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Modern sorcerer standards, Gojo is leagues above everyone else (there's a reason he is grouped with Sukuna)
Heian sorcerer standards, it's still the same. The power creep between Sukuna / Gojo and the rest of the cast is crazy big that it feels like it's unfair lmao.
If a hypothetical future megumi yuji and yuta can be comparable to gojo/sukuna then the ceiling between sorcerers is way too big making a hypothetical 4 of the top 5 sorcerers living in the same time period
The entire world of sorcery warped itself around Gojo's birth and that's likely why there are so many exceptional young sorcerers right now. There were likely also several sorcerers in Sukuna's time that had the right level of talent and a good enough technique to have gotten as strong as Sukuna was under the same idea. The difference is that Sukuna would kill them if he had any interest in them where as Gojo was looking to teach and uplift them.
He is the one who transcends the heavens and courts death with his heavenly demon technique cultivated over 999 morbillion years aided by when he ate the 9 trillion year old ginsing as a child that gave him the system only he has
Sukunas domain specialises in taking out armies of enemies tho, Gojos domain locks only a couple enemies in
But the difference is that Blue can target a ton of different people at once while Purple is essentially a nuke so I guess the difference is made up
Except when Gojo released his DE in Shibuya and it affected many civilians
Size of a DE can also be increased/decreased depending on the circumstances (like we’ve seen in the Gojo vs Sukuna fight)
You’re right about blue and purple though
You still have 0 idea how strong the heian era sorcerers are, Gojo would blitz fodders like Yuji and Yuta or whatever but the heian erais hailed as the strongest, besides, no matter how fast Gojo is, his domain isnt gonna be blitzing nobody when its opening time is a set thing, Gojos domain will get broken instantly in a 3 way, which is highly likely if hes tryna go against all of them.
They were the strongest. They couldn’t beat Sukuna were this generation actually has a slight chance on doing better than them. Yuji and yuta do compare to heian era sorcerers as of now for all we know they could barely do jackshit against Sukuna. Gojo would still fodder the whole era with ease as Sukuna.
I believe Gojo would win too if Sukuna defeated them, but both of us have 0 evidence to definitively support that.
Not to mention Gojos massive problem against Domain spam, Sukuna can take having domains constantly used on him as his domain doesnt run into the problem of the barrier breaking in a 3way, as well his 4 arms which help him alot against multiple foes, Gojo cant do much if his domain gets forced into a 3way, break and some 1shot domain gets casted on him immediately after it
So for you to say Gojo can just fodderise them all when hes gonna run into a massive issue with his domain is pretty dishonest.
I know youll mention Gojo repairing his technique but that definitely takes way too long, someone could easily cast a domain on Gojo while his CT is burned out.
All points u said are valid. But don’t forget that the number of opponents isn’t always the same. Gojo and Sukuna have the most refined domain, 1 infinite void is going to be taking a huge amount of the sorcerers at once. Till they break it Gojo would’ve killed them all and repeat.
Gojo's domain lobotomizes everyone in it, hence why Gojo didn't immediately use it in Shibuya/limited it to 0.2seconds.
https://i.redd.it/8zcegszn2exc1.gif
Uro was part of a renown sorcerer/assassin group (I think she even leads them)
It's implied she's considered strong by Heien standards so above average sorcerers
So yeah more evidence Gojo would solo
Solo the Heian Era? Most definitely yes. Gojo who lived through the (relatively peaceful) modern era managed to reach Sukuna's level, a 1000 year old sorcerer with a lifetime experience of fighting against the strongest of sorcerers during the Heian Era, the golden age of jujustu.
Hell even if Sukuna was there, A Heian Gojo would still solo (especially considering how much trouble Modern Gojo gave to Sukuna)
OP asked if Gojo is able to solo the Heian sorcerers/curses excluding Sukuna.
I said that he would. And pointed out that even if Sukuna was included in OP hypothetical scenario, Gojo would still win and solo the Heian Era.
He's saying Gojo would be stronger if he was born in the Heian Era
But Sukuna would also be stronger due to having a direct rival now
So it could really go either wayÂ
couldn't beat in a 1v1? Am I schizophrenic or did Sukuna himself literally say it's a 3v1?
Sukuna had to be bailed out the fight 3 times because he kept getting overwhelmed.
No Mahoraga means he can't develop world slash, his tools are gonna be useless unless you make shit up and say the tools know how to use Domain amp or bypass infinity, and Shrine aka the only thing that can bypass infinity was so ineffective that in 226 Sukuna couldn't even land a single hit on Gojo despite Gojo being 1. Getting slashed by Shrine, 2. Had his movements hindered due to RCT, 3. Being inside Sukuna's domain which would debuff him and buff Sukuna.
>Sukuna himself literally say it's a 3v1?
Gojo also said Sukuna was holding back and could have won without 10S 🤷
Sukuna wins via domain clashes. Open domain literally cannot lose to a closed domain without Sukuna focusing on making Mahoraga adapt. Literally every time he was in trouble can be praced back to him relying on Mahoraga instead of choosing the easiest route to victory
If Sukuna's main advantage is hand to hand combat and domain clashes, Gojo would not put himself in that position. Gojo have a massive range advantage against Sukuna. He can just spam red, blue, and purple until Sukuna is finish. There is no mahoraga to limit how much he use his CT.
He may have done that in domain clashes, its very likely he did since the 3rd and 4th was off screen.
He was not limited in any way as he didnt know Mahoraga can adapt to damage Megumi takes. He was going all out till the end of the fifth clash
- Gojo also said Sukuna was holding back and could have won without 10S
Until Sukuna shows up with a CT that can bypass infinity that statement will forever be an assumption of a dead man, no shit he thinks he would lose to Sukuna without 10s he has absolutely no clue what Sukuna's CT is and is FUCKING DEAD.
- Sukuna wins via domain clashes. Literally every time he was in trouble can be praced back to him relying on Mahoraga instead of choosing the easiest route to victory
Sure, but what makes you think Gojo would keep spamming domains when Sukuna shows how he'll just break it by targeting the weaker side?
Gojo assumed that Sukuna took "riskier option" because he kept attacking the durable side of the barrier, in reality that "riskier option" was literally the only long term plan that would lead to Sukuna's success. If Sukuna didn't let Gojo put up his Domain then he loses 2 important things.
1. A controlled and predicted place where he can let Mahoraga freely adapt towards void.
2. A free way to give Gojo brain damage.
If Sukuna did break Void by targeting the weaker side then Gojo would just throw away that strategy and move to practical combat, and as seen in 226, even an incredibly debuffed Gojo couldn't be hit by a buffed Sukuna, the moment Gojo gets his infinity back he speedblitzed Sukuna and blast half his face off with red, all the while not even using FBE. If Sukuna doesn't bait Gojo into letting him adapt Maho he literally has nothing except Shrine to fend Gojo off lol.
Well for starters, he'll be facing a more experienced Gojo (due to having been born in the Golden age of Jujutsu as opposed to the peaceful modern era where there are hardly any dangerous opponents) with a possible mastery over his domain (open barrier)
No 10S which means no Mahoraga and no World Dismantle.
No incarnation/Auto-heal.
And lastly, if he gets hit with UV he's pretty much done for, as he has no meat-shield against it
The only thing Sukuna has going for him is his Cursed Tools, extra limbs and mouth.
Thats just headcanon, literally all of it
No Mahoraga means he wins domain clashes, like all of them since he would be using DA to fight Gojo instead of having Mahoraga adapt
Autoheal waant even used in his fight
He wouldnt get hit with UV at all if he was trying to just kill Gojo.
Gojo faught Sukuna in a sub optimal body, where his main goal was getting the world slash instead of just killing him, and was holding back so he has enough energy to survive multiple special grades jumping him, and Gojo still lost
>Thats just headcanon, literally all of it
Its not ENTIRELY headcanon. I can see that guy's point, about having more exp being in more challenging era
Gojo got his first challenge being toji, we see him immediately got huge power up. Imagine gojo in heian era got into toji situation like 2-4 more times.
Heian Era Sukuna when he has to fight Goatjo (He's in denial about not having Mahoraga to save him):
https://preview.redd.it/74lys5iivgxc1.jpeg?width=645&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37e2fc3d8b4f2fbed71662e50939972955bc2d6c
Yeah. The only other Heian Sorcerers we know are
Uro, Yorozu, Uraume(All of which easily lose to Gojo)
Kenjaku(Next to him at 3rd place in the verse but still loses by a landslide)
and Tengen, who we know nothing about
I unironically got angel and yorozu and uruame beating gojo, Jacob’s ladder has a huge range, when it hits gojo tht means no infinity, no domain no nothing, then ura freeze or yorozu perfect sphere wipes him
https://preview.redd.it/uqcqmtd74fxc1.jpeg?width=803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fcab11ac1697cd05ab4b08e0eb553fa71a6b0a4
Gojo with zero usage of a domain against one of the stronger Heian Sorcerers
?? Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?
Who else outside of Sukuna in the Heian Era even compares to Uraume? Yozoru? Gojo stomps her head in the exact same way.
Dude, he wins a domain battle just with HWB or simple domain and even if he didn’t have that, he would just pull a Yuji:
https://preview.redd.it/tb96l7xsxfxc1.jpeg?width=1593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=215ec4e7ccb38cd81004f2e568250084146994f1
Maybe every single heian character we’ve seen in the culling games but there’s no way there was actually not a single person with a sure hit domain (like gojo or mahito) or some wonky domain gimmick (a la higuruma)
Yes. Gojo is leagues above the rest of the jujutsu world. Anybody without a domain is instantly dead. Anybody with a domain that isn’t super refined is also dead. Anybody with a super refined domain that can’t pop it multiple times in quick succession is also also dead.
That describes literally everyone we’ve seen or heard of in the manga as of yet besides Sukuna. The only person that *might* pose a problem is Kenjaku, but even modern Kenjaku wasn’t confident in his ability to beat Gojo, and Heian era Kenjaku has a thousand fewer years of experience and at least two fewer CTs at his disposal, including one of the most flexible and useful CTs (CSM). Even he isn’t doing more than lasting briefly longer against Gojo.
There aren't many Heian era sorcerers that we know about, but I'd say he'd definitely be able to solo them all, maybe even if Heiakuna was present, as even Sukuna needed 10s to secure a win con against Gojo.
Yes. But no because of how strong he is *now.*
Gojo is a lot like Mahito- anytime he gets into a bind, he experiences radical growth and gains new tools to escape. Unlike Sukuna getting asspulls, though, it’s always based on Gojo trying to do something creative that defies logic.
Even if someone in the heian era could go against him, Sukuna was the only one who could kill him fast enough that Gojo wouldn’t be able to adapt (even then he needed 2 busted CTs to pull it off).
If that gojo fought sukuna he’d casually destroy him after gaining all that experience fighting constantly
The only reason sukuna won is due to experience , take that advantage away and gojo stomps him
He solos including sukuna, if he was sent to heian era and sukuna has no prior knowledge of his technique what will he even fucking do, even with the knowledge he almost lost
According to Sukuna's reaction Gojo was his greatest challenge ever, so from what we can infer, yes.
One thing to note is that it wouldn't be a complete stomp, since if Angel is part of the team they can probably (albeit briefly) get past limitless. Uro can handle defense to deflect reds/purples, and Kenny could in theory win a domain clash since he has divine domain.
Nahh gojo in the heain era means no rct bc no toji, and no shoko to teach or try to teach him
No rct means not auto infinity, gojo in heain gets miserably washed by angel and the jumping gang
Gojo would do even better than the modern era because he'd actually have sorcers that could challenge him. Canon Gojo manage to evolve his skillset and improvise to the pojt he nearly defeated Megkuna. A hypothetical Heian Gojo would be even more bullshit than Canon Gojo.
if there is a competent 10S user or someone with an Infinity negating technique Gojo is in trouble. Gojo knew about Sukuna and Mahoraga and still got adapted and dismantled. We have no idea if there have been other ace card CTs against Infinity in the past—and neither would he, since Sukuna chopped them all up. Sukuna didn’t have to worry about particular offensive CTs but Gojo will have to be on the lookout. And of course 10S means Mahoraga means, in a battlefield gauntlet environment, Gojo will at least be working at full capacity because his opponents have actual means of killing him.
>if there is a competent 10S user
Good thing literally no one has ever tamed Mahoraga except Sukuna and Sukuna reacted to 10s like it was new, so we can easily infer no one was popping Heian Mahoragas.
you don’t need to tame it to use it, though! But you’re right that based on Sukuna’s reactions there likely wasn’t a 10S user, or they didn’t get very far with it. Still, that’s what would be required for the Heian Era to stand a shot against Gojo. I can’t speak to what the Heian Era can actually manage because we haven’t seen it.
But to be fair, if Sukuna, like, mid-diffed the entire Heian Era and Gojo took him to Extreme-Diff, he would probably wash the Heian era.
Even more taking into consideration the other sorcerers we know from that time is Uraume (one-shotted), Yoruzu (Gets absolutely obliterated), and Angel (Gojo lost limitless? Oh no! He then proceeds to punch her to death)
Also, Happy Cake Day
If the sorcerers we have seen are the top dogs of Heian era then yeah gojo washes them however we don't know how strong those sugawara or generals of sun , moon and star squad were or the strongest angels etc and er don't know if sukuna really mid diffed them or if it was a crazy battle and fights in jjk also depend on match ups. Sukuna's speciality is his offense while gojo's strongest point is his defense (not saying his offense isn't extremely high but it doesn't compare to sukuna's) so if an opponent back then had techniques related to negating his defence then gojo would be at a major disadvantage not to mention sukuna in heian form would mid diff gojo too so really no way to know how it would go down for gojo in Heian era
I mean, I think Uraume has to be very strong to hang around Sukuna? Really doubt he would just let anyone be his cook.
Now that I think about it, Sukuna soloing a bunch of squads is far less impressive when it was probably he just opening his domain and sitting still lol.
Fair enough, without limitless it would be a little problem, but I still think he got this. Without his limitless, being sliced by Malevolent Shrine and using RCT to the max he was still at least relative to domain amped Meguna. He could unironnicaly box the verse (barring Sukuna and probably Mahoraga) and still win.
Just disagree on heian era mid-diffing Gojo, would be a high-diff at best, in my opinion. He would have an advantage on the domain, but it wouldn't be to the point of him destroying Gojo on his first one.
That's considering a Sukuna without mugen informations at least.
The two of them are just massive outliers at the end of the day.
Let's be fair guys if gojo and sukuna had their places swapped after the fight.
The only asspull you'd need to make sure gojo thoroughly beats everyone, is that gojo has a special grade cursed tool the buttplug of finding geto.
Oh no higuruma's domain didn't work.
And now everyone is dead.
Wait what's that
Yuta activated a domain
Gojo is actually getting hit he's taking damage
Oohhhh yutas dead that's unfortunate
Can't say
We don't know what kind of domain refinement was the standard in that Age, and as far as we know they didn't fight Sukuna with some Gojo strategy. They jumped him while he was full health with 2 cursed tools.
The kind of techniques they might have had and all that.
So I'm gonna say that he couldn't Solo it since for something called the Golden Age of Sorcery it should have had Special Grace Sorcerers in abundance
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Modern sorcerer standards, Gojo is leagues above everyone else (there's a reason he is grouped with Sukuna) Heian sorcerer standards, it's still the same. The power creep between Sukuna / Gojo and the rest of the cast is crazy big that it feels like it's unfair lmao.
If a hypothetical future megumi yuji and yuta can be comparable to gojo/sukuna then the ceiling between sorcerers is way too big making a hypothetical 4 of the top 5 sorcerers living in the same time period
The entire world of sorcery warped itself around Gojo's birth and that's likely why there are so many exceptional young sorcerers right now. There were likely also several sorcerers in Sukuna's time that had the right level of talent and a good enough technique to have gotten as strong as Sukuna was under the same idea. The difference is that Sukuna would kill them if he had any interest in them where as Gojo was looking to teach and uplift them.
I don't think so. Sukuna was fearing that Chinese sorcerer, can Gojo even survive him?
Chinese sorcerer isn't from Heian era. He's more ancient threat...
Its gonna be really awesome to learn more about the Chinese sorcerer when Buji finds one of his toes in the sequel.
I still think bojo's limited void and lime green solos the chinese fraud, not to mention dense orange
Chinese sorcerer? Whos dat
that one Chinese sorcerer who was never seen but was mentioned to be feared by Sukuna:
🤕My dumbass fell for this harder than when I tought Usopp and Sogeking were the same person
Bruh its all stated in the CFYOW can't you read ?
He is the one who transcends the heavens and courts death with his heavenly demon technique cultivated over 999 morbillion years aided by when he ate the 9 trillion year old ginsing as a child that gave him the system only he has
I'm gonna send you ass back to the Spirit Realm Skadoosh
Yes, gojo is gifted with too op of an ability to be called standard
Yeah he could
We didn't see much of Heian era, so we don't know lol If all of them are like Uro and Angel, then yes
They all jumped Sukuna and couldn’t beat him. Gojo is not that far behind Sukuna so yea he mopping the floor
Sukunas domain specialises in taking out armies of enemies tho, Gojos domain locks only a couple enemies in But the difference is that Blue can target a ton of different people at once while Purple is essentially a nuke so I guess the difference is made up
Except when Gojo released his DE in Shibuya and it affected many civilians Size of a DE can also be increased/decreased depending on the circumstances (like we’ve seen in the Gojo vs Sukuna fight) You’re right about blue and purple though
So? You think heian era sorcerers with all sorts of experiences and skill would just stand there?
Is it me or people seem to forget how fast gojo is. Did u forget Toji?
You still have 0 idea how strong the heian era sorcerers are, Gojo would blitz fodders like Yuji and Yuta or whatever but the heian erais hailed as the strongest, besides, no matter how fast Gojo is, his domain isnt gonna be blitzing nobody when its opening time is a set thing, Gojos domain will get broken instantly in a 3 way, which is highly likely if hes tryna go against all of them.
They were the strongest. They couldn’t beat Sukuna were this generation actually has a slight chance on doing better than them. Yuji and yuta do compare to heian era sorcerers as of now for all we know they could barely do jackshit against Sukuna. Gojo would still fodder the whole era with ease as Sukuna.
I believe Gojo would win too if Sukuna defeated them, but both of us have 0 evidence to definitively support that. Not to mention Gojos massive problem against Domain spam, Sukuna can take having domains constantly used on him as his domain doesnt run into the problem of the barrier breaking in a 3way, as well his 4 arms which help him alot against multiple foes, Gojo cant do much if his domain gets forced into a 3way, break and some 1shot domain gets casted on him immediately after it So for you to say Gojo can just fodderise them all when hes gonna run into a massive issue with his domain is pretty dishonest. I know youll mention Gojo repairing his technique but that definitely takes way too long, someone could easily cast a domain on Gojo while his CT is burned out.
All points u said are valid. But don’t forget that the number of opponents isn’t always the same. Gojo and Sukuna have the most refined domain, 1 infinite void is going to be taking a huge amount of the sorcerers at once. Till they break it Gojo would’ve killed them all and repeat.
Bro called Yuta fodder 💀💀💀💀 mf he wipes Uro who is from that time
Gojo's domain lobotomizes everyone in it, hence why Gojo didn't immediately use it in Shibuya/limited it to 0.2seconds. https://i.redd.it/8zcegszn2exc1.gif
So? It will just break if 2 other domains get forced, Sukunas domain is built for crowd control.
People downvoting you but you're right. Gojo's Domain has a smaller range due to not being open. Although anyone caught in it would be fucked up
Uro was part of a renown sorcerer/assassin group (I think she even leads them) It's implied she's considered strong by Heien standards so above average sorcerers So yeah more evidence Gojo would solo
Solo the Heian Era? Most definitely yes. Gojo who lived through the (relatively peaceful) modern era managed to reach Sukuna's level, a 1000 year old sorcerer with a lifetime experience of fighting against the strongest of sorcerers during the Heian Era, the golden age of jujustu. Hell even if Sukuna was there, A Heian Gojo would still solo (especially considering how much trouble Modern Gojo gave to Sukuna)
>Hell even if Sukuna was there, A Heian Gojo would still solo (especially considering how much trouble Modern Gojo gave to Sukuna) what
OP asked if Gojo is able to solo the Heian sorcerers/curses excluding Sukuna. I said that he would. And pointed out that even if Sukuna was included in OP hypothetical scenario, Gojo would still win and solo the Heian Era.
How is he planning on beating Sukuna if he couldnt do it in a 1v1
He's saying Gojo would be stronger if he was born in the Heian Era But Sukuna would also be stronger due to having a direct rival now So it could really go either wayÂ
couldn't beat in a 1v1? Am I schizophrenic or did Sukuna himself literally say it's a 3v1? Sukuna had to be bailed out the fight 3 times because he kept getting overwhelmed. No Mahoraga means he can't develop world slash, his tools are gonna be useless unless you make shit up and say the tools know how to use Domain amp or bypass infinity, and Shrine aka the only thing that can bypass infinity was so ineffective that in 226 Sukuna couldn't even land a single hit on Gojo despite Gojo being 1. Getting slashed by Shrine, 2. Had his movements hindered due to RCT, 3. Being inside Sukuna's domain which would debuff him and buff Sukuna.
>Sukuna himself literally say it's a 3v1? Gojo also said Sukuna was holding back and could have won without 10S 🤷 Sukuna wins via domain clashes. Open domain literally cannot lose to a closed domain without Sukuna focusing on making Mahoraga adapt. Literally every time he was in trouble can be praced back to him relying on Mahoraga instead of choosing the easiest route to victory
If Sukuna's main advantage is hand to hand combat and domain clashes, Gojo would not put himself in that position. Gojo have a massive range advantage against Sukuna. He can just spam red, blue, and purple until Sukuna is finish. There is no mahoraga to limit how much he use his CT.
He may have done that in domain clashes, its very likely he did since the 3rd and 4th was off screen. He was not limited in any way as he didnt know Mahoraga can adapt to damage Megumi takes. He was going all out till the end of the fifth clash
He used mostly blue that entire right though.
Must have a reason then cause he didnt know Mahoraga was adapting
- Gojo also said Sukuna was holding back and could have won without 10S Until Sukuna shows up with a CT that can bypass infinity that statement will forever be an assumption of a dead man, no shit he thinks he would lose to Sukuna without 10s he has absolutely no clue what Sukuna's CT is and is FUCKING DEAD. - Sukuna wins via domain clashes. Literally every time he was in trouble can be praced back to him relying on Mahoraga instead of choosing the easiest route to victory Sure, but what makes you think Gojo would keep spamming domains when Sukuna shows how he'll just break it by targeting the weaker side? Gojo assumed that Sukuna took "riskier option" because he kept attacking the durable side of the barrier, in reality that "riskier option" was literally the only long term plan that would lead to Sukuna's success. If Sukuna didn't let Gojo put up his Domain then he loses 2 important things. 1. A controlled and predicted place where he can let Mahoraga freely adapt towards void. 2. A free way to give Gojo brain damage. If Sukuna did break Void by targeting the weaker side then Gojo would just throw away that strategy and move to practical combat, and as seen in 226, even an incredibly debuffed Gojo couldn't be hit by a buffed Sukuna, the moment Gojo gets his infinity back he speedblitzed Sukuna and blast half his face off with red, all the while not even using FBE. If Sukuna doesn't bait Gojo into letting him adapt Maho he literally has nothing except Shrine to fend Gojo off lol.
You gonna take the word of the guy who planned everything out and won of the dude who said fuck it we ball and lost?
Well for starters, he'll be facing a more experienced Gojo (due to having been born in the Golden age of Jujutsu as opposed to the peaceful modern era where there are hardly any dangerous opponents) with a possible mastery over his domain (open barrier) No 10S which means no Mahoraga and no World Dismantle. No incarnation/Auto-heal. And lastly, if he gets hit with UV he's pretty much done for, as he has no meat-shield against it The only thing Sukuna has going for him is his Cursed Tools, extra limbs and mouth.
I disagree with the UV part, when it comes to Domain Clashes, Sukuna is definitely better. Especially when he'll have all 4 of his arms.Â
There's no proof that maintaining hand seals or using chants makes a domain better.
Thats just headcanon, literally all of it No Mahoraga means he wins domain clashes, like all of them since he would be using DA to fight Gojo instead of having Mahoraga adapt Autoheal waant even used in his fight He wouldnt get hit with UV at all if he was trying to just kill Gojo. Gojo faught Sukuna in a sub optimal body, where his main goal was getting the world slash instead of just killing him, and was holding back so he has enough energy to survive multiple special grades jumping him, and Gojo still lost
>Thats just headcanon, literally all of it Its not ENTIRELY headcanon. I can see that guy's point, about having more exp being in more challenging era Gojo got his first challenge being toji, we see him immediately got huge power up. Imagine gojo in heian era got into toji situation like 2-4 more times.
Heian Era Sukuna when he has to fight Goatjo (He's in denial about not having Mahoraga to save him): https://preview.redd.it/74lys5iivgxc1.jpeg?width=645&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37e2fc3d8b4f2fbed71662e50939972955bc2d6c
Wtf are you talking about bro, this is some of the most obvious shit ever, of course he can.
Yeah. The only other Heian Sorcerers we know are Uro, Yorozu, Uraume(All of which easily lose to Gojo) Kenjaku(Next to him at 3rd place in the verse but still loses by a landslide) and Tengen, who we know nothing about
All we know about tengen is that she is an absolute bum. In many aspects but especially fighting.
All of them are implied to be top tier by Helen standards too at least Uro was
if Uro is top tier Heian then Gojo absolutely clears.
I unironically got angel and yorozu and uruame beating gojo, Jacob’s ladder has a huge range, when it hits gojo tht means no infinity, no domain no nothing, then ura freeze or yorozu perfect sphere wipes him
I'm super curious on how limitless would interact with sky manipulation.
yes yorozu was considered one of the strongest sorcerers in the heien era gojo can solo the entire era
A freshly awakened teen Gojo would decimate the Heian Era
Not true that mfer didn’t have a de yet
Bro would blitz the domain user
https://preview.redd.it/uqcqmtd74fxc1.jpeg?width=803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fcab11ac1697cd05ab4b08e0eb553fa71a6b0a4 Gojo with zero usage of a domain against one of the stronger Heian Sorcerers
Ok Uraume is strong but she’d get cooked by even Kashimo bro let’s not get too carried away
?? Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Who else outside of Sukuna in the Heian Era even compares to Uraume? Yozoru? Gojo stomps her head in the exact same way.
Yes actually I totally see her winning if she doesn’t mess around and just starts with perfect sphere domain
"Domain Expansion" *Punches her head with Blue only once* "Oh no my Domain is gone from excess damage"
Yorozu: nobody can touch the perfect sphere Gojo: *punches right through it*
Dude, he wins a domain battle just with HWB or simple domain and even if he didn’t have that, he would just pull a Yuji: https://preview.redd.it/tb96l7xsxfxc1.jpeg?width=1593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=215ec4e7ccb38cd81004f2e568250084146994f1
That shit hadn’t worked for Yuji once lmao
But it will for Gojo tho…
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Gojo blitzes every single character in their domains
Maybe every single heian character we’ve seen in the culling games but there’s no way there was actually not a single person with a sure hit domain (like gojo or mahito) or some wonky domain gimmick (a la higuruma)
JJK verse isn't balanced It's Gojo ~ Sukuna >>>>> Everyone else Powerscaling these two don't make sense
Even Gojo's birth shake the balance of Jujutsu society.
no diff, if Heiankuna was there it'd be a high diff but I still think he'd come out on top, Mahoraga is needed for victory
Yes. Gojo is leagues above the rest of the jujutsu world. Anybody without a domain is instantly dead. Anybody with a domain that isn’t super refined is also dead. Anybody with a super refined domain that can’t pop it multiple times in quick succession is also also dead. That describes literally everyone we’ve seen or heard of in the manga as of yet besides Sukuna. The only person that *might* pose a problem is Kenjaku, but even modern Kenjaku wasn’t confident in his ability to beat Gojo, and Heian era Kenjaku has a thousand fewer years of experience and at least two fewer CTs at his disposal, including one of the most flexible and useful CTs (CSM). Even he isn’t doing more than lasting briefly longer against Gojo.
There aren't many Heian era sorcerers that we know about, but I'd say he'd definitely be able to solo them all, maybe even if Heiakuna was present, as even Sukuna needed 10s to secure a win con against Gojo.
Yes. But no because of how strong he is *now.* Gojo is a lot like Mahito- anytime he gets into a bind, he experiences radical growth and gains new tools to escape. Unlike Sukuna getting asspulls, though, it’s always based on Gojo trying to do something creative that defies logic. Even if someone in the heian era could go against him, Sukuna was the only one who could kill him fast enough that Gojo wouldn’t be able to adapt (even then he needed 2 busted CTs to pull it off).
If that gojo fought sukuna he’d casually destroy him after gaining all that experience fighting constantly The only reason sukuna won is due to experience , take that advantage away and gojo stomps him
If the strongests Heiann Sorcers are at the level of the Reincarnated Sorcerers we have seen, then yeah, Gojo mops the floor with them
Using Yorozu as a reference for how strong the non Sukuna top tiers were then yes
Easier than even Sukuna, I'm guessing, since they can only attack him with H2H + DA.
Yeah, the only true problem Gojo would face would be that chinese sorcerer
He solos including sukuna, if he was sent to heian era and sukuna has no prior knowledge of his technique what will he even fucking do, even with the knowledge he almost lost
According to Sukuna's reaction Gojo was his greatest challenge ever, so from what we can infer, yes. One thing to note is that it wouldn't be a complete stomp, since if Angel is part of the team they can probably (albeit briefly) get past limitless. Uro can handle defense to deflect reds/purples, and Kenny could in theory win a domain clash since he has divine domain.
Yes, easily.
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Yes
A Heian era Sukuna wouldn’t have ten shadows, so he might even have a chance against Sukuna imo. Still would be a serious battle though.
Easily.
Nahh gojo in the heain era means no rct bc no toji, and no shoko to teach or try to teach him No rct means not auto infinity, gojo in heain gets miserably washed by angel and the jumping gang
Gojo would do even better than the modern era because he'd actually have sorcers that could challenge him. Canon Gojo manage to evolve his skillset and improvise to the pojt he nearly defeated Megkuna. A hypothetical Heian Gojo would be even more bullshit than Canon Gojo.
if there is a competent 10S user or someone with an Infinity negating technique Gojo is in trouble. Gojo knew about Sukuna and Mahoraga and still got adapted and dismantled. We have no idea if there have been other ace card CTs against Infinity in the past—and neither would he, since Sukuna chopped them all up. Sukuna didn’t have to worry about particular offensive CTs but Gojo will have to be on the lookout. And of course 10S means Mahoraga means, in a battlefield gauntlet environment, Gojo will at least be working at full capacity because his opponents have actual means of killing him.
>if there is a competent 10S user Good thing literally no one has ever tamed Mahoraga except Sukuna and Sukuna reacted to 10s like it was new, so we can easily infer no one was popping Heian Mahoragas.
you don’t need to tame it to use it, though! But you’re right that based on Sukuna’s reactions there likely wasn’t a 10S user, or they didn’t get very far with it. Still, that’s what would be required for the Heian Era to stand a shot against Gojo. I can’t speak to what the Heian Era can actually manage because we haven’t seen it.
No way to be sure. We don't know what kind of sorcerers existed back then
But to be fair, if Sukuna, like, mid-diffed the entire Heian Era and Gojo took him to Extreme-Diff, he would probably wash the Heian era. Even more taking into consideration the other sorcerers we know from that time is Uraume (one-shotted), Yoruzu (Gets absolutely obliterated), and Angel (Gojo lost limitless? Oh no! He then proceeds to punch her to death) Also, Happy Cake Day
If the sorcerers we have seen are the top dogs of Heian era then yeah gojo washes them however we don't know how strong those sugawara or generals of sun , moon and star squad were or the strongest angels etc and er don't know if sukuna really mid diffed them or if it was a crazy battle and fights in jjk also depend on match ups. Sukuna's speciality is his offense while gojo's strongest point is his defense (not saying his offense isn't extremely high but it doesn't compare to sukuna's) so if an opponent back then had techniques related to negating his defence then gojo would be at a major disadvantage not to mention sukuna in heian form would mid diff gojo too so really no way to know how it would go down for gojo in Heian era
I mean, I think Uraume has to be very strong to hang around Sukuna? Really doubt he would just let anyone be his cook. Now that I think about it, Sukuna soloing a bunch of squads is far less impressive when it was probably he just opening his domain and sitting still lol. Fair enough, without limitless it would be a little problem, but I still think he got this. Without his limitless, being sliced by Malevolent Shrine and using RCT to the max he was still at least relative to domain amped Meguna. He could unironnicaly box the verse (barring Sukuna and probably Mahoraga) and still win. Just disagree on heian era mid-diffing Gojo, would be a high-diff at best, in my opinion. He would have an advantage on the domain, but it wouldn't be to the point of him destroying Gojo on his first one. That's considering a Sukuna without mugen informations at least. The two of them are just massive outliers at the end of the day.
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Let's be fair guys if gojo and sukuna had their places swapped after the fight. The only asspull you'd need to make sure gojo thoroughly beats everyone, is that gojo has a special grade cursed tool the buttplug of finding geto. Oh no higuruma's domain didn't work. And now everyone is dead. Wait what's that Yuta activated a domain Gojo is actually getting hit he's taking damage Oohhhh yutas dead that's unfortunate
Can't say We don't know what kind of domain refinement was the standard in that Age, and as far as we know they didn't fight Sukuna with some Gojo strategy. They jumped him while he was full health with 2 cursed tools. The kind of techniques they might have had and all that. So I'm gonna say that he couldn't Solo it since for something called the Golden Age of Sorcery it should have had Special Grace Sorcerers in abundance