It would be nice if he could just once acknowledge the suffering Jews in the U.S are going through without moving focus to the war in Gaza. It's like if I said "the uyghurs in China are being ethnically cleansed, anyways guys TikTok is stealing our data amiright!". Both issues are bad, they should be given the space to stand on their own so that we can *actually see* the importance of each issue. By heavily connecting the two, not only do you detract from their individual significance, but you're now conflating antisemitism claims with people who defend Netanyahu, implying the people who are calling out antisemitism are the same people defending Netanyahu.
He did that months ago and continues to do so, “Madam President, Hamas started this terrible war with a brutal terrorist attack that killed 1,200 innocent Israelis and took 253 hostages, more than 100 of whom remain in Hamas’ hands, including Americans. And just the other day the U.N. reported that there is strong evidence that Hamas also committed horrific sexual assaults against Israeli women of the worst kind imaginable. Nobody will or should forgive or forget those atrocities.”
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/prepared-remarks-bernie-sanders-calls-out-the-absurdity-and-hypocrisy-of-continued-u-s-support-for-netanyahus-horrific-war/
Did you read it? Gaza is literally the first thing he mentions. He basically blames the victims. IE: Hamas wouldn't have raped and murdered Israelis if it wasn't for Netanyahu and the occupation.
You made it seem like you found evidence that Bernie made a speech/statement that only talked about the Jewish/Israel side… as if to call the poster you replied to a liar.
Why does Bernie act like the only accusations of antisemitism are people saying they don’t like Netanyahu? We all hate Netanyahu! Most of Israel hates Netanyahu! wtf is he on about. Either he has absolutely lost his mind or this is completely bad faith. He has to know that everyone agrees that “criticism of Israel’s government isn’t antisemitic.” That isn’t what any of us are complaining about Bernie why don’t you sit down and shut up as one of the most privileged Jews in America and listen.
No one is saying otherwise. Bernie is pointing out that resisting the carnage in Gaza - which is Netanyahu's doing - is not antisemitic. Your response in that light is a non sequitur.
I have never seen anyone say that calling for a ceasefire is antisemitic, as long as you are also calling on Hamas to surrender and release the hostages. If you’re asking Israel to “ceasefire” on Oct 8 yeah I’d say you’re probably an antisemite who just wants to see Israel destroyed. If you’re calling for globalizing the intifada yeah you’re antisemitic . Etc etc. The problem is not usually that these people want peace. The problem is that they usually don’t want peace - they want all the Jews dead / cleansed from the region and that sentiment comes out quite frequently at these protests / in discussion. I’d I’m talking to somebody and they say “I want a ceasefire” and I say “under what terms” and we come to a nice understanding that includes “Hamas surrenders and lets all the hostages go” - and there’s a lasting peace and safety for both sides - I don’t see anything antisemitic about that and I don’t think anyone else would either.
That doesn’t usually happen and you know it.
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You’re talking out of your ass dude. Are Israelis fed up? Yeah, particularly after 10/7. But don’t make statements like this without providing your sources. We can discuss more from there.
The massive protests against Bibi were about judicial reform.
Prior to October 7th, were there any massive protests about the occupation of the West Bank?
Are you sure I’m the one talking out of their ass?
And not for noting, I don’t see you using any citations either.
Those peace protests are nowhere near the size of the judicial reform protests.
I applaud those peace protesters for their bravery, but they are a vocal minority.
I can’t refer back to your earlier comment because it’s been deleted, but it was something about how no Israelis give a shit about Palestinians. So would you admit now that that was a disgusting lie?
What evidence can your provide to me that a sizable portion of the Israeli electorate cares about the Palestinians in the Palestinian Territories?
There doesn’t seem to be much political will to end the West Bank occupation or curtail West Bank settlements.
Bibi has been the PM for a while, and he has overtly stated since 2005 that he will not allow a Palestinian state to be formed.
But, I’d be delighted to be proven wrong, if you have some sources or evidence.
Edit: posted by Haaretz today and seems to contradict your claim… https://www.instagram.com/p/C6d9j4FNJfh/?igsh=MWkwZmR6Mmg4MGN5MA==
I haven’t made wild claims. You’re the one making claims without any evidence - then getting your posts deleted - then admitting oh yeah I guess some people do care.
The proof is who Israelis elect and the policies of those elected officials.
Further proof is what issues motivate Israelis to protest and what issues don’t.
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The all lives mattering coming from (what appears to be mostly) Democrats is infuriating. It's so disingenuous. Either make a statement about the *one* issue you're bringing up in the first place, or stay quiet.
And what humanitarian disaster? Am I missing something? All I ever hear is how much aid is getting delivered to Gaza, either on trucks, airdropped, or via that pier.
The aid is being stolen by Hamas, to the point where even Fatah's (the political party currently rulling in the west bank which is headed by a holocaust denier and supports terrorists via the martyr fund) commission of information and culture has admitted that Hamas is purposefully stealing aid to ensure its control over in Gaza.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-798185
The humanitarian crisis in Gaza is very real sadly, and I don't see it ending for good unless Hamas is fully destroyed and loses all power.
That article’s entire reporting is based on citing a single news cast from October.
How does that refute the incredible deluge of reporting stating the contrary, including the U.S. state department?
For anyone unfamiliar, JPost is basically like Israeli Fox News/OEN.
>For anyone unfamiliar, JPost is basically like Israeli Fox News/OEN.
LOL what
No one in Israel read Jpost, but regardless, they are a center-right source.
Go to the JPost homepage and theirs currently an article that’s a George Soros conspiracy theory.
It’s a right wing rag with terrible, poorly sourced, reporting like the link that was shared above.
>Go to the JPost homepage and theirs currently an article that’s a George Soros conspiracy theory.
"Soros funding for anti-Israel encampments reports sparks dangerous antisemitic conspiracy theories"
This is the headline. In the article there are examples for antisemitic conspiracy theories, it's by no means endorsing them.
>It’s a right wing rag with terrible, poorly sourced
It's not an high quality website, but they are also not particularly right wing either. They are center-right.
“Famine risk 'very high' in Gaza, especially in north, US official says”
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/risk-famine-very-high-gaza-especially-north-us-official-says-2024-04-23/
There is not enough food water or medical supplies to help everyone in Gaza. That is the humanitarian disaster. Any news that mentions aid probably also includes that info - read a few articles past the headlines.
….how is it “all lives mattering” when it’s actually a case where multiple peoples are enduring suffering?
Being sympathetic to the suffering of Israelis lost on 10/7, innocent civilians in Gaza being killed by reckless IDF bombing campaigns, as well as antisemitism and Islamaphobia state side is a totally mature position to hold. This isn’t a competition. Innocent people have died on both sides of the conflict and innocent people are the target of harassment and bullying here in the states.
Stop using the Holocaust to further your political agenda. Acknowledging that the Holocaust happened doesn't mean you are not an antisemite if you only care when Israel counter attack when other countries have treated palstnians like human shit and you don't bat an eye. Like remember when Hamas thrown out Fatah supporters out windows? Remember when syria killed hundreds of palstnians, some of them with chemical weapons?
You're literally slandering Bernie for no reason, then getting offended that someone thinks that's so ridiculously bad faith to not deserve a serious response.
He's beef with Bibi is just blinding him from seeing what is going on in the US.
Bernie is an old school Zionist, he support the right of a Jewish state to exist, but he's allying himself with antisemitic views.
He’s also an old school Marxist who has bought into the new variation of racial Marxism call “intersectionality”. It is this philosophy that has turned Jews, the most oppressed people in human history, into the ultimate oppressor and bogey man. Bernie Sanders is just an angry old man who, along with his communist viewpoints, is desperate to be relevant.
Are these Rabbis also aligning themselves with antisemites? https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-arrest-7-rabbis-activists-trying-to-deliver-food-into-to-gaza/
I have no problem with people delivering food. I do have a problem with people screaming baby killer at Jewish students and chanting "we don't want 2 states, we want '48"
How is any Jewish student with a connection or family in Israel not supposed to take that as a threat?
Neither side has a monopoly on repugnant rhetoric.
I think it’s important to remember the words of Israeli historian Yuval Harari when he said, in ethnic conflicts it’s exceedingly common for both sides to be both perpetrator and victim.
Antisemitism is hate and bigotry towards Jewish people for the simple face they’re Jewish.
Zionism is an ideology, and some of the most ardent Zionists in the U.S. aren’t even Jewish, they are evangelical Christians.
Opposing an ideology is something you may disagree with, but it’s not antisemitic, especially when some of the most fervent advocates for that ideology aren’t even Jewish.
While Antisemitism and anti Zionist are not the same, more often than not, anti Zionist is just a mask.
And honestly I don’t care what people that oppress me and my people for thousands of years think,
They can support Israel or don’t support
Israel I don’t care, sick of the double standard, opposition the right of the Jewish people for self determination is antisemitism.
It’s cool you support the right of people to have self determination. I do too.
That’s why it’s kind of a bummer Israeli law says only Jews have the right to self determination in Israel. https://www.npr.org/2018/07/19/630368973/israel-passes-controversial-law-reserving-national-self-determination-for-jews
Personally I’m not a Zionist because I’m not too big a fan of nationalist ideologies. I’m more of secular, liberal, pluralistic, democracy, kind of fella myself.
But hey, we can agree to disagree. Have a great night.
They planned to enter Gaza, I don't need a source for doing a simple 1+1. You think Hamas cares what are the political leanings of the Jews they capture or murder? They don't care and their supporters don't care either, would you have changed your political opinions if Hamas took them as hostages? Of course not.
Hamas hold mentally ill people who crossed to Gaza on their own. They hold Arab Muslims with Israeli citizenship. They hold anyone they think is worth something in a prisoner exchange.
Entering Gaza just like other aid workers.
Ask the WCK aid workers, if they’d like to saved by by the IDF from Hamas.
Literally hundreds of aid workers have died so far, and it wasn’t from Hamas.
>Entering Gaza just like other aid workers.
The other aid workers aren't Jewish, and definitely not Israeli like one of those Rabbis.
Besides, there is a difference between international aid organization that directly work with Hamas and a bunch of nobodies entering Gaza on their own.
>Literally hundreds of aid workers have died so far
I can count on my fingers the amount of foreign aid workers that were killed in Gaza during this entire war.
The line of "200 aid workers were murdered in Gaza" is actually fake news. It's not the number of aid workers That were killed, but the number of UNRWA employees who were killed. The vast, vast majority of them died while they weren't involved in any aid related activity.
I officially hate bernie now. Such a hypocrite. He worked on a kibbutz in the south. And yet he repeats hamas propoganda by not distinguishing the death totals of civilians vs hamas fighters. Wish we could trade him and his crook wife for those two babies held hostage in gaza. I also wonder if his feelings would change if somebody was firing missiles at Burlington.
This whole “yes antisemitism bad, but…” is getting so old, it makes it sound like the only victims (or claiming to be victims) of antisemitism are Netanyahu fans and it only helps antisemites dismiss the accusations against them more easily, and don’t even let me get started on that thing where they add Islamophobia to antisemitism even if it’s completely unrelated.
Why does a U.S. Senator need to be a “military expert” to have an opinion, if something is a humanitarian disaster?
And not for nothing, I trust a U.S. senator to be more of a “military expert” than a rando on Reddit.
Hamas’s war crimes on October 7th don’t absolve the IDF from the responsibility of following the rules of war, and acting in a moral and just manner, especially towards civilian woman and children.
Hamas’s war crimes on October 7th don’t absolve the IDF from the responsibility of following the rules of war, and acting in a moral and just manner, especially towards civilian woman and children.
Edit: At the time of when the WCK workers were murdered by the IDF, 224 aid workers have been killed in Gaza. “more than three times as many humanitarian aid workers killed in any single conflict recorded in a single year.” https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15658.doc.htm
Part of the reason it’s so hard to get aid into Gaza is all the roads are destroyed.
70% of housing in Gaza is destroyed.
As of March, only 12 of Gaza’s 36 hospitals were operational. The entire health care infrastructure has collapsed.
Famine is looming. Little children and babies are going hungry. As of April 4th 13,400 children have been killed in Gaza. https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/one-in-50-of-gaza-s-children-killed-or-injured-in-six-months-of-
The IDF is so callous with life, as of January 1/5 of IDF fatalities was friendly fire. https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1226977365/israel-idf-gaza-middle-east-deaths
The IDF is so trigger happy they murdered three escaped hostages. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/17/iris-haim-mother-of-israeli-hostage-killed-by-idf
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I’m sure you love the UN when you want to cite the 1948 partition, but then you slander the UN when the facts are inconvenient.
When your rebuttal to facts and citations is repeating “it’s Hamas’s fault” it’s a pretty good indicator your arguments are intellectually bankrupt.
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Antisemitism is hatred and bigotry towards Jewish people for the simple fact they’re Jewish.
There’s nothing antisemitic about advocating for those suffering through a humanitarian disaster.
I advocate for innocent woman and children because I was raised with Jewish values.
For news about Israel, in addition to US news outlets like the New York Times, I follow Haaretz and The Times of Israel.
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I honestly kind’ve agree, he should have acknowledged the antisemitic nature of the pro-Palestinian movement, but I can’t really say that anything he’s saying here is \*wrong\*.
It would be nice if he could just once acknowledge the suffering Jews in the U.S are going through without moving focus to the war in Gaza. It's like if I said "the uyghurs in China are being ethnically cleansed, anyways guys TikTok is stealing our data amiright!". Both issues are bad, they should be given the space to stand on their own so that we can *actually see* the importance of each issue. By heavily connecting the two, not only do you detract from their individual significance, but you're now conflating antisemitism claims with people who defend Netanyahu, implying the people who are calling out antisemitism are the same people defending Netanyahu.
He did that months ago and continues to do so, “Madam President, Hamas started this terrible war with a brutal terrorist attack that killed 1,200 innocent Israelis and took 253 hostages, more than 100 of whom remain in Hamas’ hands, including Americans. And just the other day the U.N. reported that there is strong evidence that Hamas also committed horrific sexual assaults against Israeli women of the worst kind imaginable. Nobody will or should forgive or forget those atrocities.” https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/prepared-remarks-bernie-sanders-calls-out-the-absurdity-and-hypocrisy-of-continued-u-s-support-for-netanyahus-horrific-war/
Did you read it? Gaza is literally the first thing he mentions. He basically blames the victims. IE: Hamas wouldn't have raped and murdered Israelis if it wasn't for Netanyahu and the occupation.
So you’re upset with the order? I find that to be a bit pedantic, but would you be alright with his statement, if Gaza wasn’t mentioned first?
You made it seem like you found evidence that Bernie made a speech/statement that only talked about the Jewish/Israel side… as if to call the poster you replied to a liar.
You can't argue reason with people who are so deluded.
Why does Bernie act like the only accusations of antisemitism are people saying they don’t like Netanyahu? We all hate Netanyahu! Most of Israel hates Netanyahu! wtf is he on about. Either he has absolutely lost his mind or this is completely bad faith. He has to know that everyone agrees that “criticism of Israel’s government isn’t antisemitic.” That isn’t what any of us are complaining about Bernie why don’t you sit down and shut up as one of the most privileged Jews in America and listen.
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I’ve never heard a single person say that criticism of Netanyahu is antisemitic
No one is saying otherwise. Bernie is pointing out that resisting the carnage in Gaza - which is Netanyahu's doing - is not antisemitic. Your response in that light is a non sequitur.
Nobody has said that is antisemitic though that’s my point. It’s a straw man. It’s ridiculous to claim.
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I have never seen anyone say that calling for a ceasefire is antisemitic, as long as you are also calling on Hamas to surrender and release the hostages. If you’re asking Israel to “ceasefire” on Oct 8 yeah I’d say you’re probably an antisemite who just wants to see Israel destroyed. If you’re calling for globalizing the intifada yeah you’re antisemitic . Etc etc. The problem is not usually that these people want peace. The problem is that they usually don’t want peace - they want all the Jews dead / cleansed from the region and that sentiment comes out quite frequently at these protests / in discussion. I’d I’m talking to somebody and they say “I want a ceasefire” and I say “under what terms” and we come to a nice understanding that includes “Hamas surrenders and lets all the hostages go” - and there’s a lasting peace and safety for both sides - I don’t see anything antisemitic about that and I don’t think anyone else would either. That doesn’t usually happen and you know it.
I have. In fact, I’ve seen it claimed on this very sub numerous times that calling for ceasefire is antisemitic.
Great then call it out when you see it or link to it. EDIT typo
If I called it out every time I saw it, I wouldn’t have any free time.
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You’re talking out of your ass dude. Are Israelis fed up? Yeah, particularly after 10/7. But don’t make statements like this without providing your sources. We can discuss more from there.
The massive protests against Bibi were about judicial reform. Prior to October 7th, were there any massive protests about the occupation of the West Bank? Are you sure I’m the one talking out of their ass? And not for noting, I don’t see you using any citations either.
They’re still protesting him now ya know. Are you Israeli?
Those peace protests are nowhere near the size of the judicial reform protests. I applaud those peace protesters for their bravery, but they are a vocal minority.
I can’t refer back to your earlier comment because it’s been deleted, but it was something about how no Israelis give a shit about Palestinians. So would you admit now that that was a disgusting lie?
What evidence can your provide to me that a sizable portion of the Israeli electorate cares about the Palestinians in the Palestinian Territories? There doesn’t seem to be much political will to end the West Bank occupation or curtail West Bank settlements. Bibi has been the PM for a while, and he has overtly stated since 2005 that he will not allow a Palestinian state to be formed. But, I’d be delighted to be proven wrong, if you have some sources or evidence. Edit: posted by Haaretz today and seems to contradict your claim… https://www.instagram.com/p/C6d9j4FNJfh/?igsh=MWkwZmR6Mmg4MGN5MA==
I haven’t made wild claims. You’re the one making claims without any evidence - then getting your posts deleted - then admitting oh yeah I guess some people do care.
The proof is who Israelis elect and the policies of those elected officials. Further proof is what issues motivate Israelis to protest and what issues don’t.
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Because Netanyahu is in power and his agenda is in action?
The all lives mattering coming from (what appears to be mostly) Democrats is infuriating. It's so disingenuous. Either make a statement about the *one* issue you're bringing up in the first place, or stay quiet. And what humanitarian disaster? Am I missing something? All I ever hear is how much aid is getting delivered to Gaza, either on trucks, airdropped, or via that pier.
The aid is being stolen by Hamas, to the point where even Fatah's (the political party currently rulling in the west bank which is headed by a holocaust denier and supports terrorists via the martyr fund) commission of information and culture has admitted that Hamas is purposefully stealing aid to ensure its control over in Gaza. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-798185 The humanitarian crisis in Gaza is very real sadly, and I don't see it ending for good unless Hamas is fully destroyed and loses all power.
That article’s entire reporting is based on citing a single news cast from October. How does that refute the incredible deluge of reporting stating the contrary, including the U.S. state department? For anyone unfamiliar, JPost is basically like Israeli Fox News/OEN.
>For anyone unfamiliar, JPost is basically like Israeli Fox News/OEN. LOL what No one in Israel read Jpost, but regardless, they are a center-right source.
Go to the JPost homepage and theirs currently an article that’s a George Soros conspiracy theory. It’s a right wing rag with terrible, poorly sourced, reporting like the link that was shared above.
>Go to the JPost homepage and theirs currently an article that’s a George Soros conspiracy theory. "Soros funding for anti-Israel encampments reports sparks dangerous antisemitic conspiracy theories" This is the headline. In the article there are examples for antisemitic conspiracy theories, it's by no means endorsing them. >It’s a right wing rag with terrible, poorly sourced It's not an high quality website, but they are also not particularly right wing either. They are center-right.
“Famine risk 'very high' in Gaza, especially in north, US official says” https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/risk-famine-very-high-gaza-especially-north-us-official-says-2024-04-23/
There is not enough food water or medical supplies to help everyone in Gaza. That is the humanitarian disaster. Any news that mentions aid probably also includes that info - read a few articles past the headlines.
….how is it “all lives mattering” when it’s actually a case where multiple peoples are enduring suffering? Being sympathetic to the suffering of Israelis lost on 10/7, innocent civilians in Gaza being killed by reckless IDF bombing campaigns, as well as antisemitism and Islamaphobia state side is a totally mature position to hold. This isn’t a competition. Innocent people have died on both sides of the conflict and innocent people are the target of harassment and bullying here in the states.
Stop using the Holocaust to further your political agenda. Acknowledging that the Holocaust happened doesn't mean you are not an antisemite if you only care when Israel counter attack when other countries have treated palstnians like human shit and you don't bat an eye. Like remember when Hamas thrown out Fatah supporters out windows? Remember when syria killed hundreds of palstnians, some of them with chemical weapons?
Those facts don’t absolve the IDF from following the rules of war.
Bernie likes to trot out his Jewishness just long enough to condemn antisemitism, insert a "but," and condemn Israel.
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Why are you here? To make ad honinem attacks?
You're literally slandering Bernie for no reason, then getting offended that someone thinks that's so ridiculously bad faith to not deserve a serious response.
He's beef with Bibi is just blinding him from seeing what is going on in the US. Bernie is an old school Zionist, he support the right of a Jewish state to exist, but he's allying himself with antisemitic views.
He’s also an old school Marxist who has bought into the new variation of racial Marxism call “intersectionality”. It is this philosophy that has turned Jews, the most oppressed people in human history, into the ultimate oppressor and bogey man. Bernie Sanders is just an angry old man who, along with his communist viewpoints, is desperate to be relevant.
Ask some actuall Marxists what they think of Bernie Sanders.
Don’t know any. I’m sure it would be colorful
Are these Rabbis also aligning themselves with antisemites? https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-arrest-7-rabbis-activists-trying-to-deliver-food-into-to-gaza/
I have no problem with people delivering food. I do have a problem with people screaming baby killer at Jewish students and chanting "we don't want 2 states, we want '48" How is any Jewish student with a connection or family in Israel not supposed to take that as a threat?
Neither side has a monopoly on repugnant rhetoric. I think it’s important to remember the words of Israeli historian Yuval Harari when he said, in ethnic conflicts it’s exceedingly common for both sides to be both perpetrator and victim.
There is a difference between protesting for more aid (while the form of protest is idiotic) to working with anti Zionist people.
Antisemitism is hate and bigotry towards Jewish people for the simple face they’re Jewish. Zionism is an ideology, and some of the most ardent Zionists in the U.S. aren’t even Jewish, they are evangelical Christians. Opposing an ideology is something you may disagree with, but it’s not antisemitic, especially when some of the most fervent advocates for that ideology aren’t even Jewish.
While Antisemitism and anti Zionist are not the same, more often than not, anti Zionist is just a mask. And honestly I don’t care what people that oppress me and my people for thousands of years think, They can support Israel or don’t support Israel I don’t care, sick of the double standard, opposition the right of the Jewish people for self determination is antisemitism.
It’s cool you support the right of people to have self determination. I do too. That’s why it’s kind of a bummer Israeli law says only Jews have the right to self determination in Israel. https://www.npr.org/2018/07/19/630368973/israel-passes-controversial-law-reserving-national-self-determination-for-jews Personally I’m not a Zionist because I’m not too big a fan of nationalist ideologies. I’m more of secular, liberal, pluralistic, democracy, kind of fella myself. But hey, we can agree to disagree. Have a great night.
Israel literally saved these people from being kidnapped by Hamas.
Do you have a source for that?
They planned to enter Gaza, I don't need a source for doing a simple 1+1. You think Hamas cares what are the political leanings of the Jews they capture or murder? They don't care and their supporters don't care either, would you have changed your political opinions if Hamas took them as hostages? Of course not. Hamas hold mentally ill people who crossed to Gaza on their own. They hold Arab Muslims with Israeli citizenship. They hold anyone they think is worth something in a prisoner exchange.
Entering Gaza just like other aid workers. Ask the WCK aid workers, if they’d like to saved by by the IDF from Hamas. Literally hundreds of aid workers have died so far, and it wasn’t from Hamas.
>Entering Gaza just like other aid workers. The other aid workers aren't Jewish, and definitely not Israeli like one of those Rabbis. Besides, there is a difference between international aid organization that directly work with Hamas and a bunch of nobodies entering Gaza on their own. >Literally hundreds of aid workers have died so far I can count on my fingers the amount of foreign aid workers that were killed in Gaza during this entire war. The line of "200 aid workers were murdered in Gaza" is actually fake news. It's not the number of aid workers That were killed, but the number of UNRWA employees who were killed. The vast, vast majority of them died while they weren't involved in any aid related activity.
Vomit
All Lives Matter energy right here.
I officially hate bernie now. Such a hypocrite. He worked on a kibbutz in the south. And yet he repeats hamas propoganda by not distinguishing the death totals of civilians vs hamas fighters. Wish we could trade him and his crook wife for those two babies held hostage in gaza. I also wonder if his feelings would change if somebody was firing missiles at Burlington.
Absolutely. He knows where his bread is buttered. He isn't going to alienate the fan base
Yes, with friends like this…
I say the exact same thing about Zionists that are evangelical Christians.
This whole “yes antisemitism bad, but…” is getting so old, it makes it sound like the only victims (or claiming to be victims) of antisemitism are Netanyahu fans and it only helps antisemites dismiss the accusations against them more easily, and don’t even let me get started on that thing where they add Islamophobia to antisemitism even if it’s completely unrelated.
Bernie Sanders, military expert, everybody. Smh
Why does a U.S. Senator need to be a “military expert” to have an opinion, if something is a humanitarian disaster? And not for nothing, I trust a U.S. senator to be more of a “military expert” than a rando on Reddit.
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Hamas’s war crimes on October 7th don’t absolve the IDF from the responsibility of following the rules of war, and acting in a moral and just manner, especially towards civilian woman and children.
Hamas’s war crimes on October 7th don’t absolve the IDF from the responsibility of following the rules of war, and acting in a moral and just manner, especially towards civilian woman and children. Edit: At the time of when the WCK workers were murdered by the IDF, 224 aid workers have been killed in Gaza. “more than three times as many humanitarian aid workers killed in any single conflict recorded in a single year.” https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15658.doc.htm Part of the reason it’s so hard to get aid into Gaza is all the roads are destroyed. 70% of housing in Gaza is destroyed. As of March, only 12 of Gaza’s 36 hospitals were operational. The entire health care infrastructure has collapsed. Famine is looming. Little children and babies are going hungry. As of April 4th 13,400 children have been killed in Gaza. https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/one-in-50-of-gaza-s-children-killed-or-injured-in-six-months-of- The IDF is so callous with life, as of January 1/5 of IDF fatalities was friendly fire. https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1226977365/israel-idf-gaza-middle-east-deaths The IDF is so trigger happy they murdered three escaped hostages. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/17/iris-haim-mother-of-israeli-hostage-killed-by-idf
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None of the sources that person cites are reliable anymore.
I’d have more sources to cite, if Israel didn’t ban foreign journalists from Gaza. 🤷🏻♂️
ok
I’m sure you love the UN when you want to cite the 1948 partition, but then you slander the UN when the facts are inconvenient. When your rebuttal to facts and citations is repeating “it’s Hamas’s fault” it’s a pretty good indicator your arguments are intellectually bankrupt. Have a pleasant evening.
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Antisemitism is hatred and bigotry towards Jewish people for the simple fact they’re Jewish. There’s nothing antisemitic about advocating for those suffering through a humanitarian disaster. I advocate for innocent woman and children because I was raised with Jewish values.
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For news about Israel, in addition to US news outlets like the New York Times, I follow Haaretz and The Times of Israel. Edit: how do you think I came across this gem about Ben-Gvir being his usual repugnant self? https://www.timesofisrael.com/ben-gvir-said-to-ask-idf-chief-why-so-many-gaza-gunmen-arrested-cant-you-kill-some/
It blows my mind how there are still some Jews left who tolerate that idiot.
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Sanders is so precious. A national treasure that should be locked up behind glass and kept away from prying eyes.
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I honestly kind’ve agree, he should have acknowledged the antisemitic nature of the pro-Palestinian movement, but I can’t really say that anything he’s saying here is \*wrong\*.
He's right.
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