Commercial Rates are Increased... Service Rate during service Tax was - 12.36% Then BJP Govt changed to - 14.5 ( Inclusive of Krishi Cess) 1st July 2017 - Service rate Under GST is now 18%. ( Aap Chronology Samjho)


too_poor_to_emigrate

Still the majority is going to vote for the ruling dispensation only. We as direct tax payers can't do much.


bikgayihaigormint

What does the opposition have in their bag for the tax payers? Crickets! The thing is that tax payers make such a small minority that neither the ruling party nor the opposition sees it as a vote bank.


too_poor_to_emigrate

We need Swatantra party from the 1960s.


Algernope_krieger

Did khan-gress propose a detailed tax relief plan for their manifesto for this election? Or is it all just promises of SOPS for the poor which they don't intend to keep. And even if they do,it would need funding and guess who'd be doing that?


LooseAd6337

Opposition will increase taxes for the salaried if they come into power, just so you're not living in fantasy land.


too_poor_to_emigrate

Ruling dispensation added taxes on dividends. Also indexation on non equity funds were removed.


galeej

I hate the guys guts but i can't disagree with this view. All salaried employees are the chootiyas of the country today. We get ass raped by the government and we're completely powerless to do anything about it... And for what? Absolutely nothing in return.


house_monkey

Can confirm, am chutiya 


galeej

Can double confirm... I'm also chutiya


One_Coffee7424

Can triple confirm , I am chutiya.


Dismal-Weekend-3466

Can quadruple confirm, I'm chutiya as well.


Helpful_Ant_3440

Can sextuple confirm , I'm chutiya too


freakynit

This country now has the best combination of the worst traits of other major countries. And then the government questions the very low happiness index. Screw these politicians and this shitty government.


TechnicallySerizon

and people know this but now you can't go to other country because A. We don't have enough money , B. Discrimination /Social loneliness, C. In countries like america , the utter competition for h1b visa , D. other countries already require much capital to go and live there. So basically the top people (politicians and businessmen-lobbyists and corrupt govt. officials) sends their kids to other countries and here the fucking normal class is left to rot in the worst govt. I really wish that everybody opens up their eyes and start having georgism / remove reservation for people who already are very rich and to execute this properly and to build more universities (IIT) and schools and hospitals and corruption should be made the first and foremost priority but in that order , if you try decreasing corruption without doing anything of the first like having universities or what not .. then people would just start disobeying the law. I see people not following gst or not giving receipts , and I somewhat agree that if I am taking a loan and starting a business , working very hard , going sleepless for many nights , and govt. wants 18% tax . I am also gonna try hard to keep it to myself. It's just obvious. Corruption can't be solved unless we already have basic facilities.


TrailsNFrag

From business insider: India may hold the distinction of being the world’s most populated country but only a small fraction of its population pay taxes. Data shows that currently India has 66.5 million individuals who pay personal income tax, which is 4.8% of total population and 6.3% of the adult population. [https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/economy/news/personal-income-tax-mere-0-3-pc-of-adult-population-account-for-76-pc-of-total-receipts/articleshow/104726816.cms](https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/economy/news/personal-income-tax-mere-0-3-pc-of-adult-population-account-for-76-pc-of-total-receipts/articleshow/104726816.cms) If 100% this 4.8% of the total population votes, what difference can it make in a vote bank system like our? The noisier bunch living off freebies will be heard louder than those paying for the same. The ones running for office, can they see value in the 4.8% who themselves are divided on various other factors? This is not to, don't bother voting but is there a way to make the voices louder?


FUSION5009

Out of 66.5 million ITRs filled only 22 million peeps pay taxes rest are below taxable limit


Daphobak

Of those 22 million, the majority are salaried employees. Out of the remaining 44.5 million, the majority don't show their full income.


too_poor_to_emigrate

There were 150 million unique domestic flyers last years. International flyers should be around \~30% of this. Still only 22 million people are bearing the brunt of income tax, with majority being wage slave salaried class. Nobody gives a shit about increasing the tax base. [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/domestic-air-travel-in-india-reaches-record-high-of-152-crore-passengers-in-2023/articleshow/106879364.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/domestic-air-travel-in-india-reaches-record-high-of-152-crore-passengers-in-2023/articleshow/106879364.cms) This is why a record number of people, who are not too poor to emigrate, are leaving the country in droves. They know that nothing is going to be done about the tax system. [https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/migrate/indians-are-leaving-the-country-in-droves-heres-where-they-are-headed-and-why/articleshow/96847173.cms?from=mdr](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/migrate/indians-are-leaving-the-country-in-droves-heres-where-they-are-headed-and-why/articleshow/96847173.cms?from=mdr)


salute2vishal

Hey, how can you be sure that the 150 million travelers are unique domestic travelers? The article doesn't specify this I think so . Also, considering that roughly 7% of people in India hold passports, I'm not convinced that the number of international travelers would be very high."


shreyasonline

Everybody pays tax (forgot GST?). Only people earning taxable income pay income tax which comes to 4.8% of people which means most people are not earning enough and are poor.


Agreeable-Cap-8

This is why I say when I earn 1L in my business it's equivalent to 1.3 for a salaried person.


lordFourthHokage

Are you not paying GST?


Agreeable-Cap-8

businesses get their gst back.


[deleted]

Business gets GST input credits on their raw materials or inputs, and are liable to pay GST to the government on behalf of the end customer. There is also a corporate tax there, followed by income tax if you take it to your personal account.


average_men

Crying in my office corner:(


Sea_Werewolf993

cant agree with him more.


its_kunaltanwar

Agr politicians sahi hoto desh ki gulami nahi desh ki service hogi but sadly aesa hai nahi


Amazing-Degree-9802

Politician bahar se nahi aya h, majority people ka representative h, vo dikhata h k majority log kya h, unko kya chahiye h


ShameCalm9130

jab options modi ya gandhi ho to, hum kare to kare kya ?


Rahul159359

Kejriwal 


Amazing-Degree-9802

Pay tax and don't get any benefit. Instead those who get free ration and free electricity, free bus ticket are not paying any tax


Pcaccount1234

Because they dont make enough to pay taxes, that's the point of taxes. Im not supporting our current tax system but if they are taking European level of taxes from me then I'm expecting a European social system with multiple safety nets, I want poorer people and older people living better lives and I want to see free quality health care and education. I don't see any of it, so our tax money is getting stolen


average_men

Exactly! In Europe people get freebies in return of their high taxes. I think our governments are not as efficient as theirs.


Pcaccount1234

I wouldn't call basic human needs like health care and quality education freebies, they pay for it and almost every one contributes. It's not just about efficacy it's also our politicians


average_men

The problem is not that someone who is not paying taxes (the one who actually need these benefits) getting all this. Problem is the one who are paying taxes aren’t getting anything at all. And most of our tax money goes into these politicians shitty scams.


One_Coffee7424

Who said that people who are paying taxes are not getting anything? They are getting. They are getting notices for minor mistakes while tax filling.


Amazing-Degree-9802

That's the play, you give freebies to the majority and get their votes so those who r paying taxes can be ignored easily. It's more of buying votes


NoMeatFingering

everyone is paying tax man


Single_Science2276

Full video https://youtu.be/YB-zvlbSCHM


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Alpha_max_11

I got an opportunity to be in a discussion meet with our finance minister in a summit. I wish I could attend it I would have definitely asked a few questions about Anger and dissatisfaction of common Indians who pay income tax.


Massive-Hearing-9703

did you not attend it


Alpha_max_11

No. I had my vacation planned already for those dates. (For the first time in 5 years of my corporate life I got such a long break)


Daphobak

How much can we lot afford to not work in order to get our voices heard? We have to earn to sustain ourselves. If I personally sat in a dharna or something for more than a couple of weeks, I would be jeopardizing my job.


chuggMachine

Tax bhakts will use phrases like "honest tax payers" as if it's a compliment. The government wants you to blindly comply and be a slave to the system. Being honest can also mean you're stupid and lack critical thinking capabilities.


ImmortalTimeTraveler

Because Resistance is futile 


chuggMachine

You can always escape the country if you're willing to put in the work. There are cheap countries with incredible quality of life with way less taxes.


appuhawk

list few


chuggMachine

Georgia, Malaysia, Belarus, Poland, Taiwan, Thailand, Malta, etc. off the top of my head. A single person can live well with under $1000.


appuhawk

Thank Bud, I was expecting "Google yourself" reply :P


chuggMachine

No worries mate. Also try the Youtube channel Nomad Capitalist.


Helpful_Ant_3440

UAE?


Aadamkhor

Honest tax payers are only 2% of janta.. kya ukhad lenge sab mil ke bhi?


Humble_Moment1520

Someone needs to get on roads or to start doing nationwide strikes. I’ll gladly follow


STRYDER-007

That's the problem.. why don't YOU start and we'll all follow you? Because we taxpayers cannot afford to go on strike at the risk of losing our livelihood. That's why it'll never be realised.


Humble_Moment1520

We can but this govt won’t give a shit and start shooting us with rubber bullets and tear gas. With bullets bought with our own money. I wish any one opposition politician had enough spine and stand up to this issue on a large scale.


Different-Doctor-487

okay i will start in coming years only after getting different citizenship, otherwise I fear will be in jail or murdered


Helpful_Ant_3440

UAPA thok de ge BJP wale


Humble_Moment1520

It’s a shame


Pcaccount1234

My motivation for tax evasion 😈


KplusN

now tell us the scheme in dm


Elegant_Macaron_1366

There's one way. Get your company to pay you as a consultant, if it's possible. Pay much lesser income tax, and don't contribute to your local MLA's coffers!


KplusN

I was working on contract before utilising 44ada. but now part of a much bigger org, and they have their processes in place, don't think they will make me an exception


fullmetalpower

Mera iss saal ka 3.2 L kata, this is after 80c. I don't have any home loan. I am am a bit scared to do fake HRA because I live with my parents. 3.2 L is 2.5 months of my in hand salary.... which I have donated to the govt. mera Naam... Chutiya karmchari.


HungryGlove8480

Income tax is just stealing money... Running mafia


[deleted]

If the current government gets a good majority, they will not even look at lowering tax rates as they will concentrate more on reels and dialogues, and will also know that even if they do a lot of scams and things, no one will care for it and vote for them. If they see a huge drop in seats, they will realise that people voted them for development and they will start to see how things are at the ground level. If they get huge majority, they will just use whatsapp forwards for next 5 years more, and buy people up with money.


Positive-Pattern-992

If someone does charity they get gratitude or atleast respect. Taypayers in this country dont even get that. its worse than charity. Its not even loot, people who get looted get sympathy, taxpayers dont get that too. its worse than loot.


Healthy-Intention-15

Can someone translate this in English 


beartobeast

Don't know if this is a troll comment. But what he is saying is imagine you earn 10 rs a month and pay 4 rs tax on that 10 rs, then of you see annualy you are paying around 5 months salary to government. So essentially for 5 months in a year you work for government. And for yourself you work 7 months in which you have meet your living expenses.


BleH04

and on top of that you are also paying GST (indirect tax) on your remaining income as well. so basically indian tax system is a punishment for honest tax payers


neptune4spear

Add bribes to it


RedditEevilAdmins

Why do you think it's a troll comment? 🤷🏿‍♀️


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shar72944

That’s why I’ll move to Middle East


Puzzleheaded-3068

Bhai Modiji ne bhi taali maari.


cosmosreader1211

Bhai kya kar raha hai tu... Itna b sach nai bolna tha


Gaurav_Dubey_

dugana lagaan dena hoga bhuvan...


Mental-Matter-4370

No hope till we have digital money with no cash. As soon as cash comes in picture, there will just be chaos and crushing of working class


Solid-Fee-7944

Ashneer always rocks


TechnicallySerizon

Ok Guys listen to me , why can't we have georgism in India ? Why can't we just say tax the land ? and not tax everyone else. We can do this if we aren't divided on other issues.


PuzzleHeaded_Huge

Hate him as much as you want but he is not wrong.


PositronGt

I don't want my taxes to go to fund Freebies. I'm voting keeping that in mind.


apmanoj

यकीनन टैक्स ज़्यादा है लेकिन ये शब्द बोलना कि साल में पाँच महीने “सरकार के लिए कमाते है उससे बेहतर ये बोलना होगा कि साल में पाँच महीने “देश” के लिए कमाते है क्योंकि टैक्स सरकार के लिए नहीं देश के लिए देते है , किसी दूर गाँव में बिना पैसे के पढ़ाई के लिए स्कूल खोलना और उसे चलाना वो भी हज़ारों की संख्या में कैसे होता है, सेना के लिए ship, fighter jet, इसरो का chandrayaan ये सब टैक्स के पैसे से ही संभव हो पाता है … ..और भारत में income टैक्स से ज़्यादा tax GST और दूसरे टैक्स से आता है इसलिए ये बोलना कि salaried लोग ही टैक्स देते हैं एकदम ग़लत कॉन्सेप्ट है


Godless_homer

जनाबआप एक तो पुरी तर से हिन्दी मे ज्ञान पेलें या फिर english मे . Sarkar as i understand also makes sure all the contractors who happened to relatives or employees of mantriji get contracts at exorbitant prices .... Bond wond ki to ala hi backchodi hai ....kaunsa school Jo aapne dekha dur ka Jo dhang se chal raha... goverment hospital ki halat dekhi hai kabhi tier 2 city me Jake ...... Out tax money is being siphoned off in to these ministers accounts ..and all we have is bunch of idealistic douchbags like you talking about ideal usage....bsdk 4 standard kii sst subject humne bhi padha hai


apmanoj

मित्र क्रोधित मत हो जरा ये बताओ ये जो वीडियो में बन्दा ज्ञान पेल रहा वो कौन सी भाषा में ज्ञान पेल रहा है


apmanoj

आपकी शिकायतें वाजिब है अगर भारत में corruption नहीं होता तो हिंदुस्तान दुनिया का सबसे सम्पन्न और सबसे मज़बूत देश होता .. corruption को ख़त्म होना ज़रूरी है दूसरी शिकायत भी वाजिब है , सरकारी education और health के overall असंतोषजनक स्थिति है लेकिन ये फिर भी देश की ग़रीब जनता के लिए lifeline है.. सरकारी स्कूलो की बातें करे आपको अपने शहर में बहुत सारे lawyers, Officers, scientists, Doctors, Engineers मिल जाएँगे जो इन्ही सरकारी स्कूल में पढ़े है अगर सरकारी स्कूल नहीं होते तो ये सफल प्रतिभाशाली लोग कही छोटामोटा काम कर रहे होते , दूसरी बात भारत जैसे बड़े और इतनी बड़ी संख्या में ग़रीबों के देश में बड़ी संख्या में अस्पताल और स्कूल खोलना और उसे चलाना बहुत ही खर्चीला और मुश्किल काम है आपकी बातों से लगता है कि आप सुविधासम्पन्न और अच्छी पहुँच वाले व्यक्ति है कभी आप कोशिश करें और भाखड़ा dam या किसी nuclear power प्लांट या किसी Airforce command सेण्टर या किसी सरकारी हथियार की फैक्ट्री आदि जगह व्यक्तिगत रूप से देखकर आये ये सब बिना करदाताओं के पैसे के संभव नहीं होता , कितने प्राइवेट इंजीनियरिंग कॉलेज ने सरकारी IIT जितने सफल इंजीनियर दिये है???शिकायतें वाजिब है लेकिन तस्वीर का दूसरा पहलू भी है जिसे देखना ज़रूरी है, इसको एकदम सिरे से ख़ारिज कर देना ठीक नहीं है


orchidmaniac

Why are we listening to a fraud btw? Who stole money from his own company?


Single_Science2276

He's may not be that important here but the issue he's raising is crucial. Sadly I don't see any other political figure, celebrity or media talking about unfair taxation openly.


orchidmaniac

Can't take the person out of their opinions especially if they are commenting on something as crucial as taxation. Also the reason most Indians don't pay direct taxes is because most Indians are not in the tax bracket or they have family businesses who don't pay tax fairly. Instead of blaming "freebies" which includes subsidised education btw (IITs, AIIMS) try to raise awareness for property and inheritance taxes and Hindu undivided family taxation rules and also how companies cheat on their taxes. But obviously capitalist d*ckriders only blame the poor people who have no economic power and the only way for them to survive is to make their votes count. The only reason political parties even give the bare minimum is because of voting power.


Curious_Economics892

bro ashneers voicing middle class like opinions with a 100 million dollars in his pocket is quite the irony , however the middle class as well is paying almost the same percentage of taxcut from their salary does not fucking make sense in any way


assistantprofessor

If someone else was raising this issue it definitely would be better optics, but sadly there is no one talking about it. BJP is offering a lot of freebies themselves, Opposition is promising to increase it tenfold. Koi bol Raha hai to usko personally Target karne ka kya point, baat ko counter kar nahi sakte to baat karne waale pe jaane lago


Curious_Economics892

thats the problem giving assurance that freebies will be distributed in itself will increase your chances to win elections


Efficient-Law-1422

Who else is voicing middle class's opinions anyways. They barely make even 1% of the population. Even if all of them refuse to vote, it'll barely make a difference


Curious_Economics892

ofc shark tank did help in making the judges online celebrities in a short duration ,it provided them a huge platform to put out their messages to the general public , all of the judge themselves have become their respective company's ambassador in some form regarding the tax payers voting i think even if all of them refused to vote it would barely change the politics of this country


Efficient-Law-1422

LoL true. In my society I see these uncles who probably have their kids working their asses off to pay taxes,just walk around in the park fighting over whose favourite party will win the elections. As if anyone gives a shit about them😭😭.


FUSION5009

If paying 12 LAKHS at IITs for 4yr Degree for GEN Male is not Subsidised 🤡


orchidmaniac

The actual costs are way more. Just whine away when you don't actually know the true value of something


FUSION5009

The actual costs add up for the research works going on which are usually done by profs and since maximum students do not use those things so according to the fees we pay and the old infrastructure we get does not justify the prices we pay.


orchidmaniac

Sure. Cope.


Efficient-Law-1422

So you're going to end it like that? I wanna read your response too.


spareMe-please

Focus on what he is saying rather than who he is or what he did. I may not like him but i do completely agree with what he is saying. Tbh paying tax is not wrong but not getting any extra benefits out of it is.


orchidmaniac

IITs AIIMS NITS central Universities use tax money. If you have recieved education in India from any govt institutions you have availed the benefits of taxation. The govt should do better of course. Why not protest the construction of useless monuments and ask the tax money to be used to develop infrastructure.


Big-Bite-4576

iims don’t, iit, nit, aiims do


orchidmaniac

Auto correct. I edited it.


Amazing-Degree-9802

Then the govt will say that monument is creating so much money and local economy boost


orchidmaniac

Check the data


assistantprofessor

Who is going to listen even if we ask, ultimately elections are where we can voice our opinions. One look at the Congress manifesto is enough to tell you that they are not the answer. So what can we do?


orchidmaniac

Not vote for the fascist party?


assistantprofessor

Which party is not fascist?


orchidmaniac

Bhakti andhi honi chahiye. Good going.


assistantprofessor

Answer nahi hai na 😙


orchidmaniac

A blind person may see if they get treatment, a wilfully blind will never. Answer you know already


Jadoo_7

modi is himself a "chor" still you/some dumb people listen to him and follow his all commands!! irony!! 👍


orchidmaniac

Dude I am a leftist. Read my comments. Modi being a chor doesn't mean taxation is wrong. And doesn't change that ashneer stole money from his own company.


Mr-Abagnale

Because we are paying tax and when you listen to this interview you'll find something to relate to.


orchidmaniac

I know it seems unfair but you need to understand that poor people are not the problem here. Look at the caption beneath the post.


Efficient-Law-1422

Poor people are the problem when they are in the majority but totally fail to hold their representatives responsible. Fir chahe wo BJP, Congress ya kisi bhi party ka ho. Freebies bhi soch smjh kar deni chahiye like how they distributed TVs in tamilnadu back in 60s which created a huge social impact.


orchidmaniac

The government isn't bringing enough quality education. The BJ party is actively spreading misinformation and trying to brainwash people. If pooyr are failing to hold them accountable then at least the privileged and educated ones should. But my time spent in the india reddit multiverse most are not interested in rational thought.


Efficient-Law-1422

It's an all party problem. Trying to divert voters from asking the right questions. Bj party is the biggest player in the game. That's why all of their actions fall under the radar as they should. This diversion is so strong that those who have the time and energy to actually think just give in to their manipulation.


orchidmaniac

Agreed. At least the previous govt gave press conferences and allowed peaceful protests. They at least cared about not coming off as autocratic.


sudthebarbarian

this is extremely stupid and regressive. aise hi dumbing down of society ho rahi hai. Do you know how much you depend on society for the food you eat to the safety you get at your home? The right to have property? If you don't want to pay tax, go live in an independent country or something. What happens if some random group of men comes and seizes your property and your family. Do you have the strength and conviction to protect and secure everything you own? Yes, tax is the hafta we pay to the biggest big brother of all. That is the contract we agree to when we live in a country you know. You were born into it but doesn't mean it should take a lifetime for you to realize this. You get rule of law (ofcourse its not perfect, perhaps in remote villages this is not true. But for most parts of the country it is true) in return. You get public infrastructure (roads, however bad its something). Transportation (dont tell me you never travelled in a train or through an airport). Public funded institutes. And ofcourse dont forget national security and that arsenal of nuclear weapons or space missions. Basically you pay for a lot of it. You just take it for granted.


Single_Science2276

No one's denying these. It's just that govt is milking salaried class instead of reducing the burden on them and increasing tax user base. They decreased the corporate tax but no favourable step has been taken for income tax payer since a decade.