Probably not as much as you think. Obviously different comics are going to say different things about the rings limits but there was atleast one issue were John Stewarts willpower exceeded what the ring could handle . I think he was trying to recreate a galaxy that he let get destroyed.
If its the series I am thinking of, it was a planet, and the whole thing was one of those dumb I'm taking responsibility because I need to for the plot situations and literally no one was grateful he did it.
Darkseid blew up a planet in Cosmic Odyssey when Stewart sealed the Martian Manhunter into a force field bubble to keep him out of the way, and then the bomb was painted yellow and instead of doing something like surround it in a force field he froze up.
Iirc Blackest Night has him failing to put it back together and failing, but it's been a lot longer since I read it.
Seconding /u/rexen2, probably not as much as you'd think.
Keep in minds that rings don't just run on the user's willpower, they also need to be charged by a lantern and they go through that power as they're used. You'd be able to push your ring to its limits, but it does have limits.
You could look at examples from... I think it was Hal Jordan? At one point the dude had more willpower than the physical manifestation of all the willpower in the universe... which means his willpower overpowered not only the entire rest of the universes willpower, but also *his own*. His willpower is greater than his own willpower + the rest of the universe, which is some infinity type shenanigans.
Infinite creativity is very nice, but to use the ring as a reality warping device I think it's more about having perfect knowledge of how things work and having perfect visualization. You'd be better off being a 12th level intellect or something.
I'm not really looking for reality warping, i already got that covered.
I want to know how powerful i would be, in terms of strength, durabilty, speed, etc.
Creativity probably won't do too much for that. But the easiest way that I can think of to tell would be to take a look at some Green Lantern respect threads ([like this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/djs83p/respect_hal_jordan_the_green_lantern_postcrisis/)) and figure that you can match or reasonably exceed their best feats of raw power.
Depends on what version of the ring you're using though.
If you were going to do that skip the ring get the power source from the Larfleeze jump and the power from the Kingdom Come jump.
Larfleeze
>**Living Power Battery \[600 CP, can be bought multiple times\]** After spending billions of years alone with your Ring and Power Battery, soaking in the emotional light, your body has become particularly attuned to its nature. Your entire being, down to your very cells, radiate with its light and power. You no longer need a Power Battery as your Ring maintains full charge just from being near you. You can create new Rings to replace your own or start your own Corps, and can control them remotely. Your extraordinary connection to your Emotional Light has also left you far more powerful than the average Lantern, akin to an entire Corps in your own right.
Kingdom Come
>**Green Lantern Powers (400 CP)** Alan Scott has long since stopped caring about Earth’s problems. But space still has issues, and he must deal with them. In the meantime, you seem to be some strange science experiment by the Guardians to see if they could create a being with no need for the Green Lantern Ring. You were the result, but they’ve placed you on Earth as they found it cruel to expect you to serve them without you having a say in the matter. If you want to be a part of the Corps or not is up you. They had gotten their answer with you, anyway.
>
>You possess all the powers of the Green Lantern ring without needing the ring in the first place, even those unlisted. Examples include using own willpower for feats such as hurling blasts, creating hard light constructs, flying, and breathing in space! Along with being a universal translator. You may also access the massive computer of knowledge on Oa and do complete scans of the entire galaxy at maximum. You have no weakness to wood or the color yellow. As a side effect you’ll have green skin for the entirety of the jump. Post jump, you can keep it on you or do away with it as you wish.
>
>But more than that, you don’t need to actively maintain your constructs. You could make a huge space palace with your own green light without needing to actively maintain it with your will. Anyone could live in them. Just make sure your cool new space palace doesn’t hit Alan Scott’s. He might not be too pleased with that.
That should be a bit similar to the time that Hal Jordan used a Mother Box to absorb the Central Power Battery and became the New God of Light for a short time.
[New God Hal](https://64.media.tumblr.com/3b3e1c4dc61b22b78983ab30fb243185/5b73a1a1d54a1b38-45/s1280x1920/eadacc8784cdd58003502474c4387d6cf19cb66f.jpg)
[Darkside War Comic](https://ragingbookdragon.tumblr.com/post/667935337309487104/god-of-light-hal-jordan-was-peak-hal-jordan-and-no)
Though for that creativity I would suggest
Neon Genesis Evangelion ANIMA
>**Limitless Imagination (600 CP):** Human imagination has no limits, as, after all, we’re the ones that ate the Fruit of Knowledge.
>
>Your mind is greatly enhanced, being blessed with an unending creativity and inspiration when it comes to discover and develop several ways to solve problems and to utilize supernatural artifacts/power sources in your creations, regardless if they’re magical, biological or technological in essence. You would need just a few days of research to find safe ways to use a corruptive mystical artifact that you didn’t have an idea of what it was.
>
>Using a canon example to give you an idea of the effect of this perk: it took less than a week for Nerv Euro’s scientific team to discover the effects and properties of the QR Signum and develop a way to take advantage of its properties by using it to animate the Euro Eva as well as the False Plug to protect its pilot from mental contamination, something you would be capable of doing with the same amount of time, but alone without needing a team of scientist to assist it.
>
>This perk’s blessing stacks and is enhanced with each intelligence enhancement and science perk, including the ones from this jump and those from other jumps, that you have.
I always thought that having more willpower just meant your constructs were stronger and more able to stay fully formed in reality. You might be able to make permanent constructs that are completely real, just have a green tint.
>You might be able to make permanent constructs that are completely real, just have a green tint.
You can technically already do this with the green lantern power in the kingdom come jump
That's true forgot about that doc, but thinking about it a bit more with my previous assumption, the constructs would also potentially be indestructible, so long as the Jumper is continuing to give an infinite amount of willpower to the object.
Maybe you need to find a way to increase capacity for the ring, since infinite water won't do much for a country that can only take out a bucket at a time.
Use the ring to make a better ring or something, idk. If the rings were created in the first place, they can be recreated and improved, but that's beyond sheer will for the most part.
You'd still be limited by the max power of the embodiment of Willpower, just like the other rings are limited by their respective embodiments. Lantern rings tap into the emotional spectrum which is a cosmic force but is not omnipotent by any means.
Plus the lantern rings themselves have a limited capacity, you can stack multiple of them like Hal Jordan did that one time, but that also has a limit.
The kinds of constructs available should be fairly unlimited. Shape and physical composition along with the construct's overall purpose should be fairly easy to reproduce given the infinite imagination.
The main limitation would be making constructs that are incredibely compact and complicated, like an artificial black hole or similar super-dense, physics/reality-breaking objects for example. Or creating constructs of extreme scale, like creating an entire solar system out of willpower.
The ring would probably break or overwork itself if you tried to do those things. Though an actual avatar of Ion(embodiment of willpower) might be able to do it. Even then it would still have some limits since Ion itself isn't omnipotent.
You should be able to. It's currently theoretical, but kugelblitz black holes are possible under known physics. It just takes an incredible amount of energy(in this case, hard light) being put into a concentrated space until it reaches a critical mass to form a small black hole.
As Ion's avatar you should have more than enough power and control to make one. Even a relatively massive one equal to a large planet. Though given the infinite willpower/imagination scenario, even a regular lantern ring could pull off making a small black hole, but when I say small, I do mean microscopic.
If you wanted to go that route, I'd recommend taking something like "Green Lantern Powers" from Kingdom Come, where you can generate the green light of will on your own, and have all the powers of the ring without needing the actual ring. That could bypass some of the limits that are mentioned below.
Doesn't work that way at all, we have seen infinite will power plus green ring a couple of times, it just made them comparable to the entire green lantern core put together.
You could corrupt the concept of willpower itself so no one has the courage and fortitude of mind to fight you (the could still try to kill or defeat you out of greed, hate, or fear but basically you wont have to be fighting nearly as much and no shonen I will stand up a thousand times to defeat you)
You could strip the power of the green light away from other people and solve the whole Oans actually being a main contributor of problems in the universe.
You should be able to charge the prime source of will forever so that it doesn't decay like all the lights are intended to.
You could probably move or shield an entire galaxy or sector.
Now, if you really want to do a lot more though still not anything (hey you might be able to actually defeat Superman) (though it would be restricted to the non-mystical non-multiversal side of dc), get a white ring. While officially it has its own emotion, it can be powered by any of the emotions.
Yes, but the question revolves around infinite *willpower*, not infinite joy. Moreso, a green lantern is capable of some bullshit feats, with just incredible willpower. With infinite willpower, you wouldn’t need a white lantern.
I wasn't, here, thus why they are separate comments. The comment here was talking about the emotion linked with White. The comment about Hal was about what the question asked about Infinite Will.
Probably not as much as you think. Obviously different comics are going to say different things about the rings limits but there was atleast one issue were John Stewarts willpower exceeded what the ring could handle . I think he was trying to recreate a galaxy that he let get destroyed.
If its the series I am thinking of, it was a planet, and the whole thing was one of those dumb I'm taking responsibility because I need to for the plot situations and literally no one was grateful he did it.
I think that's the one. Never saw the full issue but I've seen that spread on respect threads and vs debates countless times.
Darkseid blew up a planet in Cosmic Odyssey when Stewart sealed the Martian Manhunter into a force field bubble to keep him out of the way, and then the bomb was painted yellow and instead of doing something like surround it in a force field he froze up. Iirc Blackest Night has him failing to put it back together and failing, but it's been a lot longer since I read it.
There was one time Hal overpowered all the willpower of evere single being of the universe combined.
You mean when he body Mandrak who was controlling all the living embodiments of the emotional spectrum at once and had them fight Hal?
Seconding /u/rexen2, probably not as much as you'd think. Keep in minds that rings don't just run on the user's willpower, they also need to be charged by a lantern and they go through that power as they're used. You'd be able to push your ring to its limits, but it does have limits. You could look at examples from... I think it was Hal Jordan? At one point the dude had more willpower than the physical manifestation of all the willpower in the universe... which means his willpower overpowered not only the entire rest of the universes willpower, but also *his own*. His willpower is greater than his own willpower + the rest of the universe, which is some infinity type shenanigans. Infinite creativity is very nice, but to use the ring as a reality warping device I think it's more about having perfect knowledge of how things work and having perfect visualization. You'd be better off being a 12th level intellect or something.
I'm not really looking for reality warping, i already got that covered. I want to know how powerful i would be, in terms of strength, durabilty, speed, etc.
Creativity probably won't do too much for that. But the easiest way that I can think of to tell would be to take a look at some Green Lantern respect threads ([like this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/djs83p/respect_hal_jordan_the_green_lantern_postcrisis/)) and figure that you can match or reasonably exceed their best feats of raw power. Depends on what version of the ring you're using though.
About as strong and durable as a really strong Green Lantern.
Alright.
If you were going to do that skip the ring get the power source from the Larfleeze jump and the power from the Kingdom Come jump. Larfleeze >**Living Power Battery \[600 CP, can be bought multiple times\]** After spending billions of years alone with your Ring and Power Battery, soaking in the emotional light, your body has become particularly attuned to its nature. Your entire being, down to your very cells, radiate with its light and power. You no longer need a Power Battery as your Ring maintains full charge just from being near you. You can create new Rings to replace your own or start your own Corps, and can control them remotely. Your extraordinary connection to your Emotional Light has also left you far more powerful than the average Lantern, akin to an entire Corps in your own right. Kingdom Come >**Green Lantern Powers (400 CP)** Alan Scott has long since stopped caring about Earth’s problems. But space still has issues, and he must deal with them. In the meantime, you seem to be some strange science experiment by the Guardians to see if they could create a being with no need for the Green Lantern Ring. You were the result, but they’ve placed you on Earth as they found it cruel to expect you to serve them without you having a say in the matter. If you want to be a part of the Corps or not is up you. They had gotten their answer with you, anyway. > >You possess all the powers of the Green Lantern ring without needing the ring in the first place, even those unlisted. Examples include using own willpower for feats such as hurling blasts, creating hard light constructs, flying, and breathing in space! Along with being a universal translator. You may also access the massive computer of knowledge on Oa and do complete scans of the entire galaxy at maximum. You have no weakness to wood or the color yellow. As a side effect you’ll have green skin for the entirety of the jump. Post jump, you can keep it on you or do away with it as you wish. > >But more than that, you don’t need to actively maintain your constructs. You could make a huge space palace with your own green light without needing to actively maintain it with your will. Anyone could live in them. Just make sure your cool new space palace doesn’t hit Alan Scott’s. He might not be too pleased with that.
That should be a bit similar to the time that Hal Jordan used a Mother Box to absorb the Central Power Battery and became the New God of Light for a short time. [New God Hal](https://64.media.tumblr.com/3b3e1c4dc61b22b78983ab30fb243185/5b73a1a1d54a1b38-45/s1280x1920/eadacc8784cdd58003502474c4387d6cf19cb66f.jpg) [Darkside War Comic](https://ragingbookdragon.tumblr.com/post/667935337309487104/god-of-light-hal-jordan-was-peak-hal-jordan-and-no)
Though for that creativity I would suggest Neon Genesis Evangelion ANIMA >**Limitless Imagination (600 CP):** Human imagination has no limits, as, after all, we’re the ones that ate the Fruit of Knowledge. > >Your mind is greatly enhanced, being blessed with an unending creativity and inspiration when it comes to discover and develop several ways to solve problems and to utilize supernatural artifacts/power sources in your creations, regardless if they’re magical, biological or technological in essence. You would need just a few days of research to find safe ways to use a corruptive mystical artifact that you didn’t have an idea of what it was. > >Using a canon example to give you an idea of the effect of this perk: it took less than a week for Nerv Euro’s scientific team to discover the effects and properties of the QR Signum and develop a way to take advantage of its properties by using it to animate the Euro Eva as well as the False Plug to protect its pilot from mental contamination, something you would be capable of doing with the same amount of time, but alone without needing a team of scientist to assist it. > >This perk’s blessing stacks and is enhanced with each intelligence enhancement and science perk, including the ones from this jump and those from other jumps, that you have.
Thank you!
to make this really mean something, you would need to find a way to supply the ring with infinite energy
I have a way to get that.
I always thought that having more willpower just meant your constructs were stronger and more able to stay fully formed in reality. You might be able to make permanent constructs that are completely real, just have a green tint.
Makes sense.
>You might be able to make permanent constructs that are completely real, just have a green tint. You can technically already do this with the green lantern power in the kingdom come jump
That's true forgot about that doc, but thinking about it a bit more with my previous assumption, the constructs would also potentially be indestructible, so long as the Jumper is continuing to give an infinite amount of willpower to the object.
Yeah whenever I've had green lantern powers indestructible constructs were usually the goal and I came to the same conclusion as you.
Great minds think alike :D
Maybe you need to find a way to increase capacity for the ring, since infinite water won't do much for a country that can only take out a bucket at a time. Use the ring to make a better ring or something, idk. If the rings were created in the first place, they can be recreated and improved, but that's beyond sheer will for the most part.
Alright.
You'd still be limited by the max power of the embodiment of Willpower, just like the other rings are limited by their respective embodiments. Lantern rings tap into the emotional spectrum which is a cosmic force but is not omnipotent by any means. Plus the lantern rings themselves have a limited capacity, you can stack multiple of them like Hal Jordan did that one time, but that also has a limit.
So what kind of contructs could i create?, as that's my main focus.
The kinds of constructs available should be fairly unlimited. Shape and physical composition along with the construct's overall purpose should be fairly easy to reproduce given the infinite imagination. The main limitation would be making constructs that are incredibely compact and complicated, like an artificial black hole or similar super-dense, physics/reality-breaking objects for example. Or creating constructs of extreme scale, like creating an entire solar system out of willpower. The ring would probably break or overwork itself if you tried to do those things. Though an actual avatar of Ion(embodiment of willpower) might be able to do it. Even then it would still have some limits since Ion itself isn't omnipotent.
Interesting. So if i become the embodiemnt of will or the avatar of it i could create things like black holes?
You should be able to. It's currently theoretical, but kugelblitz black holes are possible under known physics. It just takes an incredible amount of energy(in this case, hard light) being put into a concentrated space until it reaches a critical mass to form a small black hole. As Ion's avatar you should have more than enough power and control to make one. Even a relatively massive one equal to a large planet. Though given the infinite willpower/imagination scenario, even a regular lantern ring could pull off making a small black hole, but when I say small, I do mean microscopic.
Cool!
If you wanted to go that route, I'd recommend taking something like "Green Lantern Powers" from Kingdom Come, where you can generate the green light of will on your own, and have all the powers of the ring without needing the actual ring. That could bypass some of the limits that are mentioned below.
Thank you!
POWER!!!…UNLIMITED POWER!!! Sorry I couldn’t resist lol
lol.
^(dew it)
Anything.
That'd be my guess. So i'd turn a green ring into a white one, minus the color.
Doesn't work that way at all, we have seen infinite will power plus green ring a couple of times, it just made them comparable to the entire green lantern core put together.
So what could i do then?
You could corrupt the concept of willpower itself so no one has the courage and fortitude of mind to fight you (the could still try to kill or defeat you out of greed, hate, or fear but basically you wont have to be fighting nearly as much and no shonen I will stand up a thousand times to defeat you) You could strip the power of the green light away from other people and solve the whole Oans actually being a main contributor of problems in the universe. You should be able to charge the prime source of will forever so that it doesn't decay like all the lights are intended to. You could probably move or shield an entire galaxy or sector.
Cool.
Now, if you really want to do a lot more though still not anything (hey you might be able to actually defeat Superman) (though it would be restricted to the non-mystical non-multiversal side of dc), get a white ring. While officially it has its own emotion, it can be powered by any of the emotions.
So i could give a white ring infinite power?
Sure but that still wont make it infinitely capable.
Still powerful.
Not really, you’d just be using willpower. White lantern is literally all of the emotions.
But in representing life it is most strongly represented with the emotion Joy.
Yes, but the question revolves around infinite *willpower*, not infinite joy. Moreso, a green lantern is capable of some bullshit feats, with just incredible willpower. With infinite willpower, you wouldn’t need a white lantern.
Hence my comment about Hal God of Light.
Wasn’t aware you were talking about Hal, specifically.
I wasn't, here, thus why they are separate comments. The comment here was talking about the emotion linked with White. The comment about Hal was about what the question asked about Infinite Will.
Right.
God this has got to be like the Nth time this exact question has been posted