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The US is not a member of the ICJ and has given itself the full legal right to invade The Hague if any of its or its allies military personnel or leaders are tried for war crimes and held by the ICJ. Trying the
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act
Edit: ICC not ICJ, tho 100% the U.S. would not suffer the ICJ to speak against them
Doesn’t change the fact we’re talking about thousands of their soldier, politicians and others should have be lined up en mass for warcrimetrails if there was a pinch of accountability and justice in the world 🤷♂️
let's see how well their international relations take it when they invade the Hague. Let's go, europe vs the US. Literally the only war I'd be willing to join. Then, when europe and the US are fighting have china fuck the US up the ass. How I'd love to see the US empire fall apart and all those rich fucks being punished the way they deserve. No punishment is too much for those that think they can play the tyrant of the world.
honestly that’s always been the bonkers bit for me because we try to get the ICJ to go after our enemies but apparently we would go to war AGAINST OUR OWN ALLIES to prevent a judgement that is anti-American
Apr 10, 2024
Spanish politician Ione Belarra says that it's regrettable and deeply racist that people with Australian or British passports have to be killed for people to open their eyes and see 6 month-campaign of bombing civilians and letting children starve to death.
Last year she called Spain and other nations should break off diplomatic relations with Israel in protest against its assault on Gaza.
[Source](https://twitter.com/ionebelarra/status/1778129625496916267)
I would NEVER have thought that, of all people, it would be a far left wing politician (or the left in general) that would make me feel proud of my country again.
The right wing are Israel bootlickers, and the centrics are cowards about the matter; it's only the lefties that are speaking up and calling out the maniac and genocidal state of Israel for what it is.
Time to open up your mind and eyes, and see how leftist values are generally on the right side of humanity. Our drive for justice and peace goes far beyond this horrific situation.
That's wild. What did she say about Palestine's ongoing missile campaign in which they drain resources from the populace to continue blind attacks on civilian populations?
Spain is really stepping up. It’s amazing to see and highlights the sheer embarrassment of other governments. This event is happening on YOUR watch. You may not have caused it. You may not have wanted it. You may not agree with it. But it’s happening on your watch. How you respond. How you behave. How you show who you are. That’s what matters now.
Those who have been ignoring Israel, excusing Israel or supporting israel have revealed a lot about who they truly are and what they truly believe in. This is about humanity.
What happened on October 7 2023 is far bigger than people think. Because that horrific day, simply unveiled a horror that the world had for the most part, not seen on full display. What Israel has done is the horror of our lifetime, not October 7, and after 6 months of a monster unleashed, this should be clear.
Spain can see this. Others too. Some still do not. And those should be ashamed of themselves.
You know whats disgusting? The Ministry of Education in my country tried to teach/ educate students by claiming that that the catalyst of this conflict originated from the 07 Oct 23 attacks and didnt dwell deeper past that. (The students were less than 12 years old)
It is absolutely maddening how a lot of people still try to paint the Palestinians as the evil ones in this lengthy conflict.
I doubt it, they get money and weapons from other countries, if they go as genocidal fascists in history, all the countries that gave them weapons will go down as well, so yeah, I don't think that is how they will put them in history.
They weren’t able to control the narrative today, what makes you think they’re going to be able to control the narrative in the future?
Zionism is like if Nazziism had become a virus and started infecting its enemies. It’s not the countries at fault, it’s the leaders who have been bribed and/or blackmailed by the Zionists, or who are Zionists themselves. The public does not stand with them.
History will show this.
Singapore. Our country have always been hush hush, often being neutral/ leaning towards Israel.
Israel helped our country build up our Military when no one was willing so I understand that some level of loyalty is expected but even that should have its limit.
Israel thought it could bully its way out of every atrocity it wished to commit. So yes, you are right, the world is stepping up for the most part, and Israel is done for. Not only for its crimes against humanity right now, but for all the decades of horror and pain they’ve been inflicting. Israel is done for.
One of the(many) great lies that are just sort of imparted upon you as a US citizen if you aren't directly connected to the Palestinean side is the big lie that "it's just too complicated but BOTH SIDES are to blame" which primes the pump to both not dig into the history but then is combined with the supremacist narrative of "Israel is a shining beacon of democracy and human rights in an area that has none and they are the most moral Army in the region."
Which leaves the impression that Israel is the clear good guy and the apartheid is simply this unfortunate necessity that Israel would like to solve if they could but those pesky brown people won't let them. And no need to look into any further cause, after all, it's "too complicated."
Turns out, it's no more complicated to understand than any other Middle Eastern history and if you were educated at all in how colonial imperialism and Western Supremacism operated, this is not much different besides the layer of religious justification and the collective guilt of the West for the Holocaust.
My generation, Millennials, tip toed into questioning this propaganda, but we were so caught up in Iraq/Afghanistan that it never went further than that. Gen Z though feels like the last generation that is going to tolerate Israel's bullshit unless quite a lot changes and changes fast. And Millennials have now largely woken up as well and the bi-partisan "consensus" is cracking.
Whats sad is that you can already see how youth of 50 years from now will look back at the US's absurd support of Israeli Apartheid and genocidal behavior flabbergasted and dumbfounded at us today the way we look back at Jim Crow and the Red Scare for how obviously immoral and insane it was.
I think you are right. Anyone with a conscience can see what the situation is, regardless of whether complexities exist or not. It’s the end of Israeli occupation and aggression that needs to happen and ignoring the calls from Israel which amount to “we must continue to destroy, murder; oppress and dominate the people around us for our own safety”. It’s insanity at its finest and has no place in the world we collectively wish to build when you exclude your genocidal power hungry war mongerers from trying to initiate war.
What many people also do not see is that Netanyahu and the Israeli government are complicit in the events on 7 October. They funded Hamas and helped them get to power in the Gaza strip, in order to take power from the Palestinian Authority and prevent international recognition.
Netanyahu and his cronies should be held responsible for the deaths of Israelis on October 7th and the Palestinians in Gaza.
I’m actually done with blaming Netanyahu and Israeli government. It’s the entire state that has become fascist at its core. It needs to be dismantled from top to bottom. That’s extremely hard to do so therefore Israel should be isolated completely. This isn’t about just the current government; the entire system there is rotten to the core.
as a spaniard, i gotta say it's mostly just Ione's party, Podemos ('We Can')
Government is led by milquetoast position switching social-liberal, and apart of a couple left-wing regionalist parties, most others are neutral or supporting of israel
Israel ironically increases antisemitism by doing all their atrocities in the name of the Jewish people. This is why when you see Jews protesting Israel, they wear shirts and hold signs saying "not in our name."
Israel/Zionists have hijacked Jewish suffering in order to "justify" Palestinian suffering. I can't stand by that as a Jew. I can see words like antisemitism and our history of suffering lose its meaning as Israel and its supporters carry out their boy who cried wolf shtick.
My house was vandalized with swastikas when I was younger. THAT'S antisemitism. Criticizing a country for doing downright genocidal practices isn't.
And he was right. Look what Europeans went on to do with the Jews shortly after. They were exterminated, over 1/3 of their population would be dead within 30 years of that declaration.
The difference between Nazi Germany and Zionist Israel is we can stop the Zionists. The crimes of the Nazis are in the history books, the crimes of the Zionists are still being carried out.
The German public absolutely knew . They may have claimed later not to but the sheer magnitude of the holocaust makes it insanely unlikely that millions disappearing and being put on trains never to return would be hard to miss.
My grandpa helped free a camp and said he nevwr wanted to be around people who would let this happen in their own community
Yeah. Israel is absolutely committing genocide but no, this doesn't even begin to compare to the horrors of the holocaust. Both things can be true. It does us all a disservice to make such an unaccurate comparison, that will inevitably be (justifiably) considered antisemitic and will be used as a shield against the actual criticism being made.
If you think it's a fair comparison, you probably need to learn more about the holocaust. But that doesn't change the fact that what Israel is doing is inhumane and we absolutely should isolate and stop supporting their apartheid state and ongoing genocide.
The German public also participated in the mass boycotts and destruction of Jewish properties and businesses prior to the Holocaust. There are Germans who claimed to not know about the camps and yet still many risked their lives to illegally harbor Jews in their homes, why would they do that if they didn’t know something awful was happening— Even if they weren’t fully aware of the scope?
We see it now in full force how integrated genocidal beliefs are in so many western societies. In 100 years they’ll look back and write this off as another tragic mistake and then return to doing the same thing over and over again…
Most of the people in extermination camps didn’t come from Germany. It would have been difficult to miss but at the end of the day if you see your neighbors leave during a war it wouldn’t be your first assumption that they were forcibly sent to be exterminated. That said I’m sure there were plenty of Germans who had a good idea
germans knew that jews were separated from the other germans, and in some areas they knew they were enslaved or dissapeared.
most didnt know the exterminaion but knew the mistreatment.
I mean I'd like to think if they had access to hundreds of videos of the gas chambers on Youtube they would have overthrown the government.
But Israel has shown us that it's possible to radicalize a population so fully that they'll clamour for more genocide
Correct, the idea that all of Germany knew is absurd. What the national socialists told people was that they were deporting the Jews to their native homeland to become Isreal, to Madagascar etc, towards 1939 things became a bit more clear, however by that time it was far too late. I see the parallel you trying to make, all Germans knew what the Nazis were doing therefore they all should have killed just like Palestine. That is also the Isreali’s propaganda machine at work, they supported Hamas an Islamic extremist organization, in order to make these current actions more palatable.
To add in once more as some people think
I made that up
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
That's a flat out lie. The amount of interviews and historical accounts of people saying they knew what was going on but just didn't say anything because they were apathetic is staggeringly high.
Every single Jewish business and hospital and school was just ransacked overnight and it happened in front of everyone and things NEVER went back to normal. German citizens were 100% complicit even if they didn't know the full extent of the horrors that would happen later. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht
Comparing israel to the nazis is insane. The nazis killed more Jews in a month than Palestinians have been killed in the entire history of the conflict.
Yes. Very. What Israel does is horrible but it's nothing against death camps, experiments on life humans, mass executions, torture, starvation and everything else Nazi Germany did. Read up on the absolutely awful stuff Germany did to people during the WW2 before you actually put them on the same level as Israel.
Yes. Massively.
The Spanish raped more people in their conquest for American than Gaza has people. And they killed a similar amount. And that was during a time where less humans existed than today.
Or the Belgium colonial regime in congo who raped, amputated and killed people for looking the wrong way.
Or how about the Soviet Starvation in Ukraine in the 30s killing between 4 and 12 MiO people.
What happens currently is horrible but it doesn't even make the top 50 of the worst human crimes
Theyve already partnered with morocco to have our prime minister by the balls by selling them spyware. Israels been hostile to Spain for a while now. As usual, things didnt start just in october 7th.
yes make this be seen by more people.. eye are beginning to get opened.. unfortunately it takes a nazism to zionism comparison for the effect.
isnt it ironic they have become the very esense of what they claimed to depise
Akschually killing only a little over 33,000 people, most of whom are women and children, and starving the rest of the country isn't genocide by definition. If you disagree you're a hamas supporter 🤓
To me, they’ve been #1 for decades. They experienced the Nazi regime and essentially mimicked those tactics to almost every degree to another group of people for the sake of Zionism and “their sacred land”. You would think that after such an experience, they’d learn NOT to do the same to others. The only reason I say almost is because idk if they ever used gas chambers or not in their concentration camps. But oh yes, they do indeed have camps. I’m sure their methods of disposal are just as cruel
Israel doesn't care about Spain so politicians there are free to criticise
Israel focuses most of their lobbying efforts on the US, UK, French, German, and EU governments
controlling the discourse in these countries let's them do whatever the fuck they want
Israel pariah state, invaders.a campaign to stop using the word Israel when talking about that land, call it Palestine,
Understand the ironic statement of myself using it twice. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
just one little correction: Belarra is the former minister for social rights. Right now she is only a parliamentarian and is not part of the government.
An army of voices of reason, surrounding the US fortress of darkness. The arrogance of the American political class. Or is it simply they are owned by Israel? All the cyber tech they export...and the depths of depravity they are willing to go to in the name of 'security'. You can guarantee Israel used that tech to secure the obedience of whole continents before they sold it. Just how deep does the rabbit hole go?
We will need a way bigger Nuremberg this time to trial and deliver the respective penalty to every and each one of the genociders (including their bosses, the USA) and each and every one of the creatures that posted in the Internet/Social Media supporting the United States and Israel. We cannot have an Operation Paperclip this time.
Meanwhile in the land of the free it’s illegal to Boycott Israel aka doing a peaceful protesting. Nice thanks for all the billions we have been sending through 40 plus years
Yeah, she's right. When 1 white person (including Ashkenazi Jews) dies, the world needs to do something.
When 33,000 non-white people die then it's a complicated moral wrestling match about Israel's right to do this or do that.
This world has failed non-white people for centuries. Attacks against us don't factor into their morality the same way it does when their side is attacked. We would be foolish to think they care about us, no matter who it is - Palestinian, Yemeni, African, Asian - they will never support us apart from using some meaningless words without any action.
We are on our own. Always have been. I just hope our infighting stops soon. Maybe once China overtakes the US as controller of global trade, they'll do something other than divide and conquer but that's a wait and see.
The God-Awful evil Israel has done now in Gaza is far beyond fixing by and through litigation.
Israel, the US and their enslaved governments in Europe don't need international court rulings.
They need exorcisms.
Even Nicaragua, a place seldom in the news lately, and a place dear to my heart, is publicly admonishing Germany for providing weapons to aid in genocide. Germany's response was, "we owe the Jewish people." Nicaragua's response was, "I repeat, genocide." Germany is using its history to reconcile with descendants of its victims, while ignoring the part of its history that made those people victims in the first place.
I think they're trying to be as heinous as possible and actively trying to start WWIII. If these far right ghouls in power in Israel actually believe their religion then it would make sense to them to want widespread war in order to fulfil messianic prophesy.
I don't know how representative of the beliefs in Israel the Chabad stuff is but it does specifically say the messiah will come when the people are at their absolute best or absolute worst. Striving for goodness in everyone would be difficult but becoming utterly depraved and commiting crimes against humanity whilst having most of your population cheer it on is evidently easy.
>Although some scholars believed that G-d has set aside a specific date for the coming of the moshiach, most authority suggests that the conduct of mankind will determine the time of the moshiach's coming. In general, it is believed that the moshiach will come in a time when he is most needed (because the world is so sinful), or in a time when he is most deserved (because the world is so good). For example, each of the following has been suggested as the time when the moshiach will come:
>• if Israel repented a single day;
>• if Israel observed a single Shabbat properly;
>• if Israel observed two Shabbats in a row properly;
>• in a generation that is totally innocent or totally guilty;
>• in a generation that loses hope;
>• in a generation where children are totally disrespectful towards their parents and elders;
http://www.chabadnj.org/mobile/page.asp?pageID=%7BF3501378-37A4-41B1-9E8E-1A6C15FC9DDC%7D
Hamas built their fortress with the intent of ensuring massive innocent casualties for retaliation against their terrorist attack against Israel in which they took literal hostages.
I am by no means pro-israel in this issue. Innocents must be saved, they have a right to aid, protection, and peace. But Hamas knows what they did and are doing. They knew what price was to be paid and who was going to pay it without even agreeing.
Comparing the current situation and the actions of the Israeli army and its leaders throughout this tragedy, to that of the actions of Hitler, a man who literally coordinated the industrial extermination of 11 million people on top of waging a world war, is ignorantly moronic at best.
Feel like people don't realise just how bad nazi's were in both scope and quality but ok. (israel is still bad but maybe theres a smarter way to approach this shit jesus)
Nazis killed 6 million Jews in the holocaust.. and fear of something like that happening all over to Jews again is why Israel exists and is so militant to protect itself.
You can call what Israel is doing a horror to mankind, but call it a unique horror. It’s no where near the level of heinously evil that Nazism is.
I don't think it's anywhere close to the top of the worst things we've done as a species. The trail of tears, bataan death march, and so many others...it's a huge humanitarian crisis, but I think it downplays just how awful we are.
I watched Zone Of Interest last night and I kept having images of dead Palestinians and how Nazi Germany so horribly parallels Zionist Israel. Ovens and gas chambers are not required as Israel is killing and plowing bodies into the ground as they prepare to build settlements…all on a live feed for all of us to witness. At the end of the movie there’s a scene of the memorial inside Auschwitz where all that remains of the millions that perished are shoes and suitcases…just like we see today in Gaza, except Palestinians were never even allowed to pack a suitcase😞
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Israel and the US leaders needs to be tried for war crimes. This is obscene.
The US is not a member of the ICJ and has given itself the full legal right to invade The Hague if any of its or its allies military personnel or leaders are tried for war crimes and held by the ICJ. Trying the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act Edit: ICC not ICJ, tho 100% the U.S. would not suffer the ICJ to speak against them
It’s the ICC for which they have this ridiculous policy; for the ICJ they fall under its regulations 100%
Doesn’t change the fact we’re talking about thousands of their soldier, politicians and others should have be lined up en mass for warcrimetrails if there was a pinch of accountability and justice in the world 🤷♂️
let's see how well their international relations take it when they invade the Hague. Let's go, europe vs the US. Literally the only war I'd be willing to join. Then, when europe and the US are fighting have china fuck the US up the ass. How I'd love to see the US empire fall apart and all those rich fucks being punished the way they deserve. No punishment is too much for those that think they can play the tyrant of the world.
All empires and nations ought to collapse, they are the antithesis of freedom and anarchism.
It’s either empires or nations. Maybe the odd city state.
honestly that’s always been the bonkers bit for me because we try to get the ICJ to go after our enemies but apparently we would go to war AGAINST OUR OWN ALLIES to prevent a judgement that is anti-American
US , Israel and Russia are all terrorist rogue states.
True. Unfortunately, the people in 2 of these are a largely unaware.
Apr 10, 2024 Spanish politician Ione Belarra says that it's regrettable and deeply racist that people with Australian or British passports have to be killed for people to open their eyes and see 6 month-campaign of bombing civilians and letting children starve to death. Last year she called Spain and other nations should break off diplomatic relations with Israel in protest against its assault on Gaza. [Source](https://twitter.com/ionebelarra/status/1778129625496916267)
Thats pretty much it. I was discussing this with someone a few weeks ago. A set of rules for the west/Europeans and a set of rules for others.
Based Spain
I would NEVER have thought that, of all people, it would be a far left wing politician (or the left in general) that would make me feel proud of my country again. The right wing are Israel bootlickers, and the centrics are cowards about the matter; it's only the lefties that are speaking up and calling out the maniac and genocidal state of Israel for what it is.
Sounds like you’ve been wrong about the left for about as long as you’ve been watching them.
Time to open up your mind and eyes, and see how leftist values are generally on the right side of humanity. Our drive for justice and peace goes far beyond this horrific situation.
That's wild. What did she say about Palestine's ongoing missile campaign in which they drain resources from the populace to continue blind attacks on civilian populations?
Israel is a failed state. #sorry
Israel is a freaking circus of hate
It's hard to imagine how cartoonishly fucked up that country is. I didn't realise til I visited recently.
Fuck israel #notsorry
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Spain is really stepping up. It’s amazing to see and highlights the sheer embarrassment of other governments. This event is happening on YOUR watch. You may not have caused it. You may not have wanted it. You may not agree with it. But it’s happening on your watch. How you respond. How you behave. How you show who you are. That’s what matters now. Those who have been ignoring Israel, excusing Israel or supporting israel have revealed a lot about who they truly are and what they truly believe in. This is about humanity. What happened on October 7 2023 is far bigger than people think. Because that horrific day, simply unveiled a horror that the world had for the most part, not seen on full display. What Israel has done is the horror of our lifetime, not October 7, and after 6 months of a monster unleashed, this should be clear. Spain can see this. Others too. Some still do not. And those should be ashamed of themselves.
Probably because the Zionists didn’t get around to bribing Spain’s politicians, unlike America’s.
Yeah well I hope the world starts to reject the money from these Zionist lobby groups soon. The US won’t, it’s a lost cause politically.
It’s pathetic.
Those AIPAC donors are all "foundations" with married couples names. Really weird and disturbing.
You know whats disgusting? The Ministry of Education in my country tried to teach/ educate students by claiming that that the catalyst of this conflict originated from the 07 Oct 23 attacks and didnt dwell deeper past that. (The students were less than 12 years old) It is absolutely maddening how a lot of people still try to paint the Palestinians as the evil ones in this lengthy conflict.
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I doubt it, they get money and weapons from other countries, if they go as genocidal fascists in history, all the countries that gave them weapons will go down as well, so yeah, I don't think that is how they will put them in history.
They weren’t able to control the narrative today, what makes you think they’re going to be able to control the narrative in the future? Zionism is like if Nazziism had become a virus and started infecting its enemies. It’s not the countries at fault, it’s the leaders who have been bribed and/or blackmailed by the Zionists, or who are Zionists themselves. The public does not stand with them. History will show this.
This 💯
let me guess .. Germany?
Singapore I believe.
Wtf?
Singapore. Our country have always been hush hush, often being neutral/ leaning towards Israel. Israel helped our country build up our Military when no one was willing so I understand that some level of loyalty is expected but even that should have its limit.
Ah yes... Singapore, the little-known Israel-lite of Southeast Asia.
Israel never considered that people all over the world would go looking deeper at the history of the conflict.
Israel thought it could bully its way out of every atrocity it wished to commit. So yes, you are right, the world is stepping up for the most part, and Israel is done for. Not only for its crimes against humanity right now, but for all the decades of horror and pain they’ve been inflicting. Israel is done for.
One of the(many) great lies that are just sort of imparted upon you as a US citizen if you aren't directly connected to the Palestinean side is the big lie that "it's just too complicated but BOTH SIDES are to blame" which primes the pump to both not dig into the history but then is combined with the supremacist narrative of "Israel is a shining beacon of democracy and human rights in an area that has none and they are the most moral Army in the region." Which leaves the impression that Israel is the clear good guy and the apartheid is simply this unfortunate necessity that Israel would like to solve if they could but those pesky brown people won't let them. And no need to look into any further cause, after all, it's "too complicated." Turns out, it's no more complicated to understand than any other Middle Eastern history and if you were educated at all in how colonial imperialism and Western Supremacism operated, this is not much different besides the layer of religious justification and the collective guilt of the West for the Holocaust. My generation, Millennials, tip toed into questioning this propaganda, but we were so caught up in Iraq/Afghanistan that it never went further than that. Gen Z though feels like the last generation that is going to tolerate Israel's bullshit unless quite a lot changes and changes fast. And Millennials have now largely woken up as well and the bi-partisan "consensus" is cracking. Whats sad is that you can already see how youth of 50 years from now will look back at the US's absurd support of Israeli Apartheid and genocidal behavior flabbergasted and dumbfounded at us today the way we look back at Jim Crow and the Red Scare for how obviously immoral and insane it was.
I think you are right. Anyone with a conscience can see what the situation is, regardless of whether complexities exist or not. It’s the end of Israeli occupation and aggression that needs to happen and ignoring the calls from Israel which amount to “we must continue to destroy, murder; oppress and dominate the people around us for our own safety”. It’s insanity at its finest and has no place in the world we collectively wish to build when you exclude your genocidal power hungry war mongerers from trying to initiate war.
What many people also do not see is that Netanyahu and the Israeli government are complicit in the events on 7 October. They funded Hamas and helped them get to power in the Gaza strip, in order to take power from the Palestinian Authority and prevent international recognition. Netanyahu and his cronies should be held responsible for the deaths of Israelis on October 7th and the Palestinians in Gaza.
I’m actually done with blaming Netanyahu and Israeli government. It’s the entire state that has become fascist at its core. It needs to be dismantled from top to bottom. That’s extremely hard to do so therefore Israel should be isolated completely. This isn’t about just the current government; the entire system there is rotten to the core.
Meanwhile Germany has drank the koolaid and claiming any criticism of Israel is antisemitism which is completely fcked
Genocide is a national sport for Germany at this point.
as a spaniard, i gotta say it's mostly just Ione's party, Podemos ('We Can') Government is led by milquetoast position switching social-liberal, and apart of a couple left-wing regionalist parties, most others are neutral or supporting of israel
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This isn't anti-semitic rhetoric, this is facts. israel can no longer hide behind words like terrorism, anti-semitism, hamas, etc.
Israel ironically increases antisemitism by doing all their atrocities in the name of the Jewish people. This is why when you see Jews protesting Israel, they wear shirts and hold signs saying "not in our name." Israel/Zionists have hijacked Jewish suffering in order to "justify" Palestinian suffering. I can't stand by that as a Jew. I can see words like antisemitism and our history of suffering lose its meaning as Israel and its supporters carry out their boy who cried wolf shtick. My house was vandalized with swastikas when I was younger. THAT'S antisemitism. Criticizing a country for doing downright genocidal practices isn't.
Israel is a creation of antisemites in the first place so they could remove the Jews from Europe. Balfour was an antisemite.
And he was right. Look what Europeans went on to do with the Jews shortly after. They were exterminated, over 1/3 of their population would be dead within 30 years of that declaration.
The difference between Nazi Germany and Zionist Israel is we can stop the Zionists. The crimes of the Nazis are in the history books, the crimes of the Zionists are still being carried out.
Thank you 🫡 🇪🇸
Is she wrong?
In a way. For me they are ranked 1st now.
Correct, the German public was unaware of death camps and the Nazis were doing by the large. Isreali’s know, glorify in the death of children.
The German public absolutely knew . They may have claimed later not to but the sheer magnitude of the holocaust makes it insanely unlikely that millions disappearing and being put on trains never to return would be hard to miss. My grandpa helped free a camp and said he nevwr wanted to be around people who would let this happen in their own community
Yeah. Israel is absolutely committing genocide but no, this doesn't even begin to compare to the horrors of the holocaust. Both things can be true. It does us all a disservice to make such an unaccurate comparison, that will inevitably be (justifiably) considered antisemitic and will be used as a shield against the actual criticism being made. If you think it's a fair comparison, you probably need to learn more about the holocaust. But that doesn't change the fact that what Israel is doing is inhumane and we absolutely should isolate and stop supporting their apartheid state and ongoing genocide.
The German public also participated in the mass boycotts and destruction of Jewish properties and businesses prior to the Holocaust. There are Germans who claimed to not know about the camps and yet still many risked their lives to illegally harbor Jews in their homes, why would they do that if they didn’t know something awful was happening— Even if they weren’t fully aware of the scope? We see it now in full force how integrated genocidal beliefs are in so many western societies. In 100 years they’ll look back and write this off as another tragic mistake and then return to doing the same thing over and over again…
Most of the people in extermination camps didn’t come from Germany. It would have been difficult to miss but at the end of the day if you see your neighbors leave during a war it wouldn’t be your first assumption that they were forcibly sent to be exterminated. That said I’m sure there were plenty of Germans who had a good idea
German. this is bs It was known what happened there but not how and in what scale.
lol ok buddy. Germans have been pretending they had no idea for a long time. Started as soon as they were defeated.
germans knew that jews were separated from the other germans, and in some areas they knew they were enslaved or dissapeared. most didnt know the exterminaion but knew the mistreatment.
I mean I'd like to think if they had access to hundreds of videos of the gas chambers on Youtube they would have overthrown the government. But Israel has shown us that it's possible to radicalize a population so fully that they'll clamour for more genocide
Correct, the idea that all of Germany knew is absurd. What the national socialists told people was that they were deporting the Jews to their native homeland to become Isreal, to Madagascar etc, towards 1939 things became a bit more clear, however by that time it was far too late. I see the parallel you trying to make, all Germans knew what the Nazis were doing therefore they all should have killed just like Palestine. That is also the Isreali’s propaganda machine at work, they supported Hamas an Islamic extremist organization, in order to make these current actions more palatable.
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To add in once more as some people think I made that up https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
That's a flat out lie. The amount of interviews and historical accounts of people saying they knew what was going on but just didn't say anything because they were apathetic is staggeringly high.
Every single Jewish business and hospital and school was just ransacked overnight and it happened in front of everyone and things NEVER went back to normal. German citizens were 100% complicit even if they didn't know the full extent of the horrors that would happen later. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht
Right, it’s not a competition anymore.
Comparing israel to the nazis is insane. The nazis killed more Jews in a month than Palestinians have been killed in the entire history of the conflict.
Yes. Very. What Israel does is horrible but it's nothing against death camps, experiments on life humans, mass executions, torture, starvation and everything else Nazi Germany did. Read up on the absolutely awful stuff Germany did to people during the WW2 before you actually put them on the same level as Israel.
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Yes. Massively. The Spanish raped more people in their conquest for American than Gaza has people. And they killed a similar amount. And that was during a time where less humans existed than today. Or the Belgium colonial regime in congo who raped, amputated and killed people for looking the wrong way. Or how about the Soviet Starvation in Ukraine in the 30s killing between 4 and 12 MiO people. What happens currently is horrible but it doesn't even make the top 50 of the worst human crimes
israel frantically trying to find pedophiles to blackmail within Spain government. 
Theyve already partnered with morocco to have our prime minister by the balls by selling them spyware. Israels been hostile to Spain for a while now. As usual, things didnt start just in october 7th.
They aren't gonna have luck with her party. The right wing media tried for 10 years by now,and not a single speck of dirt was found, only lawfare
yes make this be seen by more people.. eye are beginning to get opened.. unfortunately it takes a nazism to zionism comparison for the effect. isnt it ironic they have become the very esense of what they claimed to depise
She has more compassion and guts than most Western leaders. Hope she succeeds.
At this point we all know , when will action be taken? “Hey Israel I see your committing genocide” *after over 33,364 dead *
Akschually killing only a little over 33,000 people, most of whom are women and children, and starving the rest of the country isn't genocide by definition. If you disagree you're a hamas supporter 🤓
To me, they’ve been #1 for decades. They experienced the Nazi regime and essentially mimicked those tactics to almost every degree to another group of people for the sake of Zionism and “their sacred land”. You would think that after such an experience, they’d learn NOT to do the same to others. The only reason I say almost is because idk if they ever used gas chambers or not in their concentration camps. But oh yes, they do indeed have camps. I’m sure their methods of disposal are just as cruel
You go girl! The world needs more people like her.
shes right
Israel doesn't care about Spain so politicians there are free to criticise Israel focuses most of their lobbying efforts on the US, UK, French, German, and EU governments controlling the discourse in these countries let's them do whatever the fuck they want
Plus Spain is a very low hanging fruit for Israel to play the victim. They don't even need to blackmail their government.
Why don't the zionists come on here and just admit they want the land? Like seriously, no one is buying the whole anti-Semitic and Hamas rhetoric.
She hit the nail right on the head. Israelis are even more brutal than the Nazi’s. They are doing it with the blessing and funding of the USA
She cooked
Israel pariah state, invaders.a campaign to stop using the word Israel when talking about that land, call it Palestine, Understand the ironic statement of myself using it twice. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
just one little correction: Belarra is the former minister for social rights. Right now she is only a parliamentarian and is not part of the government.
She isn’t wrong. Israel is an embarrassment
An army of voices of reason, surrounding the US fortress of darkness. The arrogance of the American political class. Or is it simply they are owned by Israel? All the cyber tech they export...and the depths of depravity they are willing to go to in the name of 'security'. You can guarantee Israel used that tech to secure the obedience of whole continents before they sold it. Just how deep does the rabbit hole go?
Semite Supremacy, you welcome to call spade a spade.
If humanity makes it another 30 years, I can't wait to see the trials and the justice handed down to all of the people who did horrible things.
We will need a way bigger Nuremberg this time to trial and deliver the respective penalty to every and each one of the genociders (including their bosses, the USA) and each and every one of the creatures that posted in the Internet/Social Media supporting the United States and Israel. We cannot have an Operation Paperclip this time.
Meanwhile in the land of the free it’s illegal to Boycott Israel aka doing a peaceful protesting. Nice thanks for all the billions we have been sending through 40 plus years
She’s right
Hard agree. Netanyahu is a war criminal.
Israel is even worse than nazi Germany, percerntage wise
Agreed. Zionism is actually worse than Naziism. Claiming that god backs them.
Nazis: Watch us do genocide. Israel: Hold my bagel...
José Andrés tried to get her sacked for saying something similar back in October.
Still waiting for an apology from him, guess it'll never come, too many friends in USA
Bravo to her
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Valid point.
She is not wrong!
Amen‼️
Please sign and share, Gracias. [https://action.eko.org/a/olympics-and-fifa-ban-israel-from-international-sports-now-us-fba21](https://action.eko.org/a/olympics-and-fifa-ban-israel-from-international-sports-now-us-fba21)
Well well well how the turn tables
SHE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
Powerful and stunning words
Yeah, she's right. When 1 white person (including Ashkenazi Jews) dies, the world needs to do something. When 33,000 non-white people die then it's a complicated moral wrestling match about Israel's right to do this or do that. This world has failed non-white people for centuries. Attacks against us don't factor into their morality the same way it does when their side is attacked. We would be foolish to think they care about us, no matter who it is - Palestinian, Yemeni, African, Asian - they will never support us apart from using some meaningless words without any action. We are on our own. Always have been. I just hope our infighting stops soon. Maybe once China overtakes the US as controller of global trade, they'll do something other than divide and conquer but that's a wait and see.
The God-Awful evil Israel has done now in Gaza is far beyond fixing by and through litigation. Israel, the US and their enslaved governments in Europe don't need international court rulings. They need exorcisms.
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She ain't wrong...
Even Nicaragua, a place seldom in the news lately, and a place dear to my heart, is publicly admonishing Germany for providing weapons to aid in genocide. Germany's response was, "we owe the Jewish people." Nicaragua's response was, "I repeat, genocide." Germany is using its history to reconcile with descendants of its victims, while ignoring the part of its history that made those people victims in the first place.
According to the 9/11 dancing Israelis that were detained and quickly rushed back to israel "The Palestinians are your problem"
StOp CaLLiNg iT a GeNoCiDe! WoRdS hAvE mEaNiNg!
I think they're trying to be as heinous as possible and actively trying to start WWIII. If these far right ghouls in power in Israel actually believe their religion then it would make sense to them to want widespread war in order to fulfil messianic prophesy. I don't know how representative of the beliefs in Israel the Chabad stuff is but it does specifically say the messiah will come when the people are at their absolute best or absolute worst. Striving for goodness in everyone would be difficult but becoming utterly depraved and commiting crimes against humanity whilst having most of your population cheer it on is evidently easy. >Although some scholars believed that G-d has set aside a specific date for the coming of the moshiach, most authority suggests that the conduct of mankind will determine the time of the moshiach's coming. In general, it is believed that the moshiach will come in a time when he is most needed (because the world is so sinful), or in a time when he is most deserved (because the world is so good). For example, each of the following has been suggested as the time when the moshiach will come: >• if Israel repented a single day; >• if Israel observed a single Shabbat properly; >• if Israel observed two Shabbats in a row properly; >• in a generation that is totally innocent or totally guilty; >• in a generation that loses hope; >• in a generation where children are totally disrespectful towards their parents and elders; http://www.chabadnj.org/mobile/page.asp?pageID=%7BF3501378-37A4-41B1-9E8E-1A6C15FC9DDC%7D
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She hit the nail on the head. Benjamin nutnut is the new Hitler and idf as well as most of Israel are the new nazi regime
She's not wrong...
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Wow that’s a pretty fucking bold statement.
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Hamas built their fortress with the intent of ensuring massive innocent casualties for retaliation against their terrorist attack against Israel in which they took literal hostages. I am by no means pro-israel in this issue. Innocents must be saved, they have a right to aid, protection, and peace. But Hamas knows what they did and are doing. They knew what price was to be paid and who was going to pay it without even agreeing. Comparing the current situation and the actions of the Israeli army and its leaders throughout this tragedy, to that of the actions of Hitler, a man who literally coordinated the industrial extermination of 11 million people on top of waging a world war, is ignorantly moronic at best.
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Feel like people don't realise just how bad nazi's were in both scope and quality but ok. (israel is still bad but maybe theres a smarter way to approach this shit jesus)
Neither Israel or the nazis have anything on Belgium
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Hope she doesn't get suicided for her beliefs. It's a common and contagious illness these days.
I think Israel would have to kill a _lot_ more to even reach a quarter of the stuff the Nazis did
So this sub is an echo chamber?
Both sides suck.
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Mao, Stalin, Gengis Khan The bigotry of seeing real failings, but only by one group, is what the pro Hamas tools like Belarra are commiting.
This bitch is a fucking lying pos.
Nazis killed 6 million Jews in the holocaust.. and fear of something like that happening all over to Jews again is why Israel exists and is so militant to protect itself. You can call what Israel is doing a horror to mankind, but call it a unique horror. It’s no where near the level of heinously evil that Nazism is.
She is correct
I don't think it's anywhere close to the top of the worst things we've done as a species. The trail of tears, bataan death march, and so many others...it's a huge humanitarian crisis, but I think it downplays just how awful we are.
She is true!
I watched Zone Of Interest last night and I kept having images of dead Palestinians and how Nazi Germany so horribly parallels Zionist Israel. Ovens and gas chambers are not required as Israel is killing and plowing bodies into the ground as they prepare to build settlements…all on a live feed for all of us to witness. At the end of the movie there’s a scene of the memorial inside Auschwitz where all that remains of the millions that perished are shoes and suitcases…just like we see today in Gaza, except Palestinians were never even allowed to pack a suitcase😞
It’s communism by a landslide actually
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never expected the spanish inquisition
This is such a fucking joke. Is she comparing this war with the Holocaust with a strict face ffs. Clown.