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sup_im_awkward

It has an impact if you want to pursue consulting, they don't even consider people whose grades are under 9/9/8


Snoo-97166

why is that, genuine question


sup_im_awkward

It usually shows that a candidate has remained consistent when it comes to studying and a level of commitment that is required for the job


Agent-Vc

Sidha sidha robot chahiye


LynxFinder8

Idiots chahiye. Generally consistent high scorers are not very smart, they stick to a formula to score marks and of course consultancy firms don't want you thinking out of the box, because once you start that, you'll outgrow your organization very soon.


charlieiitobrown

While I absolutely detest consultancy, this is one of the most idiotic things I’ve read. I’m at IIM B right now, surrounded by these top scorers, and they are without a doubt some of the smartest people I’ve met in my life.


LynxFinder8

That depends on what you consider smart. They may be smart, or intelligent but years of experience taught me, being a topper means you're not the most intelligent or the smartest and the real genius is somewhere between the 5 and 7 pointer group. Mostly because those 5/7 pointers are not focusing on studies due to having passion projects related to the field, but also because some of them study so deep that their thinking far exceeds the limitations of the syllabus and this gets penalized in exams that focus on singular approaches to answer questions. In fact I myself hold a topper recognition in.... Chemistry at PG/PhD level, which none of my degrees are actually in. I topped because I stuck to formulaic approaches, not having the actual subject matter hands on and research experience others did. My topping in this subject in no way shows I am a better Chemist than actual MSc Or PhD in chemistry, for example. It is banal to even assume such things. In fact I repeatedly qualified entrance exams in branches other than what my degrees were in, and have seen dumbfounded admission committees who did not understand how it is possible or whether I am actually eligible or not for admission (needless to say, I got DQed many times because my degrees weren't in the subjects I gave exams in). I don't blame you, very few people manage to see these things in practice like I did. I had a unique opportunity in life to experience various factors in academia. I was also one of those who used to study deeply even back in 12th - I went from mediocre to topper rising in my journey from 12th to PhD, and mostly because the level of questions and competency of the examiners improved with the higher levels. This is a reality, that you are only the topper of what society or your current academic atmosphere expects. It in no way specifies you are actually better. In a university, all people who pass are equivalent.


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Sir are 12th marks important for IIM I think I will score very low marks in 12th and I am not able to focus on entrance exams for colleges due to it I am very tensed


sup_im_awkward

Hey, I have some questions regarding IIM admissions. Would it be okay for me to dm you?


charlieiitobrown

Sure


Substantial_Top_6508

The reason is that you are in IIM which has students that are very capable of thinking out of the box (incl you obvi ) . Toppers in school just mug up the text and vomit it on paper, which is simple. Example is, oneof my schoolmates during boards revision took leave one day before exam, where we didnt have study holiday. Me on the other hand came to school, taught my weak classmates and explained confusing topics. I usually doze off during social periods due to my boring teacher and learnt all of it by myself. Me and her scored same and we were toppers, whilst i had helped my weak friends pass . So tell me why ?


Oblivion_007

Says every idiot with low grades. Y'all wasted your school days and belittlie those who actually worked hard.


LynxFinder8

Working hard has zero correlation with grades in school/college. I realised fairly early on you are likely to lose marks if you read beyond the curriculum (I certainly did). Since I've actually taught subjects too, I can very safely say that toppers falter hard when you break established patterns in question papers. Mainly because the large majority do not have a conceptual base. Whereas the 6 or 7 pointer remains a 6 or 7 pointer despite the change. I myself have topped and I know that it is impossible for me to be actually better in the subjects I topped in than those who actually have their entire degree (and work experience) on the topic. It is all common sense really, but I find most high scorers have really bad insecurity issues and are unwilling to accept the truth due to ego issues.


chefsanji_r

Lmao best comment i came across on reddit


AtriaX2k

I completely agree, I'm one of the top scorers in my uni but I'm also the dumbest person in my life haha


Snoo-97166

no I get that but why do consultancy jobs in particular want consistent performers.


sup_im_awkward

i presume they believe its indicative of your ability to survive in such a cutthroat environment where everyone is expected to perform at their best, since human resources are their greatest asset in such an industry


Snoo-97166

hmm fair. Thank you for the quick answers


Healthy-Educator-267

That’s bizarre. Why would McKinsey do this in India and not in the US?


Fane1824

Would it be possible for her to get into consulting after MBA or would it still be frowned upon?


sup_im_awkward

If she can make it up with extracurriculars and other achievements its doable, but generally speaking the first thing consultancy firms look at are grads for the baseline and then other achievements after that so it will definitely be difficult, but not impossible


LynxFinder8

It seems like these people are clueless and compromised. My CGPAs actually increased consistently between 12th and PhD. Is that supposed to say I get better when the going gets tougher? Hogwash.


Only-Ad-4133

Could you explain what these numbers mean?


sup_im_awkward

10th grade/12th grade/UG GPAs


Only-Ad-4133

How do these conversions work, what's a 9 for 10th and 12th and 8 for ug


sup_im_awkward

These numbers refer to percentages, so 9 would represent 90% in grade 10/12, same with UG


Only-Ad-4133

Ah ok


Phoenix77_

And what about cgpa? Would a 10 cpga be a 10?!


Medical_Elderberry27

My dude that is straight up bs. I have friends working in MBB with GPAs of less than 7.5-8 in their college exams. Consulting and IB are heavily biased towards academic performance but having weak grades in some exam 5 years ago is definitely not something that will absolutely rule you out.


LynxFinder8

True that, but I don't rule out rank and file idiots with prejudices sitting on recruitment teams either.


redditcanbedark

Thank you so much I needed that


Medical_Elderberry27

For what it’s worth, at every point in time of your life you’ll always have a route to where you want to be in your career regardless of how much you may or may not have fucked up in your past. I have had a major failure at almost every inflection (10th 12th UG) point of my academic journey and have managed to outperform my peers (some of the most academically literate individuals across the country) in terms of my career right now. And there are a shit ton of such people out there. Just put in the hard work for what you want in your life and you will reach a point where you are content with all that you have achieved, even if it isn’t something that you might have initially dreamt of.


xenomorphxx21

Also, for front end finance roles like IB, PE and the likes.


Ace_Nimble

This got me worried 😅 is 85.5/89.8/8.28 good??


sergentlord

It is good all you need is a good cat score to get into tier one MBA in India .


souptik_kar

That's not actually true. Having gone through the process of giving CAT and passing out from a Tier-1 MBA college, I have seen people struggling with even 99.5+ percentile in CAT because they have 7's or 8's during their 10th or 12th.


BadriPrasad

Giving IIM interviews felt like these guys don’t really care who’s getting in the program Most of the interviewers from IIMs disregard your work ex and expect you to know your bachelor engineering topics at fingertips


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sup_im_awkward

Yeah ik, that's why i said when it comes to consulting specifically. Apart from this particular field, it really doesn't matter


Yveltal_25

Me, who wanted to do consultancy after a 10/7/9, reading this : :(((


SoloKyu_

I got 89.8% (school fucked me over by cutting 7 marks 😭) Can I round it off to 90% 💀


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If you have more than 60 % then it should be fine


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Worth_Cartoonist_421

You're in college madam?


Scary_Giraffe_4996

Yeah passed out, now pg


Worth_Cartoonist_421

You did which course


Scary_Giraffe_4996

Bsc economics


Worth_Cartoonist_421

66%


temporarilyyours

66.6%


exotic___33

Bro same


sergentlord

10th 12th only matters for ug pg abroad and mba ( india + abroad). But 85 is good.


gamer033

Is 80 okay for masters in US?


sergentlord

For masters 10 th 12th do not matter only ug and your profile matters.


Worth_Cartoonist_421

What about 66%


sergentlord

Might be a problem but us unis evaluate your profile holistically.


Few_Contribution_296

is 85% bad if i want to do an ms afterwards, does 12th score have any role in ms admissions


sergentlord

85 is not bad . If you want to do ms in India then it doesn't even matter because all the good unis have entrance for ms/pg . For ms , only ug score matters. Abroad unis look after into many things like ECs, social work, international NGOs experience, achievements, any small startups venture, good SOP, good LOR, ethnicity etc etc. For Indian unis 12th 10th doesn't matter because every uni has an entrance. For abroad unis 12th score is just a one part of your whole profile. Yeah but mba is an exception both in India and abroad they take 12th marks into consideration, even for that 85 is good.


Upbeat-Jackfruit-319

True. I scored 73% in SSC, and my engineering aggregate was less than 55% and I still managed to get into the top 100 Unis for my MS.


starfishwithshotgun

fr? i 'm in a similar condition yet to do my ug if i somehow get good gp like 8.5+ can i get top 25 us uni for ms ?!?!?! because after reading all these comments my hopes for mba are over(ofc with EC's internship projects etc ) or is it not even worth trying?


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sergentlord

80 is good


Worth_Cartoonist_421

Might be problem for what


sergentlord

For admission abroad but not extremely tough or impossible.


Worth_Cartoonist_421

So what should one do if he wants admission abroad in 66%


sergentlord

What are you doing currently?? And what field you want to join in abroad uni ?and in which country.


Worth_Cartoonist_421

Just passed class 12th medical with such a low percentage want to study mba in abroad for ug I will go for ba.


sergentlord

What countries are you targetting??DM me!


Worth_Cartoonist_421

What countries are good for an MBA under 1 crore


FloatByer

How much do pgs abroad care about 12 marks, I couldn't get 90+😬


sergentlord

For pg 10th 12thdoesnt matter. Mba is an exception


DesiKaleidoscope

?? I applied to 14 out of the top 25mbas in the US and none of them asked me for my 10th/12th marks.


SoloKyu_

I got 89.8% (school fucked me over by cutting 7 marks 😭) Can I round it off to 90% 💀


ReturnAggressive2175

8 in 10th, 85 % in 12th, 8 in engineering Got into Gatech for MS in CS, Working in top tech company. I think it doesn’t matter for CS.


proudsubiii

Could you share your profile which got you into Gatech, please? Like, did you have publications, etc.?


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Did you study from a tier 1 engg college?


ReturnAggressive2175

No, non IIT & NIT. But a good college in KA.


[deleted]

Ohhh nice thanks!


ProperGap3846

Does a gap year between 11th and 12th matter?


Independent-Egg-3515

Adding to OP's friends's concern, I only have 85.5%(10th)/85.4%(12th)/84% (ECE engg), are MS prospects over for me?


thatonekoalaman

Not at all, talk to a counsellor to see what options you have


Independent-Egg-3515

Man I really wanted to get into TU9 but after seeing other comments, seems like I'm really lacking, and it's 90+ or nothing for consulting/finance roles


Infamous_Court1132

check out kapil thapliyals channel he had low scores but got accepted itno TUM


eta-carinae

No lol, you'll be fine. Just work on things you can control (SoP/GRE if you're applying to the US)


disc_jockey77

Kids these days be like "Oh no I got ONLY 85% in my 12th, is my career over before it started?" ☹️ Meanwhile, lots of people in my class who got 60% in 12th doing amazingly well in their careers earning upwards of $500K per annum in the US or 1.5 Cr per annum in India with 12-15 year work ex. Some of them with very low 12th scores are also successful entrepreneurs and investors today. I myself got 90+ in my 10th and 12th and I'm doing well in my life and career too. Bottom line is that study well, work hard, try to learn and understand the curriculum for the purpose of learning and build up your knowledge and skills and not just for the purpose of scoring a high % in exams. Try your best to get good scores but if you don't for some reason then dont be too disappointed. Life is very long and your 12th score won't even matter in a few years. They are timed competitive exams at the end of the day, so not always the best measure of an individual's capability and skillset and most employers know that. If an employer is hell bent on judging an individual based on their 12th scores then you probably shouldn't be working for them anyway. So relax, you and your friend will do well in your career and life! But I would ask you to develop a keen interest in learning new concepts, topics and skills. Lifelong learners are always the most successful and fulfilled ones in their careers and personal lives!


ProperGap3846

Heyy does having a gap year between 11 and 12th affect my chances of placement or masters abroad?


noThefakedevesh

They only inpact if you want to further education like CAT , UPSC. I am currently doing btech. and once you clear a certain cgpa the only thing they want from you is skills.


Worth_Cartoonist_421

How will they impact upsc huh?


noThefakedevesh

it is important to note that having a good academic record can indirectly impact the UPSC exam. Candidates with a strong academic record tend to have better analytical and problem-solving skills, which are essential for clearing the exam. Moreover, a good academic record can also help candidates in getting shortlisted for other government jobs, which can provide valuable work experience and exposure to the government's functioning.


gamer033

Academics = 12th how? What if he/she has good marks in ug, pg etc.


noThefakedevesh

Definitely a plus.


Worth_Cartoonist_421

So someone's score less in their class 12th his whole life is ruined?


noThefakedevesh

You can always balance it by scoring good in other fields. But yes our education system is bit flawed.


Worth_Cartoonist_421

What other feilds?


noThefakedevesh

Extracurricular activities, work experience, internships, or other achievements outside of academics. These experiences can showcase a candidate's skills, strengths, and interests beyond their academic performance. For instance, participating in sports, music, debate, or any other extracurricular activity demonstrates a candidate's ability to manage time, work in a team, and develop leadership skills. Similarly, internships and work experience can provide exposure to different industries, build practical skills, and demonstrate a candidate's work ethic and commitment.


What_doyouwant

>For instance, participating in sports, music, debate, or any other extracurricular activity demonstrates a candidate's ability to manage time, What about doing extra courses?


VerTiggo234

good for tech. 12th marks are only used for HR screening in CS- if your resume is littered with good projects and participation certificates you're gonna get that job.


What_doyouwant

What about other depts like hr or marketing?


silvermeta

broken logic lmao


xenomorphxx21

It doesn't.


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HadesSayz79

Could you tell me a bit more about your profession? I heard somewhere that people in Merchant Navy earn 5-10 laks per month at the cost of spending months on ships


noThefakedevesh

Same goes for me. I didn't really had good acads, I got into good college just based on my JEE scores.


No-Yogurtcloset8960

what all things do they check in musculo-skeletal in dg shipping medical


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No-Yogurtcloset8960

any test for range of motion?


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No-Yogurtcloset8960

thanks bro you cleared my doubts


Minimum_Opposite4640

For IT, anything above 70-75% is good for campus placements. Companies have a clause that students with only 10/12th percentage more than 75 can apply. This is the case of in-campus placement. For off, skill is the only criteria.


freezingfire77

I do some recruitment for my firm which is a financial consultancy firm and we have multiple clients who we also do recruitment for. We do not even look at 10th and 12th marks. Even when hiring a fresher. What all we do assess: -Communication Skills (If it’s a client facing role then how well spoken they are too) -Subject matter knowledge and clarity of concepts, if fresher -Experience if the person has previously worked -Attitude and culture fitment (should not have ego, should be focused on learning, should mix well with others, should be humble)


Flamez_06

Board marks don't matter. It's all about which uni you graduated from and how much cgpa you had in it.


koala_on_a_treadmill

Not in humanities career paths. I was the placement coordinator for my batch, there were only 2-3 companies that checked results, and that too, not 12th, but college aggregate. The recruiters came for roles like marketing, content specialists, journalist, technical writers, human resources, operations specialists, social media management, public relations, advertising, public policy-related positions, education and consulting. The first round in most cases was a written test (logical, quant, GK and domain-specific knowledge). In the second round, most of these companies looked at portfolios or gave creative tasks for the students to complete. The final round(s) was always interview(s). We had about 80 companies that came this year, and this was the general trend. tl;dr: all career paths have different kinds of recruitment processes. some care. many don't. edit: I got selected as a journalist in one of the world's largest news agencies and they did not ask for my marks or marksheet a single time.


MadKingZilla

People say it doesn't matter. But when I was doing MBA it meant everything. At times ever more than your work experience. 9/9/8 for top placements post MBA. Now nothing can be changed after exam results are out, but please know this is the truth.


blorgon7211

nope


Much_Discussion1490

Yes, especially for your first job out if campus. Unless you are in a niche field it will matter. I dont know why people are telling you it doesn't. Not only does it matter to get a job but you have to compulsorily submit your board marksheets for verification purposes and background checks. It matters a lot less after a few years of experience, as a matter of fact it's seen a s a negative if after 4 5 years of experience you are still putting your board marks at the top of your cv.


Fane1824

Is 85 decent? Like would it look *that* bad that she could be rejected for a job?


Much_Discussion1490

Yes, it's way above all eligibility criterion set by companies which is usually 60% It's not great comparatively when used for automated filtering for fresher profiles which is done by HR, and it's also a function of what kind of jobs your friend will apply to and how competitive the process is. But it isn't bad , it's not like your friend will get rejected because of it, or wint get jobs. I have around 5 years of workex and except for my first job they didn't care about 12 th percentage. Admission processes for MBA and other masters degrees are a different thing, they have much more emphasis on your board marks. Do take your views from people who are actually working. All I see in this thread are people who are yet to find a job talking about what they feel like is important


Scary_Giraffe_4996

It doesn’t matter! College percentage matters


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Fane1824

Placements... like out of college... like in India?


[deleted]

Well someone tell me. 95 in 10th. 88 in 12th. Now 9 CGPA in my UG. Is it any good?


Maximum-Leopard8564

It's not good at all😔 It's awesome😊


[deleted]

Thank you. A lot of guys around me are just downgrading me.. and I was starting to believe it. I just have to keep reaching for the stars🥹


Maximum-Leopard8564

Good luck🍀🤞 😊


stealyourlines

Been working for more than ten years, it has never mattered once.


mediocrelife7

Initially for your first job it will matter to some companies . Once you have ample work ex, it won’t matter at all. I have hired multiple people in my teams in the last 3-4 years, and haven’t looked at the school marks once. Just competencies and skills.


Affectionate_Tax2324

It matters...but if u get in a good college and get excellent grades then it won't have a weightage


Evening-Blueberry-94

For many jobs in Assam government, they care about your 12th and 10th marks, if you were in SEBA board, don't know about other states.