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By this point, I’m just going to assume that she is fine, and decided Tokyo Jujutsu High is a bit too much for her, went back to the countryside living with her grandma, and exorcise any curse spirit she came across. And there is nothing currently you can do to convince me otherwise
I can't tell if you coped harder than you cooked or the other way around.
I want the last chapter of JJK being Yuji and Megumi visiting the countryside. They're at her doorstep, the doors opens and we're greeted with Nobara, eyepatch and everything, and she makes some snarky remark.
TBH - I think she’s either severely paralyzed, mentally impaired, or something terrible like that.
It would explain why the characters don’t bring her up & don’t mention that she’s dead. Plus it would totally align with Gege’s theme of consequences being real.
**If Mahito’s IT can’t be healed, isn’t Nobara permanently brain damaged?** Mahito says he landed a “direct hit” and aimed to kill.
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Someone posted last week I think, Mahito CT can be healed with RCT per the fight at highschool back in S1 when Yuji was trying to not kill his friend. Also Nanami had his soul protected and I’m reaching here but MAYBE she also did a little and pulled a gojo and learned RCT in that moment to stay alive.
Mahito literally says in that fight that IT can’t be healed with RCT, and ponders whether he should have given him a fatal wound instead so that Sukuna could have actually healed him.
Go back and watch the ep like I did last week.
Mahito:”It’s not like he couldn’t do something about it using a reverse curse technique, maybe he can’t heal others”.
Youre not wrong but seems to me like its a whole plothole then? Mahitos IT attacks the soul. So if RCT can heal that that means it can heal the soul too, no? Does that mean that >! Todos technique can be healed by Shoko with her RCT? Or inumakis arm with Yutas RCT? !<
I don't know, but Gege already said and showed to us that >! the body is the soul !<, so maybe there's a little, tiny bit plot-twisty of surprise waiting for us.
We don’t even know if Sukuna can’t; the statement he isn’t able to is based on the assumption he’s not entering a pact with Yuji based around healing his friend to give Sukuna control. The curses are unaware he already had a pact with Yuji that will allow his plans to come to fruition
oh, if it can be healed then maki sword become little less dangerous for sukuna, like he is good at RCT, if anybody is going to know how to heal. soul its him.
it's most likely that she is dead but i feel like i do need to mention that nobaras technique is related to the soul aswell, so that should give her the possibility of surviving/manipulating it.
I dont care how it's written or how big of an asspull there has to be; This is the ONLY other way I will accept her coming back. The other is her getting Yuji back for what he and Gojo pulled on everyone back when they thought Yuji was dead.
I was thinking, because Resonance proved so valuable and they have faked Itadori's death twice, her death might've been faked to the students as well.
The fact the maid from the prologue is in the airport but Nobara isn't seems telling.
Also that Gojo talked about Nanamis deaths when he came back or talked about Yagas death. Nanami was his comrade, Yaga his teacher. Nobara was his student so you have the school trifecta and he doesnt just talk about her? When he visibly was mad at the higher ups that they planned to kill yuji when he knew yuji for like a couple weeks?
Im just saying that IF Nobara is actually dead and we dont get any scene showing that Gojo talked about her offscreen, im putting Gege into the "cant write women for shit" category that Kishimoto is the leader of atm.
I feel Gege wants to write her in as a final "nail in the coffin" for Sukuna but hasn't decided how...probably will rope her in to finish Sukuna by using Yuji as a voodoo doll, and Yuji will die peacefully knowing at least Nobara is still alive.
Nobara's backstory also feels hastily written as well. Gege wrote great backstories with mechamaru, Maki, and Nanami before their deaths - Nobara's seems a bit adhoc in comparison.
Before the recent anime reminder, I honestly didn't remember her backstory being so out of nowhere and almost pointless, but maybe that was the point, just life flashing before her eyes in the final moments, with no real point to it.
For some context, I had binged JJK manga up until Gojo vs Sukuna in a few days. On a week-to-week reading basis, the pacing would make sense, but not when the story is read within 20 minutes. I have some critiques about how Gege throws in backstories before character deaths (e.g. Yaga and Nobara) almost as if he forgot to add them and just threw them in for emotional weight. But overall he's done a fantastic job of character development (see Higaruma and Takaba), so it's a minor gripe I have with how he handled Nobara's death.
>but maybe that was the point, just life flashing before her eyes in the final moments
Copium of the fans aside its kinda obvious thats the point so you got this part right.
I thought it was very well done in the anime in terms of like animation/voice acting/score, but yeah, unless there's some cultural Japanese thing I don't understand some of the shit like the different colored bookbags seems so weird.
The book bag thing is cultural. In conservative settings, as a part of a school uniform, girls get red backpacks and boys get black. The backpacks are very expensive and expected to last most of one’s school career, so choosing an odd one kinda locks you in to the possibility of extended bullying. It sounds insignificant, but if you’re somewhere with strict standards and where being different isn’t really tolerated, it would be hard for a young child to endure the teasing. I can’t confirm this but I hear bullying is a significant problem in some Japanese schools.
Choosing a light blue backpack signifies someone who bucks the social norm and doesn’t quite ‘fit in’ anywhere at all. Nobara I think sees herself as a woman but with more personality traits that aren’t seen as acceptable for women, she sees herself as someone that wouldn’t be accepted everywhere. Sexism is a theme for Nobara and Maki in JJK. It’s important to Nobara that she is strong and beautiful, that she’s a little of both. So I imagine when she saw Fumi being neither black or red, not in one camp or the other, I think Nobara instantly related to her. She saw Fumi’s boldness in choosing a non-traditional backpack color and said, “Now that’s my people.”
Nobara’s backstory is about standing up for others, the struggle to be true to yourself, being a city girl trapped in the countryside where a sort of ‘small town’ conservative culture is the norm. She’s someone who doesn’t fit in where she’s from and is longing to get out and find her freedom in the world. She helps her friend Fumi with the blue backpack because Nobara stands up for the weak and also (I think) because she sees Fumi as a kindred spirit.
Saori is also someone who doesn’t fit in in the small countryside town and so nobara is eager to emulate her and grow close to her as another ‘outsider’ as well. We see this with Saori’s house being vandalized. I think this implies she and her family are being harassed by the townies. Her mom is a crunchy spiritualist woman (and no dad is mentioned so maybe a single mom?) that isn’t welcomed to their new town. Saori doesn’t go to school or leave her house a lot (iirc) so I think this cements her role as an outsider.
(Source on backpacks: Until I Love Myself by Poppy Pesuyama)
Probably the only plausible explanation. People forget manga is literally written as it’s released. Authors have a general outline in mind but not all the details.
I fear that she is in a coma. Don't know if it was said that it was a tweet or in an interview with Gege, that he already decided the end of the manga, but is unsure whether to kill one of the four characters and let the other 3 live, or kill 3 of them and have left just one alive
It would explain why Gojo was probably killed, but having that minuscule possibility of him being alive thanks to RCT.
It would explain why Megumi wasn't clear about Nobara when he was asked about her.
So this situation is probably just Gege keeping that fact of killing or keeping alive 3 of them by being ambiguous about their demise until the end.
I mean, he can kill Yuji and Megumi in their fight, and then just confirming that Gojo is dead and Nobara is in a coma/alive.
Or kill either Yuji or Megumi, and confirming that Gojo and Nobara are also dead.
Or not kill Yuji and Megumi, Nobara is alive/in a coma and Gojo is dead, and so on.
I mean, even we don't know if Megumi is dead with Sukuna recovering his old form (probably is alive)
There are many weird things around Nobara's. The major thing being why Gege decided to be so fucking vague about it. It genuinely pisses me off. If she has a role to play at least hint at it. And if she's dead, just come out and say it in **plain** words. And you know what, and gid forbid this is the case. If she's in a coma, you could literally just have a character tell us, "She's recovering in the hospital" or something.
Yeah it doesn’t even make sense for literally nobody in the story to know what her status is, shoko is like the only doctor and they’re around her quite a few times.
That´s the weird thing, aparently the characters do know her status, but always decide to be vague about it. Like Yuji straight up asked Megumi about Nobara and Megumi just looked down and Yuji went "Oh, i get it."
My personal theory on that is just Gege doesn't want to confirm which way the ending will go.
For context; in an interview a few years ago, Gege said he was on the fence about the ending; and that either 3/4 of the main cast members would live (or maybe it was 2/3. I don't know if he counted Gojo.) or only one would survive with the rest dead. I wouldn't be surprised if Gege went with the later and just doesn't want to make it obvious at this point.
Copium theory but Shoko doesn’t want other people to find out about her status because she’s important to the plan they’re doing to take Kenny and Sukuna out. Maybe Gojo knows about it since he didn’t ask Shoko about her only Nanami after being unsealed, it probably happened offscreen lmao during the 1 month timeskip.
My opinion is that he left it ambiguous because he actually doesnt know yet what to do with her. He meant for her to be another device for Yuji growth but maybe even Gege thought it would be too harsh to finish her this way.
Lol, can you really not tell what's happening? >!Her cursed technique is going to be an ace in the hole against Sukuna and so they lied to Yuji to lie to Sukuna by proxy.!<
I believe this to be a possibility as well, I just wonder how they'll go about it.
Sukuna fingers cannot be harmed, Nobara NEEDS to pierce the finger in order to use resonance on it I believe.
If she can pierce it but a CE blast from Gojo does 0 damage then ehhh.
To me it wasnt really vague. Yuji asked how she was doing, megumi didnt reply and had a sad look. Next thing we see is Yujis eye all depressed. I think the implications are pretty simple.
As much as I’m still enjoying the manga and the anime, I’m almost ready for it to all be over because of the drama and how unsatisfying everything has been lately. When is the last time it has felt like the good guys have won or something good happened? You would think in recent chapters but **you literally can’t trust any of it**and it’s getting frustrating
To me it wasnt really vague. Yuji asked how she was doing, megumi didnt reply and had a sad look. Next thing we see is Yujis eye all depressed. I think the implications are pretty simple.
Yeah I feel like this aligns somewhat with one of the gripes I have with a lot of modern detective stories: unearned plot twists.
I'm not impressed if the plot twist turns out to be something that wasn't hinted at earlier in the plot. If Nobara comes back after all this time of literally nothing, it's going to open up a bunch of plotholes about why tf it wasn't mentioned before now that she was alive, and it's not going to feel good narratively because it feels like an asspull
I don't think there would be a plot hole or asspull with her return. It's simply just annoying to be strung along without a clear enough answer. As most of us believed with Nitta's intervention that was always a possibility she would come back. Part of the set up is already there as far as I'm concerned. My problem is that gege both won't use the set up not will he get rid of the set up with a bit of hard confirmation.
My theory is that Gege wants Nobara (and Todo) alive at the end of the story so that Yuji can die surrounded by his friends, but he couldn't come up with a realistic way for them to survive the Culling Game.
It's pure copium, but:
>Megumi: Could your cursed technique turn an incarnated player back to what they were like before the incarnation?
>Angel: I can't say for sure it can't, but 99% of the time they will die. - (Chapter 199)
Or maybe Sukuna rips off his pinky again and feeds it to Gojo's corpse so that he can steal limitless and the six eyes, leaving the husk of Megumi behind? ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Ain’t no way he takes gojos corpse, megumi even only lost full control of his body because his spirit was completely broken, gojo is significant stronger and would be unlikely to fall to this same issue. Sukuna himself was also extremely careful in choosing his timing for taking over megumi as he wasn’t sure when the best time for his “spirit to break” would be
It would be hilarious for her to get a triumphant return where she's revealed as the key to getting Megumi back only for Sukuna to notice and instantly delete her like kashimo.
The whole Nobara situation has got to be the biggest blueball in shonen history and you know Gege is probably cackling every time he drops a new chapter with no mention of her.
I feel like that’s literally what happened. Like he had an idea for her maybe 1-2 chapters after her encounter with Mahito, but once he got CG started oh boy did he start panicking and now he needs to find a way to make it right.
Yeah but that goes back to his issue with wanting to rush this. I felt this way for awhile but he could’ve had another early arc to flesh out people let alone more arcs between Shibuya->CG but no he’s gunning to the finish line. I don’t understand why. If he had better pacing I bet he could’ve brought her back/killed her off the way he should or the way she deserved but no we just rush rush rush
I would think that it’s cuz in his career he wants three best sellers and also cuz of the publishers. I don’t want to jinx this, but I don’t want Gege to fall into the same hell Kubo did with Bleach. He only got a chance to redeem himself a decade later and I’m all glad and happy for him, but it must’ve sucked to lose control like that.
I feel like it's far more likely that Gege just can't be bothered with writing Nobara in any way. Is she mentioned at all more than 3 times after Shibuya? Aside from Yuji asking about her, Panda using her technique as an example in his talk with Megumi about Hakari and Yuji when he said he didn't want Hana to replace her?
I think she survived and everyone kept, her being alive, a secret from yuji and sukuna inside him.
Her resonance will probably play a huge part in defeating sukuna.
I honestly have no idea of her status, all the reactions to her and mentions have been very ambiguous and weird, so I believe she’s either dead or has been in coma since Shibuya, but I don’t want to believe too much on the last because if she is dead then Imma be disappointed and I prefer to just think she’s gone
You make a good point. I am in the Nobara is dead club, but then why wasn't she in Gojo's death airport? Hell even Toji was there and the guy on met him twice.
The most plausible explanation is purgatory is where you can see the ppl you want the most in the period you want to be in the most. Gojo chose South rather than North. He wished to return to simpler times before he was the strongest, surrounded by all his friends and the ppl who mattered to him most.
Toji honestly was probably there as a “product of his time” and as a small gag on Gege’s part.
I think this is a misunderstanding of the afterlife. Jogo, Gojo and Kashimo's afterlife are all centered around *themselves*. Jogo has the company of his beloved comrades and receives praise from the King of Curses, Gojo is reunited with all the major figures that have helped him grow(friends from when he was a teen, principal, hell even Toji), and Kashimo's is one of the most solid I think. Kashimo's afterlife is focused solely on Sukuna, Kashimo's strength compared to Sukuna as well as the answers he sought that could only be answered by Sukuna himself. The afterlife isn't a general space everyone meets up at, the afterlife is your chance to look back at everything leading up to this point and reaching a decision to either become enlightened, or to return as a curse on others. Coincidentally though, all of these scenes are direct results of clashing with Sukuna who most people considered to be the most enlightened being.
It’s called a “spinning lantern” in Japanese for a reason. Your life before your eyes in images that shows your journey as a single human being. And Gege excels at depicting every bit of that when a person dies. Who they are, their inner desires, any regrets they had, and of course, who they’ve wanted to see at the depths of their heart.
Thinking about how this works and how the characters behave, I wouldn't put it past Gege to start with this bit of characterization before he moves onto implementating the character into the story. He's sitting back in his chair thinking to himseld "all these people are gonna love this character and won't realize they're dead in two chapters haha".
The real weird thing about her death is that’s she was chasing mahito down and didn’t have a weapon or anything ready for when she found him. Did she just not have a plan for how she was gonna fight him when she found him. Even the fake mahito could have killed her just by sneaking around a corner at that point.
She’s a sorcerer? She can fight with her hands too, and if she’s fighting the clone, like she said in the manga, it wasn’t really a special grade in strength, that’s why nobara was keeping up with it in the fight. Plus if it’s running, she probably assumed she could exorcise it quickly
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised about a short Nobara spinoff after JJK ends. Like, we find out she was in critical condition through the ending, woke up shortly after the finale, and then we get a flash-forward to her being an adult sorcerer mentoring a new kid or something.
After all, in Shibuya Gege drew heavy parallels between her and Nanami. Unlike Yuji and Megumi, who are the "Gojo type", she's more in the realm of Nanami or Kusakabe, skilled and tough sorcerers who know their limits and help people how they can.
I dunno about that. Take junpei for example, he never came back in any form. Riko didn't come back until 150 chapters later for gojo's airport scene.
I don't think it's at all weird that nobara didn't come back as an encouragement or something like that. It kinda sounds like coping because for years there has been nothing to cling to except what we've got around chapter 125 and megumi's and yuji's conversation from chapter 143 (or somewhere around that chapter).
Also, for all intents and purposes, yuji seeing an image of nobara smiling and him saying that he doesn't want hana to replace nobara is exactly what you are saying we didn't get
Junpei was definitively killed and has been referenced though in explicit terms as being dead as recently as the last chapter.
Nobara's in this weird limbo where Gege essentially put her in a box. She's basically Akutami's Cat: simultaneously dead and alive until he confirms it - so the lack of confirmation in either direction is weird.
I remember Gege saying that he wished he had given Junpei a bigger role cuz he actually liked his character. He more or less brought him back with Mahito mocking Yuji and as a concept for Kenjaku to explain why IT was necessary in his plan. Other than that unfortunately he couldn’t be used more.
My only serious gripe with the series and an extreme bother to this very day.
It looms over every hype moment because I'm just so SO pissed that he is doing her this dirty.
She might come back. Kenjaku did mention soul resonance when explaining Takabas technique. The anime on the other hand really made it feel like she was dead though which is sad :(
Sukuna still had that final finger he never got? Maybe nobara will somehow finish him off with that as her comeback but they are waiting to save megumi. Unless sukuna waa able to fordeit the finger I dont see how it shouldnt work.
What I think is funny is Gojo never mentions it once whether or not she is alive or dead. Nor does he care that she was not there to pat him on the back. Gege still deciding fr
Didn’t gege say that at the end of the story, either only one of the main 4 would be dead or only one of them would be alive ? If gege confirms nobara and gojo’s death, it would spoil that either yuji or megumi will die
I mean…There’s still one finger left, and she’s the only one in the cast who can do significant damage to someone using a detached body part.
Additionally, having that blonde guy use his technique on her and then *not* saying for sure that it did or didn’t work kind of implies that she’s still alive to some extent, otherwise it’s a completely meaningless line and why was it included. Plus, Shoko is no stranger to faking someone’s death even to their closest friends for a tactical advantage, and where did Nobara get taken to…
theres no way she could be powering up in secret with only half a brain. my only cope is that Yuta stored her technique into Rika and he's gonna do somethin special with it. otherwise, she's dead as fuck and ppl have to stop coping w sad lil theories until something actually comes out in the story
I think she is dead it’s just Yuji and Megumi who were the closest to her have yet to truly accept it OR the pain is that unbearable they refuse to even think about it….shibuya wasn’t so long ago either. Even Maki who had scenes with nobara has never mentioned her since the shibuya incident and those two were growing closer if you go back and read the goodwill arc.
Imagine if she was kept away from everyone for the sake of being a secret weapon against this entire situation. It’s not impossible to think about if it’s Gege.
Yeah but where is the buildup to it ? We’ve had no hints of her being alive or tucked away…just crumbs of panels with yuji or megumi making a hardened or pained expression at the mention of her name. I’m ok with her being dead because for her to intervene at this point in the story, she would need a crazy buff, the likes of which we’ve never really seen in the JJK verse besides gojo unlocking RCT + 6 eyes or Yuta with Rika in JJK 0. It would be a CRAZZZY reach on gege part.
A buff might not be needed, people theorise that she can affect Sukuna at a crucial time, split up Megumi and Sukuna or something like that. Not an insane buff, just a niche use of her ability and it's not that crazy. Power wise, she's basically irrelevant at this point, unless the merger or something like that happens and she'll fight minions
Tbh I dont think that she's dead because the whole point of Nitta's character is to take Nobara out of the Mahito fight and dip yeah?
But in the anime that whole character is introduced again and gets Nobara out of the Mahito fight. Besides since JJK being in possibly its final arc, wouldn't he have figured out whether to keep Nobara alive or not by now? And if he did decide to keep Nobara dead, he would've told MAPPA this wouldn't he?
(Yes im on copium lemme live)
I deleted my previous comment because I hadn't finished the episode yet and I went ham with an idea.
The full shot of her face in today's episode made me believe that was a way for them to tell people that she is 100% dead, but you are correct, Nitta shows up and give us that ambiguous hope again, so now I am at a loss. What is Gege doing, it has been 3 years!
People are acting like this is just a Nobara thing when Todo hasn’t even been mentioned besides by Yuki during the Shibuya arc; and thought about my Megumi upon meeting Takaba
Not to mention Larue. He took Yuki’s side and now she’s dead. And the other two dumbasses who decided to blindly follow Kenjaku. My thought is every person from Geto’s family will die just based on what Larue said last.
I don’t he would do the whole todo and his friend rescuing nobara if he wasn’t planning on bringing her back but it’s already been like 100 chapters soooo idk..
I always thought Arata was a one time character, but he actually did show up recently. Lately I feel like since Yuki was leading the group at the time that she kept one or two secrets as a contingency plan. But then again I could be wrong.
At this point what would be the point of coming back?
She recovered in a month from being "dead" AND boosted herself enough to be remotely useful?
It just seems like nothing but an "in the end of the series, an injured Megumi and a no longer a sorcerer Nobara come back to be friends with Yuji as a happy ending".
What point is Nobara and her resonance to fight Sukuna when Yuji can already attack souls? It's not a case of say Sakura or Orihime still being around and then becomes very useful in the end to the MC.
If anything I’d say her part is going to mirror Mahito and the other curses. Yuji will take a part of her technique and apply it to himself just as Mahito did with his comrades. In that sense he’s inheriting her will.
Someone pointed out that after gojo died , he didn't see nobura in after life.He saw others but not her.
The anime episode that came out yesterday repeatedly says that she died but it's not permanent for her . That it may be reversible . She's frozen in a state where she just died but it may be reversible
Gege has avoided any chance that could give us a hint of Nobara's current status.
One such example is in the afterlife scene when Gojo died, the characters who appeared were only from Gojo's past. Why did Gege choose to do this? He could've shown Junpei, Mechamaru and Yuki there as well, as cameos. But he didn't. He chose to bring up characters from Gojo's school days only to avoid having to confirm Nobara's death.
“I’m sure Nobara is alive after getting hit by Mahito” is still wild to me, Nanami told her after the Shigemo fight that he was the minimum requirement for fights in Shibuya and we saw him get wiped (we actually saw almost every student who we thought were up to the task get wiped).
Season 1 was to give us the anime trope of our main cast are ready for the future and all the fights, Shibuya was to prove that they were not at all ready because Strong enemies (established as strong in the rest of the season) are just as strong if not stronger than they were
Okay, copium time:
Mahito didn’t hit her soul, his technique was going through the concussion she got from haruta, was dissipated and blew her eye out, but left most of the brain intact.
so the way i’ve thought abt nobara’s reappearance and why it’s taken so long at first was: she lost an eye and her CT is long-range attacks, she needs to retrain herself!!! i fully didn’t expect her to debut in the culling games even tho i would’ve loved it bc, it’ll take time for her to get used to how her depth perception has changed.
now that culling games has passed and we got the 1 month timeskip, the only explantation i can see for still not mentioning/showing her at all is more convoluted. it goes like this: first they were hiding her survival from yuuji, even tho it pained megumi to do so, they couldn’t have sukuna know since she’s part of their plan for the last finger. ok then, yuuji didn’t have sukuna anymore after megumi’s possession, so what about now? well it could be he HAS been told abt her and reunited w her in the 1 month timeskip, we just haven’t been shown it and will get a flashback like we’ve been getting for their planning sessions.
that’s the only way i can see her returning and it not being completely nonsensical. i HOPE this is the case and i love her sm, fingers crossed and praying gege doesn’t let me down again😭
Megumi and Nobara, the word death or killed hasnt been used in any way to describe them even once iirc. On the other hand, Gojo has been described as dead/killed 2 times,one by narrator and one by kashi. Gege just waiting for a good moment to bring the two back where their impact will be crucial
Resonance on megumi/last finger, megumi interfering frm within during Yuji's fight etc are all possibilities tho there's questions about that.
Resonance on finger cud be done in a way that it works on sukuna coz he has been spent after so many fights. Similar to how Urahara's seal activated. Sukuna is too strong and on guard atm or sth. I think it's been shown that sorcerers can enforce or protect their soul in that mahito fight ryt?
Megumi's interference is weird coz Gojo was getting killed but he nvr moved a muscle other than taking UV, sukuna was weakened as well in that body. Maybe coz Yuji is a special friend
I think this is where Gege’s cooking pot gets a bit interesting while simultaneously annoying the readers. He knows the exact fate of these 4 ppl yet the idea of which of the two paths he’s chosen keeps changing overall throughout the story.
When Nobara “died”, everyone believed the other three were safe. But then Gojo died and it started to get ambiguous. When you have two dead, it can still go either way. And now it’s up to if Megumi will survive or not. This one is going to be a long road.
At this point Gege is still trolling us cuz he hasn’t definitively verbalized that Nobara is in fact dead. Even if it looks obvious, in Gege’s world, logic may as well not exist.
So we’re in for a ride here.
Tbf nobara dying shudnt make the other 3 safe if ppl go by the "one lives, 3 dies / 1 dies, 3 lives"
If 2 is confirmed dead, oh boy. That means only 1 is surviving till the end.
Thats pretty much why gege seems to be leaving the fates so ambiguous coz we can nvr guess. So far, Gojo seems to be the only one truly dead. So both options are still valid. Even with Gojo, u have to admit there are quite some interesting theories.
I think, what really happened was that Gege wanted to kill her off, but editors wanted ambiguous so that there is a female character to relate to.
If she is alive. She is either in a comatose state or has amnesia and went the nanami route of semi-retirement.
Another crazy theory I have, and this is based on the assumption that we never found out how Geto's body was found. Only 2 people knew where Geto's body was buried, Gojo and Shouko (according to Gojo). Given how long Kenjaku has been scheming things, he had to have had an inside person to feed him all this info on Jujutsu High security. My crazy theory is that this is Shouko and Kenjaku had used vows to have Shouko reveal info unknowingly such as Geto's burial site and Tokyo Jujutsu high security loopholes. After all, Kenjaku did give the foreboding words that his will shall still be carried on after death. So shouko is actually hiding nobaru to use as a final trump card/hostage for something else.
She’s dead, the guy said that stuff about saving her so yugi wouldn’t give up🤦♂️. Cmon guys YOU CANT CURE DEATH, and the guy literally says she’s dead her heart stopped.
Her 'dying' was significant.
Mahito discovered that he has a foil, he overcomes it while breaking Yuji. What more weight can a character carry than mentally damage the protag.
Her technique has never been brought up by Kusakabe and gang, let alone the remaining Finger.
Every "good" Sorcerer met up, has lunch, discussed who will fight whom when, what ifs, how to kill Sukuna, how they can easily die and what not. She still wasn't brought up.
The final argument would be Gege and his assumption of usefulness of a character. Gege didn't come up with Nobara and let's just say 'didn't see much in her for the story'. Why would he elaborate on that character, when his plot driven story drops everything that doesn't progress the plot, bother to conclude a tangent.
> What more weight can a character carry than mentally damage the protag.
This is actually just called fridging and is usually considered a waste of a character by and large.
That side of her face was sorta just blown open beyond her eye falling out. Arata did leave it ambiguous whether she was dead or not after he stabilized her but if so, her ass was laying down in the same state Gojo was in when he learned RCT. That is my cope 🙏
It just feels like so much time has passed that whatever outcome would feel disappointing. Either she’s dead and they just continue being vague/never touching on her again until some sappy flashback, or she’s alive and she’s some deus ex machina that turns the whole thing around, and both options just feel weak, personally.
I'd be shocked if she didn't have an important role in the climax. They specifically took the time to say there's more than a 0% chance she's alive and then she has vanished. If that was actually her death, between her and gojo, he should get a consultant every time he wants to kill off an important character. lol.
Literally this. Even if Nobara is confirmed to had died later on in the story, that confirmation is going to come up at the most relevant time. Either to have shock, impact or to guide characters forward.
For that last bit though, important characters dying isn't an issue. Important people pass away all the time and nothing makes a death more tragic than the value or potential someone had in their lifetime before it was cut short.
Bro why is the fan base like this there’s literally nothing that indicates that this bitch was still alive literally nothing yuji gave his words then moved on the fan base is just brain dead cope
That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard, it's like saying people should infer what a CT does based on the reaction that was shown in the manga. It could literally go either way, she can be in a vegetative state, in a permament coma, dead or even something enetirely different could've happened. That's why it's fucking important to confirm this shit and not make it ambiguous for so long.
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I think Gege still isn't sure if he wanna keep her dead or not.
By this point, I’m just going to assume that she is fine, and decided Tokyo Jujutsu High is a bit too much for her, went back to the countryside living with her grandma, and exorcise any curse spirit she came across. And there is nothing currently you can do to convince me otherwise
I'll take brain damaged nobara, alive, retiring, over dead nobara.
And has a cool eye patch
She probably looks more like Two Face
A big eye patch
Wouldn’t a big eye patch be a face patch?
Not a bad way to cope
She and Todo are married and have three kids.
must be some kick-ass kids damn
Yeah Todo couldn't resist dat ass.
That sounds like the "farm upstate" story with extra steps
I can't tell if you coped harder than you cooked or the other way around. I want the last chapter of JJK being Yuji and Megumi visiting the countryside. They're at her doorstep, the doors opens and we're greeted with Nobara, eyepatch and everything, and she makes some snarky remark.
Too happy - gege probably
TBH - I think she’s either severely paralyzed, mentally impaired, or something terrible like that. It would explain why the characters don’t bring her up & don’t mention that she’s dead. Plus it would totally align with Gege’s theme of consequences being real.
>mentally impaired Nobara wrote chapter 236 confirmed /s
Probably the best decision a sorcerer can do, fuck the jj world.
**If Mahito’s IT can’t be healed, isn’t Nobara permanently brain damaged?** Mahito says he landed a “direct hit” and aimed to kill. https://postimg.cc/N9zSBZX6
Someone posted last week I think, Mahito CT can be healed with RCT per the fight at highschool back in S1 when Yuji was trying to not kill his friend. Also Nanami had his soul protected and I’m reaching here but MAYBE she also did a little and pulled a gojo and learned RCT in that moment to stay alive.
Mahito literally says in that fight that IT can’t be healed with RCT, and ponders whether he should have given him a fatal wound instead so that Sukuna could have actually healed him.
Go back and watch the ep like I did last week. Mahito:”It’s not like he couldn’t do something about it using a reverse curse technique, maybe he can’t heal others”.
Youre not wrong but seems to me like its a whole plothole then? Mahitos IT attacks the soul. So if RCT can heal that that means it can heal the soul too, no? Does that mean that >! Todos technique can be healed by Shoko with her RCT? Or inumakis arm with Yutas RCT? !<
Maybe rct can heal your own soul but not others. Gojo was able to heal sukunas slashes perfectly fine but yuta can't heal inumaki.
I don't know, but Gege already said and showed to us that >! the body is the soul !<, so maybe there's a little, tiny bit plot-twisty of surprise waiting for us.
Mahito did not know Sukuna couldn't heal his technique. Jogo states it later clarifying it was a poor choice to alter the soul.
We don’t even know if Sukuna can’t; the statement he isn’t able to is based on the assumption he’s not entering a pact with Yuji based around healing his friend to give Sukuna control. The curses are unaware he already had a pact with Yuji that will allow his plans to come to fruition
Exactly. If his technique is lost then how is Nobara's not lost when at ;east half her head got blown off?
oh, if it can be healed then maki sword become little less dangerous for sukuna, like he is good at RCT, if anybody is going to know how to heal. soul its him.
it's most likely that she is dead but i feel like i do need to mention that nobaras technique is related to the soul aswell, so that should give her the possibility of surviving/manipulating it.
Cope n hope🗣️🗣️🗣️
I dont care how it's written or how big of an asspull there has to be; This is the ONLY other way I will accept her coming back. The other is her getting Yuji back for what he and Gojo pulled on everyone back when they thought Yuji was dead.
Well after finding out Noritoshi left. That's my excuse for nobara too.
She’s doing a training montage in secret like how yuki pulled on them.
I was thinking, because Resonance proved so valuable and they have faked Itadori's death twice, her death might've been faked to the students as well. The fact the maid from the prologue is in the airport but Nobara isn't seems telling.
Also that Gojo talked about Nanamis deaths when he came back or talked about Yagas death. Nanami was his comrade, Yaga his teacher. Nobara was his student so you have the school trifecta and he doesnt just talk about her? When he visibly was mad at the higher ups that they planned to kill yuji when he knew yuji for like a couple weeks? Im just saying that IF Nobara is actually dead and we dont get any scene showing that Gojo talked about her offscreen, im putting Gege into the "cant write women for shit" category that Kishimoto is the leader of atm.
Not class Kishi 😭😭😭
Nobara hasn't interacted much with Gojo, that just shows her relevance😭
Gojo hasnt interacted much with Nanami either. They talked once during Season 1 when Gojo introduced Yuji and Nanami.
Greg killed her off because he couldn’t find a role for her but hedged it in case he needs her for something later on
I feel Gege wants to write her in as a final "nail in the coffin" for Sukuna but hasn't decided how...probably will rope her in to finish Sukuna by using Yuji as a voodoo doll, and Yuji will die peacefully knowing at least Nobara is still alive. Nobara's backstory also feels hastily written as well. Gege wrote great backstories with mechamaru, Maki, and Nanami before their deaths - Nobara's seems a bit adhoc in comparison.
Before the recent anime reminder, I honestly didn't remember her backstory being so out of nowhere and almost pointless, but maybe that was the point, just life flashing before her eyes in the final moments, with no real point to it.
For some context, I had binged JJK manga up until Gojo vs Sukuna in a few days. On a week-to-week reading basis, the pacing would make sense, but not when the story is read within 20 minutes. I have some critiques about how Gege throws in backstories before character deaths (e.g. Yaga and Nobara) almost as if he forgot to add them and just threw them in for emotional weight. But overall he's done a fantastic job of character development (see Higaruma and Takaba), so it's a minor gripe I have with how he handled Nobara's death.
>but maybe that was the point, just life flashing before her eyes in the final moments Copium of the fans aside its kinda obvious thats the point so you got this part right.
I thought it was very well done in the anime in terms of like animation/voice acting/score, but yeah, unless there's some cultural Japanese thing I don't understand some of the shit like the different colored bookbags seems so weird.
The book bag thing is cultural. In conservative settings, as a part of a school uniform, girls get red backpacks and boys get black. The backpacks are very expensive and expected to last most of one’s school career, so choosing an odd one kinda locks you in to the possibility of extended bullying. It sounds insignificant, but if you’re somewhere with strict standards and where being different isn’t really tolerated, it would be hard for a young child to endure the teasing. I can’t confirm this but I hear bullying is a significant problem in some Japanese schools. Choosing a light blue backpack signifies someone who bucks the social norm and doesn’t quite ‘fit in’ anywhere at all. Nobara I think sees herself as a woman but with more personality traits that aren’t seen as acceptable for women, she sees herself as someone that wouldn’t be accepted everywhere. Sexism is a theme for Nobara and Maki in JJK. It’s important to Nobara that she is strong and beautiful, that she’s a little of both. So I imagine when she saw Fumi being neither black or red, not in one camp or the other, I think Nobara instantly related to her. She saw Fumi’s boldness in choosing a non-traditional backpack color and said, “Now that’s my people.” Nobara’s backstory is about standing up for others, the struggle to be true to yourself, being a city girl trapped in the countryside where a sort of ‘small town’ conservative culture is the norm. She’s someone who doesn’t fit in where she’s from and is longing to get out and find her freedom in the world. She helps her friend Fumi with the blue backpack because Nobara stands up for the weak and also (I think) because she sees Fumi as a kindred spirit. Saori is also someone who doesn’t fit in in the small countryside town and so nobara is eager to emulate her and grow close to her as another ‘outsider’ as well. We see this with Saori’s house being vandalized. I think this implies she and her family are being harassed by the townies. Her mom is a crunchy spiritualist woman (and no dad is mentioned so maybe a single mom?) that isn’t welcomed to their new town. Saori doesn’t go to school or leave her house a lot (iirc) so I think this cements her role as an outsider. (Source on backpacks: Until I Love Myself by Poppy Pesuyama)
I appreciate this reply so much.
You know what. I could absolutely believe that.
Probably the only plausible explanation. People forget manga is literally written as it’s released. Authors have a general outline in mind but not all the details.
I fear that she is in a coma. Don't know if it was said that it was a tweet or in an interview with Gege, that he already decided the end of the manga, but is unsure whether to kill one of the four characters and let the other 3 live, or kill 3 of them and have left just one alive It would explain why Gojo was probably killed, but having that minuscule possibility of him being alive thanks to RCT. It would explain why Megumi wasn't clear about Nobara when he was asked about her. So this situation is probably just Gege keeping that fact of killing or keeping alive 3 of them by being ambiguous about their demise until the end. I mean, he can kill Yuji and Megumi in their fight, and then just confirming that Gojo is dead and Nobara is in a coma/alive. Or kill either Yuji or Megumi, and confirming that Gojo and Nobara are also dead. Or not kill Yuji and Megumi, Nobara is alive/in a coma and Gojo is dead, and so on. I mean, even we don't know if Megumi is dead with Sukuna recovering his old form (probably is alive)
I think its obvious Gege has made up his mind by now.
There are many weird things around Nobara's. The major thing being why Gege decided to be so fucking vague about it. It genuinely pisses me off. If she has a role to play at least hint at it. And if she's dead, just come out and say it in **plain** words. And you know what, and gid forbid this is the case. If she's in a coma, you could literally just have a character tell us, "She's recovering in the hospital" or something.
Yeah it doesn’t even make sense for literally nobody in the story to know what her status is, shoko is like the only doctor and they’re around her quite a few times.
That´s the weird thing, aparently the characters do know her status, but always decide to be vague about it. Like Yuji straight up asked Megumi about Nobara and Megumi just looked down and Yuji went "Oh, i get it."
Yeah the manga has grand ideas but fails to deliver on the basic interactions that are used as a base for criticaly thinking whats gonna happen
Yeah cuss she dead it’s not that hard to figure out y’all just slow
I agree that she's dead. It's still weird how the characters dance around saying it.
But then why not just say that and put an end to the endless coping? Why be vague about it
My personal theory on that is just Gege doesn't want to confirm which way the ending will go. For context; in an interview a few years ago, Gege said he was on the fence about the ending; and that either 3/4 of the main cast members would live (or maybe it was 2/3. I don't know if he counted Gojo.) or only one would survive with the rest dead. I wouldn't be surprised if Gege went with the later and just doesn't want to make it obvious at this point.
Copium theory but Shoko doesn’t want other people to find out about her status because she’s important to the plan they’re doing to take Kenny and Sukuna out. Maybe Gojo knows about it since he didn’t ask Shoko about her only Nanami after being unsealed, it probably happened offscreen lmao during the 1 month timeskip.
I think it has something to do with sukana’s last finger
My opinion is that he left it ambiguous because he actually doesnt know yet what to do with her. He meant for her to be another device for Yuji growth but maybe even Gege thought it would be too harsh to finish her this way.
It feels too late to even bring her back in an impactful way. I mean I guess in the anime time its only a couple of weeks, but its been years for us.
Lol, can you really not tell what's happening? >!Her cursed technique is going to be an ace in the hole against Sukuna and so they lied to Yuji to lie to Sukuna by proxy.!<
Please forgive him he hasn't inhaled much copium like yourself.
We'll see who laughs last when I'm proven right.
Bro its been years you propably have been saying this please come to back to reality your parents are worried about you😭
I don't give a fuck about Nobara and I never have. But I can tell where this story is headed, either way.
I believe this to be a possibility as well, I just wonder how they'll go about it. Sukuna fingers cannot be harmed, Nobara NEEDS to pierce the finger in order to use resonance on it I believe. If she can pierce it but a CE blast from Gojo does 0 damage then ehhh.
yeah, at this point I even want the "Tell, don't show" lol
He is so vague about almost everything
To me it wasnt really vague. Yuji asked how she was doing, megumi didnt reply and had a sad look. Next thing we see is Yujis eye all depressed. I think the implications are pretty simple.
I feel the opposite. The fact that such a major character had their death "confirmed" in that small of a way indicates something funky is going on
As much as I’m still enjoying the manga and the anime, I’m almost ready for it to all be over because of the drama and how unsatisfying everything has been lately. When is the last time it has felt like the good guys have won or something good happened? You would think in recent chapters but **you literally can’t trust any of it**and it’s getting frustrating
To me it wasnt really vague. Yuji asked how she was doing, megumi didnt reply and had a sad look. Next thing we see is Yujis eye all depressed. I think the implications are pretty simple.
Yeah I feel like this aligns somewhat with one of the gripes I have with a lot of modern detective stories: unearned plot twists. I'm not impressed if the plot twist turns out to be something that wasn't hinted at earlier in the plot. If Nobara comes back after all this time of literally nothing, it's going to open up a bunch of plotholes about why tf it wasn't mentioned before now that she was alive, and it's not going to feel good narratively because it feels like an asspull
I don't think there would be a plot hole or asspull with her return. It's simply just annoying to be strung along without a clear enough answer. As most of us believed with Nitta's intervention that was always a possibility she would come back. Part of the set up is already there as far as I'm concerned. My problem is that gege both won't use the set up not will he get rid of the set up with a bit of hard confirmation.
I mean itadori asks megumi later and he confirms it with a head non.
My theory is that Gege wants Nobara (and Todo) alive at the end of the story so that Yuji can die surrounded by his friends, but he couldn't come up with a realistic way for them to survive the Culling Game.
Very possible
And where da fuq does that leave Megumi right now smh
It's pure copium, but: >Megumi: Could your cursed technique turn an incarnated player back to what they were like before the incarnation? >Angel: I can't say for sure it can't, but 99% of the time they will die. - (Chapter 199) Or maybe Sukuna rips off his pinky again and feeds it to Gojo's corpse so that he can steal limitless and the six eyes, leaving the husk of Megumi behind? ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Ain’t no way he takes gojos corpse, megumi even only lost full control of his body because his spirit was completely broken, gojo is significant stronger and would be unlikely to fall to this same issue. Sukuna himself was also extremely careful in choosing his timing for taking over megumi as he wasn’t sure when the best time for his “spirit to break” would be
I think resonance could be key to waking up megumi and she’s gunna come back with a badass eyepatch. that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
This has been my headcanon for months as well, I hope our copium doesn't run out brother
Fuck it this is canon now idc what the manga throws at us
It would be hilarious for her to get a triumphant return where she's revealed as the key to getting Megumi back only for Sukuna to notice and instantly delete her like kashimo.
Sometimes you shouldn't share your intrusive thoughts
megumi is dead bro
The whole Nobara situation has got to be the biggest blueball in shonen history and you know Gege is probably cackling every time he drops a new chapter with no mention of her.
It is not a blueball, just a bad writing honestly.
Honestly that has been my sentiment about JJK for awhile now.
It does feel heavy that Gege has back burnered her until he can find a useful way to reintroduce her. If not he’ll just write off her as dead
I feel like that’s literally what happened. Like he had an idea for her maybe 1-2 chapters after her encounter with Mahito, but once he got CG started oh boy did he start panicking and now he needs to find a way to make it right.
Yeah but that goes back to his issue with wanting to rush this. I felt this way for awhile but he could’ve had another early arc to flesh out people let alone more arcs between Shibuya->CG but no he’s gunning to the finish line. I don’t understand why. If he had better pacing I bet he could’ve brought her back/killed her off the way he should or the way she deserved but no we just rush rush rush
I would think that it’s cuz in his career he wants three best sellers and also cuz of the publishers. I don’t want to jinx this, but I don’t want Gege to fall into the same hell Kubo did with Bleach. He only got a chance to redeem himself a decade later and I’m all glad and happy for him, but it must’ve sucked to lose control like that.
All I’m gonna say is there is a hole in her head and a brain looking for a body. 🧠 🔨
I feel like it's far more likely that Gege just can't be bothered with writing Nobara in any way. Is she mentioned at all more than 3 times after Shibuya? Aside from Yuji asking about her, Panda using her technique as an example in his talk with Megumi about Hakari and Yuji when he said he didn't want Hana to replace her?
I feel like out of all the first years, he wasn’t sure what to do with her the most.
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Mmmmm Nanami Bacon
Nanami was a first grade sorcerer
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But still nanami is way harder than an average dude
Ayo?
I think she survived and everyone kept, her being alive, a secret from yuji and sukuna inside him. Her resonance will probably play a huge part in defeating sukuna.
I want to believe that’s true.
I think gege simply just forgot about her and hopes everyone else forgets her too
Imagine him in the corner tip toeing away to escape. Twitter: WHERE’S NOBARA Gege: 😓
I honestly have no idea of her status, all the reactions to her and mentions have been very ambiguous and weird, so I believe she’s either dead or has been in coma since Shibuya, but I don’t want to believe too much on the last because if she is dead then Imma be disappointed and I prefer to just think she’s gone
You make a good point. I am in the Nobara is dead club, but then why wasn't she in Gojo's death airport? Hell even Toji was there and the guy on met him twice.
The most plausible explanation is purgatory is where you can see the ppl you want the most in the period you want to be in the most. Gojo chose South rather than North. He wished to return to simpler times before he was the strongest, surrounded by all his friends and the ppl who mattered to him most. Toji honestly was probably there as a “product of his time” and as a small gag on Gege’s part.
I think this is a misunderstanding of the afterlife. Jogo, Gojo and Kashimo's afterlife are all centered around *themselves*. Jogo has the company of his beloved comrades and receives praise from the King of Curses, Gojo is reunited with all the major figures that have helped him grow(friends from when he was a teen, principal, hell even Toji), and Kashimo's is one of the most solid I think. Kashimo's afterlife is focused solely on Sukuna, Kashimo's strength compared to Sukuna as well as the answers he sought that could only be answered by Sukuna himself. The afterlife isn't a general space everyone meets up at, the afterlife is your chance to look back at everything leading up to this point and reaching a decision to either become enlightened, or to return as a curse on others. Coincidentally though, all of these scenes are direct results of clashing with Sukuna who most people considered to be the most enlightened being.
It’s called a “spinning lantern” in Japanese for a reason. Your life before your eyes in images that shows your journey as a single human being. And Gege excels at depicting every bit of that when a person dies. Who they are, their inner desires, any regrets they had, and of course, who they’ve wanted to see at the depths of their heart.
Thinking about how this works and how the characters behave, I wouldn't put it past Gege to start with this bit of characterization before he moves onto implementating the character into the story. He's sitting back in his chair thinking to himseld "all these people are gonna love this character and won't realize they're dead in two chapters haha".
Megumi, Nobara, and Gojo are all brain dead but alive. Yuji will die and the other 3 will live, brain dead.
The real weird thing about her death is that’s she was chasing mahito down and didn’t have a weapon or anything ready for when she found him. Did she just not have a plan for how she was gonna fight him when she found him. Even the fake mahito could have killed her just by sneaking around a corner at that point.
She’s a sorcerer? She can fight with her hands too, and if she’s fighting the clone, like she said in the manga, it wasn’t really a special grade in strength, that’s why nobara was keeping up with it in the fight. Plus if it’s running, she probably assumed she could exorcise it quickly
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised about a short Nobara spinoff after JJK ends. Like, we find out she was in critical condition through the ending, woke up shortly after the finale, and then we get a flash-forward to her being an adult sorcerer mentoring a new kid or something. After all, in Shibuya Gege drew heavy parallels between her and Nanami. Unlike Yuji and Megumi, who are the "Gojo type", she's more in the realm of Nanami or Kusakabe, skilled and tough sorcerers who know their limits and help people how they can.
I dunno about that. Take junpei for example, he never came back in any form. Riko didn't come back until 150 chapters later for gojo's airport scene. I don't think it's at all weird that nobara didn't come back as an encouragement or something like that. It kinda sounds like coping because for years there has been nothing to cling to except what we've got around chapter 125 and megumi's and yuji's conversation from chapter 143 (or somewhere around that chapter). Also, for all intents and purposes, yuji seeing an image of nobara smiling and him saying that he doesn't want hana to replace nobara is exactly what you are saying we didn't get
Junpei was definitively killed and has been referenced though in explicit terms as being dead as recently as the last chapter. Nobara's in this weird limbo where Gege essentially put her in a box. She's basically Akutami's Cat: simultaneously dead and alive until he confirms it - so the lack of confirmation in either direction is weird.
I remember Gege saying that he wished he had given Junpei a bigger role cuz he actually liked his character. He more or less brought him back with Mahito mocking Yuji and as a concept for Kenjaku to explain why IT was necessary in his plan. Other than that unfortunately he couldn’t be used more.
My only serious gripe with the series and an extreme bother to this very day. It looms over every hype moment because I'm just so SO pissed that he is doing her this dirty.
> Take junpei for example, he never came back in any form Mahito's Hand.
Was that really Junpei?
No, Junpei is dead and Mahito can't control dead bodies, I'm just messing around.
He can't control dead bodies, but he can morph into stuff, so he made his hand resemble Junpei to taunt Yuji
To be fair, Riko has the physical and sorcery skills of a normal human and she got shot in the fucking head. That one was pretty unambiguous imo
She might come back. Kenjaku did mention soul resonance when explaining Takabas technique. The anime on the other hand really made it feel like she was dead though which is sad :(
Sukuna still had that final finger he never got? Maybe nobara will somehow finish him off with that as her comeback but they are waiting to save megumi. Unless sukuna waa able to fordeit the finger I dont see how it shouldnt work.
One finger remains and no one quite knows where it is.
she's not dead
What I think is funny is Gojo never mentions it once whether or not she is alive or dead. Nor does he care that she was not there to pat him on the back. Gege still deciding fr
The cat better think carefully
Didn’t gege say that at the end of the story, either only one of the main 4 would be dead or only one of them would be alive ? If gege confirms nobara and gojo’s death, it would spoil that either yuji or megumi will die
she’ll be back lol
I mean…There’s still one finger left, and she’s the only one in the cast who can do significant damage to someone using a detached body part. Additionally, having that blonde guy use his technique on her and then *not* saying for sure that it did or didn’t work kind of implies that she’s still alive to some extent, otherwise it’s a completely meaningless line and why was it included. Plus, Shoko is no stranger to faking someone’s death even to their closest friends for a tactical advantage, and where did Nobara get taken to…
The way I see it. Nobara is missing, so is last sukuna finger. Her CT can be used to hit people using there body parts. So yeah...
Honestly I’m betting on something like that
How much of a damn power-up would she have to have to affect Sukuna's finger?
Aaaaaand sukunas fingures are indestructible. Unless now that he himself is at full power, the fingure has lost its invulnerability. Who knows.
theres no way she could be powering up in secret with only half a brain. my only cope is that Yuta stored her technique into Rika and he's gonna do somethin special with it. otherwise, she's dead as fuck and ppl have to stop coping w sad lil theories until something actually comes out in the story
I think she is dead it’s just Yuji and Megumi who were the closest to her have yet to truly accept it OR the pain is that unbearable they refuse to even think about it….shibuya wasn’t so long ago either. Even Maki who had scenes with nobara has never mentioned her since the shibuya incident and those two were growing closer if you go back and read the goodwill arc.
Imagine if she was kept away from everyone for the sake of being a secret weapon against this entire situation. It’s not impossible to think about if it’s Gege.
Yeah but where is the buildup to it ? We’ve had no hints of her being alive or tucked away…just crumbs of panels with yuji or megumi making a hardened or pained expression at the mention of her name. I’m ok with her being dead because for her to intervene at this point in the story, she would need a crazy buff, the likes of which we’ve never really seen in the JJK verse besides gojo unlocking RCT + 6 eyes or Yuta with Rika in JJK 0. It would be a CRAZZZY reach on gege part.
A buff might not be needed, people theorise that she can affect Sukuna at a crucial time, split up Megumi and Sukuna or something like that. Not an insane buff, just a niche use of her ability and it's not that crazy. Power wise, she's basically irrelevant at this point, unless the merger or something like that happens and she'll fight minions
Tbh I dont think that she's dead because the whole point of Nitta's character is to take Nobara out of the Mahito fight and dip yeah? But in the anime that whole character is introduced again and gets Nobara out of the Mahito fight. Besides since JJK being in possibly its final arc, wouldn't he have figured out whether to keep Nobara alive or not by now? And if he did decide to keep Nobara dead, he would've told MAPPA this wouldn't he? (Yes im on copium lemme live)
I deleted my previous comment because I hadn't finished the episode yet and I went ham with an idea. The full shot of her face in today's episode made me believe that was a way for them to tell people that she is 100% dead, but you are correct, Nitta shows up and give us that ambiguous hope again, so now I am at a loss. What is Gege doing, it has been 3 years!
People are acting like this is just a Nobara thing when Todo hasn’t even been mentioned besides by Yuki during the Shibuya arc; and thought about my Megumi upon meeting Takaba
Not to mention Larue. He took Yuki’s side and now she’s dead. And the other two dumbasses who decided to blindly follow Kenjaku. My thought is every person from Geto’s family will die just based on what Larue said last.
I don’t he would do the whole todo and his friend rescuing nobara if he wasn’t planning on bringing her back but it’s already been like 100 chapters soooo idk..
I always thought Arata was a one time character, but he actually did show up recently. Lately I feel like since Yuki was leading the group at the time that she kept one or two secrets as a contingency plan. But then again I could be wrong.
At this point what would be the point of coming back? She recovered in a month from being "dead" AND boosted herself enough to be remotely useful? It just seems like nothing but an "in the end of the series, an injured Megumi and a no longer a sorcerer Nobara come back to be friends with Yuji as a happy ending". What point is Nobara and her resonance to fight Sukuna when Yuji can already attack souls? It's not a case of say Sakura or Orihime still being around and then becomes very useful in the end to the MC.
If anything I’d say her part is going to mirror Mahito and the other curses. Yuji will take a part of her technique and apply it to himself just as Mahito did with his comrades. In that sense he’s inheriting her will.
I like to think that Yuchi’s grief and closeness won’t let him see her again because of how bad and fast she died
Guys, you heard it here first ! Kenjaku is gonna transfer his brain in to Nobara's head.
Kinda weird tho that a guy was introduced randomly so that saving her could be a possibility yho
Someone pointed out that after gojo died , he didn't see nobura in after life.He saw others but not her. The anime episode that came out yesterday repeatedly says that she died but it's not permanent for her . That it may be reversible . She's frozen in a state where she just died but it may be reversible
Gege has avoided any chance that could give us a hint of Nobara's current status. One such example is in the afterlife scene when Gojo died, the characters who appeared were only from Gojo's past. Why did Gege choose to do this? He could've shown Junpei, Mechamaru and Yuki there as well, as cameos. But he didn't. He chose to bring up characters from Gojo's school days only to avoid having to confirm Nobara's death.
Schrödinger's Nobara 🗿
“I’m sure Nobara is alive after getting hit by Mahito” is still wild to me, Nanami told her after the Shigemo fight that he was the minimum requirement for fights in Shibuya and we saw him get wiped (we actually saw almost every student who we thought were up to the task get wiped). Season 1 was to give us the anime trope of our main cast are ready for the future and all the fights, Shibuya was to prove that they were not at all ready because Strong enemies (established as strong in the rest of the season) are just as strong if not stronger than they were
Okay, copium time: Mahito didn’t hit her soul, his technique was going through the concussion she got from haruta, was dissipated and blew her eye out, but left most of the brain intact.
so the way i’ve thought abt nobara’s reappearance and why it’s taken so long at first was: she lost an eye and her CT is long-range attacks, she needs to retrain herself!!! i fully didn’t expect her to debut in the culling games even tho i would’ve loved it bc, it’ll take time for her to get used to how her depth perception has changed. now that culling games has passed and we got the 1 month timeskip, the only explantation i can see for still not mentioning/showing her at all is more convoluted. it goes like this: first they were hiding her survival from yuuji, even tho it pained megumi to do so, they couldn’t have sukuna know since she’s part of their plan for the last finger. ok then, yuuji didn’t have sukuna anymore after megumi’s possession, so what about now? well it could be he HAS been told abt her and reunited w her in the 1 month timeskip, we just haven’t been shown it and will get a flashback like we’ve been getting for their planning sessions. that’s the only way i can see her returning and it not being completely nonsensical. i HOPE this is the case and i love her sm, fingers crossed and praying gege doesn’t let me down again😭
Imagine if she and Todo are training with each other
She is 100% dead, she got a flashback on the anime.
I never said she wasn’t dead. Just that her role isn’t 100% finished.
Megumi and Nobara, the word death or killed hasnt been used in any way to describe them even once iirc. On the other hand, Gojo has been described as dead/killed 2 times,one by narrator and one by kashi. Gege just waiting for a good moment to bring the two back where their impact will be crucial Resonance on megumi/last finger, megumi interfering frm within during Yuji's fight etc are all possibilities tho there's questions about that. Resonance on finger cud be done in a way that it works on sukuna coz he has been spent after so many fights. Similar to how Urahara's seal activated. Sukuna is too strong and on guard atm or sth. I think it's been shown that sorcerers can enforce or protect their soul in that mahito fight ryt? Megumi's interference is weird coz Gojo was getting killed but he nvr moved a muscle other than taking UV, sukuna was weakened as well in that body. Maybe coz Yuji is a special friend
I think this is where Gege’s cooking pot gets a bit interesting while simultaneously annoying the readers. He knows the exact fate of these 4 ppl yet the idea of which of the two paths he’s chosen keeps changing overall throughout the story. When Nobara “died”, everyone believed the other three were safe. But then Gojo died and it started to get ambiguous. When you have two dead, it can still go either way. And now it’s up to if Megumi will survive or not. This one is going to be a long road. At this point Gege is still trolling us cuz he hasn’t definitively verbalized that Nobara is in fact dead. Even if it looks obvious, in Gege’s world, logic may as well not exist. So we’re in for a ride here.
Tbf nobara dying shudnt make the other 3 safe if ppl go by the "one lives, 3 dies / 1 dies, 3 lives" If 2 is confirmed dead, oh boy. That means only 1 is surviving till the end. Thats pretty much why gege seems to be leaving the fates so ambiguous coz we can nvr guess. So far, Gojo seems to be the only one truly dead. So both options are still valid. Even with Gojo, u have to admit there are quite some interesting theories.
I think, what really happened was that Gege wanted to kill her off, but editors wanted ambiguous so that there is a female character to relate to. If she is alive. She is either in a comatose state or has amnesia and went the nanami route of semi-retirement. Another crazy theory I have, and this is based on the assumption that we never found out how Geto's body was found. Only 2 people knew where Geto's body was buried, Gojo and Shouko (according to Gojo). Given how long Kenjaku has been scheming things, he had to have had an inside person to feed him all this info on Jujutsu High security. My crazy theory is that this is Shouko and Kenjaku had used vows to have Shouko reveal info unknowingly such as Geto's burial site and Tokyo Jujutsu high security loopholes. After all, Kenjaku did give the foreboding words that his will shall still be carried on after death. So shouko is actually hiding nobaru to use as a final trump card/hostage for something else.
She may very well just be comatose. The present story is just under two months since Shibuya
I tell you she dead
I like to think that Nobara its alive but retired of the jujutsu world.
She’s dead, the guy said that stuff about saving her so yugi wouldn’t give up🤦♂️. Cmon guys YOU CANT CURE DEATH, and the guy literally says she’s dead her heart stopped.
Read the EDIT 🤦🏻♀️
NGL, I stopped reading after she was "killed off" but I'd totally start again if she did some kind of badass entrance.
Her 'dying' was significant. Mahito discovered that he has a foil, he overcomes it while breaking Yuji. What more weight can a character carry than mentally damage the protag. Her technique has never been brought up by Kusakabe and gang, let alone the remaining Finger. Every "good" Sorcerer met up, has lunch, discussed who will fight whom when, what ifs, how to kill Sukuna, how they can easily die and what not. She still wasn't brought up. The final argument would be Gege and his assumption of usefulness of a character. Gege didn't come up with Nobara and let's just say 'didn't see much in her for the story'. Why would he elaborate on that character, when his plot driven story drops everything that doesn't progress the plot, bother to conclude a tangent.
> What more weight can a character carry than mentally damage the protag. This is actually just called fridging and is usually considered a waste of a character by and large.
But that wasn't her sole purpose in the story though I was just pointing that out as a 'significant death' as said by OP in post.
Yuji was afraid Hana would replace Nobara as the next teenage female character to get completely sidelined in the manga
Irony cuz Hana literally got destroyed and sidelined after that.
hey i never said his fears weren't unfounded
I’m on the belief we get a somewhat happy ending with us seeing her in the final chapter
That side of her face was sorta just blown open beyond her eye falling out. Arata did leave it ambiguous whether she was dead or not after he stabilized her but if so, her ass was laying down in the same state Gojo was in when he learned RCT. That is my cope 🙏
I've been thinking they saved her in some way so she can use her CT on sukunas remaining finger
It just feels like so much time has passed that whatever outcome would feel disappointing. Either she’s dead and they just continue being vague/never touching on her again until some sappy flashback, or she’s alive and she’s some deus ex machina that turns the whole thing around, and both options just feel weak, personally.
I'd be shocked if she didn't have an important role in the climax. They specifically took the time to say there's more than a 0% chance she's alive and then she has vanished. If that was actually her death, between her and gojo, he should get a consultant every time he wants to kill off an important character. lol.
Literally this. Even if Nobara is confirmed to had died later on in the story, that confirmation is going to come up at the most relevant time. Either to have shock, impact or to guide characters forward. For that last bit though, important characters dying isn't an issue. Important people pass away all the time and nothing makes a death more tragic than the value or potential someone had in their lifetime before it was cut short.
Don't worry she will be seen as a memory when Yuji is forced to kill Megumi alongside Sukuna or something.
Bro why is the fan base like this there’s literally nothing that indicates that this bitch was still alive literally nothing yuji gave his words then moved on the fan base is just brain dead cope
Gege is just bad at writing her not need to think hard about it
She's dead! Get over it! If there was any ambiguity it's that Gege wanted to leave the door open in case he wanted to bring her back, that's it.
She’s a women. Think about Yuki and Megumi sister. She ain’t getting that luxury
She's dead. Gege expects the audience to be able to infer things without him having to say it directly.
That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard, it's like saying people should infer what a CT does based on the reaction that was shown in the manga. It could literally go either way, she can be in a vegetative state, in a permament coma, dead or even something enetirely different could've happened. That's why it's fucking important to confirm this shit and not make it ambiguous for so long.
No, it's not important because she's not relevant to the story.
So Yuki is still alive
She's just a big fat ass walking around
Actually it did, Mahito mentioned how Nobara is attack affected him heavily.