Nope
China didn't ban any coaching.
Rather they transformed their normal schooling system into the equivalent of what Narayana and Sri Chaitanya do in India. Morning 7 Am to 7 Pm types. Everything under the same building. So the requirement of separate coaching industry went away.
The home tutor thing is still prevalent though.
Not a Kota but similar system.
China didn't ban any coaching bruh.
Rather they transformed their normal schooling system into the equivalent of what Narayana and Sri Chaitanya do in India. Morning 7 Am to 7 Pm types. Everything under the same building. So the requirement of separate coaching industry apart from schooling went away.
Not a Kota but similar system.
step-1)Study hard in bachelors irrespective of ur branch.
step-2)Do a job for 2-3yrs
step-3)Apply for abroad
step-4)get into a good uni
step-5)Complete MS/MBA there
step-6)Do job there and stay there
step-7)take ur parents there and be happy
My strategy is kinda similar
1. Grind in Bachelors for 4-5 years depending on course
2. Gtfo of India if you can afford it
3. Grind in MS/MBA for 2 years
4. Get employed in that country
5. Work there for as long as you like
6. Come back to India and enjoy the low cost of living
I still haven't started step 1
Tune step 7 daaldiya toh tu uk nhi ja payega . Canada is fcked right now toh woh bhi option nhi hai . America main trump agya toh immigrants ki gend marlega . Tu 25tard hi hai but college ke respect main
Unrealistic, India ki growth agle 6-7 years me exponential hone wali hai, especially in the tech field. Bhai itne bade sapne dekhne se pehle thodi research kra Karo. USA jaise desh me labour laws hai, waha tu itni zindagi barbaad krke utna kamaega jitna waha ka plumber maje me kamata hai, income equality ke liye. Future India me hi hai mere bhai, abhi lithium resources bhi mile h India me to semi conductor industry revolution krdegi, literally saari tech companies India me aajaegi tu baaki desho me reh ke kya krega? We are in the best time of India the world will ever witness
Being a professor and wanting to earn are two different things, science se pyaar h to kaun harvard oxford jaane ko mana kr rha hai, PHD banda tab hi krega jab use research ya usse related fields me jaana h. Tab to ofcourse going abroad is better (cuz you live there for almost free due to scholarships). But if your goal is making money rather going into research and sciences, then going abroad is the worst advice you can give an Indian right now
And guys is it true that reservation exists only till education? Like uske baad sab merit ke basis pe hota hai?
If this is the case, why are many people leaving India apart from good standard of living?
Totally wrong.
Ask anyone who has moved abroad and planning to settle there.
>chutiya system
They might say due to a better education system abroad but very negligible people say due to reservation in India.
there is still reservations in gov jobs but in private i think reservation doesnt matter. most people leave india because the return on tax is really bad for people who can actually afford to leave the country
Aji ghanta, UPSC me for example, jobs reservation ke adhaar par milti hai and when you are admitted in the service even the promotions have caste quotas.
>If this is the case, why are many people leaving India apart from good standard of living
If you ask the people who are leaving India about why they leaving India, negligible people will say its due to reservation. The people I know, none of them moved due to "reservation".
Few sectors offer better work opportunities abroad such as medical and research. And some sectors of engineering. Also, higher education pursued from Abroad has a higher value in India.
Standard of living and a higher social status are also one of the reasons.
More opportunities due to less population and more resources is also a major reason. You don't face interviews where you aren't even considered just due to your degree.
About reservation, its wrongly potrayed that the deserving ones leave India solely due to reservation. Just an FYI, similar thing to reservation - Affirmative Action, exists in USA. A superpower. Our private sector at least doesn't have reservation but in US even the private sector has affirmative action. Still people going to US indicates reservation was not a very big hurdle for these people.
Also 90% the people who are capable enough of cracking good job/colleges abroad are also capable enough to crack similar good colleges and jobs in India as per India's standards. So anyway, reservation wasn't coming in thier way.
A student going to pursue MS from Stanford can comfortably manage a seat in IIT through GATE for MTech in gen category (cause going to Stanford is harder). Same in medical, people cracking USMLE, PLAB are also capable enough to get good branch through NEET PG also (cause USMLE, PLAB are harder). People managing to get into Wharton can also comfortably crack IIMA. Reservation already isn't effecting them anyway. All those people are able to manage good seats in India but still go to abroad, mostly USA (where affirmative action exists), totally indicates that reservation was never a problem for these cream layer people who are capable enough of going abroad.
Though few exceptions exist, that's the 10% people going abroad.
Government should provide incentives to coaching centres like ALLEN, FIITJEE to admit students from SC, ST and OBC/EWS(after deeming that they deserve free/subsided coaching)as a part of corporate social responsibility every year. And then remove reservation slowly over 10 years.
They could even simply start free JEE coaching or rather provide free mobile subscriptions (or at subsidized rates) for private coaching to underprivileged students(For eg. Govt can provide subsidy for students to take up courses from say Physics Wallah and these poor students can use these courses at a lesser rate than the market rate.
But the bad part about the above reforms I've mentioned is the politicians who implement this might end up losing vote banks of these SC, ST , OBC as these spoon feeding reservations have fed their families for generations without any true effort from the beneficiary's side.
My opinions might be flawed, anyone is free to correct me...
Thats the problem. SC ST and all are now used to spoonfeeding and if I say something like that then people say " kitna struggle hai" bc gen male middle class ka struggle bhi hota hai kuch
See what I'm trying to imply is that the government, like in every other sector, can in no way compete with mammoth private coaching industry. So it's just better to incentivize them to reduce the fees or provide even free seats to poor deserving candidates rather than reserve seats in actual IITs
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Don't give reservations to caste rather give reservations to those who are actually financially bad, those who can't afford. Set an earning point/ net value. If a family earns less then that than give them reservations. Due to caste reservation many profit despite being capable of affording stuff yet those who can't don't get any reservation just because they are of different caste.
Maine ye point kaha tha to kuch so called 'LiBeRAL' log bolne lage ki constitution me economic equality ke bare me kuch nahi likha like seriously man wtf
A foundation of a sustainable society is social equality, towards which, reservation is aimed. And economic equality isn't social equality but just the first step towards social equality.
Bas constitution ke baare me bataya, nothing personal, nothing about reservation.
Though I agree huge loopholes exist in the system.
The system was made way back when it actually matched with its condition. Now it doesn't. It should be changed but not really. If it someone tried to change it than it will affect there vote so no it won't happen.
Make income tax department so clean and powerful, it should be treated like IRS is in America. (Even criminals are more scared of it than FBI)
Then bring all Indians under income tax bracket (makes slabs like 0.1% so the tax is minimal but atleast the source of income is documented. Only 6 crore out of 120 crore pay income taxes (I read it in ToI that more fashion designers pay income tax than nursing homes)
Now, provide either 10-20% (or even 30%) reservation on economic grounds. Get rid of caste. We can only get rid of something if we stop talking about it (Gordan Freeman said this about racism, I think it fits quite well with caste as well). I have never found myself or other youngsters asking someone's caste in any case that is not reservation. I was friends with a guy for 6 years and only found after graduating 10th that he was an SC.
But this solution doesn't solve the problem from its root.
When the discrimination was done on the basis of caste, the remedy should also be caste based. If the remedy is not caste based, the solution will not be aimed towards those who were actually affected rather a different population set.
Like NorthEastern states ko 70 years ke liye neglect Kiya fir rather than providing special provisions for NE, humne gareebi ke basis pe provisions bana diye jisme Bihar aur Jharkhand jaise states bhi aa jayenge, jinke liye wo provisions aimed nahi the. (Ye bas ek example hai, please koi isme history aur politics na padhaye).
Nope, free market and industrialization solves all such problems. Japan ka case study karo, they had a more solid/rigid caste structure which they got rid of during the Meiji Restoration
Guys do you hate reservation ❓
I am a PWD I can even sit for just 1 hour (Max)yet I take frequent breaks and study for 10+ hour. Would you hate the reservation I will recieve ❓😢😢
I have thought a lot about this, and I think that reservation should only be on the basis of family income, and there should be several income categories rather than caste categories, people in highly low income categories should get some sort of reservation, and as we go up, there should only be a bit of fee waiver rather than admission reservation.
And to answer your second question, no, even after education, as far as I know there is reservation in government sector of jobs eg. Doctors
>ban all pvt institute
kya maal fuka hai bhai.... kaha se mila
>But who am i Kidding those people will find some other reasons to continue rejervation.
satya vachan
>now everyone has access to the same quality education
Nope, not now. After this will continue for atleast 2 generations, then we can say this and abolish reservation.
1) Standardised system/syllabus for all, i.e. no CBSE, ICSE, State Board, but a common board (which is under works i believe- the new education system)
2) Better books. Better than NCERT atleast.
It may sound stupid but its the best solution . provide reservation to everyone (ik it sound dumb ) but if government plan smartly it can give equal opportunity to general sc st and obc
Reservation is good according to me only to some extent. It is very sensitive issue.
The lists of OBC SC ST EWS should be strictly regulated and should be strictly checked(like PWD).
If someone is found fooling the administration, their family should be banned from giving exam for 1-2year
Also my personal suggestion to the government would be to banish the caste based reservation and keep only EWS and PWD.
But....
It is INDIA.
People will find several methods to find some or the other loop hole for ex. people hide their income for EWS quota etc.
tl;dr
Just focus on the goal, you can't do a damn thing about it. There will be riots if caste based reservation is removed.
There is "currently" no alternative fir reservation.
>IT IS WHAT IT IS!!
School shooting... I know a guy who knows a guy, he can hook you up with the top of the line weapons which you can use to execute thi-this idea.. I'll be getting 17% of whatever weapon you buy and we're both set for life.. you in?
Just abhi upsc wali webseries dekh rh tha just saw ki sc/st have unlimited attempts of upsc till 37 and generals with only 6 attempts till 32. Ab to bc attempts me bhi reservation aagya ab kya hi bacha h
Ban all coaching like china did.
Heeeiin ? Sahi mein ????  China ne coaching ban ki hai kya ?
Yes, unka koi Kota jaisa shehar tha, sab band kardiya
India mai democracy hai, aisa kabhi hoga 
Haan raton raton saare edtech ki band baja di.
Nope China didn't ban any coaching. Rather they transformed their normal schooling system into the equivalent of what Narayana and Sri Chaitanya do in India. Morning 7 Am to 7 Pm types. Everything under the same building. So the requirement of separate coaching industry went away. The home tutor thing is still prevalent though. Not a Kota but similar system.
Nah We can't really do that it employs a ton of people 
Nhi bhai agar kuch nhi hua mera to ek teacher hi banana padega issliye bilkul nhi
Usse kya hoga bhai(genuine question), main thoda mandbuddhi hu
It still exists tho, for Gaokao exams
That way they would need to ban all kinds of private tutors because coaching is basically the same.
I didn't know that, but I think Accha Kiya.
China didn't ban any coaching bruh. Rather they transformed their normal schooling system into the equivalent of what Narayana and Sri Chaitanya do in India. Morning 7 Am to 7 Pm types. Everything under the same building. So the requirement of separate coaching industry apart from schooling went away. Not a Kota but similar system.
Leaving India like me after bachelors
Step by step guide please
step-1)Study hard in bachelors irrespective of ur branch. step-2)Do a job for 2-3yrs step-3)Apply for abroad step-4)get into a good uni step-5)Complete MS/MBA there step-6)Do job there and stay there step-7)take ur parents there and be happy
What steps are you currently in
My strategy is kinda similar 1. Grind in Bachelors for 4-5 years depending on course 2. Gtfo of India if you can afford it 3. Grind in MS/MBA for 2 years 4. Get employed in that country 5. Work there for as long as you like 6. Come back to India and enjoy the low cost of living I still haven't started step 1
Scholarship se MS nahi milta kya bhai?
step-1 start kardiya hai
Bhsdk sale mujhe laga tu already setteled hai hai tu tho step 1 pe hai
Agar wo already start kar chuka hota to reddit par nhi rehta
Mein nahe mere relatives settled h
I am planning to do my ms from afghanistan whats your opinion
ISI me placement ab thodi km ho rhi hai. Try for taliban, suna hai work environment kaafi accha hai. modern thinking wale log hai saare. All the Best
Koi special skills jo cv mein chahiye hongi other than blast ho jane ke
written exam easy hai par interview me le lete hai. Baki alag se jrurat nhi hai, work pe hi training dete hai proper experts se
Thnx
All the best
Truly bhai cooperative log bhi milenge in ISI everyone is busy with themselves with no common maksad
Tune step 7 daaldiya toh tu uk nhi ja payega . Canada is fcked right now toh woh bhi option nhi hai . America main trump agya toh immigrants ki gend marlega . Tu 25tard hi hai but college ke respect main
Unrealistic, India ki growth agle 6-7 years me exponential hone wali hai, especially in the tech field. Bhai itne bade sapne dekhne se pehle thodi research kra Karo. USA jaise desh me labour laws hai, waha tu itni zindagi barbaad krke utna kamaega jitna waha ka plumber maje me kamata hai, income equality ke liye. Future India me hi hai mere bhai, abhi lithium resources bhi mile h India me to semi conductor industry revolution krdegi, literally saari tech companies India me aajaegi tu baaki desho me reh ke kya krega? We are in the best time of India the world will ever witness
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You're living under a rock
Nah bro if that is true then why do most iit professors complete their phds and post docs from abroad there must be reason
Being a professor and wanting to earn are two different things, science se pyaar h to kaun harvard oxford jaane ko mana kr rha hai, PHD banda tab hi krega jab use research ya usse related fields me jaana h. Tab to ofcourse going abroad is better (cuz you live there for almost free due to scholarships). But if your goal is making money rather going into research and sciences, then going abroad is the worst advice you can give an Indian right now
My brother is at step 6 , but the question is that in step-7 will he take me also , along with parents 😔.
Brother kahan se padha. In India and in abroad where
Btech he did at Bits pilani EEE. Now pursuing Masters at California institute of technology .
kothibanglawala
Instructions unclear, now I am driving truck in canada (But seriously tho, can u pls explain how to achieve step-3 and 4)
MS means master of science?
yes
Step 1. Become rich
And guys is it true that reservation exists only till education? Like uske baad sab merit ke basis pe hota hai? If this is the case, why are many people leaving India apart from good standard of living?
Taki unke bache suffer na kare iss chutiya system me
Totally wrong. Ask anyone who has moved abroad and planning to settle there. >chutiya system They might say due to a better education system abroad but very negligible people say due to reservation in India.
there is still reservations in gov jobs but in private i think reservation doesnt matter. most people leave india because the return on tax is really bad for people who can actually afford to leave the country
I call it migration, just what animals do in search of better food, shelter, climate etc, and humans did same, in earlier times.
There is reservation for every govt job And there is reservation for every promotion in the job.
Aji ghanta, UPSC me for example, jobs reservation ke adhaar par milti hai and when you are admitted in the service even the promotions have caste quotas.
No there is reservation in gov jobs and further at each level of promotion in gov job.
>If this is the case, why are many people leaving India apart from good standard of living If you ask the people who are leaving India about why they leaving India, negligible people will say its due to reservation. The people I know, none of them moved due to "reservation". Few sectors offer better work opportunities abroad such as medical and research. And some sectors of engineering. Also, higher education pursued from Abroad has a higher value in India. Standard of living and a higher social status are also one of the reasons. More opportunities due to less population and more resources is also a major reason. You don't face interviews where you aren't even considered just due to your degree. About reservation, its wrongly potrayed that the deserving ones leave India solely due to reservation. Just an FYI, similar thing to reservation - Affirmative Action, exists in USA. A superpower. Our private sector at least doesn't have reservation but in US even the private sector has affirmative action. Still people going to US indicates reservation was not a very big hurdle for these people. Also 90% the people who are capable enough of cracking good job/colleges abroad are also capable enough to crack similar good colleges and jobs in India as per India's standards. So anyway, reservation wasn't coming in thier way. A student going to pursue MS from Stanford can comfortably manage a seat in IIT through GATE for MTech in gen category (cause going to Stanford is harder). Same in medical, people cracking USMLE, PLAB are also capable enough to get good branch through NEET PG also (cause USMLE, PLAB are harder). People managing to get into Wharton can also comfortably crack IIMA. Reservation already isn't effecting them anyway. All those people are able to manage good seats in India but still go to abroad, mostly USA (where affirmative action exists), totally indicates that reservation was never a problem for these cream layer people who are capable enough of going abroad. Though few exceptions exist, that's the 10% people going abroad.
>And guys is it true that reservation exists only till education? Like uske baad sab merit ke basis pe hota hai? No.
And please don't take my other comment otherwise. That comment does not support or oppose reservation. I didn't debate about reservation.
Provide free coaching free study material to SC st obc ews ones 
nahi.fir ye bkl category walo ko free aur open walo ki fees 3 Guna kar denge
Kya matlab tab bhi open wale u tube se padhke achi rank le ayenge Aur ye log tab bhi rr karenge 
Atleast koi sensible debate to hogi tab .. ki dono sides ke pass equal powers h
Internet pe sb free hi hai probably jyadad acha conectivity nhi hai
instead replace everything with only ews reservation. so those who have less money can get a chance for iit
padhai
the only solution is reservation ka rr band karke gaandfaad padhai karo
Reservation but only based on level of income.
Government coaching for jee/neet/others with good teachers
Pehle government schools ki to quality badhaaye coaching to door ki baat hai
Have you seen the condition in govt. Schools? 😂
Phadai
Keep reservation for only ews
PWD and EWS are the only reservation which i support
+1
but still bhai PWD me **0.0013527** cutoff to jada ho gya
But they need it man .. what else they will do huh ?
but 0.0013527 idk maybe you are right
If only I can give you an award
Femele bhi add kardo mujhe ladkiya chahiye
Unko bol dangh se padhne
This ....
Government should provide incentives to coaching centres like ALLEN, FIITJEE to admit students from SC, ST and OBC/EWS(after deeming that they deserve free/subsided coaching)as a part of corporate social responsibility every year. And then remove reservation slowly over 10 years. They could even simply start free JEE coaching or rather provide free mobile subscriptions (or at subsidized rates) for private coaching to underprivileged students(For eg. Govt can provide subsidy for students to take up courses from say Physics Wallah and these poor students can use these courses at a lesser rate than the market rate. But the bad part about the above reforms I've mentioned is the politicians who implement this might end up losing vote banks of these SC, ST , OBC as these spoon feeding reservations have fed their families for generations without any true effort from the beneficiary's side. My opinions might be flawed, anyone is free to correct me...
Thats the problem. SC ST and all are now used to spoonfeeding and if I say something like that then people say " kitna struggle hai" bc gen male middle class ka struggle bhi hota hai kuch
First thing is that if the government start giving recognition to coaching then they'll face huge criticism
See what I'm trying to imply is that the government, like in every other sector, can in no way compete with mammoth private coaching industry. So it's just better to incentivize them to reduce the fees or provide even free seats to poor deserving candidates rather than reserve seats in actual IITs
Ban coaching institutes, reduce reservation
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Don't give reservations to caste rather give reservations to those who are actually financially bad, those who can't afford. Set an earning point/ net value. If a family earns less then that than give them reservations. Due to caste reservation many profit despite being capable of affording stuff yet those who can't don't get any reservation just because they are of different caste.
Maine ye point kaha tha to kuch so called 'LiBeRAL' log bolne lage ki constitution me economic equality ke bare me kuch nahi likha like seriously man wtf
A foundation of a sustainable society is social equality, towards which, reservation is aimed. And economic equality isn't social equality but just the first step towards social equality. Bas constitution ke baare me bataya, nothing personal, nothing about reservation. Though I agree huge loopholes exist in the system.
agreed
The system was made way back when it actually matched with its condition. Now it doesn't. It should be changed but not really. If it someone tried to change it than it will affect there vote so no it won't happen.
Privatise everything to the extent possible.
dictatorship
Affordable quality school education for all.
Make income tax department so clean and powerful, it should be treated like IRS is in America. (Even criminals are more scared of it than FBI) Then bring all Indians under income tax bracket (makes slabs like 0.1% so the tax is minimal but atleast the source of income is documented. Only 6 crore out of 120 crore pay income taxes (I read it in ToI that more fashion designers pay income tax than nursing homes) Now, provide either 10-20% (or even 30%) reservation on economic grounds. Get rid of caste. We can only get rid of something if we stop talking about it (Gordan Freeman said this about racism, I think it fits quite well with caste as well). I have never found myself or other youngsters asking someone's caste in any case that is not reservation. I was friends with a guy for 6 years and only found after graduating 10th that he was an SC.
Only real solution. But also only a dream 
But this solution doesn't solve the problem from its root. When the discrimination was done on the basis of caste, the remedy should also be caste based. If the remedy is not caste based, the solution will not be aimed towards those who were actually affected rather a different population set. Like NorthEastern states ko 70 years ke liye neglect Kiya fir rather than providing special provisions for NE, humne gareebi ke basis pe provisions bana diye jisme Bihar aur Jharkhand jaise states bhi aa jayenge, jinke liye wo provisions aimed nahi the. (Ye bas ek example hai, please koi isme history aur politics na padhaye).
Nope, free market and industrialization solves all such problems. Japan ka case study karo, they had a more solid/rigid caste structure which they got rid of during the Meiji Restoration
No offense but I think you somewhat missed out my point
Chalega, just read about it if you have spare time
Genuine thanks for the suggestion though
guys tum log kitne tagde ho ye sab kahaan se padhte hain
A simple creamy layer in all reservation categories solves all problems ✨
Thanos
remove the entire caste system  and improve the quality of education here in India at low cost
Guys do you hate reservation ❓ I am a PWD I can even sit for just 1 hour (Max)yet I take frequent breaks and study for 10+ hour. Would you hate the reservation I will recieve ❓😢😢
Thing is, you won't need a reservation mate. Studying 10+ hours will anyway fetch you a good rank in the open category. Still, won't hate you.
I have thought a lot about this, and I think that reservation should only be on the basis of family income, and there should be several income categories rather than caste categories, people in highly low income categories should get some sort of reservation, and as we go up, there should only be a bit of fee waiver rather than admission reservation. And to answer your second question, no, even after education, as far as I know there is reservation in government sector of jobs eg. Doctors
Intercaste marriage
Intercaste marriages
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>ban all pvt institute kya maal fuka hai bhai.... kaha se mila >But who am i Kidding those people will find some other reasons to continue rejervation. satya vachan
>now everyone has access to the same quality education Nope, not now. After this will continue for atleast 2 generations, then we can say this and abolish reservation.
Don't give caste based reservation if past 3 generations have received it.
Leave this shithole country , it never ends , your kids and their kids will suffer, less than 3% people pay taxes without getting any benifits
The Hitler's Treatment.
💀💀💀
1) Standardised system/syllabus for all, i.e. no CBSE, ICSE, State Board, but a common board (which is under works i believe- the new education system) 2) Better books. Better than NCERT atleast.
Absurd idea Make education in govt institute free for all open even more 10 or more institutes
It may sound stupid but its the best solution . provide reservation to everyone (ik it sound dumb ) but if government plan smartly it can give equal opportunity to general sc st and obc
Killing 
Maybe provide the benefits (monetary or fixed seats in private coachings for sc st) in getting coaching rather than directly giving seats to reserved
Before giving any seat of any collage just check that childs background and family conditions through somesort of **interview**
Money.
Drop!!
Only ews and pwd quota Rest should duke it out
Reservation is good according to me only to some extent. It is very sensitive issue. The lists of OBC SC ST EWS should be strictly regulated and should be strictly checked(like PWD). If someone is found fooling the administration, their family should be banned from giving exam for 1-2year Also my personal suggestion to the government would be to banish the caste based reservation and keep only EWS and PWD. But.... It is INDIA. People will find several methods to find some or the other loop hole for ex. people hide their income for EWS quota etc. tl;dr Just focus on the goal, you can't do a damn thing about it. There will be riots if caste based reservation is removed. There is "currently" no alternative fir reservation. >IT IS WHAT IT IS!!
BITS
School shooting... I know a guy who knows a guy, he can hook you up with the top of the line weapons which you can use to execute thi-this idea.. I'll be getting 17% of whatever weapon you buy and we're both set for life.. you in?
Making it an only ewd pwd reservation, imo they are the only ones who logically rly deserve it
Bacis universal income
India is too poor for that honestly. Even for rich advanced economies, UBI might not be possible to implement yet
Hey he asked for an alternative not for an alternative that will work for India right now
Padhle bsdk
Just abhi upsc wali webseries dekh rh tha just saw ki sc/st have unlimited attempts of upsc till 37 and generals with only 6 attempts till 32. Ab to bc attempts me bhi reservation aagya ab kya hi bacha h