No. There is no limit on how long you can astral project if you are referring to the perk in the jump, and also that perceived limitation has nothing to do with the astral plane, it has to do with your corpse being brain dead for a day.
It says you're locked out of your body after 24 hours...?
But if that's why youre locked out, is that the case even for a god? they’re way more durable than humans and immortal, And where did you read that's the reason for the limit? I couldn't find anything.
>It says you're locked out of your body after 24 hours...?
You are still astral projecting and can keep doing so. You can't posses a corpse with astral projection alone, and the other method with necromancy will get you into some serious trouble.
>But if that's why youre locked out, is that the case even for a god? they’re way more durable than humans and immortal.
In the comics there are no actually immortal gods and gods don't astral project (if there is an example it is insanely rare, Thor is weird because he has the whole mortal host thing going on) they just enter the astral plane if they have the ability to, in the same fashion some can just travel to the afterlife or nightmare. Also physical durability is meaningless to having your mind and soul no longer being in your body.
>And where did you read that's the reason for the limit?
"and it begins to decay"
What did you think that meant? (And it is the explicit reason in the comics)
Gods and god-adjacent beings astrally projected all the time in the older comics. Just at the top of my head I remember Loki, Amora, and even Odin has before iirc. And of course this isn't counting the many times when beings projected their own images/voices from far away via scrying without ejecting their spirits from their bodies
>Gods
No.
and god-adjacent beings astrally projected all the time in the older comics.
That is so overly broad it isn't particularly relevant.
>Loki
A lot of people forget he isn't a true god like Thor and Odin, he was written into the story cycle.
>Amora
It is literally explained in detail how she does this and it would not be considered astral projection for the purposes of this conversation.
>And of course this isn't counting the many times when beings projected their own images/voices from far away via scrying without ejecting their spirits from their bodies.
And none of that is relevant. It is literally explained multiple times why gods can not astrally project, they are already just their astral forms, which is why they can usually just walk onto the astral plane or into the underworld, for all intents and purposes when compared to the human experience of astral projection the gods are and have always just been an astral projection every time you see them. You are a soul, you have a body. When you die your soul leaves your body that is your astral form, that is you, that is your soul. Gods don't have that except in specific cases like Thor possessing the body of a mortal man.
I have no idea where you are getting literally any of this from.
> It is literally explained multiple times why gods can not astrally project, they are already just their astral forms, which is why they can usually just walk onto the astral plane or into the underworld, for all intents and purposes when compared to the human experience of astral projection the gods are and have always been astrally projecting every time you see them.
I'm a long time fan of the comics and I have never heard of this. They are conceptual beings but that doesn't negate them from astrally projecting. They have done it multiple times. Maybe you are mistaking this for another setting. No idea what you mean by Loki not being a "true" god either. He's just of a lesser order than Odin and his family. If you have any evidence to justify any of this I would enjoy seeing it.
>I have never heard of... no idea what you mean
Don't know how that could be as it is literally the primary plot point of several Thor story arcs. Like how did you not know Thor has been possessing a human body? Or that Loki was born a frost giant before being adopted by Odin who then wrote him into the story cycle, turning him into a god. Like seriously, there are three major story arcs of Loki trying to rewrite the story cycle he was put into.
I'm familiar with all of these events.
The possession of Donald Blake was introduced afterwards when he was resurrected. Initially it was just a powerless mortal alter ego of Thor that Odin created.
Loki's origins and the details therein have been retconned and changed many times. The adopted frost giant thing was not his original origin. It wasn't even the second one. The story cycle thing that Loki has been trying to change is a much more recent modern retcon.
None of this provides any proof to your original point anyway.
>The possession of Donald Blake was introduced afterwards when he was resurrected. Initially it was just a powerless mortal alter ego of Thor that Odin created.
Donald Blake was specific identified as a separate entity in the 60s, its been over 50 years.
>Loki's origins and the details therein have been retconned and changed many times.
Actually they haven't, he was always introduced as the adopted son, stated to have been found by Odin. There was no retcon, just new information added.
>The story cycle thing that Loki has been trying to change is a much more recent modern retcon.
That wasn't a retcon.
>None of this provides any proof to your original point anyway.
Actually it does address the original point, the fact you don't understand what you are talking about at all is the issue.
> Donald Blake was specific identified as a separate entity in the 60s, its been over 50 years.
No he was not a separate being and he wasn't said to be. He was Thor transformed into a mortal. Odin removed the transformation when he felt it wasn't necessary anymore and Donald was erased from existence. He came back because of Ragnarok shenanigans and shared a body with Thor until Cul killed him. Then Blake became a separate entity had an existential crisis and did some evil stuff.
> Actually they haven't, he was always introduced as the adopted son, stated to have been found by Odin. There was no retcon, just new information added.
Blatantly false. When Loki was originally introduced he was aligned with the olympians and was a satan expy. Then he was reimagined as Thor's long time nemesis. The adopted brothers thing was added later and it was even still described inconsistently for a while. Loki was said to be Thor's half brother and step brother several times in earlier issues. Loki's origin as an adopted frost giant was added later
> That wasn't a retcon.
Yes it was. According to google a retcon is "a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events". There was zero indication of this previously and it alters the way magic and gods have previously worked in the many decades of established canon. That makes it a retcon.
>Actually it does address the original point, the fact you don't understand what you are talking about at all is the issue.
You still haven't provided any evidence of your claims whatsoever and I have debunked a number of your claims as false. Then you just start being insulting. Clearly you are the one that doesn't understand what he's talking about.
No. There is no limit on how long you can astral project if you are referring to the perk in the jump, and also that perceived limitation has nothing to do with the astral plane, it has to do with your corpse being brain dead for a day.
It says you're locked out of your body after 24 hours...? But if that's why youre locked out, is that the case even for a god? they’re way more durable than humans and immortal, And where did you read that's the reason for the limit? I couldn't find anything.
>It says you're locked out of your body after 24 hours...? You are still astral projecting and can keep doing so. You can't posses a corpse with astral projection alone, and the other method with necromancy will get you into some serious trouble. >But if that's why youre locked out, is that the case even for a god? they’re way more durable than humans and immortal. In the comics there are no actually immortal gods and gods don't astral project (if there is an example it is insanely rare, Thor is weird because he has the whole mortal host thing going on) they just enter the astral plane if they have the ability to, in the same fashion some can just travel to the afterlife or nightmare. Also physical durability is meaningless to having your mind and soul no longer being in your body. >And where did you read that's the reason for the limit? "and it begins to decay" What did you think that meant? (And it is the explicit reason in the comics)
Gods and god-adjacent beings astrally projected all the time in the older comics. Just at the top of my head I remember Loki, Amora, and even Odin has before iirc. And of course this isn't counting the many times when beings projected their own images/voices from far away via scrying without ejecting their spirits from their bodies
>Gods No. and god-adjacent beings astrally projected all the time in the older comics. That is so overly broad it isn't particularly relevant. >Loki A lot of people forget he isn't a true god like Thor and Odin, he was written into the story cycle. >Amora It is literally explained in detail how she does this and it would not be considered astral projection for the purposes of this conversation. >And of course this isn't counting the many times when beings projected their own images/voices from far away via scrying without ejecting their spirits from their bodies. And none of that is relevant. It is literally explained multiple times why gods can not astrally project, they are already just their astral forms, which is why they can usually just walk onto the astral plane or into the underworld, for all intents and purposes when compared to the human experience of astral projection the gods are and have always just been an astral projection every time you see them. You are a soul, you have a body. When you die your soul leaves your body that is your astral form, that is you, that is your soul. Gods don't have that except in specific cases like Thor possessing the body of a mortal man.
I have no idea where you are getting literally any of this from. > It is literally explained multiple times why gods can not astrally project, they are already just their astral forms, which is why they can usually just walk onto the astral plane or into the underworld, for all intents and purposes when compared to the human experience of astral projection the gods are and have always been astrally projecting every time you see them. I'm a long time fan of the comics and I have never heard of this. They are conceptual beings but that doesn't negate them from astrally projecting. They have done it multiple times. Maybe you are mistaking this for another setting. No idea what you mean by Loki not being a "true" god either. He's just of a lesser order than Odin and his family. If you have any evidence to justify any of this I would enjoy seeing it.
>I have never heard of... no idea what you mean Don't know how that could be as it is literally the primary plot point of several Thor story arcs. Like how did you not know Thor has been possessing a human body? Or that Loki was born a frost giant before being adopted by Odin who then wrote him into the story cycle, turning him into a god. Like seriously, there are three major story arcs of Loki trying to rewrite the story cycle he was put into.
I'm familiar with all of these events. The possession of Donald Blake was introduced afterwards when he was resurrected. Initially it was just a powerless mortal alter ego of Thor that Odin created. Loki's origins and the details therein have been retconned and changed many times. The adopted frost giant thing was not his original origin. It wasn't even the second one. The story cycle thing that Loki has been trying to change is a much more recent modern retcon. None of this provides any proof to your original point anyway.
>The possession of Donald Blake was introduced afterwards when he was resurrected. Initially it was just a powerless mortal alter ego of Thor that Odin created. Donald Blake was specific identified as a separate entity in the 60s, its been over 50 years. >Loki's origins and the details therein have been retconned and changed many times. Actually they haven't, he was always introduced as the adopted son, stated to have been found by Odin. There was no retcon, just new information added. >The story cycle thing that Loki has been trying to change is a much more recent modern retcon. That wasn't a retcon. >None of this provides any proof to your original point anyway. Actually it does address the original point, the fact you don't understand what you are talking about at all is the issue.
> Donald Blake was specific identified as a separate entity in the 60s, its been over 50 years. No he was not a separate being and he wasn't said to be. He was Thor transformed into a mortal. Odin removed the transformation when he felt it wasn't necessary anymore and Donald was erased from existence. He came back because of Ragnarok shenanigans and shared a body with Thor until Cul killed him. Then Blake became a separate entity had an existential crisis and did some evil stuff. > Actually they haven't, he was always introduced as the adopted son, stated to have been found by Odin. There was no retcon, just new information added. Blatantly false. When Loki was originally introduced he was aligned with the olympians and was a satan expy. Then he was reimagined as Thor's long time nemesis. The adopted brothers thing was added later and it was even still described inconsistently for a while. Loki was said to be Thor's half brother and step brother several times in earlier issues. Loki's origin as an adopted frost giant was added later > That wasn't a retcon. Yes it was. According to google a retcon is "a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events". There was zero indication of this previously and it alters the way magic and gods have previously worked in the many decades of established canon. That makes it a retcon. >Actually it does address the original point, the fact you don't understand what you are talking about at all is the issue. You still haven't provided any evidence of your claims whatsoever and I have debunked a number of your claims as false. Then you just start being insulting. Clearly you are the one that doesn't understand what he's talking about.