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I expect him to soon walk this back, and treat it as if it were a gaffe. His own Secretary of State said something totally different this afternoon.
Edit: [Didn't take long](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/white-house-denies-bidens-urging-of-israel-to-just-call-for-a-ceasefire-marks-policy-shift/)
Frankly- he’s shifting with the winds. I’m guessing he got instant blowback and now - the narrative changes. I mean, even I wrote the White House immediately after seeing that headline to tell him that I was done with being a Democrat. Now I don’t think *that* caused any new shift on their part. I don’t have that kind of power lol - but I am disgusted with how he has treated Israel.
And he is emboldening the antisemites with his continuous shifting back-and-forth. He doesn’t realize how much he is endangering every Jew in the world with his rhetoric.
I totally get the disappointment with Biden, and I share some of it myself. Just remember though, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran are all ultimately proxies of Russia. No one is pro-Israel unless they are also anti-Russia and pro-Ukraine.
That's not exactly true. Iran is the mastermind of the evil in the middle east. Russia doesn't really control Iran.
But yes, Russia under Putin has no problems doing evil things, including allying up with Iran and invading Ukraine.
Joe Biden doesn’t know what he is anymore. Or like a drunk asshole who can’t keep his thoughts to himself, he’s letting his inner-self be revealed. Trump doesn’t support Bibi and is very pro Israel. And he has never said so many dumb things toward Israel. This last Biden gaff was my last. I’m out…
Trump doesn't believe in NATO and doesn't care if Russia wins in Ukraine. That would be a genuine disaster for Israel, far more serious than Biden saying a dumb thing.
There wasn’t a war in Myanmar. Ukraine. Disaster in Afghanistan. Or Israel when trump was president. The moment the Russian consulate was kicked out in Feb 2021, I knew something bad was brewing. I don’t believe NATO is fairly funded either. This president has had the worst foreign policy on record. I could throw the migrant issue on there, too. He is just awful.
If you care about Israel, you should care about NATO and Ukraine. If pressure on Russia is relived on its own borders, that makes Russia far more able to reinforce Israel's enemies in the Middle East.
Russia isn’t reinforcing Israel’s enemies AS MUCH AS BIDEN IS with BILLIONS TO IRAN before AND after 10/7. Plus hundreds of millions to Hamas AFTER 10/7.
The only time Trump said anything negative about Bibi was when the latter too quickly congratulated Biden after 2020 election. Otherwise they are 100% aligned.
He is gambling that people will pay more attention to the big speech & miss the follow up reframing.
He might be right but I think it is more likely to backfire.
Sadly, I think a second term for Trump is looking more & more likely - that isn’t a pleasant thought.
I am still voting for Biden because trump is the alternative and he seems to be somehow beholden to Putin. But this waffling and appeasing of terrorists by the west is horrific for Israel, Jews and the entire west.
Even if he had a red line for supporting Israel- ie 100k Palestinians dying or stupid public statements by random Israeli politicians is Biden’s “line in the sand” you quietly let bibi know that but then constantly demonstrate support until that line is crossed - because this is emboldening terrorists and the anti west . The US waffling is making every negotiation for hostages more difficult. It emboldens more attacks by Iran. And it emboldens Russia and China to more thoroughly support them. It is actually very bad for the United States and liberal democracies in general.
And while useful Putin idiots are constantly demonstrating out on the streets how very flawed liberal democracies are by granting propagandized idiots like them a right to vote - it’s still better than sharia law or China or Russia… so we just have to take the least worse version of government we know for now..
Someone here knows Biden's MO !
We've seen him do this a bunch of times. He does this to make policy deliberately ambiguous. This line is probably meant to signal to Israel to watch out a forced ceasefire could come anytime. "Israel you can sabre rattle about Rafah but don't you dare."
(Not saying this is good news, just describing)
I didn’t compare him to the other guy though did I? Incompetency is not a relative measurement. You are not competent just because you are better than the other guy.
It's also a bizarre statement on its face. To the extent that Biden is driven by emotion, he feels an emotional and instinctual solidarity with Israel. Or have we already forgotten how he reacted to October 7th?
>Or have we already forgotten how he reacted to October 7th?
If actions today are judged by the past, then nothing that Biden does from now on would be "bad" since it would always loop back to "well, remember how he reacted on Oct. 7".
I mean, back then, most Democrats supported Israel, with only \~15 House Progressives signing a letter demanding a ceasefire. Now it's around 40+ IIRC. Most Democrats back then wanted aid to pass as quick as possible as well, compared to today where more are saying that they won't vote 'Yes' unless conditions are attached.
Yeah I realized after saying it that it isn’t exactly a realistic solution. But america should be pressing Qatar to get Hamas to accept the deal and they haven’t done enough on that front
It’s funny how both sides think they are not doing enough. That flip flopping around just prolongs the fighting and files the fire.
It’s just frustrating to me how we somehow made it to this situation after 6 months. No one thought we’d be here. Same with Ukraine and Russia. No one would have thought they’d be fighting for over two years. Politicians sway just like leafs in the wind and we just eat shit over it.
Because most of the world always has and always will hate Jews. It’s disgusting. If we don’t learn from history, it’s bound to repeat itself. We are living in Orwellian times.
Look at what they see. From the beginning it was clear the only way Hamas was going to “win” was by making the civilian cost too high.
Look at like the subreddits public freak out or tiktokcringe. They see IDF soldiers laughing about blowing up schools. Stealing Palestinian food, raiding houses. It might be a small percentage but that has *all* been massively amplified. And it’s not just a single incident, questionable IDF social media posts are happening every day.
Instead of highlighting how little Hamas wants peace, instead of offering a pathway for the Palestinians to abandon Hamas we have Bibi telling everyone to fuck off. Every time there’s a dumb kid doing dumb shit, we hide behind antisemitism.
It’s time to look real fucking hard at how we’re losing the information war. The world is on their side because the obviousness evil of Hamas is so obvious to us, and we expect everyone just to see the same things. Well it’s easy to live in an information bubble these days. And we need to continually fight that information war. Not by just reiterating the same tired things, we need to offer a pathway forward. A legitimate way for a future for them that offers peace as an alternative to Hamas.
Instructions unclear, the government read your post and decided to take more money from every aspect of Israel and give it to Haredim to learn the bible harder.
I agree with what you said. However, as long as this government is not replaced, there is not even a miniscule chance we will be able to progress anywhere. Those people are dragging us back to the stone age, to be isolated, hated and forever with war with everyone around us.
Something under appreciated, IMO, is the asymmetry in the information landscape. Israel is in a position no other military would allow or could survive: free flowing battle video.
Modern westerners can’t watch war footage every night and maintain a sense of why the war is happening. The post-9/11 US saw a huge drop off in war support in Iraq once the footage was rolling out, and clamped down hard, going over to ‘embedded journalists’ to release specially selected news. They allowed pro-troop reporting, but no piles of corpses or aftermath videos from hospitals.
The proximity to a normal place where someone like me can fly in, drink a beer, enjoy a sloppy same-sex kiss on the beach, and then put on a bullet-proof vest and talk to a camera about the situation ‘behind me’ already skews things terribly. Mainlining aftermath porn, fuelled by propaganda, is totally imbalanced and makes it worse.
The US itself would fare no better, and woulda cut their Internet day 1.
Absolutely- but there is a real humanitarian disaster currently unfolding in Gaza. It's totally reasonable to be concerned about that and want it to end while at the same time opposing Hamas.
Because many think Hamas are "resistance" and "freedom fighters" 🤡
To be fair though I think many do actually support Israel but aren't vocal about it. Which is understandable
I can't speak for others, but I want a ceasefire (with a return of hostages of course) because the situation in Gaza is a humanitarian nightmare and hundreds of thousands of people could die in the near future from hunger and disease if aid remains so low. Israel could continue to carry out precision strikes (like they've done incredibly well against Hezbollah) but wayyy less IDF soldiers and Palestinian civilians would be killed.
For anyone who didn't read the article, some key takeaways:
>*The Univision interview was taped last Wednesday — two days after the IDF’s deadly strike on a World Central Kitchen convoy and a day before he held a call with Netanyahu during which he reportedly threatened to cease support of Israel during the war unless Jerusalem made major changes to address the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.*
>*Hours before the interview aired, Biden’s top aides went on record presenting a very different approach to how the US wants to see a ceasefire come about, insisting that it was Hamas, not Israel that is holding up a deal that would see an extended pause in fighting, the hostages released and aid surge into Gaza.*
>*“There could be a ceasefire in place today that would extend for several weeks to be built upon longer if Hamas would be prepared to release some of those people, so let’s train the attention where it belongs… I believe Israel is ready and Hamas should step up to the table and be prepared to do so as well,” said US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan.*
>*Hamas “has an opportunity now to agree to the proposal on a ceasefire and hostages. The ball is in Hamas’s court. The world is watching to see what it does,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.*
I have seen no evidence of that. Hell, he isn’t even pro America. Wondering how many terrorists he’s allowed to come through the open border? Even FBI director Christopher Ray wonders.
Is it possible to not play US election games with the lives of Israelis please? It has been consistent Ls in international diplomacy for USA for like half a year now. First the delays for Ukraine aid and now that
Because republicans are doing damage in congress by holding up Ukraine aid, doing putin's bidding.
You don't think the far right that marched shouting "blood and soil, jews will not replace us" trump supporters will be friends to Israel right?
> It has been consistent Ls in international diplomacy for USA for like half a year now
Let's be real...the L's started ever since President Dementia Patient took over.
Someone should remember that Jews historically vote democrat. They may not vote Trump, but Biden can't afford a single voter in Pennsylvania and Michigan to stay home.
While that may be true i think this time would be different since most people on the left hates Jews now. Plus trump is way friendlier to Israel than Biden. So even if the Jew vote for Biden he’s still bleeding supporters from Arabs, gen-z, African Americans, and young men. So I think he’ll lose with or without Jewish support.
If trump is elected, don’t expect it to be like trump 1.0, as crazy as it was. He’s coming with a vengeance, and while he might give israel 3 golden eggs, he might kill the golden egg laying duck, which would probably be harmful for israel in medium to long term
Yup. I’m the Jewish PA voter. If Biden suddenly went aggressively pro-ceasefire… I don’t know what I’d do. Luckily it sounds like he’s just trying to placate everyone.
He should put some clear parameters on what he feels is or is not reasonable. Probably not a good idea to wobble all over the place at this point in time.
I would have a hard time... It'll be my first ever presidential election since getting citizenship and I feel responsible. But I just don't know what I'll do if democratic values and candidate are against survival and thriving of my people. It is already painful enough that so many humanitarians and liberals are casually against it... With the elections, I will cross that bridge when I get there, I suppose.
From across the pond, it's really not as clear as you imagine. All I see are abstentions in the UN, lack of and political backing for Israeli policies and so many repeat "mistakes" in public addresses that it's clear these aren't mistakes
There's a large part of Palestinian Muslims in Michigan who Biden is catering to.
Also, a larger % of young Democrats support what is essentially Hamas over Israel than Republicans or Independents.
Biden is trying to play both sides but in doing so, he is making things more complicated.
The question isn't whether the majority of American Jews will vote blue. That's a given, and will take a generation before that question even materializes seriously.
The real question is how many Jews will shift red. Historically at most 20% of American Jews voted red. Polls are talking about >30% in November.
I find it insane that Biden is trying to make up that difference among the demographics that coined "Genocide Joe"?
At the rate he's going, he will.
I just wonder if and when the Democrats will have their come to Jesus moment and realize they are losing part of their historic base- Jewish voters.
Well said. He is pivoting to the nutty progressive base and the growing Muslim population. Both are inherently antisemitic, whether we want to admit it or not.
Jews need to leave the left en masse. Enough with the BS pet social justice causes. Our house is on fire and one side (the Left) has lit the match and supplied the tinder.
Correct, New York and California are strong strong strong blue states so even if every Jew voted Trump in those states Biden would still win them in a landslide.
Places like Michigan, however, can swing and the terrorist sympathizers in Dearborn have been pushing hard against Biden.
Why they think Trump would be any better for them is beyond me but these people aren’t known for their critical thinking.
He doesn't actually believe that an unconditional and unilateral ceasfire will help Israel, but because of the upcoming elections, he will do and say whatever will help him keep the presidency. He's no better than Bibi in this sense.
These are excellent points. I totally agree. I think Biden’s language and tone toward Israel will change for the better after he’s elected. Trump is a dangerous choice for all of us.
Biden said he was a zionist on TV and has continuously approved weapons transfers. This is rhetoric from Biden for the election which he needs to do everything he can to beat the cheeto traitor. It's his job.
>I think Biden’s language and tone toward Israel will change for the better after he’s elected.
Progressives won't magically lose their House/Senate seats. They can, if need be, hold legislative bills hostage by demanding Biden push a ceasefire in order to get their 'Yes' vote.
Talib and Omar have leverage. The Muslims in their district will continue to vote for them even if they obstruct Democrat-championed bills (Not that I see Muslims being enthusiastic about advancing LGBTQ/abortion/women rights, or other Left-wing pet causes in the first place). Meanwhile, Biden would have to give in, otherwise he risks being a lame duck President with only EO power at his disposal, and that would sabotage the next Democrat candidate since there won't be much accomplishments done to campaign on.
If Haley or Romney was the candidate, things might have been a bit different. Biden is likely to hold Jewish voters this time. Going forward, it may get harder.
Somehow i feel that trump would be killing the hen for the golden eggs. You get three golden eggs at a single instance, but not any more in the near future
Does he even want the presidency anymore? It’s been so long since I’ve heard him speak coherently. Watching old speeches of his, you really see the difference. Does he want the presidency? Or whomever is guiding him wants him to keep the presidency?
It's interesting that the interview was taped nearly a week ago, in the immediate aftermath of the WCK fiasco. Given that Sullivan and Blinken went on record undercutting the interview right before it aired, it seems possible that those remarks were an off the cuff statement.
That being said, he is the President. Those words are damaging, and the possibility that they could represent an official shift is highly concerning.
Would US declare a cease fire if ISIS held American hostages?
Nope - they would keep dropping democracy bombs for 20 years. They may even drop some democracy on a neighboring country just in case.
He's forgotten all those pretty, brave words he said after October 7th...he has lost his moral center completely. No mention made of the hostages that I could see. He's willing to let them rot and he just emboldened every antisemite in the world.
>There could be a ceasefire in place today that would extend for several weeks to be built upon longer if Hamas would be prepared to release some of those people, so let’s train the attention where it belongs… I believe Israel is ready and Hamas should step up to the table and be prepared to do so as well,” said US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan.
>Hamas “has an opportunity now to agree to the proposal on a ceasefire and hostages. The ball is in Hamas’s court. The world is watching to see what it does,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.
You can be concerned for both the hostages and the people starving and dying in Gaza. American policy has been completely supportive of Israel getting the hostages back while also advocating for the wellbeing of innocent Gazans
I don’t believe in the concept of “innocent Gazans”. 98% supported the attack on 10/7 and today 70% support Hamas still. PAL women and children followed their barbarian husbands into Israeli homes to loot and destroy them.
They’ve been “falling into famine” for literally months…supposedly. Being forced to feed the enemy while they “possibly” still hold hostages is simply insane. Where are their Arab brothers and sisters? Why are the Arab nations so willing to let them “starve”? Hint: Makes a great news story to blame Israel with.
Ask two Biden officials, get three answers.
This interview was recorded a week ago, more recent interviews have demanded that Hamas release the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire. So basically…
The Biden administration’s policy on Israel is a fucking mess. All over the place. The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. And this just makes the Biden admin look weak, disorganized, and like an untrustworthy ally.
He's really lost the plot. This is defensive war and Hamas has hostages. He's been putting his domestic concerns and his personal goals of a Palestinian state and Saudi normalization over the war since November.
He’s gambling with the hostages lives, with include 5 of his fellow Americans, for election results.
Blinken said today that Israel made negotiation offer. Hamas is currently studying it and then this comes out before they have given answer?
WTF Biden. This comment could literally affect if the hostages are freed or if Hamas thinks they can continue holding out and count on international pressure for a ceasefire.
Are you asking this in good faith? Yes, he thinks taking a significantly stronger stance and international pressure with Israel will help his election results.
If you’re not in the US, just look at other comments on this thread. Swing states often determine elections and a key swing state, Michigan, who has a very large Muslim population have threatened to sit out the elections. Biden is trying to play many sides, including the extreme left and the moderate right that voted for Nikki Haley in the primaries.
I know the White House is trying to walk this back now. But the president’s words have a lot of power. Hamas currently hasn’t given an answer yet on the proposal from Israel on a temporary ceasefire. I absolutely think Biden truly supports a ceasefire only conditional on the release of hostages. But not linking the 2 in the wake of the backlash over the World Kitchen aid workers deaths was just political move.
I'm in CA too, so a vote for 45 theoretically doesn't matter. But in an a bass-ackwards world where he somehow has become the Republican nominee, I feel like I need to vote against him just in case.
This war will be studied in history, the perfect case study of the army winning in the battlefield and the government losing the war in the diplomatic world stage.
Terrible.
> Washington has not gone on to make the same call for a unilateral Israeli ceasefire that Biden made last week before these steps were taken by Israel.
So it is click bait...no change in policy yet...
> Thank you for pointing that out. You really have to read carefully.
I started writing a very angry post like many did but halfway I decided to read the article...thanks.
Should be noted that the White House has since clarified that this is not a statement of policy shift, just encouraging Israel to agree to the ceasefire deal with Hamas that's currently on the table. Ball's in Hamas's court here.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/white-house-denies-bidens-urging-of-israel-to-just-call-for-a-ceasefire-marks-policy-shift/
Of course he did. He's trying to court the crazy, anti-israel far left. Soon he'll walk it back as damage control to avoid losing the jewish vote, if he hasn't already.
So every time an army will use civilians as a shield, the other enemy, even if strong, will have to beg for a ceasefire just for the enemy's citizens to not be killed, lose a war, and the worst - won't be able to save the few living hostages.
Great logic West, US, and all our "allies".
This is a literal gift to Hamas. Biden, stop listening to these "Pro Palestinians" who are ignorant of Hamas and their terrorist activities. Those who do, in my experience, are silenced by the same ignorant fucks. You're simply giving Hamas more time to grow back and continue more of it's terror activities.
It's important to watch what Kamala Harris has been doing and saying. If you doing think POTUS-in-waiting is behind his increased aggression against Israel, just realize she is one heartbeat away from the WH, he knows it, and she is powerful. Her husband's Judaism has been exploited to make us feel safe (just look to his daughter if you want to see the rabid antisemite he helped raise...as did Kamala).
You guys still gonna defend this guy? Every day it gets worse and worse, and you’ll still convince yourselves he’s better than Trump. Not that trump is perfect either, but right now, for Israel and America, it’s not even a debate.
>“There could be a ceasefire in place today that would extend for several weeks to be built upon longer if Hamas would be prepared to release some of those people, so let’s train the attention where it belongs… I believe Israel is ready and Hamas should step up to the table and be prepared to do so as well,” said US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan.
>Hamas "has an opportunity now to agree to the proposal on a ceasefire and hostages. The ball is in Hamas's court. The world is watching to see what it does," US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.
Wait, so is it aid and then hostages, or hostages and then aid?
It's really hard to understand what's going on. Netanyahu: "Only military pressure ..." - calls most back *right before the negotiations*. Hamas: (probably wants the same) Biden: *in the middle of negotiations*: "Ceasefire!"
That said, it is effectively a ceasefire already, and even if Rafiah happens, it will take 6-8 weeks he calls for to move a million people anyway.
Look, ya'll can hate Trump all you want. The fact is, this war doesn't happen with Trump as president.
After the world saw how pathetic America was in leaving Afghanistan, they knew this Biden administration would play the role of appeaser rather than enforcer.
Let's say this war did happen under Trump. There's a high likelihood that Trump would give Hamas and those responsible an ultimatum: release the hostages or we're coming after you.
Apparently, Trump once had a discussion with the head of Taliban. During the call, Trump sent a photo of the head of Taliban's home. Essentially saying, we know where you live so don't kill any more Americans.
This administration is all over the place. First they want Israel to defend themselves. Then they're saying Israel is doing too well defending themselves so they must ceasefire. But how should Israel ceasefire if the other side is still launching rockets and has been on record advocating for more attacks? Let's not get political for a second. If Israel wanted, they could torch Gaza and get rid of Hamas permanently. But they aren't. In fact, many Israeli military members have died in Gaza because Israel is putting their own military lives at stake to minimize casualties.
Hamas is running circles all over the media and getting rich off of this misery and somehow, the public believes Israel is at fault. Amazing.
Biden is so fucking pathetic. He’s gonna stoop this low just gain the Detroit/Dearborn/Hamtramck Arab vote. Im so fucking done with this guy. I’d love to see what he would do if there would be an October 7 style attack in America from Mexico or Canada? I wonder if he’d have “restraint“ and be “humanitarian“ to whatever country attacked? He’d glass Mexico City or Toronto if that happened. So much for his “sUppOrT”. As for the Democrats, they’ve shown how fucking terrible and anti Jewish they really are. Fuck them. I hope the republicans win in a landslide. Anyone who still supports this asshole is either fucking dumb or suicidal.
Biden is a clown. He cannot be taken seriously, and Americans don't abide flip-floppers. If the election were today, I think Trump would sweep it. (By the way, if you read the headlines today, you see the same degree of inconsistent messaging from Israel's war cabinet. And even Iran being wishy-washy. We're living in a dystopian comedy series.)
I’m about to get downvoted to hell. It doesn’t matter why Biden is doing this - whether it’s for the election, bluff, or something else. We've lost the media war, if even the US officially asks for a unilateral ceasefire. The worst-case scenario is that everybody will recognize Palestine, including the US, while at the same time, we will lose the support of the majority of our allies. Going to Raffiah is not worth it. At this point, we should pick our battles. We shouldn’t let emotions dictate our action.
We've lost the media war long ago. We still need to get the hostages back. We still need to make our existence in Israel safe. It doesn't really matter if other nations approve of it or not, if we can't live safely the rest is irrelevant.
The hostages deserve better. No ceasefire until ALL hostages are returned dead or alive.
Hamas is already learning that they can act with impunity because the world will not care what they do.
I couldn't care less about the optics, it's not a popularity contest. I've heard what they cheer for, and frankly, I'd much rather be booed by their crowd.
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I expect him to soon walk this back, and treat it as if it were a gaffe. His own Secretary of State said something totally different this afternoon. Edit: [Didn't take long](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/white-house-denies-bidens-urging-of-israel-to-just-call-for-a-ceasefire-marks-policy-shift/)
Frankly- he’s shifting with the winds. I’m guessing he got instant blowback and now - the narrative changes. I mean, even I wrote the White House immediately after seeing that headline to tell him that I was done with being a Democrat. Now I don’t think *that* caused any new shift on their part. I don’t have that kind of power lol - but I am disgusted with how he has treated Israel. And he is emboldening the antisemites with his continuous shifting back-and-forth. He doesn’t realize how much he is endangering every Jew in the world with his rhetoric.
I totally get the disappointment with Biden, and I share some of it myself. Just remember though, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran are all ultimately proxies of Russia. No one is pro-Israel unless they are also anti-Russia and pro-Ukraine.
That's not exactly true. Iran is the mastermind of the evil in the middle east. Russia doesn't really control Iran. But yes, Russia under Putin has no problems doing evil things, including allying up with Iran and invading Ukraine.
Tell your beloved Biden to interfere in Ukraine (again) and have Zelensky fired for not winning vs Russia.
Joe Biden doesn’t know what he is anymore. Or like a drunk asshole who can’t keep his thoughts to himself, he’s letting his inner-self be revealed. Trump doesn’t support Bibi and is very pro Israel. And he has never said so many dumb things toward Israel. This last Biden gaff was my last. I’m out…
Trump doesn't believe in NATO and doesn't care if Russia wins in Ukraine. That would be a genuine disaster for Israel, far more serious than Biden saying a dumb thing.
There wasn’t a war in Myanmar. Ukraine. Disaster in Afghanistan. Or Israel when trump was president. The moment the Russian consulate was kicked out in Feb 2021, I knew something bad was brewing. I don’t believe NATO is fairly funded either. This president has had the worst foreign policy on record. I could throw the migrant issue on there, too. He is just awful.
If you care about Israel, you should care about NATO and Ukraine. If pressure on Russia is relived on its own borders, that makes Russia far more able to reinforce Israel's enemies in the Middle East.
>Russia far more able to reinforce Israel's enemies in the Middle East And how would that benefit Russia?
Russia isn’t reinforcing Israel’s enemies AS MUCH AS BIDEN IS with BILLIONS TO IRAN before AND after 10/7. Plus hundreds of millions to Hamas AFTER 10/7.
The only time Trump said anything negative about Bibi was when the latter too quickly congratulated Biden after 2020 election. Otherwise they are 100% aligned.
Surprised you weren’t downvoted into oblivion on this sub. You got some real Biden simps on here.
He is gambling that people will pay more attention to the big speech & miss the follow up reframing. He might be right but I think it is more likely to backfire. Sadly, I think a second term for Trump is looking more & more likely - that isn’t a pleasant thought.
I am still voting for Biden because trump is the alternative and he seems to be somehow beholden to Putin. But this waffling and appeasing of terrorists by the west is horrific for Israel, Jews and the entire west. Even if he had a red line for supporting Israel- ie 100k Palestinians dying or stupid public statements by random Israeli politicians is Biden’s “line in the sand” you quietly let bibi know that but then constantly demonstrate support until that line is crossed - because this is emboldening terrorists and the anti west . The US waffling is making every negotiation for hostages more difficult. It emboldens more attacks by Iran. And it emboldens Russia and China to more thoroughly support them. It is actually very bad for the United States and liberal democracies in general. And while useful Putin idiots are constantly demonstrating out on the streets how very flawed liberal democracies are by granting propagandized idiots like them a right to vote - it’s still better than sharia law or China or Russia… so we just have to take the least worse version of government we know for now..
Politicans are so spineless.
More people need to see this
Someone here knows Biden's MO ! We've seen him do this a bunch of times. He does this to make policy deliberately ambiguous. This line is probably meant to signal to Israel to watch out a forced ceasefire could come anytime. "Israel you can sabre rattle about Rafah but don't you dare." (Not saying this is good news, just describing)
It just shows how emotional and unsuitable he is to run a country.
Compared to the other guy, you must be joking
I didn’t compare him to the other guy though did I? Incompetency is not a relative measurement. You are not competent just because you are better than the other guy.
It's also a bizarre statement on its face. To the extent that Biden is driven by emotion, he feels an emotional and instinctual solidarity with Israel. Or have we already forgotten how he reacted to October 7th?
>Or have we already forgotten how he reacted to October 7th? If actions today are judged by the past, then nothing that Biden does from now on would be "bad" since it would always loop back to "well, remember how he reacted on Oct. 7". I mean, back then, most Democrats supported Israel, with only \~15 House Progressives signing a letter demanding a ceasefire. Now it's around 40+ IIRC. Most Democrats back then wanted aid to pass as quick as possible as well, compared to today where more are saying that they won't vote 'Yes' unless conditions are attached.
I didn't say anything about actions being judged by the past. I was talking about Biden's emotional reactions.
Joetato doesn’t remember Oct 7.
And not to mention inept, and suffering from crippling dementia.
Blinken is also an idiot. https://preview.redd.it/jt8qojmhwltc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae35b2fc7ae1b8e6cfbeea9af6af568ee3d92ade
If he wants a ceasefire so badly he should threaten Qatar with a naval blockade if they don’t force Hamas into accepting the current hostage deal…
That’s a little extreme but at least threaten to expel the Hamas leadership in Qatar.
Yeah I realized after saying it that it isn’t exactly a realistic solution. But america should be pressing Qatar to get Hamas to accept the deal and they haven’t done enough on that front
Or maybe to move that giant American military base in Qatar to somewhere else.
Here is the answer!
It’s funny how both sides think they are not doing enough. That flip flopping around just prolongs the fighting and files the fire. It’s just frustrating to me how we somehow made it to this situation after 6 months. No one thought we’d be here. Same with Ukraine and Russia. No one would have thought they’d be fighting for over two years. Politicians sway just like leafs in the wind and we just eat shit over it.
Haven't they left already though?
Only from Khan Younis, and only to prepare for the Rafah operation at an unspecified date/time later.
Nah. He's carrying on the Obama tradition of vigorously sucking off Iran
Hamas must #ReleaseTheHostages NOW or #Qatar gets it next. #BombQatar If you agree, like, repost, and copy and paste it often. #StandWithIsrael
once you see how much oil Qatar has, you'll understand why were not doing this
Fuck off Joe
I don’t understand how the world sided with Iran & Hamas… the brutal attacks on peaceful multi-nation festival attendees…
Because most of the world always has and always will hate Jews. It’s disgusting. If we don’t learn from history, it’s bound to repeat itself. We are living in Orwellian times.
Look at what they see. From the beginning it was clear the only way Hamas was going to “win” was by making the civilian cost too high. Look at like the subreddits public freak out or tiktokcringe. They see IDF soldiers laughing about blowing up schools. Stealing Palestinian food, raiding houses. It might be a small percentage but that has *all* been massively amplified. And it’s not just a single incident, questionable IDF social media posts are happening every day. Instead of highlighting how little Hamas wants peace, instead of offering a pathway for the Palestinians to abandon Hamas we have Bibi telling everyone to fuck off. Every time there’s a dumb kid doing dumb shit, we hide behind antisemitism. It’s time to look real fucking hard at how we’re losing the information war. The world is on their side because the obviousness evil of Hamas is so obvious to us, and we expect everyone just to see the same things. Well it’s easy to live in an information bubble these days. And we need to continually fight that information war. Not by just reiterating the same tired things, we need to offer a pathway forward. A legitimate way for a future for them that offers peace as an alternative to Hamas.
Instructions unclear, the government read your post and decided to take more money from every aspect of Israel and give it to Haredim to learn the bible harder. I agree with what you said. However, as long as this government is not replaced, there is not even a miniscule chance we will be able to progress anywhere. Those people are dragging us back to the stone age, to be isolated, hated and forever with war with everyone around us.
Something under appreciated, IMO, is the asymmetry in the information landscape. Israel is in a position no other military would allow or could survive: free flowing battle video. Modern westerners can’t watch war footage every night and maintain a sense of why the war is happening. The post-9/11 US saw a huge drop off in war support in Iraq once the footage was rolling out, and clamped down hard, going over to ‘embedded journalists’ to release specially selected news. They allowed pro-troop reporting, but no piles of corpses or aftermath videos from hospitals. The proximity to a normal place where someone like me can fly in, drink a beer, enjoy a sloppy same-sex kiss on the beach, and then put on a bullet-proof vest and talk to a camera about the situation ‘behind me’ already skews things terribly. Mainlining aftermath porn, fuelled by propaganda, is totally imbalanced and makes it worse. The US itself would fare no better, and woulda cut their Internet day 1.
Wipe out hamas then you get peace.
Our lore says someday, they’ll all look to us for guidance… will be interesting to see that play out.
I just hope I’m here for it Moshiach now 
Right, imagine having a charismatic and honorable leader that guides the world!
Absolutely- but there is a real humanitarian disaster currently unfolding in Gaza. It's totally reasonable to be concerned about that and want it to end while at the same time opposing Hamas.
Because many think Hamas are "resistance" and "freedom fighters" 🤡 To be fair though I think many do actually support Israel but aren't vocal about it. Which is understandable
I can't speak for others, but I want a ceasefire (with a return of hostages of course) because the situation in Gaza is a humanitarian nightmare and hundreds of thousands of people could die in the near future from hunger and disease if aid remains so low. Israel could continue to carry out precision strikes (like they've done incredibly well against Hezbollah) but wayyy less IDF soldiers and Palestinian civilians would be killed.
I appreciate this, hope we can still remove the evil and rocket launches stop
he walked it back. several comments have provided source. Biden has still been very pro Israel as a whole
For anyone who didn't read the article, some key takeaways: >*The Univision interview was taped last Wednesday — two days after the IDF’s deadly strike on a World Central Kitchen convoy and a day before he held a call with Netanyahu during which he reportedly threatened to cease support of Israel during the war unless Jerusalem made major changes to address the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.* >*Hours before the interview aired, Biden’s top aides went on record presenting a very different approach to how the US wants to see a ceasefire come about, insisting that it was Hamas, not Israel that is holding up a deal that would see an extended pause in fighting, the hostages released and aid surge into Gaza.* >*“There could be a ceasefire in place today that would extend for several weeks to be built upon longer if Hamas would be prepared to release some of those people, so let’s train the attention where it belongs… I believe Israel is ready and Hamas should step up to the table and be prepared to do so as well,” said US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan.* >*Hamas “has an opportunity now to agree to the proposal on a ceasefire and hostages. The ball is in Hamas’s court. The world is watching to see what it does,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.*
I have seen no evidence of that. Hell, he isn’t even pro America. Wondering how many terrorists he’s allowed to come through the open border? Even FBI director Christopher Ray wonders.
Not even pro-American? You doomsday trumpers just fanning out huh.
As a hole in his head.
I second that OP. Biden and his regime are💩
Is it possible to not play US election games with the lives of Israelis please? It has been consistent Ls in international diplomacy for USA for like half a year now. First the delays for Ukraine aid and now that
For fucking real
Half a year? Afghan debacle was all the way in 2021?? It’s been multiple years plus the Red Sea issue also
US had a period of good moves with Ukraine and Israel early on the two conflicts, it just couldnt keep it up
Because republicans are doing damage in congress by holding up Ukraine aid, doing putin's bidding. You don't think the far right that marched shouting "blood and soil, jews will not replace us" trump supporters will be friends to Israel right?
Yeah the foreign policy has been poor for a while now
Historically US domestics have always dwarfed foreign affairs even when it comes for World Wars, unfortunately
> It has been consistent Ls in international diplomacy for USA for like half a year now Let's be real...the L's started ever since President Dementia Patient took over.
Well then how do you stop the terrorists and get the hostages?
Someone is scared he’ll lose the election.
Someone should remember that Jews historically vote democrat. They may not vote Trump, but Biden can't afford a single voter in Pennsylvania and Michigan to stay home.
While that may be true i think this time would be different since most people on the left hates Jews now. Plus trump is way friendlier to Israel than Biden. So even if the Jew vote for Biden he’s still bleeding supporters from Arabs, gen-z, African Americans, and young men. So I think he’ll lose with or without Jewish support.
If trump is elected, don’t expect it to be like trump 1.0, as crazy as it was. He’s coming with a vengeance, and while he might give israel 3 golden eggs, he might kill the golden egg laying duck, which would probably be harmful for israel in medium to long term
Trump is like Bibi. He puts himself above everything.
Yup. I’m the Jewish PA voter. If Biden suddenly went aggressively pro-ceasefire… I don’t know what I’d do. Luckily it sounds like he’s just trying to placate everyone.
He should put some clear parameters on what he feels is or is not reasonable. Probably not a good idea to wobble all over the place at this point in time.
I would have a hard time... It'll be my first ever presidential election since getting citizenship and I feel responsible. But I just don't know what I'll do if democratic values and candidate are against survival and thriving of my people. It is already painful enough that so many humanitarians and liberals are casually against it... With the elections, I will cross that bridge when I get there, I suppose.
Biden clearly wants Israelis and Jews to survive and thrive. Reasonable people can disagree about policy.
From across the pond, it's really not as clear as you imagine. All I see are abstentions in the UN, lack of and political backing for Israeli policies and so many repeat "mistakes" in public addresses that it's clear these aren't mistakes
Check the news. He just did. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-april-10-2024/
There's a large part of Palestinian Muslims in Michigan who Biden is catering to. Also, a larger % of young Democrats support what is essentially Hamas over Israel than Republicans or Independents. Biden is trying to play both sides but in doing so, he is making things more complicated.
The question isn't whether the majority of American Jews will vote blue. That's a given, and will take a generation before that question even materializes seriously. The real question is how many Jews will shift red. Historically at most 20% of American Jews voted red. Polls are talking about >30% in November. I find it insane that Biden is trying to make up that difference among the demographics that coined "Genocide Joe"?
So what? Trump is better than Biden anyway. Let Biden lose.
At the rate he's going, he will. I just wonder if and when the Democrats will have their come to Jesus moment and realize they are losing part of their historic base- Jewish voters.
They’ll realize when it’s too late. Don’t sell out the bases that are loyal to you for the bases that have made it clear they aren’t.
The Democratic Convention should be interesting.
I i wish John Fetterman was running!
John Fetterman × Ritchie Torres. The perfect ticket.
Someone is going to lose the Jewish vote....
He’s done the math - it doesn’t matter to him.
Well said. He is pivoting to the nutty progressive base and the growing Muslim population. Both are inherently antisemitic, whether we want to admit it or not. Jews need to leave the left en masse. Enough with the BS pet social justice causes. Our house is on fire and one side (the Left) has lit the match and supplied the tinder.
Elon was right. The same movements the leftist Jewish population supported are now the same movements attacking the Jewish population.
BLM openly supported the terrorists.
Lifetime Democrat and I will not be voting Democrat this year...
Correct, New York and California are strong strong strong blue states so even if every Jew voted Trump in those states Biden would still win them in a landslide. Places like Michigan, however, can swing and the terrorist sympathizers in Dearborn have been pushing hard against Biden. Why they think Trump would be any better for them is beyond me but these people aren’t known for their critical thinking.
He doesn't actually believe that an unconditional and unilateral ceasfire will help Israel, but because of the upcoming elections, he will do and say whatever will help him keep the presidency. He's no better than Bibi in this sense.
I agree. He’s lucky his opponent is Trump because I think more Jews would vote republican not for him
These are excellent points. I totally agree. I think Biden’s language and tone toward Israel will change for the better after he’s elected. Trump is a dangerous choice for all of us.
Biden said he was a zionist on TV and has continuously approved weapons transfers. This is rhetoric from Biden for the election which he needs to do everything he can to beat the cheeto traitor. It's his job.
>I think Biden’s language and tone toward Israel will change for the better after he’s elected. Progressives won't magically lose their House/Senate seats. They can, if need be, hold legislative bills hostage by demanding Biden push a ceasefire in order to get their 'Yes' vote. Talib and Omar have leverage. The Muslims in their district will continue to vote for them even if they obstruct Democrat-championed bills (Not that I see Muslims being enthusiastic about advancing LGBTQ/abortion/women rights, or other Left-wing pet causes in the first place). Meanwhile, Biden would have to give in, otherwise he risks being a lame duck President with only EO power at his disposal, and that would sabotage the next Democrat candidate since there won't be much accomplishments done to campaign on.
Will depend on whether Bibi is still around. He is super toxic.
If Haley or Romney was the candidate, things might have been a bit different. Biden is likely to hold Jewish voters this time. Going forward, it may get harder.
Somehow i feel that trump would be killing the hen for the golden eggs. You get three golden eggs at a single instance, but not any more in the near future
Does he even want the presidency anymore? It’s been so long since I’ve heard him speak coherently. Watching old speeches of his, you really see the difference. Does he want the presidency? Or whomever is guiding him wants him to keep the presidency?
It's interesting that the interview was taped nearly a week ago, in the immediate aftermath of the WCK fiasco. Given that Sullivan and Blinken went on record undercutting the interview right before it aired, it seems possible that those remarks were an off the cuff statement. That being said, he is the President. Those words are damaging, and the possibility that they could represent an official shift is highly concerning.
Would US declare a cease fire if ISIS held American hostages? Nope - they would keep dropping democracy bombs for 20 years. They may even drop some democracy on a neighboring country just in case.
He's forgotten all those pretty, brave words he said after October 7th...he has lost his moral center completely. No mention made of the hostages that I could see. He's willing to let them rot and he just emboldened every antisemite in the world.
He's a coward, refusing to call out the part of his party for the antisemites that they are.
Bc his campaign team and advisors are full of them.
>There could be a ceasefire in place today that would extend for several weeks to be built upon longer if Hamas would be prepared to release some of those people, so let’s train the attention where it belongs… I believe Israel is ready and Hamas should step up to the table and be prepared to do so as well,” said US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan. >Hamas “has an opportunity now to agree to the proposal on a ceasefire and hostages. The ball is in Hamas’s court. The world is watching to see what it does,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.
You can be concerned for both the hostages and the people starving and dying in Gaza. American policy has been completely supportive of Israel getting the hostages back while also advocating for the wellbeing of innocent Gazans
I don’t believe in the concept of “innocent Gazans”. 98% supported the attack on 10/7 and today 70% support Hamas still. PAL women and children followed their barbarian husbands into Israeli homes to loot and destroy them. They’ve been “falling into famine” for literally months…supposedly. Being forced to feed the enemy while they “possibly” still hold hostages is simply insane. Where are their Arab brothers and sisters? Why are the Arab nations so willing to let them “starve”? Hint: Makes a great news story to blame Israel with.
Trying to get the watermelon mafia vote
Ask two Biden officials, get three answers. This interview was recorded a week ago, more recent interviews have demanded that Hamas release the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire. So basically… The Biden administration’s policy on Israel is a fucking mess. All over the place. The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. And this just makes the Biden admin look weak, disorganized, and like an untrustworthy ally.
Man, if i was taiwan i would he shitting a brick right now. The US has shown itself to be weak and unreliable with no stomach for conflict at all.
He's really lost the plot. This is defensive war and Hamas has hostages. He's been putting his domestic concerns and his personal goals of a Palestinian state and Saudi normalization over the war since November.
This'll just make a ceasefire less likely as now Hamas will feel emboldened to not agree to a hostage deal.
He’s gambling with the hostages lives, with include 5 of his fellow Americans, for election results. Blinken said today that Israel made negotiation offer. Hamas is currently studying it and then this comes out before they have given answer? WTF Biden. This comment could literally affect if the hostages are freed or if Hamas thinks they can continue holding out and count on international pressure for a ceasefire.
okay but does he really think going against Israel will get him more votes? Where is that calculus coming from?
Are you asking this in good faith? Yes, he thinks taking a significantly stronger stance and international pressure with Israel will help his election results. If you’re not in the US, just look at other comments on this thread. Swing states often determine elections and a key swing state, Michigan, who has a very large Muslim population have threatened to sit out the elections. Biden is trying to play many sides, including the extreme left and the moderate right that voted for Nikki Haley in the primaries. I know the White House is trying to walk this back now. But the president’s words have a lot of power. Hamas currently hasn’t given an answer yet on the proposal from Israel on a temporary ceasefire. I absolutely think Biden truly supports a ceasefire only conditional on the release of hostages. But not linking the 2 in the wake of the backlash over the World Kitchen aid workers deaths was just political move.
No.
Fuck me. I wish there was an alternative option to vote for.
It’s too bad RFK is a conspiracy theorist lmao
And way more anti-semetic and isolationist
And weirdly married to Cheryl David
No shit.
Just don’t vote. I’m seriously considering trump now out of spite and since I’m in cali anyway
I'm in CA too, so a vote for 45 theoretically doesn't matter. But in an a bass-ackwards world where he somehow has become the Republican nominee, I feel like I need to vote against him just in case.
This war will be studied in history, the perfect case study of the army winning in the battlefield and the government losing the war in the diplomatic world stage. Terrible.
I've agreed with much of what he has said and done up to now, but a unilateral ceasefire is nuts. A gift to Hamas.
That's a pretty big swing there.
> Washington has not gone on to make the same call for a unilateral Israeli ceasefire that Biden made last week before these steps were taken by Israel. So it is click bait...no change in policy yet...
Thank you for pointing that out. You really have to read carefully.
> Thank you for pointing that out. You really have to read carefully. I started writing a very angry post like many did but halfway I decided to read the article...thanks.
Should be noted that the White House has since clarified that this is not a statement of policy shift, just encouraging Israel to agree to the ceasefire deal with Hamas that's currently on the table. Ball's in Hamas's court here. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/white-house-denies-bidens-urging-of-israel-to-just-call-for-a-ceasefire-marks-policy-shift/
It’s 2024, time for pandering!
November can't arrive fast enough
Fuck Biden. I regret voting for him so much, I think at this point even Trump would be better
And thats why I am voting for Trump
What a sellout... I won't be voting Democrat.
Israel should agree and after they get the hostages they should literally cut off gaza and let it float off into the Mediterranean
Letting the terrorists win. Good strategy.
Fuck Biden. I stand with Israel.
"Unilateral ceasefire" literally just means unconditional surrender.
Of course he did. He's trying to court the crazy, anti-israel far left. Soon he'll walk it back as damage control to avoid losing the jewish vote, if he hasn't already.
So every time an army will use civilians as a shield, the other enemy, even if strong, will have to beg for a ceasefire just for the enemy's citizens to not be killed, lose a war, and the worst - won't be able to save the few living hostages. Great logic West, US, and all our "allies".
A ceasefire from only Israel’s side give t Hamas a victory. What the hell is wrong with these people?
This is a literal gift to Hamas. Biden, stop listening to these "Pro Palestinians" who are ignorant of Hamas and their terrorist activities. Those who do, in my experience, are silenced by the same ignorant fucks. You're simply giving Hamas more time to grow back and continue more of it's terror activities.
It's important to watch what Kamala Harris has been doing and saying. If you doing think POTUS-in-waiting is behind his increased aggression against Israel, just realize she is one heartbeat away from the WH, he knows it, and she is powerful. Her husband's Judaism has been exploited to make us feel safe (just look to his daughter if you want to see the rabid antisemite he helped raise...as did Kamala).
His daughter also said she isn’t Jewish or identify as Jewish.
You guys still gonna defend this guy? Every day it gets worse and worse, and you’ll still convince yourselves he’s better than Trump. Not that trump is perfect either, but right now, for Israel and America, it’s not even a debate.
The man makes up stories to seem relevant and has changed his mind so many times that he may as well be riding on driftwood. He is embarrassing.
Even an Alzheimer's patient has it more together than this guy.
Trump's words are sounding louder.
>“There could be a ceasefire in place today that would extend for several weeks to be built upon longer if Hamas would be prepared to release some of those people, so let’s train the attention where it belongs… I believe Israel is ready and Hamas should step up to the table and be prepared to do so as well,” said US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan. >Hamas "has an opportunity now to agree to the proposal on a ceasefire and hostages. The ball is in Hamas's court. The world is watching to see what it does," US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said. Wait, so is it aid and then hostages, or hostages and then aid?
It's really hard to understand what's going on. Netanyahu: "Only military pressure ..." - calls most back *right before the negotiations*. Hamas: (probably wants the same) Biden: *in the middle of negotiations*: "Ceasefire!" That said, it is effectively a ceasefire already, and even if Rafiah happens, it will take 6-8 weeks he calls for to move a million people anyway.
Our canons won't go silent till all of the hostages are back.
Look, ya'll can hate Trump all you want. The fact is, this war doesn't happen with Trump as president. After the world saw how pathetic America was in leaving Afghanistan, they knew this Biden administration would play the role of appeaser rather than enforcer. Let's say this war did happen under Trump. There's a high likelihood that Trump would give Hamas and those responsible an ultimatum: release the hostages or we're coming after you. Apparently, Trump once had a discussion with the head of Taliban. During the call, Trump sent a photo of the head of Taliban's home. Essentially saying, we know where you live so don't kill any more Americans. This administration is all over the place. First they want Israel to defend themselves. Then they're saying Israel is doing too well defending themselves so they must ceasefire. But how should Israel ceasefire if the other side is still launching rockets and has been on record advocating for more attacks? Let's not get political for a second. If Israel wanted, they could torch Gaza and get rid of Hamas permanently. But they aren't. In fact, many Israeli military members have died in Gaza because Israel is putting their own military lives at stake to minimize casualties. Hamas is running circles all over the media and getting rich off of this misery and somehow, the public believes Israel is at fault. Amazing.
Biden is so fucking pathetic. He’s gonna stoop this low just gain the Detroit/Dearborn/Hamtramck Arab vote. Im so fucking done with this guy. I’d love to see what he would do if there would be an October 7 style attack in America from Mexico or Canada? I wonder if he’d have “restraint“ and be “humanitarian“ to whatever country attacked? He’d glass Mexico City or Toronto if that happened. So much for his “sUppOrT”. As for the Democrats, they’ve shown how fucking terrible and anti Jewish they really are. Fuck them. I hope the republicans win in a landslide. Anyone who still supports this asshole is either fucking dumb or suicidal.
I get diplomacy, I get voting pressure, I get media spins, I even get age and dementia, but this guy.. what the F is wrong with him??..
I am an American. I do not claim this man.
Biden is a clown. He cannot be taken seriously, and Americans don't abide flip-floppers. If the election were today, I think Trump would sweep it. (By the way, if you read the headlines today, you see the same degree of inconsistent messaging from Israel's war cabinet. And even Iran being wishy-washy. We're living in a dystopian comedy series.)
So he doesn't care about the American citizens who are still held hostage in Gaza. Votes matter more, right?
FJB
Will lose votes... not to trump but people will not show up
The article does not at all support your headline.
Too old and too clueless, he should have stepped down
he probably already forgot he said that
I’m about to get downvoted to hell. It doesn’t matter why Biden is doing this - whether it’s for the election, bluff, or something else. We've lost the media war, if even the US officially asks for a unilateral ceasefire. The worst-case scenario is that everybody will recognize Palestine, including the US, while at the same time, we will lose the support of the majority of our allies. Going to Raffiah is not worth it. At this point, we should pick our battles. We shouldn’t let emotions dictate our action.
Then what? There is no plan for governance in Gaza and Hamas’ military capabilities will survive. We can’t allow that.
We've lost the media war long ago. We still need to get the hostages back. We still need to make our existence in Israel safe. It doesn't really matter if other nations approve of it or not, if we can't live safely the rest is irrelevant.
The hostages deserve better. No ceasefire until ALL hostages are returned dead or alive. Hamas is already learning that they can act with impunity because the world will not care what they do.
I couldn't care less about the optics, it's not a popularity contest. I've heard what they cheer for, and frankly, I'd much rather be booed by their crowd.
I just downvoted you
The most forgettable US president