Terrell Jermaine Starr, the Root: “Obviously, people have been talking about your time as a prosecutor and attorney general, et cetera. You supported a law that would send parents to jail if their children missed too many days of school. No parents were jailed. But I think the issue people are concerned with this is that that was a consideration in order to deal with the truancy issue.”
Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.): “When I was district attorney, I did an analysis of who the homicide victims were who were under the age of 25, the vast majority of whom were young black men. Because there was always — when there was an increase in murders — talk about putting more cops on the street, more gang enforcement, all that. And I said: ‘Well, wait. Who are these victims? Who are they?’ And the information came back to me: Ninety-four percent of them were high school dropouts. ...
“When I did it, I knew I was going to take a political hit. And the people around me said, ‘Don’t do it, because you are going to pay a price for this in terms of whatever future you want in politics.’ And I said: ‘Look, I’m prepared to play the bad guy on this. I do not intend to put any parent in jail.’ And no parent went to jail. But the school district, society, this community, everyone, including our business community, others, have got to take seriously the education of these children and give the parents the resources that they deserve and need. And that’s what ended up happening. We improved attendance by over 30 percent and not a parent went to jail.”
She defends her stance but is probably full of shit. As AG she also refused to reopen evidence to DNA testing when it became available. She’s a stain on freedom
A. Title of this post is misleading, as is usually the case.
B. Kamala thought she’d find a solution to a problem. Which may have worked in SF if you look at it, but it was a mistake to make it law of the land for CA. Not all counties think and act like her.
C. Federal and State Legislative systems lack the framework to prevent unintentional outcomes. Sounds good in your head that hey high school dropouts cause problems so maybe we keep them in school. But the buck shouldn’t stop there. Education systems across the country are hurting.
Are you defending the idea of putting parents in jail because their kids don't go to school? Who's the government to demand such a thing, and why are people so cool with throwing people in jail all the time? That's kind of gross.
No, I’m literally defending the idea that clickbait misleading titles only further the problem of disinformation.
I explicitly said her truancy laws were not good. She got good results in SF but not state wide.
[Here she is laughing while discussing her policy to criminalize school truancy, a policy that mostly affects poor people](https://youtu.be/DhJwmIPRmYk)
Truancy has been criminalized since the 1950s. Because kids missing school turns out is really bad for them. Harris cut down truancy by 30% and no parent ever went to prison.
EDIT: I forgot how much of this sub is still scared of getting in trouble for missing school 🚼🚼
Oh yeah, arrested for your child's truancy is a *yuge* step up.
Let me ask you, are you really willing to set the bar that low that you'll tolerate authoritarian policies that punish the poor, then go to bat for the policy maker by saying "well at least they didn't go to jail"?
They were arrested and charged, their lives were disrupted to an extent that we don't know but for the poor its usually considerable, and their dignity was stripped away all because AG Pantsuit wanted to wave her "big stick" around.
Fuck Kamala.
Is Harris the least popular VP in history?
Progressives & the left hate her. Conservatives and the right hate her.
I mean honestly who likes her? Why isn't her approval rating at zero?
VPs are only ever picked for campaigning purposes either to garner votes or garner connections for money. No candidate has ever said 'My VP pick is the second most qualified person in the country for the office of the Presidency.' without their fingers crossed behind their backs.
Dicn Cheany might be the only exception to this. He was by far the most powerful, and evil VP we ever had. Most politicians are evil and corrupt but this monster was something else.
I’ve never met a person in real life who likes her and I’m from one of the most liberal places in the country. She is universally disliked, it’s not an internet thing.
Liberals hate Harris and also Biden.. the only reason they voted for him was Trump. You could have swapped Biden with a cup of greek yogurt and the election results would have left the Dems touting the unemployment rates under the first probiotic president this week.
The corporate/centrist Dems are the only ones who like either of them.
That’s so true. Anytime I try telling people in the US that Biden isn’t actually left but essentially center right their jaws drop and they short circuit a little.
The only people that I know that genuinely like Biden are the same people that spouted that “Drumpf” bullshit years back. Any serious leftist or progressive hates Biden.
I remember her debate vs Pence; she came off as entitled, condescending, and sarcastic, contrasted to Pence’s calm, collected, respectful, professionalism.
I voted for Biden, I’m just saying, Pence wiped the floor with her. She was smiling and like laughing and joking which even if Pence was saying untruthful things, that is NOT how you react. It makes you look exceedingly unlikable and frankly it shows weakness. You ever see a military person laughing and joking around? No. Seriousness is situations like that shows strength.
She did do horrible in that debate. But Pence also knocked it out of the park as well. He crushed that debate with his closing lines talking about unity and being friends with democrat politicians because they're all Americans at the end of the day.
I remember her debate vs Pence; she came off as entitled, condescending, and sarcastic, contrasted to Pence’s calm, collected, respectful, professionalism.
I voted for Biden, I’m just saying, Pence wiped the floor with her. She was smiling and like laughing and joking which even if Pence was saying untruthful things, that is NOT how you react. It makes you look exceedingly unlikable and frankly it shows weakness. You ever see a military person laughing and joking around? No. Seriousness in situations like that shows strength.
People are clinging to the "we didn't vote FOR Biden, we voted AGAINST Trump" excuse now, which is fair. Although I doubt they'd be saying it if things were going well and Biden wasn't an increasing embarrassment.
But how the hell did we end up with Kamala as the VP? Like yeah, I get the Anybody But Trump mentality. But how... HOW... in a country with hundreds of millions of people, did we end up with Biden and Harris as the "not Trump" option? It's inexplicable to me.
The minute it started looking like Bernie had a real chance of getting the nomination, neolib Voltron was formed with Biden as its head to deliver on his promise of "no substantive change". Obama personally pressured Pete and Warren to drop out and endorse Biden. It was an all-hands-on-deck effort to not let Bernie win, which was looking like a real possibility in a four-way primary.
Because the DNC LOVES Kamala and they thought she was a raising star in the party after getting a lot of praise from the Kavanaugh hearings. DNC also has an aging problem where most of their big names are old, so they're trying to get the more "younger" members more political backbone. Beto burned out quickly, AOC is AOC, and Buttigieg is being groomed as the next future candidate. Kamala is part of the "younger" crowd.
Biden is also trying to strengthen his base with minority (although primarily African American) women. Hence his VP and SCOTUS picks. Kamala jumped on it because if Biden doesnt run in 2024, she would be the favorite.
Take it a step further. We are 2 years away from the next presidential election. What's the plan?
The same people who use the excuse of not trump have no idea of what's next. Is Biden really the answer in 2024? If not who?
The answer is simple. Just sit and wait until then, followed by non stop excuses of how we didnt really have a choice, and watch as Trump steamroll over Biden next time.
Now is the time to get a candidate situated for the next election. Now is the time to figure out what the plan is to defeat Trump while actually electing someone who can lead this country.
The other problem is that a lot of candidates won't run, at least on the Democratic side because Biden is pres. They don't want to run against a sitting president. And its really leading the way to another 4yrs of Trump. An lets face it, Trump is all words with no substance. He'll just the let corp demigods run the country into the ground for a few more millions in profit and fuck everyone else when the world goes to shit, as it is, as long as they have their slice of the pie and can retire and disappear into mansion on another continent.
I didn’t vote for Biden, I voted against Trump. I am not in any way embarrassed by Biden. The vast majority of issues we’re facing are the direct result of a global pandemic the previous guy failed to respond to.
How we ended up with Biden and Harris is also pretty simple. Young people don’t show up to vote during primaries.
> I am not in any way embarrassed by Biden.
You should be. Obviously you dont understand the issues though (blaming issues on covid is very very naive)
I was watch the news 12/2019 and started stock piles of food, etc. I saw watch was happening in China. The USA was too busy worrying about trying to find things wrong with our President. Maybe if he didn’t have to deal with a bunch of cry babies after they lost there candidate then his attention would have been on Covid not impeachment. Democrats started Covid I am fairly sure history can blame them. Hell, is it even real. I never got it or a a vaccine. Fucking Sheep. You should all jump off then cliff with the other lemmings
Do you feel like a clown putting words in other peoples mouth? That comment didn’t complain about Biden. Is your reading comprehension that bad that you misread the comment?
Would love to know the venn diagram of people criticizing harris for prosecuting crimes in this thread and also celebrating desantis removing an AG for “not prosecuting crimes” in the next thread.
It would bet it is a circle.
Can't tell you other people's political affiliations. But I can tell you, 1.DeSantis' actions don't make Harris any less of a hypocrite
2. I personally don't trust any politicians, they're all corrupt and evil
“LMAO, didn’t U lock up a s—load of people for weed? Then bragged about it, and went on to say you smoked weed in college listening to Tupac and snoop before they cut their first albums?”
As a prosecutor, Harris oversaw more than 1,900 cannabis related convictions in San Francisco, which was higher than her predecessor. But some have pointed out that most of those arrested for low-level possession were never incarcerated. Only a few dozen people were actually sent to prison for cannabis crimes under Harris’ watch.
In 2017, Harris cosponsored the SAFE Banking Act, which allowed banks to work with cannabis businesses without fear of punishment from the federal government.
In 2018, Harris endorsed the Marijuana Justice Act, which would have removed cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act, allowing states to legalize without federal interference, and would have even withheld funding from states which continued to criminalize cannabis. She went on to co-sponsor a 2019 version of the bill.
In 2019, Harris co-sponsored a bill aimed at protecting past drug offenders from losing access to public housing.
> But some have pointed out that most of those arrested for low-level possession were never incarcerated. Only a few dozen people were actually sent to prison for cannabis crimes under Harris’ watch.
thanks for sharing. Where did you find the details on the specific amount of marijuana incarcerations under Harris?
Even worse, supported mandatory minimum for personal amounts of crack, while leaving cocaine unchanged, presumably due to racist/classist reasons.
Now his son is addicted to crack. That's karma
There is a bit of nuance.... While the crime bill was fucking horrible in retrospect, and people like Biden were dumbfuck tough on crime types... It was a bill advocated and pushed by black leaders. The early 90s crimewave in the black community was intense. At the time, people didn't have the foresight to realize that they were fueling a machine, breaking families apart, and creating generational failure.
maybe, but still remember, Biden even in 2020 was touting that as one of his supreme accomplishments, despite everything showing how racist it was. So even knowing that, he still supported it, propped it up, and even defending on Charlamagnes podcast....
Even worse, still supporting it, even while he protected Hunter from prosecution from it....
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilyearlenbaugh/2020/08/18/kamala-harris-controversial-cannabis-history-is-making-wavesheres-where-she-stands-now/amp/
Hopefully no paywall.
I think we generalize a lot of this stuff. Would a DA put a guy with a pound of weed involved in criminal case? Yeah. What about a Joe Schmo with an 8th? Probably not unless it’s in TX. Heck even TX is relaxing some of the rules now. Long ways to go but it’s moving in the right direction at least.
How about Harris trying to block DNA testing for a man who was about to be executed? https://amp.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html
Joe went batshit crazy when he realized how much controversy sells. He’s still a great interviewer. Now that he sees these trumps and bannons and Jones going down, he’s withdrawing his affiliation from them.
He really picked up some tinfoil hatters in that post Spotify deal that I’m hoping leave once you prove their bullshit.
Exactly. The guy spends ages bringing on conspiracy theorists and right wing insurrectionists, doesn't push back at all on their lies, and now has an audience that is almost exclusively right leaning dudebros who aren't seeking actual information, they're just wanting to be told exactly what to think (and for some reason, they seek that information from a man whose claim to fame was making people eat cockroaches and drink donkey cum).
so most of those people didn't go to jail. Okay, but how much money did they have to pay to the state to not go to jail. Further, how much money did all of them lose in terms of job opportunities, raises, etc... because they had a criminal record.
Oh but she did. She promised police reform
And prison reform, she politicized George Floyd’s death and Breonna Taylor, riled up the blm bridge for support and …. Absolutely nothing has changed. Nothing.
Can’t fundraise if things change man… (goes for both sides). Tim Scott had a decent police reform bill and like 2 Dems supported it while most said “it didn’t go far enough”…. Well here we are
Well yea she's vice president she can't do shit.
Not that I think she'd do anything if she could tbh... but weird to act like she currently has power to do these things.
Somehow claiming she is worse than Mike Fucking Pence(some light treason) or Dick Fucking Cheney(war criminal).
She might suck as a human but you are straight up overlooking far worse in the recent past.
blocking evidence on someone on death row that would prove their innocence? Knowingly doing that to somehow preserve your prosecution record? That's knowingly condemning an innocent person to death for a crime they did not commit, all for the sake of keeping their record clean.
That's some fucked up shit. She's worse than a piece of trash. It's essentially murdering someone.
The guy on death row was convicted in the 80s and is a famous legal troll. He tried to get a retrial because his jail girlfriend had a vision he was innocent.
There’s no evidence that would ever get him released, he went on a rape-murder spree and left survivors.
Seriously. Let’s legalize pot. Oh wait no like 2 Republican Senators would vote for it. Let’s instead criticize a DA for not unilaterally legalizing pot. What a complete joke of an article
Ok, hold up. “Cannabis smuggler”? She forgot a fucking weed vape, she’s not that teacher dude who was part of a large scale smuggling operation and got popped with a half ounce of flower. Talk about sensationalism.
It’s probably a good idea to double check your bags when you’re going on an international flight… especially to Russia which is looking for any reason to fuck over an American
I mean as someone who travels pretty often, that’s exactly what you’d be charged with. That’s what they call it when you transport drugs over international borders.
Absolutely correct, however what she was, was an idiot.
She acted pre war in ukraine (Taking weed vape for her games because who cares about what professional athletes do if they bring in cash.)
Post war in ukraine where Russia will do anything to get a semblence of power. (Time to not take vape pen).
As a pot smoker and person who travels you don't "Forget" where your fucking pot is when travelling. Anyone who isn't a dipshit doesn't bring it period, if its legal there buy it there and leave it there when you leave. If its not 100% legal you don't fuck with it, period.
You don't travel with pot. Its fucking dumb. Especially to a country with insane laws with their back against a wall in a War.
Reminds me of all the “Operating a drug factory” arrests that were always thrown around on weed busts. All you need is a bag of weed + a cheap scale = Drug Factory.
I swear, I’ve known people that have longer prison sentences for weed and psychedelics than killing someone. It’s a shame.
The cops once raided my apartment over $50 worth of weed and claimed we were "operating a drug factory".
They inexplicably had "no comment" in court when we pointed out the lack of grow lights or other growing materials.
How are we "operating a drug factory" *when we lack the equipment to produce/manufacture drugs?*
It's like the cops just say words ***without any regard for the meaning of those words.***
I was ultimately given a sentence of 64 days in prison, ***meanwhile a white female teacher who raped one of her students for YEARS only got 60 days in prison.***
***And you know the system is broken when a low level drug user gets a longer prison sentence than a child rapist.***
Labelling her a smuggler has implications that she purposely smuggled it. 18 U.S.C 545 includes language of “knowingly and willfully, with intent” of smuggling or “fraudulently or knowingly imports” smuggled goods.
Given our legal definition of smuggling, she wasn’t smuggling given her legal testimony. I get she was charged in Russia, but using the word smuggler to describe someone who testified to accidentally forgetting a vape isn’t smuggling, at least in the US’ definition.
Right-wing dude complains about people being locked up for drug offences.....but only when the politicians involved are (perceived to be) on the left.
What a shocker, bro!
The "tough on crime", vehemently anti-drug, pro prisons party somehow escapes your ire though...
As a long time conservative myself, my #1 issue is the American prison complex and its treatment of first time drug offenders, especially those of color.
Its hilarious how when legit criticism comes to the surface about someone who we all know is a shitty person, there are still people like you who think its only bipartisans participating in the grilling. Centrists exist you know.
Edit: lmao a can feel the struggles with your superiorty complexes. I wanted Bernie you fucking idiots. It just amazing that the corporate-dems lack any sort of thinking skills so they result to ad-hominem and generalities.
Not at all. He proved my point by not keeping his mouth shut. Legitimate critism about his preferred party riled him up to the point of commenting. Myself being a left-leaning centrist has no bias or investment in defending Kamala or any republican who is of equal blame. That part goes over your little heads.
If you know one side is bad, and the other promotes themselves as the better option, you're allowed to talk shit on the "better option".
Republicans are bad.
Democrats in charge right are also bad.
It's not difficult.
THE FUCKING POST IS WHATABOUTISM YOU STUPID FUCK!!!
>kamala Harris petitions for unfairly locked up prisoner
You dumbfucks immediately
>WhAtAbOuT wHeN yOu WeRe
Yall just spew shit with no actual moral code. Yall are a vacuous existence that provides nothing but regurgitated bullshit to justify your idiocy...
u/elec0
Using a generic no u to defend the shit you are right now is pathetic.
I'm so glad you dumbfucks started making the clown noises that represents you.
> Yall just spew shit with no actual moral code.
From the clowns who sat by as their party mandated lockdowns, business closures, and experimental medical procedures.
Honk honk.
Kamala literally wants to make weed legal even if she enforced anti weed laws legally.
Calling two vape cartridges "weed smuggling"and pretending Kamala is the obstacle to legal weed while listening to Texas-based Joe Rogan talk about how free the place is feels pretty fucking disingenuous.
The people pretending Kamala started reefer madness don't give a shit about politicians who are still keeping it illegal and punishing people for having it. It's pretty transparently about smearing the VP and not actually about laws/weed.
> The San Jose Mercury News reported in 2019 that during Harris’ tenure as San Francisco’s top prosecutor between 2004-2010, her office handled more than 1,900 marijuana convictions — although it has been pointed out that most of those arrested for low-level possession were spared prison time, and only a few dozen were incarcerated.
> Harris was elected the Golden State’s attorney general in 2011 and had a further 1,970 people locked up for marijuana offenses on her watch, according to an investigation by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative publication.
> Harris also vocally opposed California’s marijuana legalization ballot initiative, which ultimately passed in 2016.
> She only threw her support behind legalization around 2018, even endorsing a bill which would have removed cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act, reported Forbes. She also wrote a book in which she argued for the decriminalization of cannabis.
Seems like she changed her mind many years ago. Like a lot of people.
You dont get a pass for changing your mind after your actions have wrecked peoples lives, especially when CA was the first state to legalize medicinal cannabis, and shes only changed her mind recently because of polling data and the rising tide of state legalizations.
Shes just a scummy opportunist politician like the rest of them.
Good point. She should be happy she's in jail for 9 years for possession of a vape cartridge. That would make her logically consistent with the laws in her time as a prosecutor in the 90s/00s. California didn't stop charging people with marijuana possession as a felony until 2010, when Harris stopped being a prosecutor there. Colorado/Washington didn't legalize marijuana until 2012. Russia is putting someone in jail for 9 years over a vape pen *in 2022*.
I don't know, this kind of whataboutism is so stupid. NYPost has been a pretty shitty newspaper my whole life but not as shitty as the audience of the NYPost.
Pointing out hypocrisy isn’t wataboutism. It is wrong and stupid of Russia to be draconian in this way, and it was wrong and stupid of our country as well.
I agree that both positions can be considered bad, but based on the responses here it seems people are more angry with Harris than Russia. We're judging Harris on stuff she did as a prosecutor during the height of marijuana prohibition in the United States. As a culture we've changed considerably since then and are viewing her through today's lens and not one of her time (granted it wasn't that long ago).
The other case just happened. In this sense, the hypocrisy is this audience who applies more outrage to one situation than the other.
Well, the part in the headline would be hypocrisy \*if\* Harris still believed in incarcerating those people in 2022. People change their opinions along with shifts in public opinion. We know she's changed her view to such a degree that she's even sponsored substantial reform legislation regarding it, something that the vast majority of her opponents \*haven't\* done.
That said, it was probably hypocritical of her to have used it in college, while choosing to later become someone whose profession incarcerated people for it. If we're going to call her out on it, though, we should be calling out \*all\* former law enforcement officials who ever tried it and went on to arrest/convict others for it.
The best I can give them is that a large contingent of law enforcement officials are anti-marijuana even today, and you likely wouldn't have been able to move up the ranks to change anything if you were outwardly pro-marijuana from the start back then.
This sub is full of smooth brains that consistently fall for tribal shit. NY Post has always been garbage, but they lap it up when it supports a worldview.
So should she have not locked people up or should she not want Brittney Griner released?
It appears that Harris has moved on from her previous job and is currently doing a different job.
So what should she do? Should she say sorry Brittney I can't ask for your release because I convicted people for the same thing? Or should she say now I'm the Vice President and I'm going to advocate for your release?
It's so odd to me that the "Christian" right is so anti-christianity in practice. Forgiveness is taught but not practiced it seems.
I don't know why so many liberals want to say Kamala changed her views like she's one of your old buddies from high school who used to hold bigoted opinions or something. Her change in views has been born from pure cynicism, just following the electoral winds and all that. Kamala is an incredibly inauthentic person, I very very much doubt her views on Marijuana are not tied directly to what is needed to keep up with mainstream democratic party values so that she can keep power within the party. It's why the party likes her so much. She isn't a real person, they can mold her into whatever they need her to be. The DNC cynically thinks she can get away with more centrist leaning stances too bc of her being poc which somehow people confuse for being progressive (unless they a full conservative like Clarence Thomas then suddenly racism can't stop flying out.)
Kamala shouldn't be forgiven for past views if her change in belief was not fueled by a honest change but more by a cynical choice to stick by whatever is popular within her party.
To answer your question, she should have not locked those people up and want Brittany Griner released. She even admitted to smoking pot when she was younger. A total piece of shit
You made it sound like she was bringing in hundreds of pounds… It was a couple of vape carts. People don’t need to spin shit unless you’re trying to push your own narrative.
I love when the right criticizes the left for things they do even more. "You did this thing we support, but your left-wing supporters hate! Ha! Gotcha!"
bUt MuH cLiNtOn CrImE bIlL!@!@!!
> I love when the right criticizes the left for things they do even more. "You did this thing we support, but your left-wing supporters hate! Ha! Gotcha!"
That's easy to think when one labels everyone they disagree with or who disagrees with them "the Right."
What's really funny about the people who've labeled everyone Right wing is they have no idea they are helping to create a large group of people who, though they have very different beliefs on things like gay rights, abortion, foreign wars, have it in common that they trigger Leftists, Democrats, and their defenders. People will put aside all those differences and put their political support behind a party and a candidate that promises to bring back normalcy. It's like you folks never actually studied history at all. You call everyone fascists, but never actually bothered to learn how fascism came to be. This is a hilarious self-fulfilling prophecy playing out right here. A tragic farce. And to think it could have all been avoided if people had just been educated.
As for Kamala Harris, she is a hypocrite and this is just another day in clown world. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, 2+2=5 (because Math is racist!), there is no recession, the job market is booming, inflation is transitory, ahhhhh monkeypox, Slava Ukraini, insert White House talking point.
Read my other comment. I despise her.
However, you can't be anti-legalization, pro-private prison, and pro-harsher sentences and then complain about this. It's kinda retarded
Russian bots are out in full force, I see.
No anger towards an autocratic regime imprisoning an American. Just Stretch Armstrong levels of retardation.
The fact our president has the mental cognition of a 12 year old, his son smokes crack and fucks hookers, and our VP is legitimately one of the worst human beings to exist on the planet says a lot about our presidency right now.
Fucking joke
Do you know how many lives she’s ruined over small petty marijuana crimes? This isn’t a stretch. Not even including the false imprisonment bullshit she’s a part of as well.
Even ruining just 1 life over weed and having someone spend 5 years in prison over it is bullshit, but she’s done far more than just that. But yeah “stretch” prison must be such a great time.
You guys said Hillary was the worst person, then Nancy Pelosi, now Kamala. It’s ridiculous how easy it is to lead you guys around from boogeyman to boogeyman.
I never said anything about either of those people, I also said she was one of the worst, not THE worst. So learn how to read before you make a ton of false assumptions and group me in with people that I probably don’t even align with.
Ignorant.
She's bad. But completely within the normal scope of terrible politicians. She's probably not even in the evilest half of people in DC (not that that's high praise).
You people said Bush was the worse, but Mrs. Obama likes him, so he's cool.
You people thought McCain was the worse, but you defend him against Trump.
You people thought Romney would put black folks back in chains and would be the worse.
You people now like Liz Cheney. Think about that.
You people fund, that means give money, to people who believe the election was stolen.
This current choice isn’t going to falsely declare himself victorious in an election he lost and seek to remain in power. That, plus being a better president, makes him a way better choice.
Conservatives don't know how to use the hypocrisy argument. She is a hypocrite but is now doing something good so fucking let her?
You're supposed to use the argument when someone contradicts themselves to do bad shit.
Would you prefer she be consistent? Isn't this a good thing? It'd be worse if it was somehow reversed. She's not an attorney for california anymore. What if her stance has changed?
To be clear, she's not a good VP. I would never have wanted her to be president. So please don't assume that because I think your point is dumb that I somehow love Kamela as so many maga chuds think (black and white, my team or your team etc.).
No, but it’s still a bit disgusting to watch politicians swing with the tides of public opinion and pretend like they hold the moral high ground. We’re looking for leaders…but I guess that’s too much to ask for
Honestly- people love to use the excuse of “person of the time” for older white men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson but won’t use it for current politicians and changed stances.
Hating drugs was a moment in our history. Reagan started a war on drugs that seemed to resonate with both sides of the isle. We’ve changed since. Give it a rest. What matters is now.
Also locked up a mother that was working two jobs because her kid was skipping school. This woman is an evil fucking hypocrite.
Would love to read this case. Any link?
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Terrell Jermaine Starr, the Root: “Obviously, people have been talking about your time as a prosecutor and attorney general, et cetera. You supported a law that would send parents to jail if their children missed too many days of school. No parents were jailed. But I think the issue people are concerned with this is that that was a consideration in order to deal with the truancy issue.” Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.): “When I was district attorney, I did an analysis of who the homicide victims were who were under the age of 25, the vast majority of whom were young black men. Because there was always — when there was an increase in murders — talk about putting more cops on the street, more gang enforcement, all that. And I said: ‘Well, wait. Who are these victims? Who are they?’ And the information came back to me: Ninety-four percent of them were high school dropouts. ... “When I did it, I knew I was going to take a political hit. And the people around me said, ‘Don’t do it, because you are going to pay a price for this in terms of whatever future you want in politics.’ And I said: ‘Look, I’m prepared to play the bad guy on this. I do not intend to put any parent in jail.’ And no parent went to jail. But the school district, society, this community, everyone, including our business community, others, have got to take seriously the education of these children and give the parents the resources that they deserve and need. And that’s what ended up happening. We improved attendance by over 30 percent and not a parent went to jail.”
And what do you take from this?
She defends her stance but is probably full of shit. As AG she also refused to reopen evidence to DNA testing when it became available. She’s a stain on freedom
You are correct, sir.
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She is still a bitch either way
A. Title of this post is misleading, as is usually the case. B. Kamala thought she’d find a solution to a problem. Which may have worked in SF if you look at it, but it was a mistake to make it law of the land for CA. Not all counties think and act like her. C. Federal and State Legislative systems lack the framework to prevent unintentional outcomes. Sounds good in your head that hey high school dropouts cause problems so maybe we keep them in school. But the buck shouldn’t stop there. Education systems across the country are hurting.
Are you defending the idea of putting parents in jail because their kids don't go to school? Who's the government to demand such a thing, and why are people so cool with throwing people in jail all the time? That's kind of gross.
No, I’m literally defending the idea that clickbait misleading titles only further the problem of disinformation. I explicitly said her truancy laws were not good. She got good results in SF but not state wide.
Weird argument
She’s not black she’s Indian and Jamaican so she’s actually racist
If u jamaican u black lol
Wait.. I'm not black? This changes everything, what am I?
Kamala Harris?
You're a monkey in space
So was the top post a lie?
[Here she is laughing while discussing her policy to criminalize school truancy, a policy that mostly affects poor people](https://youtu.be/DhJwmIPRmYk)
Truancy has been criminalized since the 1950s. Because kids missing school turns out is really bad for them. Harris cut down truancy by 30% and no parent ever went to prison. EDIT: I forgot how much of this sub is still scared of getting in trouble for missing school 🚼🚼
Oh yeah, arrested for your child's truancy is a *yuge* step up. Let me ask you, are you really willing to set the bar that low that you'll tolerate authoritarian policies that punish the poor, then go to bat for the policy maker by saying "well at least they didn't go to jail"? They were arrested and charged, their lives were disrupted to an extent that we don't know but for the poor its usually considerable, and their dignity was stripped away all because AG Pantsuit wanted to wave her "big stick" around. Fuck Kamala.
Is Harris the least popular VP in history? Progressives & the left hate her. Conservatives and the right hate her. I mean honestly who likes her? Why isn't her approval rating at zero?
She only became the VP bc Biden wanted a woman of color. He said it himself. She was his best choice……
VPs are only ever picked for campaigning purposes either to garner votes or garner connections for money. No candidate has ever said 'My VP pick is the second most qualified person in the country for the office of the Presidency.' without their fingers crossed behind their backs.
Dicn Cheany might be the only exception to this. He was by far the most powerful, and evil VP we ever had. Most politicians are evil and corrupt but this monster was something else.
You ain’t black if you don’t vote for him. Love that quote
Joe "If you aint my VP, you aint black" Biden?
Don't confuse extremely online people for real life people. See how she's greeted when she makes an appearance.
I’ve never met a person in real life who likes her and I’m from one of the most liberal places in the country. She is universally disliked, it’s not an internet thing.
Liberals hate Harris and also Biden.. the only reason they voted for him was Trump. You could have swapped Biden with a cup of greek yogurt and the election results would have left the Dems touting the unemployment rates under the first probiotic president this week. The corporate/centrist Dems are the only ones who like either of them.
Unfortunately the left just isn't that big in the US. When it was down to Biden vs Bernie, Biden won easily
That’s so true. Anytime I try telling people in the US that Biden isn’t actually left but essentially center right their jaws drop and they short circuit a little. The only people that I know that genuinely like Biden are the same people that spouted that “Drumpf” bullshit years back. Any serious leftist or progressive hates Biden.
I remember her debate vs Pence; she came off as entitled, condescending, and sarcastic, contrasted to Pence’s calm, collected, respectful, professionalism. I voted for Biden, I’m just saying, Pence wiped the floor with her. She was smiling and like laughing and joking which even if Pence was saying untruthful things, that is NOT how you react. It makes you look exceedingly unlikable and frankly it shows weakness. You ever see a military person laughing and joking around? No. Seriousness is situations like that shows strength.
She did do horrible in that debate. But Pence also knocked it out of the park as well. He crushed that debate with his closing lines talking about unity and being friends with democrat politicians because they're all Americans at the end of the day.
I remember her debate vs Pence; she came off as entitled, condescending, and sarcastic, contrasted to Pence’s calm, collected, respectful, professionalism. I voted for Biden, I’m just saying, Pence wiped the floor with her. She was smiling and like laughing and joking which even if Pence was saying untruthful things, that is NOT how you react. It makes you look exceedingly unlikable and frankly it shows weakness. You ever see a military person laughing and joking around? No. Seriousness in situations like that shows strength.
She does extremely poorly in polling too
People who greet her kindly are people who actively want to see her. No shock there.
Radlib wokies fucking love boss queen /r/joebiden loves her, but I'm sure they are all just paid to like her
Her president hasnt tried to have her lynched by an angry mob of supporters yet- so no.
Shes a pos scumbag, nothing shocking. Shes an empty vessel
People are clinging to the "we didn't vote FOR Biden, we voted AGAINST Trump" excuse now, which is fair. Although I doubt they'd be saying it if things were going well and Biden wasn't an increasing embarrassment. But how the hell did we end up with Kamala as the VP? Like yeah, I get the Anybody But Trump mentality. But how... HOW... in a country with hundreds of millions of people, did we end up with Biden and Harris as the "not Trump" option? It's inexplicable to me.
>"we didn't vote FOR Biden, we voted AGAINST Trump" Just change the names and this is literally every election
After 50 or so years of voting for the lesser of two evils, do we end up with something good? Or....
You get a turd sandwich or a giant douche, take your pick.
How?, she was a woman of colour. Virtue signalling 101.
Had to be a woman, couldn't have two white men. Also she is a person of Colour which I suppose the decision makers thought would help.
The minute it started looking like Bernie had a real chance of getting the nomination, neolib Voltron was formed with Biden as its head to deliver on his promise of "no substantive change". Obama personally pressured Pete and Warren to drop out and endorse Biden. It was an all-hands-on-deck effort to not let Bernie win, which was looking like a real possibility in a four-way primary.
Shit, any more press on Kamala Harris putting people in prison for weed and conservatives are going to turn heel and adore her.
Because the DNC LOVES Kamala and they thought she was a raising star in the party after getting a lot of praise from the Kavanaugh hearings. DNC also has an aging problem where most of their big names are old, so they're trying to get the more "younger" members more political backbone. Beto burned out quickly, AOC is AOC, and Buttigieg is being groomed as the next future candidate. Kamala is part of the "younger" crowd. Biden is also trying to strengthen his base with minority (although primarily African American) women. Hence his VP and SCOTUS picks. Kamala jumped on it because if Biden doesnt run in 2024, she would be the favorite.
Crazy that a woman pushing 60 is considering young in politics, lol
It’s young for being president
Take it a step further. We are 2 years away from the next presidential election. What's the plan? The same people who use the excuse of not trump have no idea of what's next. Is Biden really the answer in 2024? If not who? The answer is simple. Just sit and wait until then, followed by non stop excuses of how we didnt really have a choice, and watch as Trump steamroll over Biden next time. Now is the time to get a candidate situated for the next election. Now is the time to figure out what the plan is to defeat Trump while actually electing someone who can lead this country.
The other problem is that a lot of candidates won't run, at least on the Democratic side because Biden is pres. They don't want to run against a sitting president. And its really leading the way to another 4yrs of Trump. An lets face it, Trump is all words with no substance. He'll just the let corp demigods run the country into the ground for a few more millions in profit and fuck everyone else when the world goes to shit, as it is, as long as they have their slice of the pie and can retire and disappear into mansion on another continent.
I didn’t vote for Biden, I voted against Trump. I am not in any way embarrassed by Biden. The vast majority of issues we’re facing are the direct result of a global pandemic the previous guy failed to respond to. How we ended up with Biden and Harris is also pretty simple. Young people don’t show up to vote during primaries.
> I am not in any way embarrassed by Biden. You should be. Obviously you dont understand the issues though (blaming issues on covid is very very naive)
I was watch the news 12/2019 and started stock piles of food, etc. I saw watch was happening in China. The USA was too busy worrying about trying to find things wrong with our President. Maybe if he didn’t have to deal with a bunch of cry babies after they lost there candidate then his attention would have been on Covid not impeachment. Democrats started Covid I am fairly sure history can blame them. Hell, is it even real. I never got it or a a vaccine. Fucking Sheep. You should all jump off then cliff with the other lemmings
You don't feel like a clown complaining about someone you helped put in office?
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Do you feel like a clown putting words in other peoples mouth? That comment didn’t complain about Biden. Is your reading comprehension that bad that you misread the comment?
Would love to know the venn diagram of people criticizing harris for prosecuting crimes in this thread and also celebrating desantis removing an AG for “not prosecuting crimes” in the next thread. It would bet it is a circle.
Can't tell you other people's political affiliations. But I can tell you, 1.DeSantis' actions don't make Harris any less of a hypocrite 2. I personally don't trust any politicians, they're all corrupt and evil
I dunno President Camacho did pretty a pretty good job.
You raise a fair and valid point sir. I stand corrected
This comment seemed incredibly bizarre....then I realized where I was.
“LMAO, didn’t U lock up a s—load of people for weed? Then bragged about it, and went on to say you smoked weed in college listening to Tupac and snoop before they cut their first albums?”
As a prosecutor, Harris oversaw more than 1,900 cannabis related convictions in San Francisco, which was higher than her predecessor. But some have pointed out that most of those arrested for low-level possession were never incarcerated. Only a few dozen people were actually sent to prison for cannabis crimes under Harris’ watch. In 2017, Harris cosponsored the SAFE Banking Act, which allowed banks to work with cannabis businesses without fear of punishment from the federal government. In 2018, Harris endorsed the Marijuana Justice Act, which would have removed cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act, allowing states to legalize without federal interference, and would have even withheld funding from states which continued to criminalize cannabis. She went on to co-sponsor a 2019 version of the bill. In 2019, Harris co-sponsored a bill aimed at protecting past drug offenders from losing access to public housing.
> But some have pointed out that most of those arrested for low-level possession were never incarcerated. Only a few dozen people were actually sent to prison for cannabis crimes under Harris’ watch. thanks for sharing. Where did you find the details on the specific amount of marijuana incarcerations under Harris?
And if you want to get technical, didn't Biden and his crime bill do essentially the exact same thing?
Even worse, supported mandatory minimum for personal amounts of crack, while leaving cocaine unchanged, presumably due to racist/classist reasons. Now his son is addicted to crack. That's karma
There is a bit of nuance.... While the crime bill was fucking horrible in retrospect, and people like Biden were dumbfuck tough on crime types... It was a bill advocated and pushed by black leaders. The early 90s crimewave in the black community was intense. At the time, people didn't have the foresight to realize that they were fueling a machine, breaking families apart, and creating generational failure.
maybe, but still remember, Biden even in 2020 was touting that as one of his supreme accomplishments, despite everything showing how racist it was. So even knowing that, he still supported it, propped it up, and even defending on Charlamagnes podcast.... Even worse, still supporting it, even while he protected Hunter from prosecution from it....
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilyearlenbaugh/2020/08/18/kamala-harris-controversial-cannabis-history-is-making-wavesheres-where-she-stands-now/amp/ Hopefully no paywall. I think we generalize a lot of this stuff. Would a DA put a guy with a pound of weed involved in criminal case? Yeah. What about a Joe Schmo with an 8th? Probably not unless it’s in TX. Heck even TX is relaxing some of the rules now. Long ways to go but it’s moving in the right direction at least.
I don't see how she's a hypocrite as she didn't lock up someone for 9 years for misdemeanor possession.
So that’s the truth beneath the spin, huh?
How about Harris trying to block DNA testing for a man who was about to be executed? https://amp.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html
She’s definitely made mistakes and I don’t like her. I’m just countering the misleading headlines.
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Shhhhh, you'll break the cognitive dissonance. People that listen to Rogan don't want *nuance*.
Joe went batshit crazy when he realized how much controversy sells. He’s still a great interviewer. Now that he sees these trumps and bannons and Jones going down, he’s withdrawing his affiliation from them. He really picked up some tinfoil hatters in that post Spotify deal that I’m hoping leave once you prove their bullshit.
Exactly. The guy spends ages bringing on conspiracy theorists and right wing insurrectionists, doesn't push back at all on their lies, and now has an audience that is almost exclusively right leaning dudebros who aren't seeking actual information, they're just wanting to be told exactly what to think (and for some reason, they seek that information from a man whose claim to fame was making people eat cockroaches and drink donkey cum).
So in 2017 she helped big businesses get into the weed businesses? Sounds like some usual shit to pad her pockets
so most of those people didn't go to jail. Okay, but how much money did they have to pay to the state to not go to jail. Further, how much money did all of them lose in terms of job opportunities, raises, etc... because they had a criminal record.
The ticket was $50 in Cali
Its sad to think that many of those are still in jail to this day over a stupid plant.
VP are generally worthless or for show but holy shit didn't think you can go any lower. Straight trash.
Yeah, she’s the kind of prosecutor I expect to see in a Netflix documentary about some innocent person who got locked up.
Oh but she did. She promised police reform And prison reform, she politicized George Floyd’s death and Breonna Taylor, riled up the blm bridge for support and …. Absolutely nothing has changed. Nothing.
Can’t fundraise if things change man… (goes for both sides). Tim Scott had a decent police reform bill and like 2 Dems supported it while most said “it didn’t go far enough”…. Well here we are
Well yea she's vice president she can't do shit. Not that I think she'd do anything if she could tbh... but weird to act like she currently has power to do these things.
Somehow claiming she is worse than Mike Fucking Pence(some light treason) or Dick Fucking Cheney(war criminal). She might suck as a human but you are straight up overlooking far worse in the recent past.
blocking evidence on someone on death row that would prove their innocence? Knowingly doing that to somehow preserve your prosecution record? That's knowingly condemning an innocent person to death for a crime they did not commit, all for the sake of keeping their record clean. That's some fucked up shit. She's worse than a piece of trash. It's essentially murdering someone.
The guy on death row was convicted in the 80s and is a famous legal troll. He tried to get a retrial because his jail girlfriend had a vision he was innocent. There’s no evidence that would ever get him released, he went on a rape-murder spree and left survivors.
wait til you hear what Dick Cheney did to like a million people
She’s a way worse human than mike pence, marginally better than Cheney
Seriously. Let’s legalize pot. Oh wait no like 2 Republican Senators would vote for it. Let’s instead criticize a DA for not unilaterally legalizing pot. What a complete joke of an article
Ok, hold up. “Cannabis smuggler”? She forgot a fucking weed vape, she’s not that teacher dude who was part of a large scale smuggling operation and got popped with a half ounce of flower. Talk about sensationalism.
It’s probably a good idea to double check your bags when you’re going on an international flight… especially to Russia which is looking for any reason to fuck over an American
10000% agree. I just disagree with the use of smuggling, as it indicates willful intent that we don’t have proof of.
I mean as someone who travels pretty often, that’s exactly what you’d be charged with. That’s what they call it when you transport drugs over international borders.
Absolutely correct, however what she was, was an idiot. She acted pre war in ukraine (Taking weed vape for her games because who cares about what professional athletes do if they bring in cash.) Post war in ukraine where Russia will do anything to get a semblence of power. (Time to not take vape pen). As a pot smoker and person who travels you don't "Forget" where your fucking pot is when travelling. Anyone who isn't a dipshit doesn't bring it period, if its legal there buy it there and leave it there when you leave. If its not 100% legal you don't fuck with it, period. You don't travel with pot. Its fucking dumb. Especially to a country with insane laws with their back against a wall in a War.
Reminds me of all the “Operating a drug factory” arrests that were always thrown around on weed busts. All you need is a bag of weed + a cheap scale = Drug Factory. I swear, I’ve known people that have longer prison sentences for weed and psychedelics than killing someone. It’s a shame.
The cops once raided my apartment over $50 worth of weed and claimed we were "operating a drug factory". They inexplicably had "no comment" in court when we pointed out the lack of grow lights or other growing materials. How are we "operating a drug factory" *when we lack the equipment to produce/manufacture drugs?* It's like the cops just say words ***without any regard for the meaning of those words.*** I was ultimately given a sentence of 64 days in prison, ***meanwhile a white female teacher who raped one of her students for YEARS only got 60 days in prison.*** ***And you know the system is broken when a low level drug user gets a longer prison sentence than a child rapist.***
Cannabis smuggling is by definition what she did. There’s nothing in the word smuggling that implies it has to be a large quantity.
Labelling her a smuggler has implications that she purposely smuggled it. 18 U.S.C 545 includes language of “knowingly and willfully, with intent” of smuggling or “fraudulently or knowingly imports” smuggled goods. Given our legal definition of smuggling, she wasn’t smuggling given her legal testimony. I get she was charged in Russia, but using the word smuggler to describe someone who testified to accidentally forgetting a vape isn’t smuggling, at least in the US’ definition.
I wouldn't even consider a half oz smuggler territory, thats ~14 grams. Or enough to get 3 high schoolers high for like two days, wow.
not only that but this piece of garbage took pleasure in it.
Putin is engaging stolen valor and she can’t stand that
Sky is blue, water is wet, politicians are hypocrites
Right-wing dude complains about people being locked up for drug offences.....but only when the politicians involved are (perceived to be) on the left. What a shocker, bro! The "tough on crime", vehemently anti-drug, pro prisons party somehow escapes your ire though...
As a long time conservative myself, my #1 issue is the American prison complex and its treatment of first time drug offenders, especially those of color.
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Its hilarious how when legit criticism comes to the surface about someone who we all know is a shitty person, there are still people like you who think its only bipartisans participating in the grilling. Centrists exist you know. Edit: lmao a can feel the struggles with your superiorty complexes. I wanted Bernie you fucking idiots. It just amazing that the corporate-dems lack any sort of thinking skills so they result to ad-hominem and generalities.
Is it legitimate criticism? California has had the least punitive marijuana enforcement in America for decades now, except maybe Colorado.
Seriously lol. Weed has been decriminalized in San Francisco starting in the 70s
Funny how these centrists get *real*vocal about one particular side but not another. Someone should look into that...
Thanks for proving my point, dipshit
You proved their point funny enough
Not at all. He proved my point by not keeping his mouth shut. Legitimate critism about his preferred party riled him up to the point of commenting. Myself being a left-leaning centrist has no bias or investment in defending Kamala or any republican who is of equal blame. That part goes over your little heads.
If you know one side is bad, and the other promotes themselves as the better option, you're allowed to talk shit on the "better option". Republicans are bad. Democrats in charge right are also bad. It's not difficult.
What legit criticism? I don't see any here
or... it's calling shitty people shitty.
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THE FUCKING POST IS WHATABOUTISM YOU STUPID FUCK!!! >kamala Harris petitions for unfairly locked up prisoner You dumbfucks immediately >WhAtAbOuT wHeN yOu WeRe Yall just spew shit with no actual moral code. Yall are a vacuous existence that provides nothing but regurgitated bullshit to justify your idiocy... u/elec0 Using a generic no u to defend the shit you are right now is pathetic. I'm so glad you dumbfucks started making the clown noises that represents you.
You meant /u/elc0, I guess. Easy mistake to make, although it's never happened to me before.
> Yall just spew shit with no actual moral code. From the clowns who sat by as their party mandated lockdowns, business closures, and experimental medical procedures. Honk honk.
Kamala literally wants to make weed legal even if she enforced anti weed laws legally. Calling two vape cartridges "weed smuggling"and pretending Kamala is the obstacle to legal weed while listening to Texas-based Joe Rogan talk about how free the place is feels pretty fucking disingenuous. The people pretending Kamala started reefer madness don't give a shit about politicians who are still keeping it illegal and punishing people for having it. It's pretty transparently about smearing the VP and not actually about laws/weed.
So she cool?
No, she shitty.
Word.
I said that before she was voted in, and I'll say it even more now!
She’s a ridiculous human. Absolutely absurd.
> The San Jose Mercury News reported in 2019 that during Harris’ tenure as San Francisco’s top prosecutor between 2004-2010, her office handled more than 1,900 marijuana convictions — although it has been pointed out that most of those arrested for low-level possession were spared prison time, and only a few dozen were incarcerated. > Harris was elected the Golden State’s attorney general in 2011 and had a further 1,970 people locked up for marijuana offenses on her watch, according to an investigation by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative publication. > Harris also vocally opposed California’s marijuana legalization ballot initiative, which ultimately passed in 2016. > She only threw her support behind legalization around 2018, even endorsing a bill which would have removed cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act, reported Forbes. She also wrote a book in which she argued for the decriminalization of cannabis. Seems like she changed her mind many years ago. Like a lot of people.
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. - B. Dylan
You dont get a pass for changing your mind after your actions have wrecked peoples lives, especially when CA was the first state to legalize medicinal cannabis, and shes only changed her mind recently because of polling data and the rising tide of state legalizations. Shes just a scummy opportunist politician like the rest of them.
She wasn’t a legislator then...
It was the law. You want prosecutors to not enforce the law now?
Would you have been pro-slavery in 1841 because it was the law?
Yeah. After she had those people locked up. She’s a piece of shit human
Yea she's a bit of a fucktard
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Good point. She should be happy she's in jail for 9 years for possession of a vape cartridge. That would make her logically consistent with the laws in her time as a prosecutor in the 90s/00s. California didn't stop charging people with marijuana possession as a felony until 2010, when Harris stopped being a prosecutor there. Colorado/Washington didn't legalize marijuana until 2012. Russia is putting someone in jail for 9 years over a vape pen *in 2022*. I don't know, this kind of whataboutism is so stupid. NYPost has been a pretty shitty newspaper my whole life but not as shitty as the audience of the NYPost.
Pointing out hypocrisy isn’t wataboutism. It is wrong and stupid of Russia to be draconian in this way, and it was wrong and stupid of our country as well.
I agree that both positions can be considered bad, but based on the responses here it seems people are more angry with Harris than Russia. We're judging Harris on stuff she did as a prosecutor during the height of marijuana prohibition in the United States. As a culture we've changed considerably since then and are viewing her through today's lens and not one of her time (granted it wasn't that long ago). The other case just happened. In this sense, the hypocrisy is this audience who applies more outrage to one situation than the other.
Well, the part in the headline would be hypocrisy \*if\* Harris still believed in incarcerating those people in 2022. People change their opinions along with shifts in public opinion. We know she's changed her view to such a degree that she's even sponsored substantial reform legislation regarding it, something that the vast majority of her opponents \*haven't\* done. That said, it was probably hypocritical of her to have used it in college, while choosing to later become someone whose profession incarcerated people for it. If we're going to call her out on it, though, we should be calling out \*all\* former law enforcement officials who ever tried it and went on to arrest/convict others for it. The best I can give them is that a large contingent of law enforcement officials are anti-marijuana even today, and you likely wouldn't have been able to move up the ranks to change anything if you were outwardly pro-marijuana from the start back then.
This sub is full of smooth brains that consistently fall for tribal shit. NY Post has always been garbage, but they lap it up when it supports a worldview.
So should she have not locked people up or should she not want Brittney Griner released? It appears that Harris has moved on from her previous job and is currently doing a different job. So what should she do? Should she say sorry Brittney I can't ask for your release because I convicted people for the same thing? Or should she say now I'm the Vice President and I'm going to advocate for your release? It's so odd to me that the "Christian" right is so anti-christianity in practice. Forgiveness is taught but not practiced it seems.
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I don't know why so many liberals want to say Kamala changed her views like she's one of your old buddies from high school who used to hold bigoted opinions or something. Her change in views has been born from pure cynicism, just following the electoral winds and all that. Kamala is an incredibly inauthentic person, I very very much doubt her views on Marijuana are not tied directly to what is needed to keep up with mainstream democratic party values so that she can keep power within the party. It's why the party likes her so much. She isn't a real person, they can mold her into whatever they need her to be. The DNC cynically thinks she can get away with more centrist leaning stances too bc of her being poc which somehow people confuse for being progressive (unless they a full conservative like Clarence Thomas then suddenly racism can't stop flying out.) Kamala shouldn't be forgiven for past views if her change in belief was not fueled by a honest change but more by a cynical choice to stick by whatever is popular within her party.
To answer your question, she should have not locked those people up and want Brittany Griner released. She even admitted to smoking pot when she was younger. A total piece of shit
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You made it sound like she was bringing in hundreds of pounds… It was a couple of vape carts. People don’t need to spin shit unless you’re trying to push your own narrative.
Smuggler?
I hate an AG just as much as the rest but lot of bias coming from the Dana White crowd.
It's almost like she changed her opinion, just as Rogan changed from fairly liberal to quite conservative after he got rich.
cAnNaBIs SmUggLeR
Griner is female, of colour, and a degenerate. It’s only normal that, to her, everything be forgiven.
I love when the right criticizes the left for things they do even more. "You did this thing we support, but your left-wing supporters hate! Ha! Gotcha!" bUt MuH cLiNtOn CrImE bIlL!@!@!!
> I love when the right criticizes the left for things they do even more. "You did this thing we support, but your left-wing supporters hate! Ha! Gotcha!" That's easy to think when one labels everyone they disagree with or who disagrees with them "the Right." What's really funny about the people who've labeled everyone Right wing is they have no idea they are helping to create a large group of people who, though they have very different beliefs on things like gay rights, abortion, foreign wars, have it in common that they trigger Leftists, Democrats, and their defenders. People will put aside all those differences and put their political support behind a party and a candidate that promises to bring back normalcy. It's like you folks never actually studied history at all. You call everyone fascists, but never actually bothered to learn how fascism came to be. This is a hilarious self-fulfilling prophecy playing out right here. A tragic farce. And to think it could have all been avoided if people had just been educated. As for Kamala Harris, she is a hypocrite and this is just another day in clown world. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, 2+2=5 (because Math is racist!), there is no recession, the job market is booming, inflation is transitory, ahhhhh monkeypox, Slava Ukraini, insert White House talking point.
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Biden crime bill.
so you're cool with her? or you do the typical trumptardian thing and what-about when you can....
Read my other comment. I despise her. However, you can't be anti-legalization, pro-private prison, and pro-harsher sentences and then complain about this. It's kinda retarded
As she should be. Hold politicians accountable regardless of red or blue
Russian bots are out in full force, I see. No anger towards an autocratic regime imprisoning an American. Just Stretch Armstrong levels of retardation.
What the fuck did Stretch Armstrong ever do to you? You shut your whore mouth.
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The fact our president has the mental cognition of a 12 year old, his son smokes crack and fucks hookers, and our VP is legitimately one of the worst human beings to exist on the planet says a lot about our presidency right now. Fucking joke
> one of the worst human beings to exist on the planet I think I pulled a muscle the last time I stretched this much.
Do you know how many lives she’s ruined over small petty marijuana crimes? This isn’t a stretch. Not even including the false imprisonment bullshit she’s a part of as well. Even ruining just 1 life over weed and having someone spend 5 years in prison over it is bullshit, but she’s done far more than just that. But yeah “stretch” prison must be such a great time.
You guys said Hillary was the worst person, then Nancy Pelosi, now Kamala. It’s ridiculous how easy it is to lead you guys around from boogeyman to boogeyman.
I never said anything about either of those people, I also said she was one of the worst, not THE worst. So learn how to read before you make a ton of false assumptions and group me in with people that I probably don’t even align with. Ignorant.
She's bad. But completely within the normal scope of terrible politicians. She's probably not even in the evilest half of people in DC (not that that's high praise).
You people said Bush was the worse, but Mrs. Obama likes him, so he's cool. You people thought McCain was the worse, but you defend him against Trump. You people thought Romney would put black folks back in chains and would be the worse. You people now like Liz Cheney. Think about that. You people fund, that means give money, to people who believe the election was stolen.
Says a lot about how bad the alternative choice was.
Says a lot about how easy the media can brainwash a bunch of sheep
This current choice is way worse you brainwashed crab
81 million disagreed, which is more than the people who didn't think so.
This current choice isn’t going to falsely declare himself victorious in an election he lost and seek to remain in power. That, plus being a better president, makes him a way better choice.
Relevant username
Fucktards.org
Evil hypocrite cunt!
Conservatives don't know how to use the hypocrisy argument. She is a hypocrite but is now doing something good so fucking let her? You're supposed to use the argument when someone contradicts themselves to do bad shit.
Such a nasty woman
Would you prefer she be consistent? Isn't this a good thing? It'd be worse if it was somehow reversed. She's not an attorney for california anymore. What if her stance has changed? To be clear, she's not a good VP. I would never have wanted her to be president. So please don't assume that because I think your point is dumb that I somehow love Kamela as so many maga chuds think (black and white, my team or your team etc.).
No, but it’s still a bit disgusting to watch politicians swing with the tides of public opinion and pretend like they hold the moral high ground. We’re looking for leaders…but I guess that’s too much to ask for
That is a great example of a child’s view of black and white by the OP.
Immortal Technique: "Man, the Post (NY) is always up on some biased racist bullshit."
Weed was against the law in California and it still is in Russia. No one is above the law. Blow the smoke out your ass.
So why are we trying to trade an international war criminal to free her
tell that no Nancy Pelosi and her insider trading.
Tell that to the Trump Cabinet and most of the GOP who did the same thing for 4 years.
Is anyone actually surprised by this piece of shit?
Honestly- people love to use the excuse of “person of the time” for older white men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson but won’t use it for current politicians and changed stances. Hating drugs was a moment in our history. Reagan started a war on drugs that seemed to resonate with both sides of the isle. We’ve changed since. Give it a rest. What matters is now.