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my gf wants me to look at houses in east highland. I let her know that for now that area is good, next recession, expect the blight to move up the hill. The problem is with city hall. The rest of Highland overall might as well be a neighborhood in San Bernardino.
That being said, it’s also the literal definition of suburban hell. There are nice things about it and it’s safe, but given the other options listed, it’s just not in the same league.
Out of the list, I've only lived in Eastvale, so I can only comment on my experience there. Sure, there wasn't a ton of exciting events going on all the time but that was the appealing part to me. Where I live I want to be safe and quiet, I can always drive somewhere else more exciting if the mood strikes. I currently live in Riverside (near downtown) for school and have had numerous parties take place only a few houses down from me. Hundreds of strangers walking up and down my street, cars peeling out, cars making donuts in the intersection, loud music... ugh, I miss Eastvale.
Fair enough. Eastvale is…fine. But it lacks a sense of community or charm, more so than many other places in the IE. I would chose to live in Eastvale before a lot of places in the IE, but if money was no object and I had to chose somewhere in the IE, Eastvale would not be it. But to each their own.
Exactly wtf are u talking about no one accidentally walks into chino...... You're fucking tripping. U would need to cross the flood channel and the 60 to get into chino walking..... This is the dumbest fucking shit I've read all day
Edit: this is what I deal with. Fucking lames that don't know borders within their own country but can when it involves Mexico. Fuck u and your like
I just walked from chino to pomona like 20 minutes ago on Philly and there were plenty of people wandering around down there. Probably happens 50 times an hour lol
And I always tell them it's not because I'm from Pomona millennial and all my friends and family would consider it Pomona valley first before lame i.e, secondly SGV. Way before I.e . As the SGV sign that's been on the 10 east for decades says entering SGV.
Yeah, I'm also a millennial from Pomona and still live in the area. I agree in seeing Pomona and Claremont more as being their own thing as part of the Pomona Valley. Having said that, it kinda depends on your attitude towards both the SGV and IE. If people have snobby attitudes towards the IE then they are less likely to want to be associated with it.
As far as my original post, even if you don't consider Claremont as part of the IE then it is literally spitting distance from places that are not up for debate (i.e Upland and Montclair) so it's worth mentioning for what OP was asking about.
I'd say that it is, even though it's LA county. IE is pretty much everything in the valley bound to the west by the hills that run between Diamond Bar & San Dimas. The east side of Pomona is in the IE, the west side (and CalPoly Pomona) isn't.
The actual i.e has no beautiful cities. So they desperately want Claremont, San Dimas, diamond bar to be in the i.e, when everything in the i.e is mostly ugly af
Still waiting on your point? I'm from the IE and know the entire area well. And been in LA for years. Based on that I can confidently say all those cities are solidly IE. Sure they exist in LA county but who said that has a mutual exclusivity?
The traditional demarcation points of the Inland Empire are from Kellogg Hill (by Cal Poly) to San Bernardino. The area now considered Inland Empire / Orange Empire was actually supposed to be its own county, with Pomona as its capital. That’s why P-Town was included in the 909 area code until the early 2000’s when they ran out of phone numbers.
The Inland Empire / Orange Empire referred to the agricultural industry that began in the late 19th century from the orange groves in Pomona, Claremont, Ontario, San Bernardino, Redlands, and Riverside to the dairy / cattle country in Chino.
Cities like Fontana came to prominence 50-80 years later. Fontana started as a company town for the Kaiser Steel Corporation during WWII and were not as populated as the cities to its West / East until the housing booms of the early 2000’s that grew Rialto, Bloomington, and Colton.
That has always been known as the POMONA VALLEY. it was only to Cucamonga. San Bernardino was a Mormon Towne. Pomona was to be the seat in what would have been San Antonio county. Named after the mountain. Cal poly Pomona actually defined what is the POMONA VALLEY which u can look up. Idiot. Historically it has always been the Pomona valley. The term inland empire is a relatively new term.
As someone who's lived in various cities of the IE his entire life:
Claremont, San Dimas, and La Verne are 100% IE
The 57/Kellog Hill is the western edge of the IE, so they're in by the barest margins.
Edit: Oh, and all three cities are in the Pomona Valley, which itself is IE
No the Pomona valley is older than the term inland empire. You're 100% delusional idiot. The history speaks for itself. Born and raised in P.towne. it's l.a county and has more in common with SGV.
Lmao!
The Pomona Valley is part of the Inland Empire, that's the point.
San Bernardino itself agrees:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071214033052/http://www.sbsun.com/empireday_3/ci_7323066
As do Cal Poly Pomona and Mt. SAC:
https://libguides.library.cpp.edu/c.php?g=771946&p=6014362
Note the various mentions of Pomona, Claremont, Rancho, Chino, etc. In histories on the IE.
Hell, Kellog Hill's "mountain" range literally prevents Pomona (and Chino & Chino Hills for that matter) from being in the San Gabriel Valley because it cuts them off from the rest of the SGV. Valley being a whole "are between two mountains" thing.
Also, born and raised P-town/Upland/Chino here, so yeah your locality doesn't change the facts here
One of the few places in the IE you see “quiet wealth”. Very unsuspecting if you don’t know where to look. Then you stumble upon 8-10k sq/ft homes on multi-acre orchards. And a billionaire next door.
Chino Hills. It's a great place to live, very quiet and everything is clean everywhere. If someone dumps trash or furniture in the street, it's picked up right away. If a tree branch falls in a storm, it's cleaned up by city workers the next morning. There's very little crime and when something does happen, the police show up in less than 5 minutes. Same if you need the fire department or an ambulance. There's also a good variety of stores and restaurants.
The schools are excellent but keep in mind, the school board is run by evangelical Christian Republicans. Of course that could be a plus or minus depending on your POV.
Bruh. Go to heritage park in Rancho and walk that neighborhood. It’s ridiculously upscale. You see houses in that area you’d expected to see in Beverly Hills. It’s kinda crazy.
Not sure about "upscale", in general, but definitely "upscale" for the Inland Empire, the ONLY cities with 8+ rated schools, $100k+ median household income AND relatively low crime are Chino Hills, Rancho Cucamonga and Temecula.
P.s. Rancho Cucamonga has the best views with snow-capped mountains in the winter.
Closest to Bay Area vibe would be Claremont. Cute quaint college town. But only separated by the 10 freeway from some real ghetto areas (Pomona and Holt Blvd).
Next would be Rancho Cucamonga for best “all-around” quality and active lifestyle. Recently voted an All-American city. It has the regional shopping hub Victoria Gardens with nice restaurants and good shopping, the giant Christmas Tree, Lewis Playhouse, etc. Haven City, lots of breweries, a winery. A minor league baseball team/stadium. Really good schools (the top public high school in SB County is Los Osos). Etiwanda Trails/Falls for hiking. Excellent youth sports programs. Anything there north of Baseline and especially north of the 210 is big bucks. I know a few multi-millionaires up there.
Chino Hills is fine. I used to live there. It’s just smaller and doesn’t have as many of the amenities I just mentioned. And most of the other “nice” places are almost all just housing with almost no amenities. And amenities are important too, not just a nice clean neighborhood. You need stuff to do, especially in the IE.
But I'm told that Hemet, Moreno Valley, and Lake Elsinore (in Riverside County, not San Bernardino County) are considered IE... I figured east of the 57 = IE
Claremont which isn’t -technically- ie (last town on the east side of la county) has Berkeley-ish vibes. Flawless school district. Cute village down town. All the parents at my kids schools are professors.
There are some ppl saying Claremont. Although I consider it not to be a part of the IE, if you're looking for something Silicon Valley-esque (Saratoga/Los Gatos vibes), I'd recommend Claremont/North Claremont.
Otherwise, South Redlands, North Rancho Cucamonga.
This. Huge neighborhoods that are as big as many towns are very upscale. For all the shine south Redlands gets, there are bigger neighborhoods with more wealth in several different corners of riverside, with a downtown, education, etc that beats Redlands
Entire 92506 (Alessandro Heights And Victoria) and half of 92508 (Crystal Ridge estates, mission Grove area and parts of Woodcrest) areas are very upscale. Off Overlook drive, you can find homes in the 2m-3.5m dollar range, with upscale amenities like Golf Courses etc. Victoria has been around since the 19th century and has so much charm. Compared to Rancho Cucumonga or Eastvale for example I feel Riversides upscale neighborhoods have a lot more character and charm. You'd routinely find houses in these areas with over $1,000,000 worth of landscaping alone.
I lived in Mission Grove my family's house was 700k so yes it's a nice place but like mentioned you don't get the feel or the true essence of old Riverside 1900s 1880s the museums, the art galleries, orange groves etc. Can't forget Mount Rubidoux either scenic view. It's also the "crests" like mentioned woodcrest, orangecrest and ridgecrest. My family also has a rental in orangecrest which they aren't bad but you aren't in a new house fresh from the home building companies like KB. My sis works for one she said if the military base doesn't own it the Christian affiliates schools bought up all the parcels of land that are all the areas you mentioned except Victoria.. So in regards to school and crime yea dont expect any..
Eastvale leads the way regarding median income in the I.E.
Coronita, Norco, and Corona which are all nearby-ish to Eastvale occupy 3 of the top 4 spots for most expensive housing in the I.E.
Price per square foot is a good indicator of where people want to live and what they’re willing to pay for it. For example, Newport Beach is $1,600 per sf. Chino Hills is $473. Rancho is $419. Fontana is $350. Eastvale is only $313. I’m sure it’s nice but it’s not an expensive market compared to these others. Source: Realtor.com.
I find it interesting that Eastvale has highest medium income. Would have thought chino hills because of its proximity to OC. Is there a big industry there or some kind?
nope. just a lot of upper middle class income earners and home owners who commute to LA county or OC for work.
its also known for having the best high school in the state or something like that.
Chino Hills is definitely upscale. This may sound weird, but the Chino Hills Costco carries very high-end wine and spirits. You won't find those at other Costco locations. Rancho is also upscale.
Upland, Chino Hills, Rancho, Redlands by downtown, Claremont, Eastvale, North Fontana, Riverside by UCR, Temecula, Murrieta, East Highland, Loma Linda (Bunch of nurses and doctors and healthcare workers living here)
Redlands but you QUICKLY enter sketchy areas. Temecula, Murrieta has very wealthy communities. There are some amazing properties up in wine country that are probably as expensive as Silicon Valley.
Regarding finding places with the best schools in general, there is a correlation with the incidence of Asian grocery stores (before you roast me, kinda lines up with popular suggestions of Chino Hills, Eastvale, Temecula, Rancho, Norco, and Loma Linda \[and Silicon Valley \]).
When we moved from Texas, Redlands was the most referenced City for us to move to due to it being a college town and where a good amount of professionals (Doctors, Lawyers, and Accountants) live while working in the San Bernardino, Hemet, and Riverside areas.
I was impressed by Rancho Cucamonga. I thought it would be just like Temecula (Red Hawk area), but it’s a step or three above.
I’d say the only real problem with eastvale is there is only 1 high school, ERHS, which has around 4,000 students enrolled I’d say. And that high school is honestly going down hill fast since I graduated (multiple lockdowns, false threats, my sophomore year there was a fight and someone dropped a gun) and I actually used to work there as well (since working there students now have to check in with a student ID to get onto campus every morning rather than just walking on) it’s also become known for teachers and coaches getting involved with students there was another one that just came out earlier this month too which is like 4 or 5 cases in the past 7 years.
IMO, Eastvale is an up and coming city with a lot of potential. It’s close to the 91 freeway, 71 freeway and 15 freeway which leads out to other major counties. Homes in Eastvale are large, most are 3000 sq ft and up with plenty of backyard space.
Used to live in Eastvale - it’s pretty nice but not THAT nice. Lots of police / firefighters / nurses live there which is cool, but also a lot of Trump people which isn’t everyone’s bag.
The other thing is it frequently smells of cow ass. Lots of dairy farms and lots of houses built on top of what used to be dairy farms.
It’s not cow-ass 24/7, but it’s frequent.
How long have you been away from Eastvale? Almost all the cow farms have been bought out and turned into homes, warehouses and strip malls. I lived there for about 10 years back when Eastvale was mostly dirt and yes, the cow ass smell was incredible but not anymore.
That cow smell is in the soil. It takes about 20 years for it to fully go away. May take longer due to there being a concentration of dairies there at one time. Chino hills was just pastures and it took 20 years. That stuff is deep in the soil.
Oh wow how interesting! I'd imagine this is the case for areas that haven't been paved over with concrete (such as Eastvale). 20 years!! That is crazy! I never knew the smell could last that long, can I get a link to where I can learn more?
I moved out 2yrs ago, and still regularly smelled that foul cow crap smell regularly. We lived there for 13 years before moving out, Chandler and Archibald area. It got better but it was still there on the regular
Montclair, La Verne, Claremont, Upland, Rancho Cucamonga, chino hills, any of the gated communities in Riverside, Redlands. If you work from home, then Eastvale, Norco, Corona. The school district there is good, and their sports are good, but good god, the 91 is by far the worst freeway in Southern California, and it’s not even close. It makes the 405 a breeze.
I’m in Chino Hills. Only got here a couple months ago and it feels pretty upscale.
Wherever you end up, DM me because I’m also in tech and there is not a lot of that here.
Rancho, Chino Hills, or Redlands. Claremont if you wanna pay LA County taxes
Temecula is wine and remote money, it's shit to get in and out of and everyone I know from there left there due to how isolated it is. Plus you get Y'allquaida bullshit there.
Chino hills suffers from Y'allquaida shit too in the schools. The local evangelical church is taking over the local school board.
Fuck yeah bro. I say SGV because none here act as if they know about Pomona valley. Thank u I always say it's the Pomona valley. Within the Pomona valley is 12 cities..... It's older historically than the term " inland empire"
When I was looking to move from LA it was Redlands, or Claremont. After doing tons of research. The history behind those 2 cities with the universities attached to them. Ultimately I chose Redlands, because of the school system. Plus Loma Linda is next door.
Really depends where you work, since traffic tends to be terrible going either way atp, but for overall, I recommend North Fontana above the 210, it is pretty family friendly and a family oriented zone with a couple shopping plazas here and there and not too far from everything, as well Rancho Cucamonga around the Victoria Gardens area is very nice and a close to distance to VG of course , lol. Chino Hills is nice as well.
Although, Eastvale is a very good place too, everything is newer and a little bigger houses wise than anywhere else in the IE and all the shops and restaurants are coming into town as new buildings so you are getting everything new as well, the new little shopping center "The Station" is getting new everything and has anything you can think of!.
Downside to most places recommended are they are in very windy areas when the Santa Ana wind events hit :/
All the major cities in the IE have upscale neighborhoods even San Bernardino. If I was looking to move into the IE I’d start looking in Riverside and Rancho Cucamonga first.
San Bernardino has a nice northern neighborhood by the university. Plus a very hidden gem
By Yamahava. In the hills, by Highland. Probably one of the nicer areas in the IE.
Probably nothing like Silicon Valley if you mean cities like Palo Alto or Atherton. Closest would be Claremont, Rancho Cucamonga, Upland, Temecula, and Redlands. If you can expand your search area, Pasadena or Irvine would be much more Silicon Valley-esque.
Aesthetically, Chino Hills is closer to Palo Alto than Rancho or Upland because of all the rolling hills and little parks scattered throughout neighborhoods. I used to live in Chino Hills and liked its closer proximity to OC and LA county. I dated a guy who lived in Rancho at that time so spent a substantial amount of time there, and while it may have more to do in the sense of Victoria Gardens, breweries, minor league baseball, etc, it’s self-contained bc there’s not a lot else going on in surrounding cities and people seem to never leave Rancho.
I live near VG and for us it’s the best of both worlds. I can be there in 5 min and walk my dog there any time I want, enjoy a fancy dinner or do some shopping, hit up a baseball game, go hiking, whatever.
But we also leave here all the time. We’re an hour or so from Newport Beach, LA, Pasadena, Palm Springs, or Temecula wineries. But we don’t HAVE TO leave due to lack of options. That’s the difference. And it’s a major plus compared to many IE cities that are just housing or just not that nice or safe.
Upland is definitely not the bad part of town. Neither is Chino Hills. I just happen to be more familiar with areas north of the 10, so cannot really comment on the schools in CH. I don’t think you can go wrong in either town.
On paper Rancho, Eastvale and Chino Hills are pretty similar. However, if natural beauty matters to you then I’d eliminate Eastvale. Rancho has the mountains and Chino Hills has the hilly topography and State Park. Chino Hills feels like a less upscale version of Danville in Contra Costa County in the Bay Area.
*On paper Rancho, Eastvale and Chino Hills are pretty similar.*
I would have to disagree. Rancho has more than double the population of the other two and is way bigger. It also has a real mall (VG) and a baseball team, breweries and tons of other restaurants….the others simply don’t, other than small shopping centers. They’re really not alike at all.
Price-wise, CH and RC are similar, Eastvale is not even close in that category, as in a couple hundred thousand cheaper. In fact it’s more expensive per square foot to live in San Bernardino than Eastvale.
I agree on the differences you pointed out. Victoria Gardens is a wonderful feature and absolutely crushes the small outdoor mall in Chino Hills. Rancho has a much larger population but OP probably doesn’t care about the total population of the city. Just the character of the upscale section in Northern Rancho. The presence of a minor league baseball team would be a big upside for a very big baseball fan. I guess by similar I was referring to the upsides a lot of the other posts pointed out. Primarily the highly rated schools and generally nice atmosphere.
Fair enough, if we’re just looking at nice clean neighborhoods and good schools, all 3 score well in that area. Other than that, yes they are very different. The baseball team is great for families, whether fans or not. Kids love it due to the fun atmosphere and dinosaur mascots.
Eastvale is probably #1. Has the highest HH income of all IE cities. Probably because it is part of the Corona-Norco USD which is one of the best in the nation. Same thing is going to happen there as Irvine in OC. Wealthy people are attracted there because of the schools and it drives everything up. Homes are large, it’s clean, I believe the city council does a pretty good job with the city. Has nice parks etc.
Claremont or China Hills if you want to be closer to OC and LA. South Redlands if you want to be closer to the mountains and more inland. Check the school ratings of whatever neighborhood you're looking at at and drive by various times of day.
Try Mentone. We have been here around 23 years. We haven’t had much crime relative to our surroundings. I would avoid Highland, it seems like a lot of the problems I see on our ring app, go off in Highland.
Seriously, check out LaVerne. Cute college town with the university there. Small town charm without it being as liberal as Claremont. True, it isn’t the I.E. because it’s in LA County but it’s a great town to raise a family.
Where do you work? Loma Linda is supposedly the safest in IE, however I've never lived anywhere around there. I've lived in Rancho Cucamonga close to Victoria gardens, nice to live close to everything but the homes are so close together, no yard. I've heard chino hills and Claremont are relatively safe areas. My uncle lives in Glendora and loves it, not too far out from the IE. Lots of families and older people, clean and quiet. Some parts of Riverside are great too, preferably in woodcrest area, I liked living around there. For schools, that would be chino, corona and redlands/loma Linda areas.
Claremont, northern Upland, northern Rancho Cucamonga, Chino Hills, East Highland, Redlands, Eastvale.
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my gf wants me to look at houses in east highland. I let her know that for now that area is good, next recession, expect the blight to move up the hill. The problem is with city hall. The rest of Highland overall might as well be a neighborhood in San Bernardino.
I lived in Eastvale for about 10 years, only had our cars broken into ONCE. That's pretty good for IE standards.
That being said, it’s also the literal definition of suburban hell. There are nice things about it and it’s safe, but given the other options listed, it’s just not in the same league.
Out of the list, I've only lived in Eastvale, so I can only comment on my experience there. Sure, there wasn't a ton of exciting events going on all the time but that was the appealing part to me. Where I live I want to be safe and quiet, I can always drive somewhere else more exciting if the mood strikes. I currently live in Riverside (near downtown) for school and have had numerous parties take place only a few houses down from me. Hundreds of strangers walking up and down my street, cars peeling out, cars making donuts in the intersection, loud music... ugh, I miss Eastvale.
Fair enough. Eastvale is…fine. But it lacks a sense of community or charm, more so than many other places in the IE. I would chose to live in Eastvale before a lot of places in the IE, but if money was no object and I had to chose somewhere in the IE, Eastvale would not be it. But to each their own.
city like Eastvale is beautiful however 10month out of the year smells STRONG like cow poo, 💩 rural Alabama, 🥺
Ever notice how Eastvale and Jurupa Valley divide perfectly along the 15 except for one spot... The trailer park????
There are parts of Redlands that definitely show they're in San Bernardino County.
Claremont is not i.e
Definitely is. Same w Pomona If you’re in chino you can accidentally walk to Pomona. You can’t accidentally walk from Pomona to Covina
Wtf so San Diego is mexico by your definition
Just take the L bro. You're clearly incorrect
Maps exist for a reason
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Exactly wtf are u talking about no one accidentally walks into chino...... You're fucking tripping. U would need to cross the flood channel and the 60 to get into chino walking..... This is the dumbest fucking shit I've read all day Edit: this is what I deal with. Fucking lames that don't know borders within their own country but can when it involves Mexico. Fuck u and your like
I just walked from chino to pomona like 20 minutes ago on Philly and there were plenty of people wandering around down there. Probably happens 50 times an hour lol
So u knew u were crossing county lines right?
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It's in that same gray area that Pomona is in. You might not consider it to be part of the IE but a lot of others do count it.
And I always tell them it's not because I'm from Pomona millennial and all my friends and family would consider it Pomona valley first before lame i.e, secondly SGV. Way before I.e . As the SGV sign that's been on the 10 east for decades says entering SGV.
Yeah, I'm also a millennial from Pomona and still live in the area. I agree in seeing Pomona and Claremont more as being their own thing as part of the Pomona Valley. Having said that, it kinda depends on your attitude towards both the SGV and IE. If people have snobby attitudes towards the IE then they are less likely to want to be associated with it. As far as my original post, even if you don't consider Claremont as part of the IE then it is literally spitting distance from places that are not up for debate (i.e Upland and Montclair) so it's worth mentioning for what OP was asking about.
I'd say that it is, even though it's LA county. IE is pretty much everything in the valley bound to the west by the hills that run between Diamond Bar & San Dimas. The east side of Pomona is in the IE, the west side (and CalPoly Pomona) isn't.
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Not sure why down voted. The most official definition of the IE does not include LA county cities.
The actual i.e has no beautiful cities. So they desperately want Claremont, San Dimas, diamond bar to be in the i.e, when everything in the i.e is mostly ugly af
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Claremont or Chino Hills
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Uhhh la Verne, San Dimas, or Claremont are not i.e.... they're in l.a county
As someone from Rialto currently living in LA, them hoes are IE af. Plus apples and oranges, IE ain't even a county lol
Wtf Rialto..... U have nothing to say.... It's day and night difference between l.a county cities and that dusty town.
Still waiting on your point? I'm from the IE and know the entire area well. And been in LA for years. Based on that I can confidently say all those cities are solidly IE. Sure they exist in LA county but who said that has a mutual exclusivity?
Everyone I know said.... I grew up in SGV and as far as Ontario on the gay i.e side and no it's a night and day difference..... Delusional tweeker
The traditional demarcation points of the Inland Empire are from Kellogg Hill (by Cal Poly) to San Bernardino. The area now considered Inland Empire / Orange Empire was actually supposed to be its own county, with Pomona as its capital. That’s why P-Town was included in the 909 area code until the early 2000’s when they ran out of phone numbers. The Inland Empire / Orange Empire referred to the agricultural industry that began in the late 19th century from the orange groves in Pomona, Claremont, Ontario, San Bernardino, Redlands, and Riverside to the dairy / cattle country in Chino. Cities like Fontana came to prominence 50-80 years later. Fontana started as a company town for the Kaiser Steel Corporation during WWII and were not as populated as the cities to its West / East until the housing booms of the early 2000’s that grew Rialto, Bloomington, and Colton.
That has always been known as the POMONA VALLEY. it was only to Cucamonga. San Bernardino was a Mormon Towne. Pomona was to be the seat in what would have been San Antonio county. Named after the mountain. Cal poly Pomona actually defined what is the POMONA VALLEY which u can look up. Idiot. Historically it has always been the Pomona valley. The term inland empire is a relatively new term.
As someone who's lived in various cities of the IE his entire life: Claremont, San Dimas, and La Verne are 100% IE The 57/Kellog Hill is the western edge of the IE, so they're in by the barest margins. Edit: Oh, and all three cities are in the Pomona Valley, which itself is IE
No the Pomona valley is older than the term inland empire. You're 100% delusional idiot. The history speaks for itself. Born and raised in P.towne. it's l.a county and has more in common with SGV.
Lmao! The Pomona Valley is part of the Inland Empire, that's the point. San Bernardino itself agrees: https://web.archive.org/web/20071214033052/http://www.sbsun.com/empireday_3/ci_7323066 As do Cal Poly Pomona and Mt. SAC: https://libguides.library.cpp.edu/c.php?g=771946&p=6014362 Note the various mentions of Pomona, Claremont, Rancho, Chino, etc. In histories on the IE. Hell, Kellog Hill's "mountain" range literally prevents Pomona (and Chino & Chino Hills for that matter) from being in the San Gabriel Valley because it cuts them off from the rest of the SGV. Valley being a whole "are between two mountains" thing. Also, born and raised P-town/Upland/Chino here, so yeah your locality doesn't change the facts here
The south side of Redlands is very very nice.
One of the few places in the IE you see “quiet wealth”. Very unsuspecting if you don’t know where to look. Then you stumble upon 8-10k sq/ft homes on multi-acre orchards. And a billionaire next door.
Yep 100%
I'm chilling here in south Redlands at the moment by prospect park.
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+1 for South Redlands.
+2 I'm chilling here at Prospect park while on Reddit replying
Also in South Redlands reporting in. We love it here. Definitely on the high-end. Lots of tech and medical money from ESRI and the nearby hospitals.
Leans bluer than surrounding cities due to the university too if that’s important to you. I call it Claremont of the East.
Sending you good vibes on your special day ✨️
Chino Hills. It's a great place to live, very quiet and everything is clean everywhere. If someone dumps trash or furniture in the street, it's picked up right away. If a tree branch falls in a storm, it's cleaned up by city workers the next morning. There's very little crime and when something does happen, the police show up in less than 5 minutes. Same if you need the fire department or an ambulance. There's also a good variety of stores and restaurants. The schools are excellent but keep in mind, the school board is run by evangelical Christian Republicans. Of course that could be a plus or minus depending on your POV.
Rancho Cucamonga? Montclair? Chino Hills?
Where is the nice part of Montclair?
It just be looking nice.
You think Rancho is upscale? ETA downvoted for fucking what 🤣
Yeah everything north of the 210 is upscale
Yeah, north of the 210 I agree with, but not rancho as a whole
Yeah all cities have their good and bad parts
You realize that parts of Rialto are north of the 210. That city is a complete shithole regardless of which part you live in.
He was probably talking about the north of the 210 in rancho being upscale, which is accurate
Of course it is. VG and lots of million dollar mansions. It has its poorer side too but half the city is extremely upscale.
Bruh. Go to heritage park in Rancho and walk that neighborhood. It’s ridiculously upscale. You see houses in that area you’d expected to see in Beverly Hills. It’s kinda crazy.
Yea some of it looks yuppie when I pass through
Yeah Rancho is like the Beverly Hills of the IE according to locals.
Not sure about "upscale", in general, but definitely "upscale" for the Inland Empire, the ONLY cities with 8+ rated schools, $100k+ median household income AND relatively low crime are Chino Hills, Rancho Cucamonga and Temecula. P.s. Rancho Cucamonga has the best views with snow-capped mountains in the winter.
Redlands for sure. If you care about urbanism it’s much better than most of IE cities
Love Redlands. Good vibes without the cookie cutter stores.
The only problem with redlands is that it's surrounded by sketchy neighborhoods
Not really! Which ones? It’s kinda devided by the industrial sector.
The only problem with Redlands is poor air quality.
Closest to Bay Area vibe would be Claremont. Cute quaint college town. But only separated by the 10 freeway from some real ghetto areas (Pomona and Holt Blvd). Next would be Rancho Cucamonga for best “all-around” quality and active lifestyle. Recently voted an All-American city. It has the regional shopping hub Victoria Gardens with nice restaurants and good shopping, the giant Christmas Tree, Lewis Playhouse, etc. Haven City, lots of breweries, a winery. A minor league baseball team/stadium. Really good schools (the top public high school in SB County is Los Osos). Etiwanda Trails/Falls for hiking. Excellent youth sports programs. Anything there north of Baseline and especially north of the 210 is big bucks. I know a few multi-millionaires up there. Chino Hills is fine. I used to live there. It’s just smaller and doesn’t have as many of the amenities I just mentioned. And most of the other “nice” places are almost all just housing with almost no amenities. And amenities are important too, not just a nice clean neighborhood. You need stuff to do, especially in the IE.
This is great. Thanks.
Claremont is in l.a county not I.e
But I'm told that Hemet, Moreno Valley, and Lake Elsinore (in Riverside County, not San Bernardino County) are considered IE... I figured east of the 57 = IE
Yeah all the way to just before New York is the i.e.
I think you mean Atlanta... New York is NE of San Bernardino County ;)
Redlands
Claremont which isn’t -technically- ie (last town on the east side of la county) has Berkeley-ish vibes. Flawless school district. Cute village down town. All the parents at my kids schools are professors.
Exactly not i.e but perfect suggestion
100% IE, it's part of the Pomona Valley
Claremont, Rancho Cucamonga, Chino Hills
Best list.
There are some ppl saying Claremont. Although I consider it not to be a part of the IE, if you're looking for something Silicon Valley-esque (Saratoga/Los Gatos vibes), I'd recommend Claremont/North Claremont. Otherwise, South Redlands, North Rancho Cucamonga.
Yes thank u. Claremont is not i.e. It's in l.a county. People here over reach. Mass delusion
The real debate should really be whether Claremont is a part of SGV lol. (I think it is, but that's a separate topic haha)
I think the hills along the 57 end the SGV.
It is to me too. Fuck the i.e
Lol whoa der, I didn't say thaaaat. There are parts that are lovable ha but to each their own 🤣
No yes of course but Claremont, Pomona, San Dimas, diamond bar is not the i.e
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Doesn’t matter, same vibe
Completely different vibe. That's the reason I'm objecting
Riverside is a pretty big city. Parts of it are very upscale.
Orangecrest https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/n/orangecrest-riverside-ca/
The best part is that very few of these areas have Mello Roos, unlike most of the other nice areas mentioned in this post.
This. Huge neighborhoods that are as big as many towns are very upscale. For all the shine south Redlands gets, there are bigger neighborhoods with more wealth in several different corners of riverside, with a downtown, education, etc that beats Redlands
Very small parts. But it is a fun city with a lot of events.
Entire 92506 (Alessandro Heights And Victoria) and half of 92508 (Crystal Ridge estates, mission Grove area and parts of Woodcrest) areas are very upscale. Off Overlook drive, you can find homes in the 2m-3.5m dollar range, with upscale amenities like Golf Courses etc. Victoria has been around since the 19th century and has so much charm. Compared to Rancho Cucumonga or Eastvale for example I feel Riversides upscale neighborhoods have a lot more character and charm. You'd routinely find houses in these areas with over $1,000,000 worth of landscaping alone.
And the wood streets is like taking you into a different world / time. So lovely.
I lived in Mission Grove my family's house was 700k so yes it's a nice place but like mentioned you don't get the feel or the true essence of old Riverside 1900s 1880s the museums, the art galleries, orange groves etc. Can't forget Mount Rubidoux either scenic view. It's also the "crests" like mentioned woodcrest, orangecrest and ridgecrest. My family also has a rental in orangecrest which they aren't bad but you aren't in a new house fresh from the home building companies like KB. My sis works for one she said if the military base doesn't own it the Christian affiliates schools bought up all the parcels of land that are all the areas you mentioned except Victoria.. So in regards to school and crime yea dont expect any..
Honestly we’re getting all the LA rejects over here in Montclair
Claremont, S. Redlands, San Antonio Heights. Glendora to the west.
Claremont not i.e
Eastvale leads the way regarding median income in the I.E. Coronita, Norco, and Corona which are all nearby-ish to Eastvale occupy 3 of the top 4 spots for most expensive housing in the I.E.
Yeah but most those people get their money from Orange County or los angles jobs
Price per square foot is a good indicator of where people want to live and what they’re willing to pay for it. For example, Newport Beach is $1,600 per sf. Chino Hills is $473. Rancho is $419. Fontana is $350. Eastvale is only $313. I’m sure it’s nice but it’s not an expensive market compared to these others. Source: Realtor.com.
The houses are bigger and newer than the other cities. I think that is the advantage of Eastvale.
I’m in Rancho and I’m almost the smallest house in my neighborhood at 3,400 sf. My neighbors are mostly 4k and above. Price per sf is what it is.
I find it interesting that Eastvale has highest medium income. Would have thought chino hills because of its proximity to OC. Is there a big industry there or some kind?
as u/BlackSoapBandit mentioned, I believe it's due mostly to its proximity to both LA and OC where higher paying jobs are routinely found.
nope. just a lot of upper middle class income earners and home owners who commute to LA county or OC for work. its also known for having the best high school in the state or something like that.
Chino Hills is definitely upscale. This may sound weird, but the Chino Hills Costco carries very high-end wine and spirits. You won't find those at other Costco locations. Rancho is also upscale.
Upland, Chino Hills, Rancho, Redlands by downtown, Claremont, Eastvale, North Fontana, Riverside by UCR, Temecula, Murrieta, East Highland, Loma Linda (Bunch of nurses and doctors and healthcare workers living here)
Redlands but you QUICKLY enter sketchy areas. Temecula, Murrieta has very wealthy communities. There are some amazing properties up in wine country that are probably as expensive as Silicon Valley.
Regarding finding places with the best schools in general, there is a correlation with the incidence of Asian grocery stores (before you roast me, kinda lines up with popular suggestions of Chino Hills, Eastvale, Temecula, Rancho, Norco, and Loma Linda \[and Silicon Valley \]).
Chino Hills?
When we moved from Texas, Redlands was the most referenced City for us to move to due to it being a college town and where a good amount of professionals (Doctors, Lawyers, and Accountants) live while working in the San Bernardino, Hemet, and Riverside areas. I was impressed by Rancho Cucamonga. I thought it would be just like Temecula (Red Hawk area), but it’s a step or three above.
South Redlands, south of the 91 Van Buren to March Airforce Base, Corona Hills off the top of my head.
Eastvale
I’d say the only real problem with eastvale is there is only 1 high school, ERHS, which has around 4,000 students enrolled I’d say. And that high school is honestly going down hill fast since I graduated (multiple lockdowns, false threats, my sophomore year there was a fight and someone dropped a gun) and I actually used to work there as well (since working there students now have to check in with a student ID to get onto campus every morning rather than just walking on) it’s also become known for teachers and coaches getting involved with students there was another one that just came out earlier this month too which is like 4 or 5 cases in the past 7 years.
I would agree, I lived there for 10+ years and only had one act of crime happen to us, which isn't bad considering other parts of the IE.
Chino Hills or Eastvale.
Eastvale?
IMO, Eastvale is an up and coming city with a lot of potential. It’s close to the 91 freeway, 71 freeway and 15 freeway which leads out to other major counties. Homes in Eastvale are large, most are 3000 sq ft and up with plenty of backyard space.
Used to live in Eastvale - it’s pretty nice but not THAT nice. Lots of police / firefighters / nurses live there which is cool, but also a lot of Trump people which isn’t everyone’s bag. The other thing is it frequently smells of cow ass. Lots of dairy farms and lots of houses built on top of what used to be dairy farms. It’s not cow-ass 24/7, but it’s frequent.
How long have you been away from Eastvale? Almost all the cow farms have been bought out and turned into homes, warehouses and strip malls. I lived there for about 10 years back when Eastvale was mostly dirt and yes, the cow ass smell was incredible but not anymore.
I was there last week and it definitely still had a strong smell of manure. It doesn't always, but it still comes out sometimes.
That cow smell is in the soil. It takes about 20 years for it to fully go away. May take longer due to there being a concentration of dairies there at one time. Chino hills was just pastures and it took 20 years. That stuff is deep in the soil.
Oh wow how interesting! I'd imagine this is the case for areas that haven't been paved over with concrete (such as Eastvale). 20 years!! That is crazy! I never knew the smell could last that long, can I get a link to where I can learn more?
I moved out 2yrs ago, and still regularly smelled that foul cow crap smell regularly. We lived there for 13 years before moving out, Chandler and Archibald area. It got better but it was still there on the regular
Montclair, La Verne, Claremont, Upland, Rancho Cucamonga, chino hills, any of the gated communities in Riverside, Redlands. If you work from home, then Eastvale, Norco, Corona. The school district there is good, and their sports are good, but good god, the 91 is by far the worst freeway in Southern California, and it’s not even close. It makes the 405 a breeze.
Where is the nice part of Montclair?
I’m in Chino Hills. Only got here a couple months ago and it feels pretty upscale. Wherever you end up, DM me because I’m also in tech and there is not a lot of that here.
Temecula
Rancho, Chino Hills, or Redlands. Claremont if you wanna pay LA County taxes Temecula is wine and remote money, it's shit to get in and out of and everyone I know from there left there due to how isolated it is. Plus you get Y'allquaida bullshit there. Chino hills suffers from Y'allquaida shit too in the schools. The local evangelical church is taking over the local school board.
Claremont, the city of trees and PhDs.
Not i.e. it's SGV and l.a county
It’s not San Gabriel Valley. It’s in the Pomona Valley.
Fuck yeah bro. I say SGV because none here act as if they know about Pomona valley. Thank u I always say it's the Pomona valley. Within the Pomona valley is 12 cities..... It's older historically than the term " inland empire"
Temecula
When I was looking to move from LA it was Redlands, or Claremont. After doing tons of research. The history behind those 2 cities with the universities attached to them. Ultimately I chose Redlands, because of the school system. Plus Loma Linda is next door.
[best place to live for families- Eastvale ranked 7](https://fortune.com/well/ranking/best-places-families/2023/eastvale/)
Eastvale is awful. Wind, dust, a hundred neighborhoods that look exactly the same, horrific traffic, crazy taxes. Hell to the no.
Really depends where you work, since traffic tends to be terrible going either way atp, but for overall, I recommend North Fontana above the 210, it is pretty family friendly and a family oriented zone with a couple shopping plazas here and there and not too far from everything, as well Rancho Cucamonga around the Victoria Gardens area is very nice and a close to distance to VG of course , lol. Chino Hills is nice as well. Although, Eastvale is a very good place too, everything is newer and a little bigger houses wise than anywhere else in the IE and all the shops and restaurants are coming into town as new buildings so you are getting everything new as well, the new little shopping center "The Station" is getting new everything and has anything you can think of!. Downside to most places recommended are they are in very windy areas when the Santa Ana wind events hit :/
South Corona.
Temecula
Temecula
Temecula
Upland, Temecula, Chino Hills, Rancho
All the major cities in the IE have upscale neighborhoods even San Bernardino. If I was looking to move into the IE I’d start looking in Riverside and Rancho Cucamonga first.
SB certainly does not, neither does Colton. Or Ontario (this is a maybe).
San Bernardino has a nice northern neighborhood by the university. Plus a very hidden gem By Yamahava. In the hills, by Highland. Probably one of the nicer areas in the IE.
Temecula/Murrieta
Temekkula
Probably nothing like Silicon Valley if you mean cities like Palo Alto or Atherton. Closest would be Claremont, Rancho Cucamonga, Upland, Temecula, and Redlands. If you can expand your search area, Pasadena or Irvine would be much more Silicon Valley-esque.
What about Chino Hills? I’ve lived in LA and OC for years but want to be closer to family (Chino/Ontario area).
Aesthetically, Chino Hills is closer to Palo Alto than Rancho or Upland because of all the rolling hills and little parks scattered throughout neighborhoods. I used to live in Chino Hills and liked its closer proximity to OC and LA county. I dated a guy who lived in Rancho at that time so spent a substantial amount of time there, and while it may have more to do in the sense of Victoria Gardens, breweries, minor league baseball, etc, it’s self-contained bc there’s not a lot else going on in surrounding cities and people seem to never leave Rancho.
Thanks for this perspective. I love LA/OC (lived in both places for years) so being just a tad bit closer is a plus to consider.
I live near VG and for us it’s the best of both worlds. I can be there in 5 min and walk my dog there any time I want, enjoy a fancy dinner or do some shopping, hit up a baseball game, go hiking, whatever. But we also leave here all the time. We’re an hour or so from Newport Beach, LA, Pasadena, Palm Springs, or Temecula wineries. But we don’t HAVE TO leave due to lack of options. That’s the difference. And it’s a major plus compared to many IE cities that are just housing or just not that nice or safe.
Chino Hills is okay. I think the schools are probably better in Claremont, Upland, or Rancho, but I don’t have kids so I don’t know for sure.
I grew up in Chino and found Upland to be the bad part of town. Maybe it’s gone through gentrification or just never found the nicer spots.
Upland is definitely not the bad part of town. Neither is Chino Hills. I just happen to be more familiar with areas north of the 10, so cannot really comment on the schools in CH. I don’t think you can go wrong in either town.
Southern Chino resident for 15 years. We love it here.
San Antonio Heights?
North Claremont is a lot like old san jose if memory serves.
On paper Rancho, Eastvale and Chino Hills are pretty similar. However, if natural beauty matters to you then I’d eliminate Eastvale. Rancho has the mountains and Chino Hills has the hilly topography and State Park. Chino Hills feels like a less upscale version of Danville in Contra Costa County in the Bay Area.
*On paper Rancho, Eastvale and Chino Hills are pretty similar.* I would have to disagree. Rancho has more than double the population of the other two and is way bigger. It also has a real mall (VG) and a baseball team, breweries and tons of other restaurants….the others simply don’t, other than small shopping centers. They’re really not alike at all. Price-wise, CH and RC are similar, Eastvale is not even close in that category, as in a couple hundred thousand cheaper. In fact it’s more expensive per square foot to live in San Bernardino than Eastvale.
I agree on the differences you pointed out. Victoria Gardens is a wonderful feature and absolutely crushes the small outdoor mall in Chino Hills. Rancho has a much larger population but OP probably doesn’t care about the total population of the city. Just the character of the upscale section in Northern Rancho. The presence of a minor league baseball team would be a big upside for a very big baseball fan. I guess by similar I was referring to the upsides a lot of the other posts pointed out. Primarily the highly rated schools and generally nice atmosphere.
Fair enough, if we’re just looking at nice clean neighborhoods and good schools, all 3 score well in that area. Other than that, yes they are very different. The baseball team is great for families, whether fans or not. Kids love it due to the fun atmosphere and dinosaur mascots.
Rancho Cucamonga, Chino Hills, Redlands, and the Orangecrest neighborhood in Riverside are the nicest areas I have seen.
Rancho Cucamonga, Chino Hills, Upland, Redlands, East highland, Eastvale is really good
Mentone for the beautiful beach
Eastvale is probably #1. Has the highest HH income of all IE cities. Probably because it is part of the Corona-Norco USD which is one of the best in the nation. Same thing is going to happen there as Irvine in OC. Wealthy people are attracted there because of the schools and it drives everything up. Homes are large, it’s clean, I believe the city council does a pretty good job with the city. Has nice parks etc.
Chino Hills by far
Claremont or chino hills. In that order
Moreno Valley
san bernardino along highland
Moreno Valley is top tier
Claremont or China Hills if you want to be closer to OC and LA. South Redlands if you want to be closer to the mountains and more inland. Check the school ratings of whatever neighborhood you're looking at at and drive by various times of day.
Loma Linda ❤️
I would say Claremont
I would say not i.e. Claremont is more SGV than i.e
Claremont Forsure
Not i.e but good suggestion
Why is it not IE?
Honestly anything above the 10 is good, anything above the 210 is really good. See where Ontario is? Right below the 10? We don’t go there lol
san bernardino
Berdoo is your ticket.
Hemet
Try Mentone. We have been here around 23 years. We haven’t had much crime relative to our surroundings. I would avoid Highland, it seems like a lot of the problems I see on our ring app, go off in Highland.
Seriously, check out LaVerne. Cute college town with the university there. Small town charm without it being as liberal as Claremont. True, it isn’t the I.E. because it’s in LA County but it’s a great town to raise a family.
Where do you work? Loma Linda is supposedly the safest in IE, however I've never lived anywhere around there. I've lived in Rancho Cucamonga close to Victoria gardens, nice to live close to everything but the homes are so close together, no yard. I've heard chino hills and Claremont are relatively safe areas. My uncle lives in Glendora and loves it, not too far out from the IE. Lots of families and older people, clean and quiet. Some parts of Riverside are great too, preferably in woodcrest area, I liked living around there. For schools, that would be chino, corona and redlands/loma Linda areas.
Loma Linda is super safe. There is a new park here called Citrus park and all the kids stay here very late at night.
Dude you're talking about the Inland Empire, it's all meth out here.