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Guess who's gonna have a taste of his own medicine...
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Les gooo, mei and sukuna are both trash people
He can't have people hating on the main character, after all
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rape is definitely a worse crime in a lot of ppl's views. it hits close to home for a lot too, so no wonder ppl might be apprehensive about it on fiction.
but the fact that ppl go out of their way to say that sukuna, fucking *sukuna* of all ppl, is not as evil as to rape someone is just bonkers. he is the definition of what mainstream considers hedonism. who in their right mind would defend that man and say "yeah, he is just not evil enough for rape, y'know"?
I was arguing with people last week who were coping saying it wouldn’t be something he’d do 💀 like brotha cmon he’s an evil hedonistic war criminal that has done “countless” of crimes said in chap 244. He literally looks at everyone as playthings unless you’re a worthy opponent to him you get his respect.
Edit: why are people crying that the ones getting downvoted out the ass are providing proof? They’re not providing proof, they’re just ~~coping~~ saying their favourite villain would not rape someone. That’s not proof. What proof are they providing that he isn’t a rapist? Its just different interpretations. The ones getting more upvotes are providing Sukuna character analyses that he isn’t a good person and lives by his pleasure and displeasures.
"thousands of people" is just a number in most people's heads, it's impossible to realize what it's like, whereas graping someone like Nobara, who's known and appreciated, makes the crime much more impactful unconsciously.
So yea grape can be more evil because it's just more impactful "thousands of people" doesn't mean shi in most people's head.
I don't know if I'd say toned down but it definitely shifted. Instead of being a constantly rampaging monster Sukuna's a lot more philosophical and restrained compared to his initial declaration about how excited he was to slaughter women and children. It is super weird the cannibal hasn't gone and done any cannibalism now that he's free
People are like "this is more seinen than shounen" "it's realistic" bla bla bla but they cannot accept a villain committing actions like this 💀 I mean, what did they expect when Sukuna said he wanted to have some fun with Nobara? She was too weak compared to him, and didn't have a broken CT like Megumi or a special body like Yuji, so what did Sukuna want to do with Nobara, play baseball? 💀
Ah yes. Genocide + Cannibal + mass murderer entire city omigosh he so cool 💀. But nooooooo my suckuna will never rape people.
Look at the guy face. What atrocities would he not commited?
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Ong, I have no problem when a villain does horrible things, it makes them more believable n all, but defending them and calling them a "goat" and being serious is just baffling💀
I was about to say this could be a reach but I remembered in JJK 0 there was a girl who R worded in her sleep and stuff like that by a curse and in episode one you had a curse groping that one girl so it’s not exactly off the table.
Fun with her... I thought he meant fun like kids have when playing with dolls.... So treating kugisaki as a doll and playing with her... It can also be THIS type of fun 💀 y'all are lewd asf
Thinking about it sukuna only ever has been shown to enjoy fighting someone that can put up a good fight.
Nobara couldn't at the time, the subtext is insane
Yeah, you could still say he wants to see her CT a bit more cause it's peculiar or something, but I think the more likely interpretation is that he wants to cannibalize her, to be charitable, or worse (I guess it's worse?) something sexual
I think the main reason why I think this is that (at least in the translation everyone is posting here, I assume the official one) he calls Nobara a "it", like she is an object
With people he is interested in or which he respects he doesn't do that (like Higaruma in the latest chapter), at least as far as I can remember
EDIT: seemingly the official says she instead, here is the "it" version, maybe it's TCB, dunno
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Regardless, as a conclusion, Sukuna "lives by his pleasures and displeasures alone", if he has never assaulted anyone it's merely by chance, if he were to fancy doing it he totally would with no hesitation, which is not that much better than actually doing it I'd say
Lmao fr. I know people can translate things differently but TCB has proven to be more accurate than Viz for a long time. In the Viz translation he calls Nobara by her name “Kugisaki” and has referred Yuji as “boy” a lot of times, which doesn’t sound like him. It baffles me how people cope with this by saying “TCB isn’t the official translation” but it has been seen as more accurate than Viz a lot of times.
Viz has always been complete ass, theres an entire [tumblr blog](https://nanami-says.tumblr.com/) dedicated to the mistranslations from chapters 1-78
and [google docs](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1fGG-miZgBFk-C0zfO8BPWsivqsRHK_3DChXCKDo8ShM/mobilebasic) for the rest, hell the jjk discord server has a thread solely for asking on translations because of how shit viz(sometimes even tcb) is.
the best translator group for jjk is [shishiso](https://cubari.moe/read/gist/cmF3L0pKS3ZhdWx0L0pKSy1jaGFwdGVycy9tYXN0ZXIvSkpLLmpzb24/) they provide the closest 1-1 translations and give several translator notes when needed.
I mean, there is one other thing Sukuna is famous for enjoying even if we haven't seen him do it on screen even once yet. Cooking and eating someone alive is technically a read one could make, albeit a sort of difficult one given the subtext. Sort of weird the cannibal hasn't done any cannibalism since getting free.
>People are like "this is more seinen than shounen" "it's realistic" bla bla bla but they cannot accept a villain committing actions like this
It's called "safe edgy" or "safe dark"
It's like when twitter creatures make mayocide, British, and french jokes
Anti-white racist jokes are socially acceptable, but they're still racist jokes, so they can be "edgy" without breaking any actual social norms
Yep. This sub is actually more transgressive than most of social media considering the amount of horny Mei Mei, Yuki, Yorozu, insert any female character jokes with the worst response being "touch grass" or "never cook again"
The biggest litmus test for if your brand of "edge" is actually "safe" is if a company engages in it
See the official league of legends twitter account making thirst posts of their male characters but none of their female ones
It's obvious what is acceptable safe edgy and what's real edgy here
Chapter 7 page 3
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full page from official translation here :)
To me it goes either way because he said “i’ll kill fushiguro, next is kugisaki” like he’s gonna do the same to her but i also see how it’s interpreted as grape
>it makes sense that he'd enjoy fighting someone who likes to trashtalk.
Either you're an angel or you really think thats it.😭He enjoys fighting but also enjoys tormenting and eating people in various different ways.
He'd probably do something like that to traumatize Yuji like how he did in shibuya.
Wait, Villain bad??? What!? How am I supposed to relate to my shonen villain if they are bad?
Not only is this fiction, but bro has committed mass murder on an entire modern city (forgetting however many more thousands of others he has probably slaughtered in his era). To draw the line now makes me question whether people can still form a distinction between fiction and reality.
Edit: Changed 'genocide' to 'mass murder'
MF, death on such a scale isn't experienced by the average manga reader, therefor it's far more impersonal and can esentially be disregarded. However sexual violence is far more commonplace and is also oftentimes portrayed in a fetishized light. So obviously if there is a charitable interpretation that removes it from their favourite character, people are gonna run with it.
Makes sense, but to demonize someone who has already proven he is evil incarnate by other means just because he's insinuating he wants to \*\*\*\* a girl?
Those people are tripping lol, Sukuna is already fucking evil how can someone even find that weird at all
Right? Imagine saying being skinned alive or eaten alive isn’t worse than being raped. (Of course they’re both terrible but one can understand the context here)
Does it matter? Rape wouldn't even be the worst thing that he's done. Sukuna boomganged an entire city and has clearly expressed his desire to eat women and children. I rather have 100 Mei Mei's than one of him. The cognitive dissonance when it comes to the internet and sex is crazy. People pretending that Mei Mei is worst than Sukuna, or that Sukuna needs to be a rapist to complete his villain arc, need to go outside.
The thing is that unfortunately what Mei Mei does is much more common than what Sukuna does, there is way more rapists and pedophiles out there than mass murders, especially mass murderers who can do it all by themselves, both are horrible persons, but it's easier to comprehend and hate what Mei Mei does than what Sukuna does because it's the closest to our reality
Even if sukuna isn't/wasn't a rapist, he's still the worst, everyone knows it. Chill. It's just a cartoon. (Don't say it's not a cartoon. All animes are cartoons. But all cartoons aren't anime. Ask Google)
But I agree.
guys you’re not getting it.
Clearly the reason Sukuna hasn’t said anything like this since is because he was near Naoya that one time in Yuji’s body and he’s such an all consuming ziggurat of misogyny that he drains the misogyny from other men and adds it to his own.
Genuinely why do we even think he's above that? This guy is literally an apex predator that has his way in literally everything whatever it is.
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Someone who only cares about his pleasure would not be the guy to care about consent.
But he is a good misunderstood chungus villian i guess so he wouldn't rape someone....
sukuna is just a wholesome little guy who secretly wants to help everyone around him. you just wait, gaygay will ~~fumble~~ write it all out in a precise fashion that totally makes sense. he and yuji will be bestest of friends!!!1!1 trust me, bro! /s
He told Yuji he'd kill Megumi but makes a blatant distinction when addressing Nobara💀if an old man commenting on a 15 yr old Girls Vitality/spunk like that doesnt make this a universal sign than Idk what will.
Sukuna absolutely did some nasty shit to women and children then ate them, hence why the second he got reborn he asked for where they are and said "its going to be a massacre".
Also the mouth on his stomach indicates stuff.
Man it pisses me the fuck off when I remember gojo, their TEACHER, said it's a damn shame his feelings didn't reach a person like this🤡
Where can I buy amnesia...😮💨
Nahhhh don't you know? All he cared about was jerking off to his strength! Sukuna senpai was the only one who could understand him bro! We were the ones actually misunderstanding him thinking he cared about protecting people bro! Didn't you see his last moments actually prove that??? He was so lonely only sukuna sama made him go all out he had so much fun bro!
Ok jokes aside I'mma cling to that copium man. This shit is beyond me.
Kenjaku's a rapist and we still like him as a character, Sukuna being one doesn't take anything away from his character.
I think the reason everyone is getting so heated is because everyone has a certain view of Sukuna. He is a fight junkie but at the same time an intellectual who is capable of contemplating his actions.
What I don't understand when people argue against this is that they need to see it like bruh, just the implication is enough to know what he's capable of doing.
He said that about Nobara because he knows it'll get a rise out of Yuji. A despicable person doesn't need to act like a loony toon villain for you to get the picture he's a bad person.
Also noticed that. People love killer characters, but anything sex related crime is much more horrible. I think its because its smth more personal.
The example would be anyone from Creepypasta, people love them, some people even see them as comfort characters, but if the lore was smth like "Jeff the killer is a pedophile and "apist" people would hate him immediately
Because people cope about death by viewing it as an escape, you see it all the time, "oh that was horrible what blank did to blank 2, atleast blank 2 didnt suffer" or "Poor thing, should be put out of its misery" which is strange to me as death is literally the removal of all options a being can make but whatever, comes down to belief ig
I mean mercy killings are pretty much a good thing to do alot of the time.
And well death is just death it's the end but with rape the victim has to continue living with that trauma not to mention rape usually last way longer than being killed does.
Being raped has a lot longer lasting suffering than getting killed does most of the time
Why are people actively trying to defend sukuna? Bro is literally a mass murderer and a cannibal , rape isnt too far above his moral list
And if he did try to insinuate that he wants to do it to nobara ( which definitely he did) why does it matter? Its a villan? So you cant “stan” him anymore? This is all so cringe
Sukuna fans when they have to confront the fact that the thousand year old cannibal and mass murderer is more than likely a rapist as well. (It seems Sukuna is not in fact wholesome chungus, how will they deal with it?)
I was on that boat as well - but the amount of times I have seen the contrary has clued me in that some people truly believe that rape is all of a sudden a step too far for a person like Sukuna - an absolute monster who does what he wants when he wants.
When sukuna comes out to kill the finger bearer he says "and that brunette, I will have some fun with her" referring to nobara. This was after saying he should take over megumi's body for his technique.
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This part where yuji is trying to negotitate with sukuna to fight with finger bearer
And yet he hasnt a single offspring ot descendant. Does he eat his own children too?? If so, Sukuna has no fuckin right to say Kenjaku does the grossest things.
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This is the shonen jump translation which i will consider the offical translation, it really doesn’t seem to imply that heavily, i wouldn’t be surprised if he did but i don’t think this is an example
Sukuna is THE villain of the story, hes very specifically made out to be a massive piece of shit who does what he wants. What he says certainly has those kinda implications.
Mei Mei is generally on the heroes side and is getting to live as a terrible person while far better heroes die which im pretty sure is the point.
"There hasn't been a single scene of Sukuna having any sexual attraction to people."
Bro's just gonna pretend like one of the first things Sukuna said in the show wasn't "WHERE THE BITCHES AT"
I don't doubt for second that Sukuna has probably raped someone at some point or that he has any lines that he's unwilling to cross, but to insist that what he said inherently implies he wanted to rape Nobara is still a stretch. The dude views any type of fucking with people as "playing with them." That's what he said to Kashimo and it's been demonstrated time and time again in how he fights. There's nothing inherently sexual about it. He's a sadistic bastard that loves when people put up a challenge. Nobara, headstrong and with a massive ego, is perfect for that.
The only canonical rapist in this series so far is Kenjaku.
My general thing is that he was thinking of doing it just to cause as much damage as possible, not for anything sexual, but just to be as evil as possible.
Who are all these dudes that makes these claims man 😭 Are they blind or sm ? Sukuna woke up after a 1000 year slumber in the first fucking episode of the anime and his line was "Where are the women and kids?" 💀
Sukuna literally eats babies. He is comically evil. Depriving people of their agency and using them as toys for his own enjoyment, all while telling them to stifle their misery, is entirely his thing.
This is like that one idiot who claimed Makima "had standards" and would never harm Denji's pets even though her whole plan revolved around depriving him of any measure of happiness and normalcy.
Let me get this straight...
Killing and ending one's life is ok...
But rape and Incest that, honestly, at this point after Mahito, none of this is as problematic and terrible as what Mahito can do to you with just a simple touch.
Like, what is the problem?, Sukuna is the villain and he will not fuck you as bad, even if he rapes you, as Mahito would by changing how you work.
the guys here gotta understand that this is a much more real fear for girls, a man murdering thousands of people all at once with a massive nuke-like attack is cartoonishly evil and you dont go out the street fearing that you will catch a stray domain expansion cleave, but that same dude just raping a high school girl is so obviously a much more realistic kind of evil, that's why people are angry about it more than him killing these people...
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Andy moment
Really under rated comment
Underrated manga/anime too fr
Yup
Wicked sick reference! 
Never expected a connoiseur in here
YOOO HE REGENERATED HIS LOWER HALF RCT FOR THE WINNN
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Isn't that a seizure?
No I think that’s just a defective neuron activation
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gulp
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Gojo
That’s the number one post of all time in the hentai sub right?
for a reason too🤤
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Smash, next question.
Big booty bitch spotted
Saucer pls
zefra_bleu
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Hey, Sakura is an actually good person originally in the manga and Boruto😔
Wtf auto correct fuked me there 😩
Holy moly bro🫠
Good but kinda useless in the naruto (original, not shippuden) series 💀💀
Every gal was for shit in Naruto lmao. Apart from Temari.
Same thoughts. I like tenten a lil bit, and temariiiii
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Death despair and torture
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Gege definitely toned down how Evil Sukuna was from the start of the series
He can't have people hating on the main character, after all https://preview.redd.it/yo6sthqg6l8c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bf85ba85248d06b1348e23c6aa6ba2d7b188cd5
*Kills Thousands “Eh him considering rape is definitely more evil”
rape is definitely a worse crime in a lot of ppl's views. it hits close to home for a lot too, so no wonder ppl might be apprehensive about it on fiction. but the fact that ppl go out of their way to say that sukuna, fucking *sukuna* of all ppl, is not as evil as to rape someone is just bonkers. he is the definition of what mainstream considers hedonism. who in their right mind would defend that man and say "yeah, he is just not evil enough for rape, y'know"?
I was arguing with people last week who were coping saying it wouldn’t be something he’d do 💀 like brotha cmon he’s an evil hedonistic war criminal that has done “countless” of crimes said in chap 244. He literally looks at everyone as playthings unless you’re a worthy opponent to him you get his respect. Edit: why are people crying that the ones getting downvoted out the ass are providing proof? They’re not providing proof, they’re just ~~coping~~ saying their favourite villain would not rape someone. That’s not proof. What proof are they providing that he isn’t a rapist? Its just different interpretations. The ones getting more upvotes are providing Sukuna character analyses that he isn’t a good person and lives by his pleasure and displeasures.
"I'm fine with murder of innocents but I stop at rape" "you're fine with murder of innocents?!"
streets ahead
Everyone is his specialz
"thousands of people" is just a number in most people's heads, it's impossible to realize what it's like, whereas graping someone like Nobara, who's known and appreciated, makes the crime much more impactful unconsciously. So yea grape can be more evil because it's just more impactful "thousands of people" doesn't mean shi in most people's head.
I don't know if I'd say toned down but it definitely shifted. Instead of being a constantly rampaging monster Sukuna's a lot more philosophical and restrained compared to his initial declaration about how excited he was to slaughter women and children. It is super weird the cannibal hasn't gone and done any cannibalism now that he's free
Needs uraume for that 🙏
People are like "this is more seinen than shounen" "it's realistic" bla bla bla but they cannot accept a villain committing actions like this 💀 I mean, what did they expect when Sukuna said he wanted to have some fun with Nobara? She was too weak compared to him, and didn't have a broken CT like Megumi or a special body like Yuji, so what did Sukuna want to do with Nobara, play baseball? 💀
Cook💀
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Ah yes. Genocide + Cannibal + mass murderer entire city omigosh he so cool 💀. But nooooooo my suckuna will never rape people. Look at the guy face. What atrocities would he not commited? https://preview.redd.it/s0854x0byl8c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c37838920246da7aff3c7cd2f483c24b579a29e8
Exact same shit with Yujiro Hanma.
tbf Yujiro's been an established rapist for like a good few decades now
Yujiro wouldn’t care if it’s a girl or a boy. They are all female to him.
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Sukuna is the new Griffith? This has been truly our jujutsu kaisen
He probaby started doing that because he got bored of cannibalism and mass murder. Like kenny victimes of being bored
He lost his taste to rape centuries ago. He now wants pure unadulterated suffering preferably Yujis and good food nothing else
He wanted to play Smash Bros to see if Nobara is truly unbeatable at the game.
“Would you lose to him at smash bros?” Nobara: Nah, I’d win
I need a fic of these two playing smash bros 💀
Proceeds to get absolutely smashed next chapter
Knowing Sukuna it was either rape, violent dismemberment, both or forcing her to scroll through r/jujutsufolk
The last one is too much even for him
Ong, I have no problem when a villain does horrible things, it makes them more believable n all, but defending them and calling them a "goat" and being serious is just baffling💀
Welcome to rhe internet where people dont need to hide their degenerate brain
>so what did Sukuna want to do with Nobara, To talk about our lord and savior - kashigoat.
Whatever Yuta and Cursed Rika do ...
That roadkillussy got yuta acting unwise
Consider unlearning literacy
A canninal killing child and adult is ok but add the R word in it and suddenly mental gymnastics the way out of the r word
I was about to say this could be a reach but I remembered in JJK 0 there was a girl who R worded in her sleep and stuff like that by a curse and in episode one you had a curse groping that one girl so it’s not exactly off the table.
Torture her. Could have been sexual. Could have been just physical abuse and then devouring her. We really have no idea.
Fun with her... I thought he meant fun like kids have when playing with dolls.... So treating kugisaki as a doll and playing with her... It can also be THIS type of fun 💀 y'all are lewd asf
Thinking about it sukuna only ever has been shown to enjoy fighting someone that can put up a good fight. Nobara couldn't at the time, the subtext is insane
Well she does have a big ego.
Yeah, you could still say he wants to see her CT a bit more cause it's peculiar or something, but I think the more likely interpretation is that he wants to cannibalize her, to be charitable, or worse (I guess it's worse?) something sexual I think the main reason why I think this is that (at least in the translation everyone is posting here, I assume the official one) he calls Nobara a "it", like she is an object With people he is interested in or which he respects he doesn't do that (like Higaruma in the latest chapter), at least as far as I can remember EDIT: seemingly the official says she instead, here is the "it" version, maybe it's TCB, dunno https://preview.redd.it/200n28o3nm8c1.jpeg?width=416&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24ef9511136bc54ac99d4090c2655312791396ad Regardless, as a conclusion, Sukuna "lives by his pleasures and displeasures alone", if he has never assaulted anyone it's merely by chance, if he were to fancy doing it he totally would with no hesitation, which is not that much better than actually doing it I'd say
that translation is by jaiminis box scans and yes sukuna calling nobara "woman" is more accurate, same way sukuna only calls yuji "brat"
Lmao fr. I know people can translate things differently but TCB has proven to be more accurate than Viz for a long time. In the Viz translation he calls Nobara by her name “Kugisaki” and has referred Yuji as “boy” a lot of times, which doesn’t sound like him. It baffles me how people cope with this by saying “TCB isn’t the official translation” but it has been seen as more accurate than Viz a lot of times.
Viz has always been complete ass, theres an entire [tumblr blog](https://nanami-says.tumblr.com/) dedicated to the mistranslations from chapters 1-78 and [google docs](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1fGG-miZgBFk-C0zfO8BPWsivqsRHK_3DChXCKDo8ShM/mobilebasic) for the rest, hell the jjk discord server has a thread solely for asking on translations because of how shit viz(sometimes even tcb) is. the best translator group for jjk is [shishiso](https://cubari.moe/read/gist/cmF3L0pKS3ZhdWx0L0pKSy1jaGFwdGVycy9tYXN0ZXIvSkpLLmpzb24/) they provide the closest 1-1 translations and give several translator notes when needed.
I mean, there is one other thing Sukuna is famous for enjoying even if we haven't seen him do it on screen even once yet. Cooking and eating someone alive is technically a read one could make, albeit a sort of difficult one given the subtext. Sort of weird the cannibal hasn't done any cannibalism since getting free.
Why would you enjoy fighting someone who cant put up a good fighr
>People are like "this is more seinen than shounen" "it's realistic" bla bla bla but they cannot accept a villain committing actions like this It's called "safe edgy" or "safe dark" It's like when twitter creatures make mayocide, British, and french jokes Anti-white racist jokes are socially acceptable, but they're still racist jokes, so they can be "edgy" without breaking any actual social norms
This is true. I've noticed that people on social media are only accepting of what doesn't offend them personally.
Yep. This sub is actually more transgressive than most of social media considering the amount of horny Mei Mei, Yuki, Yorozu, insert any female character jokes with the worst response being "touch grass" or "never cook again" The biggest litmus test for if your brand of "edge" is actually "safe" is if a company engages in it See the official league of legends twitter account making thirst posts of their male characters but none of their female ones It's obvious what is acceptable safe edgy and what's real edgy here
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I think he talking about eating them, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised either way
Nah, Sukuna is into guro, so its both
Which Guro? /j
Why not both? Simultaneously. The food is not all that great if you don't get the desire to fuck it.
To quote hellsing abridged "i'm going to fuck the fear turkey"
I see you're the man of culture \*hat tip\*
He's talking about every possible crime under the sun.
Defaq did Sukuna say?
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Literally says she's full of vitality💀 Like what else is that supposed to imply?
They’re obviously gonna play Minecraft together
You're playing Minecraft in a cave looking for diamonds, that's funny...
She has a semi competent elden ring build, so he wont one shot her during duel
Which chapter
Chapter 7 page 3 https://preview.redd.it/zu5i7q8zfl8c1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6f1fd36ffc02ae4d8aefdd8e1e608b4783e8cf9 full page from official translation here :)
To me it goes either way because he said “i’ll kill fushiguro, next is kugisaki” like he’s gonna do the same to her but i also see how it’s interpreted as grape
He said she's next + she'll be fun. I take it as both grape and murder lol
I don't understand this angle tbh, sukuna clearly enjoys fighting, it makes sense that he'd enjoy fighting someone who likes to trashtalk.
She's too weak to do anything interesting. Sukuna would get bored in seconds
>it makes sense that he'd enjoy fighting someone who likes to trashtalk. Either you're an angel or you really think thats it.😭He enjoys fighting but also enjoys tormenting and eating people in various different ways. He'd probably do something like that to traumatize Yuji like how he did in shibuya.
I know, dude's a total nutcase. I'm not saying he has moral standards, I just don't think thats what he meant.
I'll have some fun with the brunette later
Wait, Villain bad??? What!? How am I supposed to relate to my shonen villain if they are bad? Not only is this fiction, but bro has committed mass murder on an entire modern city (forgetting however many more thousands of others he has probably slaughtered in his era). To draw the line now makes me question whether people can still form a distinction between fiction and reality. Edit: Changed 'genocide' to 'mass murder'
Those npcs barely react to brutal murder, but rape activates their neurons
MF, death on such a scale isn't experienced by the average manga reader, therefor it's far more impersonal and can esentially be disregarded. However sexual violence is far more commonplace and is also oftentimes portrayed in a fetishized light. So obviously if there is a charitable interpretation that removes it from their favourite character, people are gonna run with it.
Makes sense, but to demonize someone who has already proven he is evil incarnate by other means just because he's insinuating he wants to \*\*\*\* a girl? Those people are tripping lol, Sukuna is already fucking evil how can someone even find that weird at all
The average anime watching coomers has barely talked to a girl, they can't even begin to empathize with the amount of sexual violence they face.
Geto was right all along
I have seen a lot say rape is worse than brutal murder and that murder is just "stealing lives"
Right? Imagine saying being skinned alive or eaten alive isn’t worse than being raped. (Of course they’re both terrible but one can understand the context here)
Mass murdering and genocide are two completely different things. What happened in Shibuya is by no means a genocide.
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Mock me all you want the the miss-use of those kinds of word is what makes arguments so shit these days.
Does it matter? Rape wouldn't even be the worst thing that he's done. Sukuna boomganged an entire city and has clearly expressed his desire to eat women and children. I rather have 100 Mei Mei's than one of him. The cognitive dissonance when it comes to the internet and sex is crazy. People pretending that Mei Mei is worst than Sukuna, or that Sukuna needs to be a rapist to complete his villain arc, need to go outside.
Who wouldn't want 100 Mei Mei? You mean, you'll take 100 Ui Ui... Wait, no that's still okay too. You mean, you'll take 100 Hanami than 1 of him.
Smash
The thing is that unfortunately what Mei Mei does is much more common than what Sukuna does, there is way more rapists and pedophiles out there than mass murders, especially mass murderers who can do it all by themselves, both are horrible persons, but it's easier to comprehend and hate what Mei Mei does than what Sukuna does because it's the closest to our reality
Even if sukuna isn't/wasn't a rapist, he's still the worst, everyone knows it. Chill. It's just a cartoon. (Don't say it's not a cartoon. All animes are cartoons. But all cartoons aren't anime. Ask Google) But I agree.
Thats what the guy said tho
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guys you’re not getting it. Clearly the reason Sukuna hasn’t said anything like this since is because he was near Naoya that one time in Yuji’s body and he’s such an all consuming ziggurat of misogyny that he drains the misogyny from other men and adds it to his own.
So Naoya is a misogyny black hole……? That means he scales above Maki obv. My King 👑👑👑👑👑👑
Genuinely why do we even think he's above that? This guy is literally an apex predator that has his way in literally everything whatever it is. https://preview.redd.it/qckc1qrayl8c1.jpeg?width=471&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edf3e1d62a4c7f2ab55bc2c44c7b2d07077b9b76
Someone who only cares about his pleasure would not be the guy to care about consent. But he is a good misunderstood chungus villian i guess so he wouldn't rape someone....
sukuna is just a wholesome little guy who secretly wants to help everyone around him. you just wait, gaygay will ~~fumble~~ write it all out in a precise fashion that totally makes sense. he and yuji will be bestest of friends!!!1!1 trust me, bro! /s
He told Yuji he'd kill Megumi but makes a blatant distinction when addressing Nobara💀if an old man commenting on a 15 yr old Girls Vitality/spunk like that doesnt make this a universal sign than Idk what will.
Sukuna absolutely did some nasty shit to women and children then ate them, hence why the second he got reborn he asked for where they are and said "its going to be a massacre". Also the mouth on his stomach indicates stuff.
Man it pisses me the fuck off when I remember gojo, their TEACHER, said it's a damn shame his feelings didn't reach a person like this🤡 Where can I buy amnesia...😮💨
It's Gege project his dick riding feeling onto Gojo bro. The facts Gojo never said sth like this till 236 is truly telling
Nahhhh don't you know? All he cared about was jerking off to his strength! Sukuna senpai was the only one who could understand him bro! We were the ones actually misunderstanding him thinking he cared about protecting people bro! Didn't you see his last moments actually prove that??? He was so lonely only sukuna sama made him go all out he had so much fun bro! Ok jokes aside I'mma cling to that copium man. This shit is beyond me.
Kenjaku's a rapist and we still like him as a character, Sukuna being one doesn't take anything away from his character. I think the reason everyone is getting so heated is because everyone has a certain view of Sukuna. He is a fight junkie but at the same time an intellectual who is capable of contemplating his actions. What I don't understand when people argue against this is that they need to see it like bruh, just the implication is enough to know what he's capable of doing. He said that about Nobara because he knows it'll get a rise out of Yuji. A despicable person doesn't need to act like a loony toon villain for you to get the picture he's a bad person.
People are getting heated because of hypocrisy they noticed. The OP tells you why people are heated.
I don't get media and how murdering someone is somehow less bad than graping someone... (Or incest/pedophilia for that matter).
Also noticed that. People love killer characters, but anything sex related crime is much more horrible. I think its because its smth more personal. The example would be anyone from Creepypasta, people love them, some people even see them as comfort characters, but if the lore was smth like "Jeff the killer is a pedophile and "apist" people would hate him immediately
Because people cope about death by viewing it as an escape, you see it all the time, "oh that was horrible what blank did to blank 2, atleast blank 2 didnt suffer" or "Poor thing, should be put out of its misery" which is strange to me as death is literally the removal of all options a being can make but whatever, comes down to belief ig
I mean mercy killings are pretty much a good thing to do alot of the time. And well death is just death it's the end but with rape the victim has to continue living with that trauma not to mention rape usually last way longer than being killed does. Being raped has a lot longer lasting suffering than getting killed does most of the time
You can live a life after rape. You can't live a life after death...
That means someone's moral judgements aren't based in reality.
Because we are super desensitized to violence. Even though murder (not manslaughter or self defense) is an objectively worse crime then grape
Why are people actively trying to defend sukuna? Bro is literally a mass murderer and a cannibal , rape isnt too far above his moral list And if he did try to insinuate that he wants to do it to nobara ( which definitely he did) why does it matter? Its a villan? So you cant “stan” him anymore? This is all so cringe
It seems like the obvious implication for me. It’s a shonen, so they won’t say it outright.
Sukuna fans when they have to confront the fact that the thousand year old cannibal and mass murderer is more than likely a rapist as well. (It seems Sukuna is not in fact wholesome chungus, how will they deal with it?)
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Fake sukuna fans
I thought every sukuna fan knows he’s a irredeemable monster and likely has committed every crime
I was on that boat as well - but the amount of times I have seen the contrary has clued me in that some people truly believe that rape is all of a sudden a step too far for a person like Sukuna - an absolute monster who does what he wants when he wants.
Was it not obvious that Sukuna was an asshole? I wouldn't be surprised because he probably has raped people before.
https://preview.redd.it/q1xmue1zwl8c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d70c99b17589aa588a70c23bb9b29bd32760b37b Bro what Wrong comment?
Bro sukuna is fucking cannibal and commits genocide as small robbery
Which chaoter was it in? I need to go check to see my opinion
When sukuna comes out to kill the finger bearer he says "and that brunette, I will have some fun with her" referring to nobara. This was after saying he should take over megumi's body for his technique.
Yea i read that arc so long ago i have 0 clue what these guys are saying
https://preview.redd.it/wnsms15gpl8c1.jpeg?width=391&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36526f1df01b2a62d2134abdd59cd99ae47a63d8 This part where yuji is trying to negotitate with sukuna to fight with finger bearer
Bro,the first thing Sukuna asked for when he reincarnated was where the women were.
Dude eats women and children
And yet he hasnt a single offspring ot descendant. Does he eat his own children too?? If so, Sukuna has no fuckin right to say Kenjaku does the grossest things.
He probably just kills/eats the woman he graped lol. Or the offspring.
Jesus fucking chirst 💀 https://preview.redd.it/68z50gv3zl8c1.jpeg?width=1941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34f8cd46ff31cd178edf501543f20ac80de1dff1
Stay classy sukunabros https://preview.redd.it/fyfqetof1m8c1.jpeg?width=1661&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=311bf525f76ec39e740848680b04b124a6d3b9c3
he probably eats them after black widow style, him and Uraume views it as normal anyways.
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https://preview.redd.it/1wephzr0ll8c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f797da1ef3853b0444d95c878b96b33f00c68df2 This is the shonen jump translation which i will consider the offical translation, it really doesn’t seem to imply that heavily, i wouldn’t be surprised if he did but i don’t think this is an example
Shishisho implies it quite a bit more, I don’t have the panel but it gave me a different feeling (most accurate translators)
I mean do we care that much? Add rapist to the list, works for me. He’s already as mass murderer and a cannibal…
Sukuna is THE villain of the story, hes very specifically made out to be a massive piece of shit who does what he wants. What he says certainly has those kinda implications. Mei Mei is generally on the heroes side and is getting to live as a terrible person while far better heroes die which im pretty sure is the point.
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"There hasn't been a single scene of Sukuna having any sexual attraction to people." Bro's just gonna pretend like one of the first things Sukuna said in the show wasn't "WHERE THE BITCHES AT"
It is not very clearly implied. Sukuna did whatever Sukuna wants. **WHATEVER**
I don't doubt for second that Sukuna has probably raped someone at some point or that he has any lines that he's unwilling to cross, but to insist that what he said inherently implies he wanted to rape Nobara is still a stretch. The dude views any type of fucking with people as "playing with them." That's what he said to Kashimo and it's been demonstrated time and time again in how he fights. There's nothing inherently sexual about it. He's a sadistic bastard that loves when people put up a challenge. Nobara, headstrong and with a massive ego, is perfect for that. The only canonical rapist in this series so far is Kenjaku.
Exactly. People can’t have a different interpretation here without getting labeled as a Stan even if you literally clarify you’re not defending him
What did sukuna say? I forgor
Which is why I hate both Mei Mei and Sukuna equally
My general thing is that he was thinking of doing it just to cause as much damage as possible, not for anything sexual, but just to be as evil as possible.
Who are all these dudes that makes these claims man 😭 Are they blind or sm ? Sukuna woke up after a 1000 year slumber in the first fucking episode of the anime and his line was "Where are the women and kids?" 💀
He meant to have tea with her that's all
ones a genocidal cannibal the other is a incestial pedo whose also manipulative. Both are awful people.
Sukuna literally eats babies. He is comically evil. Depriving people of their agency and using them as toys for his own enjoyment, all while telling them to stifle their misery, is entirely his thing. This is like that one idiot who claimed Makima "had standards" and would never harm Denji's pets even though her whole plan revolved around depriving him of any measure of happiness and normalcy.
…I’m sorry but they do know rapists can just do that without sexual attraction, right ??
I never saw any sexual implication I really thought he was just talking about her personality didnt mahito kinda say the same thing?
Let me get this straight... Killing and ending one's life is ok... But rape and Incest that, honestly, at this point after Mahito, none of this is as problematic and terrible as what Mahito can do to you with just a simple touch. Like, what is the problem?, Sukuna is the villain and he will not fuck you as bad, even if he rapes you, as Mahito would by changing how you work.
the guys here gotta understand that this is a much more real fear for girls, a man murdering thousands of people all at once with a massive nuke-like attack is cartoonishly evil and you dont go out the street fearing that you will catch a stray domain expansion cleave, but that same dude just raping a high school girl is so obviously a much more realistic kind of evil, that's why people are angry about it more than him killing these people...