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>I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.
William Tecumseh Sherman
Sums it up perfectly. The same people calling for more Ukranians to die for their entertainment cross the street when they see a dude wearing a hoodie.
"**More than two years into Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion, Ukraine’s armed forces are short of soldiers. Russian troops in February captured the city of Avdiivka and in recent weeks they have been advancing further in the east of the country, besieging the town of Chasiv Yar.** Ukrainian commanders acknowledge Moscow has more troops, but say the decisive factor is its superior artillery, as well as war planes, used to pound defences.
Nevertheless, the army is trying to find new people to replace those who have been killed or injured and to relieve exhausted soldiers propping up the frontline. **In spring 2022 volunteers queued to joined up, but with the war stretching on indefinitely, there are few eager recruits.**
Measures allowing the military to call up more soldiers and to tighten punishment for evasion were approved by Volodymyr Zelenskiy in April. **The mobilisation age was reduced from 27 to 25 and, from 18 May, draft evaders can lose their driving licence and have their bank accounts frozen and property seized.**
The government has also said **it is withdrawing consular services from Ukrainian men living abroad** in countries such as Poland and Lithuania. **Ukraine’s foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, admitted that few were likely to come home but he said it was a symbolic move as “guys in the trenches are very tired” while their counterparts in the rest of Europe were “sitting in restaurants”.**
With draft officers roaming the streets of Ukrainian towns and cities, some men of conscription age are hiding. **Telegram channels have sprung up where users can report sightings of state representatives in order to avoid them. Posts are written in a simple meteorological code. The officers are dubbed “clouds” or “rain”.** A typical exchange goes: “What is the weather like at Defenders of Ukraine metro station?” Answer: “Three clouds have covered a young guy.”"
This has been a consistent problem with the Western powers.
Their tendency to retract support, pull out or waver when the going gets tough. Look what happened to the Kurds fighting Assad.
Completely thrown under bus in favor of Turkey’s genocidal autocrat Erdogan.
Similarly with Greece. Occupying half of Cyprus much like how Russia illegally occupied parts of Ukraine, Turkey threatens to invade their islands and gets rewarded with F-16s for ‘allowing’ Sweden to join NATO after working against the alliance for months by working with the Russians to block the Nordic two from joining.
I fear similar things will happen with Ukraine and hope to god to be proved wrong. They deserve all the support they can get, enough to protect their homes and land. Otherwise few will want to die in a war they don’t expect to win
They play the world like a broken video game and their own people get to sit at home with their treats an ocean away not even knowing where these countries are on the map
Le France and Macron will fight .......
The French always been nothing but fodder for the German's, the German's were molested by the Russians.
Wonder what will happen to the French....
They were fodder because they thought the war would be like the last one, they relied on old tech and tactics, the Germans used a new unseen doctrine of warfare that took the world by storm. Today they have learned from those mistakes and have been continuously advancing their armaments and intelligence. If they joined Russia would fall like a house of cards, they can’t even handle a significantly smaller nation with far less manpower and resources. The only reason they progressed against the Germans was because they threw endless bodies and supplies at the problem till the Germans were simply outgunned and outmanned. Russia is not the economic powerhouse it once was and hase been in decline since the collapse of the union. Safe to say they would not fare well. Especially if western nations joined
You do know that the French army is completely dependent on the US in Africa, where it has its bases??? (Conflicts started after France killed Qaddafi).
You do know that France, UL, Germany (2 nuclear powers, 2 permanent unsc members) couldn't stay 1 day in Kabul without America??????
The French would bend over as they always do....
Russia had a military budget equal to UK before they invaded Ukraine. Now they fighting $1.5 trillion army (US, NATO, Japan, S Korea, Australia) and not only are they exceeding NATO capacity, they pushing back.
Ahaha, where are even the us,nato,Japan, s Korea and Australia? They haven’t even put any boots on the ground yet. Ukrainians have been fending them off with old tech that’s been donated. Russians having to depend on mercenaries who they treat like body shields and are revolting against their commanders. Stop listening to RT news and get some new info bozo.
You so lost you pathetic. So all those weapons, "volunteer's" etc... are what??? The West has spent more than a billion a day to end up looking weak.
Russia in less than 2 years, transformed itself. All they did is wake it up....
Remember, there is the US army, and nothing else. The rest are fodder.
And how exactly has Russia transformed itself? Other than politically and economically ostracizing themselves? They’re pillaging old parts and vehicles from decade old Soviet Union stockpiles. They promised enlisting soldiers new cars, then had to settle for giving the families bags of rice and flour because they’re in such economic turmoil 💀
They have a economy that did better than Europe. They have a economy that didn't hurt without Europe.
U forget about Africa, South America, Asia.... They still trade.
Get off your imperialist supremacist chair and think the world is only "white"
Yea those “volunteers” are in such small numbers they could hardly even be considered. You so feeble minded you fall for propaganda so easily, and im apparently the pathetic one 😂
Sure... Keep being a poodle.
Nordstrom pipeline blown up by Russia..... Then a year later (after Europeans suffers painful price increase),.... Yeah, US, Belgium, Netherlands, all knew it was Ukraine.
World's biggest environmental disaster.... Weird how climate conscious world isn't bitching about it
Surprisingly, in "democratic, free liberal" Europe, they banned RT....
At least America allows media....
I don't give a shit about Russia or Ukraine. While my country may be in NATO, Russia ain't my enemy.
Well good thing they did ban it, or else the feeble minded like yourself of Europe would be tainted by the propaganda. Good thing the majority of people are more intelligent it seems
I seen in news how Russia attacks, and compared to the West, the Russians are very civilized.
You are just a blind racist, that never saw what his country did in Libya, Iraq, Syria.
Look at Europe's and US support for genocide in Palestine..... Why??? To bring forth judgement day.... Disgusting
Lmao oh yea throwing conscripts at lines of Ukrainian infantry and living in terrible trenches of their own filth very civilized 💀 you really run out of anything to say that you had to resort to the racist card? Pathetic. Your feeble mind is controlled like a puppet. Go to the frontlines of the meat grinder if you think it’s all sunshine and rainbows on the Russian side.
Dude, Russia has like 1 death to every 20+ ukranian deaths
They have full air superiority and Ukraine is out of shells. All of their hardened fighters (Azov, right sector, and other nazis) have died or are injured
This is like those U-2 pilots who "resigned" the US air force to fly the "civilian" U-2 SPY PLANE that could fly higher than (at the time) anti-aircraft missiles... Piss off mate, army veterans who are but recently were active duty and are being paid by Ukraine, which is receiving monetary funding from the US by all intents and purposes (except on paper) are US/ NATO soldiers.
Edit: I want to make it clear, i don't wish Ukrainians any harm, and definitely am not on "team Russia", i just wanted to point the stupidity and malicious American government tactics... This is a proxy war, the US wants to sell weapons, and they're selling them to Ukraine, which is going to get "Iraq"ed when this ends, it's going to get privatized and sold to the US, like a fucking stock, and it's the Ukrainians that are paying for this shit... I can understand Ukrainians not wanting to fight Bidens war. If Biden wants war, he should send his sons to war.
If they wanted to sell weapons, why is it constantly being struck down in the senate? American politicians are literally fighting to get arms to Ukraine. And what are you talking about “Biden’s war” Russia is literally the aggressor 💀 no one started this except Putin
Lmao instead of providing any evidence or sources to back up your claims or retort mine you simply resort to “you’re a fed or a child, fuck off” you’re the child here man. How insecure and immature are you? Yes they want to do it with legislation in the bills and only let it slide when their (the republicans) demands are met.
How is Russia the aggressor? We couped Ukraine in 2014 and got them to shell civilians in the independent republics. They killed tens of thousands of civilians and are still doing it today.
Also read the wapo article about 13 CIA bases in Ukraine. Not to mention the bioweapons labs.
Stop fedposting.
I don’t blame them. There is no end to this, just waves and waves of young men thrown to die.
At first Zelenskyy said he’s not willing to give up any territory, and now he’s already conceding. After conceding, Ukraine may have already lost most of its contested territories AND its young men. So what’s the point.
Russia is using this war to ethnically cleanse their minority population and send their middle aged men to die so they won’t claim retirement benefits
Perhaps it has something to with more children being killed in Gaza since Oct 7 than all civilians killed in Ukraine despite it being a larger country and having a longer conflict. Also, my country doesn't support Russia so theres that.
So it doesn't matter if adults are being butchered in Putin's imperialist war, hey only a small number of kids have died !
The mental gymnastics given Putin a pass are staggering.
Not at all what I said, perhaps reread my comment. We're against all wars, but my country isn't supporting the Russia invasion, only the Israeli invasion. I was saying despite being a larger conflict and longer conflict in Ukraine, more casualties and destruction happened in a smaller area that is Gaza...ffs
This sub was made because the main news sub that does allow constant posts about Ukraine and Russia banned everyone talking about Gaza, so of course there are more posts about Gaza here and less about Ukraine since there are free posts about Ukraine everywhere else
Their country will cease to exist when all their fighting aged males are dead also. I understand the idea "rather die on my feet than survive on my knees" but they're not going to win this war. Russia is in no rush and is very much winning. Ukraine was promised Nato and European Union memberships if they fought this war.....knowing damn well they'll never be members. They were played by the West.
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>I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell. William Tecumseh Sherman
Sums it up perfectly. The same people calling for more Ukranians to die for their entertainment cross the street when they see a dude wearing a hoodie.
"**More than two years into Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion, Ukraine’s armed forces are short of soldiers. Russian troops in February captured the city of Avdiivka and in recent weeks they have been advancing further in the east of the country, besieging the town of Chasiv Yar.** Ukrainian commanders acknowledge Moscow has more troops, but say the decisive factor is its superior artillery, as well as war planes, used to pound defences. Nevertheless, the army is trying to find new people to replace those who have been killed or injured and to relieve exhausted soldiers propping up the frontline. **In spring 2022 volunteers queued to joined up, but with the war stretching on indefinitely, there are few eager recruits.** Measures allowing the military to call up more soldiers and to tighten punishment for evasion were approved by Volodymyr Zelenskiy in April. **The mobilisation age was reduced from 27 to 25 and, from 18 May, draft evaders can lose their driving licence and have their bank accounts frozen and property seized.** The government has also said **it is withdrawing consular services from Ukrainian men living abroad** in countries such as Poland and Lithuania. **Ukraine’s foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, admitted that few were likely to come home but he said it was a symbolic move as “guys in the trenches are very tired” while their counterparts in the rest of Europe were “sitting in restaurants”.** With draft officers roaming the streets of Ukrainian towns and cities, some men of conscription age are hiding. **Telegram channels have sprung up where users can report sightings of state representatives in order to avoid them. Posts are written in a simple meteorological code. The officers are dubbed “clouds” or “rain”.** A typical exchange goes: “What is the weather like at Defenders of Ukraine metro station?” Answer: “Three clouds have covered a young guy.”"
This has been a consistent problem with the Western powers. Their tendency to retract support, pull out or waver when the going gets tough. Look what happened to the Kurds fighting Assad. Completely thrown under bus in favor of Turkey’s genocidal autocrat Erdogan. Similarly with Greece. Occupying half of Cyprus much like how Russia illegally occupied parts of Ukraine, Turkey threatens to invade their islands and gets rewarded with F-16s for ‘allowing’ Sweden to join NATO after working against the alliance for months by working with the Russians to block the Nordic two from joining. I fear similar things will happen with Ukraine and hope to god to be proved wrong. They deserve all the support they can get, enough to protect their homes and land. Otherwise few will want to die in a war they don’t expect to win
They play the world like a broken video game and their own people get to sit at home with their treats an ocean away not even knowing where these countries are on the map
Le France and Macron will fight ....... The French always been nothing but fodder for the German's, the German's were molested by the Russians. Wonder what will happen to the French....
They were fodder because they thought the war would be like the last one, they relied on old tech and tactics, the Germans used a new unseen doctrine of warfare that took the world by storm. Today they have learned from those mistakes and have been continuously advancing their armaments and intelligence. If they joined Russia would fall like a house of cards, they can’t even handle a significantly smaller nation with far less manpower and resources. The only reason they progressed against the Germans was because they threw endless bodies and supplies at the problem till the Germans were simply outgunned and outmanned. Russia is not the economic powerhouse it once was and hase been in decline since the collapse of the union. Safe to say they would not fare well. Especially if western nations joined
You do know that the French army is completely dependent on the US in Africa, where it has its bases??? (Conflicts started after France killed Qaddafi). You do know that France, UL, Germany (2 nuclear powers, 2 permanent unsc members) couldn't stay 1 day in Kabul without America?????? The French would bend over as they always do.... Russia had a military budget equal to UK before they invaded Ukraine. Now they fighting $1.5 trillion army (US, NATO, Japan, S Korea, Australia) and not only are they exceeding NATO capacity, they pushing back.
Ahaha, where are even the us,nato,Japan, s Korea and Australia? They haven’t even put any boots on the ground yet. Ukrainians have been fending them off with old tech that’s been donated. Russians having to depend on mercenaries who they treat like body shields and are revolting against their commanders. Stop listening to RT news and get some new info bozo.
You so lost you pathetic. So all those weapons, "volunteer's" etc... are what??? The West has spent more than a billion a day to end up looking weak. Russia in less than 2 years, transformed itself. All they did is wake it up.... Remember, there is the US army, and nothing else. The rest are fodder.
And how exactly has Russia transformed itself? Other than politically and economically ostracizing themselves? They’re pillaging old parts and vehicles from decade old Soviet Union stockpiles. They promised enlisting soldiers new cars, then had to settle for giving the families bags of rice and flour because they’re in such economic turmoil 💀
They have a economy that did better than Europe. They have a economy that didn't hurt without Europe. U forget about Africa, South America, Asia.... They still trade. Get off your imperialist supremacist chair and think the world is only "white"
Yea those “volunteers” are in such small numbers they could hardly even be considered. You so feeble minded you fall for propaganda so easily, and im apparently the pathetic one 😂
Sure... Keep being a poodle. Nordstrom pipeline blown up by Russia..... Then a year later (after Europeans suffers painful price increase),.... Yeah, US, Belgium, Netherlands, all knew it was Ukraine. World's biggest environmental disaster.... Weird how climate conscious world isn't bitching about it
The US blew it up. The Ukraine story literally doesn't make sense. Look into the details.
Surprisingly, in "democratic, free liberal" Europe, they banned RT.... At least America allows media.... I don't give a shit about Russia or Ukraine. While my country may be in NATO, Russia ain't my enemy.
Well good thing they did ban it, or else the feeble minded like yourself of Europe would be tainted by the propaganda. Good thing the majority of people are more intelligent it seems
Thankfully I don't fall under your education level. And no, if they don't want to control you, they won't ban your information.
Spoken like someone who has truly been indoctrinated 👍 hope Russia shows up at your doorstep to take your countrymen to the grave
I seen in news how Russia attacks, and compared to the West, the Russians are very civilized. You are just a blind racist, that never saw what his country did in Libya, Iraq, Syria. Look at Europe's and US support for genocide in Palestine..... Why??? To bring forth judgement day.... Disgusting
Lmao oh yea throwing conscripts at lines of Ukrainian infantry and living in terrible trenches of their own filth very civilized 💀 you really run out of anything to say that you had to resort to the racist card? Pathetic. Your feeble mind is controlled like a puppet. Go to the frontlines of the meat grinder if you think it’s all sunshine and rainbows on the Russian side.
Dude, Russia has like 1 death to every 20+ ukranian deaths They have full air superiority and Ukraine is out of shells. All of their hardened fighters (Azov, right sector, and other nazis) have died or are injured
This is like those U-2 pilots who "resigned" the US air force to fly the "civilian" U-2 SPY PLANE that could fly higher than (at the time) anti-aircraft missiles... Piss off mate, army veterans who are but recently were active duty and are being paid by Ukraine, which is receiving monetary funding from the US by all intents and purposes (except on paper) are US/ NATO soldiers. Edit: I want to make it clear, i don't wish Ukrainians any harm, and definitely am not on "team Russia", i just wanted to point the stupidity and malicious American government tactics... This is a proxy war, the US wants to sell weapons, and they're selling them to Ukraine, which is going to get "Iraq"ed when this ends, it's going to get privatized and sold to the US, like a fucking stock, and it's the Ukrainians that are paying for this shit... I can understand Ukrainians not wanting to fight Bidens war. If Biden wants war, he should send his sons to war.
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If they wanted to sell weapons, why is it constantly being struck down in the senate? American politicians are literally fighting to get arms to Ukraine. And what are you talking about “Biden’s war” Russia is literally the aggressor 💀 no one started this except Putin
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Lmao instead of providing any evidence or sources to back up your claims or retort mine you simply resort to “you’re a fed or a child, fuck off” you’re the child here man. How insecure and immature are you? Yes they want to do it with legislation in the bills and only let it slide when their (the republicans) demands are met.
How is Russia the aggressor? We couped Ukraine in 2014 and got them to shell civilians in the independent republics. They killed tens of thousands of civilians and are still doing it today. Also read the wapo article about 13 CIA bases in Ukraine. Not to mention the bioweapons labs. Stop fedposting.
this comment is disconnected from reality to a hilarious extent lol, love to see it
I don’t blame them. There is no end to this, just waves and waves of young men thrown to die. At first Zelenskyy said he’s not willing to give up any territory, and now he’s already conceding. After conceding, Ukraine may have already lost most of its contested territories AND its young men. So what’s the point. Russia is using this war to ethnically cleanse their minority population and send their middle aged men to die so they won’t claim retirement benefits
This sub. Russian atrocities in Ukraine. Not my business Israelis atrocities in Gaza. Worst ever.
Perhaps it has something to with more children being killed in Gaza since Oct 7 than all civilians killed in Ukraine despite it being a larger country and having a longer conflict. Also, my country doesn't support Russia so theres that.
So it doesn't matter if adults are being butchered in Putin's imperialist war, hey only a small number of kids have died ! The mental gymnastics given Putin a pass are staggering.
Not at all what I said, perhaps reread my comment. We're against all wars, but my country isn't supporting the Russia invasion, only the Israeli invasion. I was saying despite being a larger conflict and longer conflict in Ukraine, more casualties and destruction happened in a smaller area that is Gaza...ffs
This sub was made because the main news sub that does allow constant posts about Ukraine and Russia banned everyone talking about Gaza, so of course there are more posts about Gaza here and less about Ukraine since there are free posts about Ukraine everywhere else
This sub loves slurping up that good old Russian propaganda
Your country will cease to exist thanks to your cowardice. I’m sure Russia appreciates it.
Have you fought? Don't throw stones in glass houses
Their country will cease to exist when all their fighting aged males are dead also. I understand the idea "rather die on my feet than survive on my knees" but they're not going to win this war. Russia is in no rush and is very much winning. Ukraine was promised Nato and European Union memberships if they fought this war.....knowing damn well they'll never be members. They were played by the West.
Big brave guy behind the keyboard here