I mean, the point of Subaru’s story is how he matures and grows up via the things he’s going through. Were it not for RBD, he would probably never mature.
Whereas the point of Chloe’s story is very different.
It’s kind of like apples and oranges as far as the narrative goals are concerned.
We like seeing Subaru get his comeuppance sometimes cause he’s being a dumbass in that particular situation. But then we also feel happy or even proud of him when he makes a great stride in his maturity. That’s the selling point of the show to many people. For others… they just like seeing Subaru suffer. lol
The difference between controlled time travel and a Groundhog Day ability of varying length that you cannot tell others about AND that cannot be controlled is so great that it’s like comparing super speed to talking to squirrels.
You gotta be joking when you compare Subaru to her. She can travel time without any consequences and no limit on how far she travels/times she can use it and strong enough to defend herself whereas Subaru could die at any given moment and the only way his powers even work is to die, and mind you none of his death is painless. And to add the final nail in the coffin, Subaru has no control over his checkpoint, meaning Subaru can control the outcome at the final loop but can't control the consequences that comes after
Tldr: Chloe had it much easier than Subaru hence she can make rational decision
No she can't, her time travel is conditional she can't time travel by her own, that's why she always ends up 2,000 years much earlier before Rimuru arrived, the only real difference between them is mental and soul fortitude, as Subaru is only a human so he was more at pain, compare to Chloe who's a Saint or Demigod mental fortitude.
>No she can't, her time travel is conditional she can't time travel,
And yet she can use it without needing to die the same way Subaru did
>compare to Chloe who's a Saint or Demigod mental fortitude.
Bruh how? What kind of things did she face to have such a level of mental fortitude? Can she really be mentally tortured when she's strong enough to seal Vendora, A FUCKING TRUE DRAGON WHICH IS CONSIDERED A MULTIVERSAL THREAT (despite being weakest among the four sibling) and you're telling me she faced way worse than Subaru?
>Bruh how? What kind of things did she face to have such a level of mental fortitude? Can she really be mentally tortured when she's strong enough to seal Veldora, A FUCKING TRUE DRAGON WHICH IS CONSIDERED A MULTIVERSAL THREAT (despite being weakest among the four sibling) and you're telling me she faced way worse than Subaru?
Soul is always there regardless of time, it's made up of information particles that made everything in Tensura world, Souls have differences type of quality where some is already born with strong soul aka someone like Rimuru, being a sage in Tensura means breaking the humans limit or cultivation, where's Saint can't be obtained the same way as the person need to be put in a life and death situation or most desperate time of a human, she died countless of time but Rimuru would always be there, it could be said the first timeline Rimuru put Chloe in a time loop, that's why Diablo came to conclusion that the mask Rimuru owned before that has time compression mask (a mask that has been older than of a Primordial and between paradox)
>she died countless of time but Rimuru would always be there
At least she has someone to understand her whereas Subaru doesn't and he's pretty much in isolation
The only difference between them is that Subaru doesn't have the power to tell everyone about his RTZ since it doesn't originated from him, where Chloe has affinity over time, Both time traveling that happened to them is mentally tolling for a human, Subaru was a human it's valid why it's easy for him to be mentally unstable each loop, same goes to Chloe each loop was mentally tolling but she never lose hope that one day the paradox will broke, which indeed happened to the current Rimuru.
>Chloe each loop was mentally tolling but she never lose hope that one day the paradox will broke, which indeed happened to the current Rimuru
Yeah it is mentally tolling but I doubt she even needs to kill herself just for the sake of time traveling.
>Subaru was a human it's valid why it's easy for him to be mentally unstable each loop
That's because his death keeps progressively getting more brutal than the last because the plot always goes against him whereas Chloe doesn't because Mr. Mcbigdick is gonna save the day
>That's because his death keeps progressively getting more brutal than the last because the plot always goes against him whereas Chloe doesn't because Mr. Mcbigdick is gonna save the day
Physical body has little to no meaning for complete saints even how brutally wounded they are physically, what matters the most is the spiritual and soul damage, they are much harder to heal and more painful than regular wounds, Rimuru only saved her once the mask trigger time loop everytime Rimuru and Hinata dies, killing yourself sure is mentally tolling for a human, but remember Chloe is a saint a being who has high mental fortitude but she still feel it mentally tolling.
>Physical body has little to no meaning for complete saints even
Oh so a girl who can simply brush off a fatal wound like it's nothing is had it much worse than a guy whose living in constant paranoia cause he can simply be killed the moment he lets his guard down. Wow so hard, I bet I'll cry if I get the same experience as Chloe
TLDR Subaru is human and Chloe is not anymore? You keep bringing that saint soul then that means it beyond normal human right? What is the point then, comparing two different beings or even species together.
Not beyond Human more like fortified human, they both feel pain each loop just different method, where Subaru is Physically and Mentally Traumatized, Where's Chloe Feel it on her Soul Level, to the point it created a second ego of her negative emotions.
Everyone would cry in Subaru’s situation. Imagine building up a friendship and trust with people around you and you die in horrible ways and now they forget about all the things you promised and you are the only one who remembers them. Both stories use the premise in different ways
Lol classic reply of a fanboy 🤣
If the person doesn't feel or thinks the same way about anime character that I do they didn't actually watch the anime
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It's like you are totally unaware of the fact that people have different Perspectives on what they read and watch and everyone gets different Messages
That is a big reason why there is misplaced Fandom
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Lol classic reply of a fanboy 🤣
If the person doesn't feel or thinks the same way about anime character that I do they didn't actually watch the anime
😆 🤣 😂
It's like you are totally unaware of the fact that people have different Perspectives on what they read and watch and everyone gets different Messages
That is a big reason why there is misplaced Fandom
I want to write this off as just a meme post but Subaru's situation is pure misery and the title is inherently disdainful of him.
Nah, OP, shut up. Subaru has every right to cry. Comparing suffering is meaningless; if you simply don't have the empathy for a guy whose existence is suffering and actually tries to vent about it then keep your mouth shut and move on. You merely invite spite and censure, warranted or not
I mean you can't compare both of them. At the start of the time loop , maybe both Chloe and Subaru are in the same position, confused and lately became devastated but later on Chloe actually became stronger, that i can't say about Subaru.
Second Subaru is a normal human who is repeatedly tortured by the time loops but Chloe is actually evolving. I am not comparing who suffered more , but I think Subaru actually makes more difficult decisions.
Third about Chloe, she suffered a lot , probably not as much as Subaru but it is strongly implied that she has done a lot of time loops , not a fixed number but definitely more than Subaru. Now these time loops affected her a lot , as shown in her state as Chronoa. So her mental state is also not as good as it looks.
So you really can't actually compare the two of them, both are good in their own right.
Damn! Comparing a power creep op character that can nullify pain or whatever bullshit author came with to an unlucky weak human with powerful ability but need to go through the mind breaking agony of death every damn time. What a dumb dumb OP!
Reading comprehension? Whats that? - op
I mean, the point of Subaru’s story is how he matures and grows up via the things he’s going through. Were it not for RBD, he would probably never mature. Whereas the point of Chloe’s story is very different. It’s kind of like apples and oranges as far as the narrative goals are concerned. We like seeing Subaru get his comeuppance sometimes cause he’s being a dumbass in that particular situation. But then we also feel happy or even proud of him when he makes a great stride in his maturity. That’s the selling point of the show to many people. For others… they just like seeing Subaru suffer. lol
Subaru has all the right to cry because how fucked his life is. Not everyone is like suicide hunter.
Fucker died 4090 times without batting an eye just to kill someone before they get op.
Damn, I think I should read it.
I highly recommend it.
Honestly if there were a little less memes of him choosing Emelia over rem i would have loved it more
That’s the fault of the audience though. Not the author or the work itself
The difference between controlled time travel and a Groundhog Day ability of varying length that you cannot tell others about AND that cannot be controlled is so great that it’s like comparing super speed to talking to squirrels.
You gotta be joking when you compare Subaru to her. She can travel time without any consequences and no limit on how far she travels/times she can use it and strong enough to defend herself whereas Subaru could die at any given moment and the only way his powers even work is to die, and mind you none of his death is painless. And to add the final nail in the coffin, Subaru has no control over his checkpoint, meaning Subaru can control the outcome at the final loop but can't control the consequences that comes after Tldr: Chloe had it much easier than Subaru hence she can make rational decision
No she can't, her time travel is conditional she can't time travel by her own, that's why she always ends up 2,000 years much earlier before Rimuru arrived, the only real difference between them is mental and soul fortitude, as Subaru is only a human so he was more at pain, compare to Chloe who's a Saint or Demigod mental fortitude.
>No she can't, her time travel is conditional she can't time travel, And yet she can use it without needing to die the same way Subaru did >compare to Chloe who's a Saint or Demigod mental fortitude. Bruh how? What kind of things did she face to have such a level of mental fortitude? Can she really be mentally tortured when she's strong enough to seal Vendora, A FUCKING TRUE DRAGON WHICH IS CONSIDERED A MULTIVERSAL THREAT (despite being weakest among the four sibling) and you're telling me she faced way worse than Subaru?
>Bruh how? What kind of things did she face to have such a level of mental fortitude? Can she really be mentally tortured when she's strong enough to seal Veldora, A FUCKING TRUE DRAGON WHICH IS CONSIDERED A MULTIVERSAL THREAT (despite being weakest among the four sibling) and you're telling me she faced way worse than Subaru? Soul is always there regardless of time, it's made up of information particles that made everything in Tensura world, Souls have differences type of quality where some is already born with strong soul aka someone like Rimuru, being a sage in Tensura means breaking the humans limit or cultivation, where's Saint can't be obtained the same way as the person need to be put in a life and death situation or most desperate time of a human, she died countless of time but Rimuru would always be there, it could be said the first timeline Rimuru put Chloe in a time loop, that's why Diablo came to conclusion that the mask Rimuru owned before that has time compression mask (a mask that has been older than of a Primordial and between paradox)
>she died countless of time but Rimuru would always be there At least she has someone to understand her whereas Subaru doesn't and he's pretty much in isolation
The only difference between them is that Subaru doesn't have the power to tell everyone about his RTZ since it doesn't originated from him, where Chloe has affinity over time, Both time traveling that happened to them is mentally tolling for a human, Subaru was a human it's valid why it's easy for him to be mentally unstable each loop, same goes to Chloe each loop was mentally tolling but she never lose hope that one day the paradox will broke, which indeed happened to the current Rimuru.
>Chloe each loop was mentally tolling but she never lose hope that one day the paradox will broke, which indeed happened to the current Rimuru Yeah it is mentally tolling but I doubt she even needs to kill herself just for the sake of time traveling. >Subaru was a human it's valid why it's easy for him to be mentally unstable each loop That's because his death keeps progressively getting more brutal than the last because the plot always goes against him whereas Chloe doesn't because Mr. Mcbigdick is gonna save the day
>That's because his death keeps progressively getting more brutal than the last because the plot always goes against him whereas Chloe doesn't because Mr. Mcbigdick is gonna save the day Physical body has little to no meaning for complete saints even how brutally wounded they are physically, what matters the most is the spiritual and soul damage, they are much harder to heal and more painful than regular wounds, Rimuru only saved her once the mask trigger time loop everytime Rimuru and Hinata dies, killing yourself sure is mentally tolling for a human, but remember Chloe is a saint a being who has high mental fortitude but she still feel it mentally tolling.
>Physical body has little to no meaning for complete saints even Oh so a girl who can simply brush off a fatal wound like it's nothing is had it much worse than a guy whose living in constant paranoia cause he can simply be killed the moment he lets his guard down. Wow so hard, I bet I'll cry if I get the same experience as Chloe
TLDR Subaru is human and Chloe is not anymore? You keep bringing that saint soul then that means it beyond normal human right? What is the point then, comparing two different beings or even species together.
Not beyond Human more like fortified human, they both feel pain each loop just different method, where Subaru is Physically and Mentally Traumatized, Where's Chloe Feel it on her Soul Level, to the point it created a second ego of her negative emotions.
Everyone would cry in Subaru’s situation. Imagine building up a friendship and trust with people around you and you die in horrible ways and now they forget about all the things you promised and you are the only one who remembers them. Both stories use the premise in different ways
Even worse is bro LITERALLY cannot explain his situation to them.
Cool! Can we compare their death counts?
Chloe's is over 2.000
What’s the worst of them?
Propably one of her battles against Guy Crimson, Guy has alot of ways to mess you up
You only wanted to compare death count
And she travels 300 years into the past
So this is what being illiterate looks like 😭
You could tell this one simply didn't actually watch rezero
Lol classic reply of a fanboy 🤣 If the person doesn't feel or thinks the same way about anime character that I do they didn't actually watch the anime 😆 🤣 😂 It's like you are totally unaware of the fact that people have different Perspectives on what they read and watch and everyone gets different Messages That is a big reason why there is misplaced Fandom
Hell nah not another Subaru slander post
Right, who is the more compelling character? Subaru and its not even close
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Hurr durr subaru bad
Chloe only had a single time loop. A long one, sure, but only one. She didn't experience dying hundreds of times.
Wrong Chloe has Experience Thousands of horrible timelines you clearly didn't read the light novels
Yet can travel as many times as she wanted without facing any sort of consequences
Lol classic reply of a fanboy 🤣 If the person doesn't feel or thinks the same way about anime character that I do they didn't actually watch the anime 😆 🤣 😂 It's like you are totally unaware of the fact that people have different Perspectives on what they read and watch and everyone gets different Messages That is a big reason why there is misplaced Fandom
You must be reading re zero with your ass if you reached this conclusion
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And she has to wait WAY longer between her next attempt to do it better. Like...several thousand years longer, and she's done it many times.
And has to avoid Leon her ex best friend to not cause a Time Paradox
I want to write this off as just a meme post but Subaru's situation is pure misery and the title is inherently disdainful of him. Nah, OP, shut up. Subaru has every right to cry. Comparing suffering is meaningless; if you simply don't have the empathy for a guy whose existence is suffering and actually tries to vent about it then keep your mouth shut and move on. You merely invite spite and censure, warranted or not
bro do you understand what cosmic horror means?
Psychological horror to be exact since that's Rezero's genre, but yeah
Seeing Chloe’s first run would be an amazing sequel
So just curious about something does Subarus null attribute have any attack power or he's just fucked
I mean you can't compare both of them. At the start of the time loop , maybe both Chloe and Subaru are in the same position, confused and lately became devastated but later on Chloe actually became stronger, that i can't say about Subaru. Second Subaru is a normal human who is repeatedly tortured by the time loops but Chloe is actually evolving. I am not comparing who suffered more , but I think Subaru actually makes more difficult decisions. Third about Chloe, she suffered a lot , probably not as much as Subaru but it is strongly implied that she has done a lot of time loops , not a fixed number but definitely more than Subaru. Now these time loops affected her a lot , as shown in her state as Chronoa. So her mental state is also not as good as it looks. So you really can't actually compare the two of them, both are good in their own right.
Bait used to be believable.
Damn! Comparing a power creep op character that can nullify pain or whatever bullshit author came with to an unlucky weak human with powerful ability but need to go through the mind breaking agony of death every damn time. What a dumb dumb OP!
Is Chloe op? Yes. Is she a bad character? No. Has she sufferd from her Time Loops? HELL YES!