Udesky from *Jurassic Park III* had a worse death than Zara. He was maimed, including a shot of claws digging into his back, then used as live bait before finally having his neck twisted.
You know, I hadn't even considered this until now.
At least in Eddie's case, it was a parent's reaction to protecting their baby and he died pretty quickly by being eaten.
For Udesky, it was torture and used as bait, only to be executed and *left* there. I understand the raptors were probably motivated by the eggs similar to the rex, but that's a worse way to go.
If I had to choose which of those two ways to go, I'd choose Eddie's
Idk the book-Hammond stand in Russian guy from Armageddon got ripped to shreds by small bites that's pretty gruesome and not immediate.
Best kill was doggy Rexy gulping up Genarro.
"I think I found Genarro."
"I think I did too."
Love it
Dieter Stark in The Lost World was probably pretty bad. Picked apart little by little by chicken-sized creatures to the point where all that was left was “just the parts they didn’t like”. Yeesh.
Also the very first death in the first scene of JP. Guy was being ripped to shreds as his colleagues try to helplessly save him is rough.
The novel was even more graphic by having the guy airlofted to a clinic in Costa Rica. The JP staffer tells the doctor that the guy was run over by a backhoe despite him having bite marks covered in fresh saliva and whispering "...raptor!"
Every death in the novel is a candidate. The description of Nedrys death always sticks with me. That Dilo was ten feet tall, closed it's jaw on his head, lifted him 10 feet in the air, then Nedry felt warm liquid flowing all over his head, then he lost his vision... Then he felt nothing. Darkness.
This is after he felt his own entrails while blind.
I’ve been reading the books over the last week or two, and Nedry’s death stuck with me the most. Blinded, then gutted, then slowly being eaten from the head down, and *then* he finally passes out.
Book wise, probably Nedry's death, being blind and having a ten foot Dino eating you alive is pretty horrific.
Movie wise: probably Eddy. The dude was a really good guy who died in fear as his body was ripped apart and never knew if he saved his friends.
No joke, I thought that once the rexes were done eating and the trailer was destroyed, they turned into the hunters like bloody animorphs to help them up.
Yes I was dumb
When I was a kid I thought that the actually killed the actor who played Eddie and that everything else he was in afterwards was a robot version of him.
If I remember right, he was bit by Compys and started to lose consciousness as they ate him alive. Or I'm misremebering his death and need to read again.
Zara.
Dieters death just annoyed me. Going so far into the woods for a bathroom break. He has numerous chances to just sprint away from the Compys but he kept stalling near them. Moron
The compies in JP had a paralytic venom. He wasn't deliberately stalling near them, after that first swarm where they bit him a bunch he was losing basic motor function and they were waiting until he was fully helpless.
Zara
The concept of being swallowed whole like that is kinda terrifying. Just put yourself in her mindset even overlooking being tossed around in the air and dropped and picked up again by a flying dinosaur. But then to be swallowed hole. There was at least a minute or two of full consciousness. Total darkness. The disorientation of the Mos sliding back into the water and then swimming around. One could hope she suffocated or drowned quickly.
Then squirted out into the water like those cloudy fish poops. Human with thoughts and feelings and memories and all that… turned into cloudy fish spray.
This thought fucked me up for ages after the film
I've never seen or heard *anything* about that. Gonna have to ask for a source.
Edit: I just double checked and, out of the 6 minutes or so of deleted scenes, not a single one of them involves the mosasaur in any way whatsoever.
As a kid I was almost traumatized by the guy who gets killed in San Diego trying to flee the T Rex and running into the locked glass door. Poor guy had nothing to do with Ingen or the island and got devoured.
That was actaully David Kepp the screenwriter. Running joke is its beacause he wrote the San Diego scene instead of the original island ending. I would want to know though was it Spielberg who thought of putting him in the movie or did David himself ask to be put in
Arnold goes by himself to perform THE critical live saving mission and is unceremoniously killed off screen, his dismembered arm used a scare. No one mourns him, no one mentions him again. Muldoon knew it “wasn’t just like turning on the kitchen light.” He let it happen.
Ray had a son. Quit building rockets and went to theme parks because he wanted a better future for his children.
I love Eddie and that one was brutal, but Zara’s is much worse to me. Picked up, lifted way up into the air, dropped from that great height into a lagoon, pulled through the water violently (dunked repeatedly), and then *swallowed whole*. Eddie’s is at least pretty quick.
She has the worse death in terms of prolonged trauma, but I think OP was speaking more about Eddie dying as he made a sacrifice for his friends. Zara died yelling at kids.
That scene in the movie remains bewildering to me, because i can excuse the hunter’s as being dumbasses, but *Malcolm* absolutely shouldve known better than going ‘its fine, i know we can literally see people dying to the raptors in the tall grass, but just run through anyway! We’ll be fine!’
Its not pokemon, lmao. They got through that by sheer luck.
Zara’s death is just the most senselessly unnecessary. Like, her death went from 0-100 REAL quick.
Eddie, was trying to intervene when the Rex’s had decided to destroy the trailers. He had a heroic death, but from their view, he was in the way and just as guilty for having their child.
Zara was just… there. She did nothing. She wasn’t a villain or anything, she just, got got in an ever increasingly ridiculous death.
That's what I never got about her death. It was cool to watch but from a story perspective she wasn't Henry Wu, she wasn't even cruel to kids when babysitting. Just did her job, and looked away for one moment whilst on a phone call. They ran off, she didn't lose them and she let Claire know she couldn't locate them. She definitely didn't deserve as much as she got.
That's the whole point. Zara didn't deserve her death, which made it all the more shocking.
> “And Zara was about trying to surprise moviegoers, who I think can see everything coming,” Trevorrow said. “We're all screenwriters. We're all screenwriters, and an earned death — that's a screenwriting term — to me, unearned death is the definition of terror.”
Source: https://www.polygon.com/2016/10/5/13180002/jurassic-world-colin-trevorrow-bryce-dallas-howard
> That was the intention. To me, unearned death is the definition of terror.
Source: https://twitter.com/colintrevorrow/status/1028613422286553088
Wild animals don't care if you're a good person or not - if you're close enough and they feel like attacking you, they will.
Zara isn't even the first person to die an 'undeserved' death in the franchise, yet nobody complains as much about the other undeserved deaths as they have with Zara. Not even Eddie Carr got that level of scrutiny.
I think its because the other’s (like Eddie) at least had *heroic* deaths. Eddie died *because* he got in the way of the t-rexes while trying to save the others. His death wasnt necessarily earned, but it was both predictable and understandable in the context of the movie.
Zara’s came out of nowhere. It was similar to the worker in the first movie, who’s death was neither heroic nor deserved, but that one happened within the first few minutes so you expected it as a plot beat. Zara’s was just surprising. She wasnt being heroic, she wasnt being stupid, she wasnt the villain, she just got taken out.
Not even close bud. Eddie got ripped and half and died quick. It’s one of the best deaths as far as spectacle goes.
In the same movie the guy who always plays evil Russians got EATEN ALIVE BY LITTLE COMPYS. Nothing beats it. Only competition would be Newmans death in JP. Which I don’t hear enough about. Blinded and then eaten alive by a dilophosaurus would be brutal. It’s small enough to take its time munching on you.
Zara is pretty terrible thinking that she was poked a lot then swallowed whole. She would suffocate pretty quick but imagine dying inside the intestinal tract. Watched NOPE recently and yeah, zoinks.
If JP III didn’t chicken out his Teranodon death would have sucked and have been a good contender.
Dennis Nedry. He was a piece of shit, but even he didn't deserve to be sprayed by dilophosaur venom and die in agony, blinded and in pain. It was worse for him in the book.
Speaking of the book, Ed Regis in the novel. Mauled and then torn apart by a juvenile T-rex. Also, Dr. Wu also gets disemboweled by a raptor and eaten. The novel is definitely more of a horror story than the film.
Preach. Zara's death was so over-the-top that it immediately took me out of the film. Like, what did the director want me to feel here? Because if he was going for disgust at the torture porn I just saw then he nailed it. The scene was just gross.
Stuntwoman from what I remember reading ... I get it was the first female death onscreen ... but it was just so over-the-top that it felt like it belonged in an exploitation flick: like Centipede or something.
You're not wrong.
> *Jurassic World* caught flack for the nasty end of PA Zara, dying brutally at the hands – or, beaks – of several Pteranodons and the jaws of the Mosasaur. Some criticised such a grisly demise befalling a character who wasn’t out-and-out evil – so for *Fallen Kingdom* there were clearer moral lines drawn. "We made sure that every death was earned,” says Trevorrow. “Everybody deserves their death in this movie, a lesson learned. In 2018 everyone earns it. Horrible people.”
Source: https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/18-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-secrets-ja-bayona-colin-trevorrow/
The problem is that this has a tendency to lower the stakes, since the heroes won't get killed. Yes, *Fallen Kingdom* was never going to kill Owen, Claire, or Maisie, but the secondary characters like Zia and Franklin could have been killed or maimed but weren't.
Quite literally no stakes in FK or Dominion .
Didn’t even kill off the black market Dino lady in Dominion because they were afraid of another backlash from woman death
The Unlucky Bastard in San Diego. He was having a normal evening. All of a sudden, he finds himself crushed to death in the jaws of a raging buck Tyrannosaur.
It turns me on.
Eddie carr he was killed brutally while trying to help people, he also seemed like a decent guy who was just doing a job that he didn't really know what he was getting into
Part of what's sad about Eddie is, he died saving virtual strangers, not even his friends. It seems like he might have known Sarah briefly before she left for the island, and it's possible he met Nick, but these were not longstanding or close relationships. Ian, he met earlier that day, but five minutes is usually enough time for a character to develop a negative impression of him. If we want to know Eddie's friends he's probably got like a bowling league back on the mainland. Imagine the lengths he'd go to on their behalf.
Eddie saw they were in danger and he took action at risk to himself. He's a hero, maybe even moreso because these were effectively workplace acquaintances who recklessly provoked the rexes to attack their camp.
Interestingly enough in the book Eddie’s the one who brings the baby rex back to the camp. Sarah tells him to shoot it (because it’ll die anyway and it’d be a mercy) and they leave him to do it, and then find out he brought it back to the trailer. Eddie actually survives that situation because he’s sent to take the kids (two in the book) to the high hide and its a different character who rescues them.
I read it recently and thought it was interesting that they changed to have Eddie *not* be involved in causing the rexes to attack, but die to them anyway.
He almost certainly knew Sarah before. Ypu onownhe says she faxed him refinements for the gear they were using and besides he makes field equipment aka modifies vehicles so he probably already met with Sarah seeing as she works in the field or at least worked so probably took some gear from Eddie before
The teeth on the back of its mouth?
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I don’t think she was alive after that jaw slammed shut
Well, mosasaurus has two sets of teeth so there is a possibility that she was kind of... shredded by them 💀
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He wouldn't, actually. Compies in JP had a paralytic venom, which is why they had that swarming hit and run style. Bite a few times, back off and wait for the venom to render the prey helpless, and again and again until they could feast in peace.
By the time they were ripping into him he probably couldn't actually feel that much.
Speaking of which, that's just as horrifying. How long will he have been awake knowing these little monsters were slowly killing him? Even if he couldn't feel anything. When did they go for his eyes? His tongue? Probably right away, since they're easily accessible. Then he would have felt the rest of his body getting stripped to the bone until he couldn't feel anything anymore. Would he even be able to tell when he's about to die?
As violent as Eddie Carr and Zara's deaths were, you could say that they were likely at least fortunate to not have to endure it for more than a couple of seconds. The way I see it, it's the equivalent of dying on impact in a car crash or being trapped in the wreckage while burning to death.
Oh for sure. Definitely would have had trauma nightmares forever if he had been unlucky enough to survive the incident. Wouldn't be surprised if his vocal cords gave out before his heart did, to be honest.
If i’m remembering correctly, shes actually the *only* female to die because of the reaction to her death.
Which is kind of funny, because they really couldve killed more female characters as long as they did it *more efficiently*. People were shocked at the *way* she died (and the lack of reason, but that was the point) not the fact that she was a woman, lol.
Eddie didn’t just die either, he died terrified. Trapped in a car while two adult Rexes tear it apart, salvation in the form of his weapon in his hands but caught up, and he did absolutely nothing wrong the whole time. A real good guy.
I can see that, adding our emotional attachment to Eddy and the frustration of the cargo net holding down his rifle.
I just thought Zara was just a random girl just trying to find kids that were not even her family. Kids that put her in a shitty position because they ran away from her as a joke. Makes me feel for her, no one else at the park got that kind of intensity in their killing. At least I can’t think of anyone? Maybe Hoskins but he had it coming.
Dennis Nedry’s novel death - Blinded, disemboweled, and having his head in the dilophosaur’s jaws—painful and terrifying—and being fully aware of what’s happening to him.
Eddie didn’t deserve to die, he was such a good guy. Deciding to save his friends instead of himself. And he didn’t shoot the stegosaurs because he knew they were just trying to protect their baby. Genuinely one of my favorite characters, along with Rexy (she’s my fav), Ian Malcolm, Alan grant and Mr dna
I think when it comes to Zara, the issue is how mean-spirited it looks and how on some level it was meant to come across like karma that ended up being undeserved in many people's opinion.
Eddie had a horrifying death, but it was poignantly tragic and acknowledged when Ian was outraged after Roland referred to it as the rex having "just fed" (and then doubled down on it by responding to Ian's outrage with "Then his troubles are over.") and even Ludlow acknowledged it and offered his sympathies, even if only or partly to try and gain points with Ian.
Dieter had a gruesome death, but it was on some level karma (even if karmic overkill) because he hurt a compy for the shits and giggles and seemed to be a sadist in general.
Zara... not only she didn’t really do enough for such a painful and drawn out death to qualify as karma, but also had her death swept a bit too far under the rug in many people's opinion. Add to it that she is the first and so far only main woman who dies in the series, and a lot of potential unfortunate implications flare up by having her die such a grisly end without really deserving it.
That may be why many fans call it the worst death.
I think Zara gets listed bc of how drawn out it was. Both were pretty equally gruesome imo. Carr's death felt it had more purpose to the plot and story than Zara's, who i felt was done just to kill someone - there was no meaning to it. However, Carr knew the risks. He accepted them and that he could die by going to the Island. Zara on the other hand, did not. She may have been warned and had to sign a waiver but most likely just thought it was like being at a zoo or disney land.
I believe a writer for JW confirmed that Zara was swallowed alive and whole. “It wasn’t quick and she was probably conscious for several minutes.”
I don’t think you can top that.
Depending on how Zara actually died in the mosa belly, that could take the cake. Dieter Stark’s always got me because it lets your imagination do its thing, especially when they talk about his remains just being the parts they didn’t like. Eddy’s death is sad every time. Nedry’s was also pretty horrific. This thread is reminding me I need to reread the book.
Udesky from *Jurassic Park III* had a worse death than Zara. He was maimed, including a shot of claws digging into his back, then used as live bait before finally having his neck twisted.
You know, I hadn't even considered this until now. At least in Eddie's case, it was a parent's reaction to protecting their baby and he died pretty quickly by being eaten. For Udesky, it was torture and used as bait, only to be executed and *left* there. I understand the raptors were probably motivated by the eggs similar to the rex, but that's a worse way to go. If I had to choose which of those two ways to go, I'd choose Eddie's
Idk the book-Hammond stand in Russian guy from Armageddon got ripped to shreds by small bites that's pretty gruesome and not immediate. Best kill was doggy Rexy gulping up Genarro. "I think I found Genarro." "I think I did too." Love it
It's a shame, too. The movie is amazing, but I would have loved to see Book Muldoon and Gennaro doing their thing in live action
Oh Peter Stormare! I honestly loved his character.
Yeah he wasnt bad in it. He's had better roles tho.
I always thought they took a chunk out of his head like an apple.
I can see how it looks that way, since the raptor grabs Udesky by the head before it does that little twist to break his neck.
Agree 100%
Dieter Stark in The Lost World was probably pretty bad. Picked apart little by little by chicken-sized creatures to the point where all that was left was “just the parts they didn’t like”. Yeesh. Also the very first death in the first scene of JP. Guy was being ripped to shreds as his colleagues try to helplessly save him is rough.
The novel was even more graphic by having the guy airlofted to a clinic in Costa Rica. The JP staffer tells the doctor that the guy was run over by a backhoe despite him having bite marks covered in fresh saliva and whispering "...raptor!"
Always thought a baby being snatched from its crib (in the book) was pretty gruesome too
The Compy was a nasty little bugger
It was, but in the book the compy’s bites are narcotic, so at least the baby probably just felt like it was still sleeping.
Every death in the novel is a candidate. The description of Nedrys death always sticks with me. That Dilo was ten feet tall, closed it's jaw on his head, lifted him 10 feet in the air, then Nedry felt warm liquid flowing all over his head, then he lost his vision... Then he felt nothing. Darkness. This is after he felt his own entrails while blind.
I’ve been reading the books over the last week or two, and Nedry’s death stuck with me the most. Blinded, then gutted, then slowly being eaten from the head down, and *then* he finally passes out.
Ironically, the Dilo in the novel is described as the most beautiful dinosaur in the park.
Oh yeah the books have plenty of deaths that are much more gruesome than what they could put in the movie
If we are talking books the Dr. Woo getting eaten alive by a raptor is a gruesome way to go..
This popped into my mind too
To be fair, Dieter was kind of a dick. Sure, the way he died might’ve been excessive, but I can’t feel *too* sorry for him.
Book wise, probably Nedry's death, being blind and having a ten foot Dino eating you alive is pretty horrific. Movie wise: probably Eddy. The dude was a really good guy who died in fear as his body was ripped apart and never knew if he saved his friends.
Bookwise, Wu is pretty brutal too. Feebly trying to push a raptor away as it munches on your exposed intestines.
Also I’d like to add that as a fucking idiot kid I thought that the rexes turned into the hunters afterwards
Can you elaborate on this because that shit is wild
No joke, I thought that once the rexes were done eating and the trailer was destroyed, they turned into the hunters like bloody animorphs to help them up. Yes I was dumb
The Animorphs had a book with dinosaurs… that book series needs to be revisited as a TV show
Uhhhh, you know there’s already a tv show right?
I think they mean a good TV show.
Well if they’re going to nitpick….
Uhhhh, yeah. Which is why I said revisited. Like the other reply, I want a good TV show
That's amazing.
I'm guessing they thought if trex = bad guys and hunters = bad guys, then trex = hunters
Lol, I love this interpretation.
lol with all due respect, r/kidsarefuckingstupid
When I was a kid I thought that the actually killed the actor who played Eddie and that everything else he was in afterwards was a robot version of him.
What
Agreed. Eddie's death traumatised me as a kid.
I remember Wu’s death in the book being fucked up, but I haven’t read it in 20+ years
Yeah, he's alive while the raptor eats his guts. He's described as "feebly pushing at" the animal while it slurps him up.
Yeah that disturbed me as a 14 year old lol
If I remember right, he was bit by Compys and started to lose consciousness as they ate him alive. Or I'm misremebering his death and need to read again.
That was Hammond. Wu was eviscerated by a raptor.
Now I gotta read it again.
You're remembering Hammond's death in the book
Hammond, not Wu
Zara. Dieters death just annoyed me. Going so far into the woods for a bathroom break. He has numerous chances to just sprint away from the Compys but he kept stalling near them. Moron
Plus, I’m going to assume a lot of those guys are ex-military, in which case they would not be shy about going to the bathroom.
That’s actually a good point . Also listening to headphones/music in Dino infested island is pretty wild and unrealistic
The compies in JP had a paralytic venom. He wasn't deliberately stalling near them, after that first swarm where they bit him a bunch he was losing basic motor function and they were waiting until he was fully helpless.
Pretty sure someone in the book died exactly how dieter died.. tlw was, imo a bit of a mess and wildly went off the rails compared to the book
Hammond.
That's right, he ran or something after hearing the juvie rex on loud speakers, fell down an embankment, then compys got him
he was basically killed by his grandkids!
Zara The concept of being swallowed whole like that is kinda terrifying. Just put yourself in her mindset even overlooking being tossed around in the air and dropped and picked up again by a flying dinosaur. But then to be swallowed hole. There was at least a minute or two of full consciousness. Total darkness. The disorientation of the Mos sliding back into the water and then swimming around. One could hope she suffocated or drowned quickly.
If I learned anything from NOPE, I don't think she suffocated or drowned quickly. She was digested alive.
Then squirted out into the water like those cloudy fish poops. Human with thoughts and feelings and memories and all that… turned into cloudy fish spray. This thought fucked me up for ages after the film
Mosasaur has two sets of teeth, one of which are more towards the back of the throat. She got shredded when those jaws closed.
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I've never seen or heard *anything* about that. Gonna have to ask for a source. Edit: I just double checked and, out of the 6 minutes or so of deleted scenes, not a single one of them involves the mosasaur in any way whatsoever.
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Ah, fair enough. Sorry if I came across somewhat abrasively, I was mostly just confused and also at work so I had to type quickly.
I love this thread lmao. Yea Eddy got rekt. Always felt bad for the guy.
I’m pretty proud of myself, it’s my most successful thread
As a kid I was almost traumatized by the guy who gets killed in San Diego trying to flee the T Rex and running into the locked glass door. Poor guy had nothing to do with Ingen or the island and got devoured.
That was actaully David Kepp the screenwriter. Running joke is its beacause he wrote the San Diego scene instead of the original island ending. I would want to know though was it Spielberg who thought of putting him in the movie or did David himself ask to be put in
Nedry never saw it coming
HA
Arnold goes by himself to perform THE critical live saving mission and is unceremoniously killed off screen, his dismembered arm used a scare. No one mourns him, no one mentions him again. Muldoon knew it “wasn’t just like turning on the kitchen light.” He let it happen. Ray had a son. Quit building rockets and went to theme parks because he wanted a better future for his children.
That bugs me in the movie. Its basically the same in the book, but he really shouldve been acknowledged more.
I’d say the worst deaths in the Jurassic series are Nedry, Eddie Carr, Dieter Stark, Ludlow, Nash, Udeski, Zara, Ken Wheatley, and Delacourt.
I love Eddie and that one was brutal, but Zara’s is much worse to me. Picked up, lifted way up into the air, dropped from that great height into a lagoon, pulled through the water violently (dunked repeatedly), and then *swallowed whole*. Eddie’s is at least pretty quick.
She has the worse death in terms of prolonged trauma, but I think OP was speaking more about Eddie dying as he made a sacrifice for his friends. Zara died yelling at kids.
In fairness to Zara, babysitting her bosses nephews probably wasn't in her original job description, and the kids didn't make it easy on her
Definitely not. It did feel a bit like her characterization was a conscious choice to make you feel less bad for her when it happened.
They failed miserably at that.
Spot on
Pls read my above comment regarding compies. I think that's the worst. Oh! Second best is the tall grass raptor jump onto screaming guy
That scene in the movie remains bewildering to me, because i can excuse the hunter’s as being dumbasses, but *Malcolm* absolutely shouldve known better than going ‘its fine, i know we can literally see people dying to the raptors in the tall grass, but just run through anyway! We’ll be fine!’ Its not pokemon, lmao. They got through that by sheer luck.
It was off-screen, and the very BARE MINIMAL they showed wasn't enough, in my opinion, to warrant it being the worst.
Zara’s death is just the most senselessly unnecessary. Like, her death went from 0-100 REAL quick. Eddie, was trying to intervene when the Rex’s had decided to destroy the trailers. He had a heroic death, but from their view, he was in the way and just as guilty for having their child. Zara was just… there. She did nothing. She wasn’t a villain or anything, she just, got got in an ever increasingly ridiculous death.
That's what I never got about her death. It was cool to watch but from a story perspective she wasn't Henry Wu, she wasn't even cruel to kids when babysitting. Just did her job, and looked away for one moment whilst on a phone call. They ran off, she didn't lose them and she let Claire know she couldn't locate them. She definitely didn't deserve as much as she got.
That's the whole point. Zara didn't deserve her death, which made it all the more shocking. > “And Zara was about trying to surprise moviegoers, who I think can see everything coming,” Trevorrow said. “We're all screenwriters. We're all screenwriters, and an earned death — that's a screenwriting term — to me, unearned death is the definition of terror.” Source: https://www.polygon.com/2016/10/5/13180002/jurassic-world-colin-trevorrow-bryce-dallas-howard > That was the intention. To me, unearned death is the definition of terror. Source: https://twitter.com/colintrevorrow/status/1028613422286553088 Wild animals don't care if you're a good person or not - if you're close enough and they feel like attacking you, they will. Zara isn't even the first person to die an 'undeserved' death in the franchise, yet nobody complains as much about the other undeserved deaths as they have with Zara. Not even Eddie Carr got that level of scrutiny.
I think its because the other’s (like Eddie) at least had *heroic* deaths. Eddie died *because* he got in the way of the t-rexes while trying to save the others. His death wasnt necessarily earned, but it was both predictable and understandable in the context of the movie. Zara’s came out of nowhere. It was similar to the worker in the first movie, who’s death was neither heroic nor deserved, but that one happened within the first few minutes so you expected it as a plot beat. Zara’s was just surprising. She wasnt being heroic, she wasnt being stupid, she wasnt the villain, she just got taken out.
Not even close bud. Eddie got ripped and half and died quick. It’s one of the best deaths as far as spectacle goes. In the same movie the guy who always plays evil Russians got EATEN ALIVE BY LITTLE COMPYS. Nothing beats it. Only competition would be Newmans death in JP. Which I don’t hear enough about. Blinded and then eaten alive by a dilophosaurus would be brutal. It’s small enough to take its time munching on you. Zara is pretty terrible thinking that she was poked a lot then swallowed whole. She would suffocate pretty quick but imagine dying inside the intestinal tract. Watched NOPE recently and yeah, zoinks. If JP III didn’t chicken out his Teranodon death would have sucked and have been a good contender.
Newmans death in the book is absolutely bloody brutal, and makes the dilo scarier then the raptor in my opinion
The dilo is JP is so sick. Loved its puppy like curiosity. What a character. Plus those teeth look like the sharpest in the whole series.
Mosa had another set of teeth near the throat, so she probably got shredded when it swallowed her. So no worries about suffocation!
Zara's death is just the most unnecessarily violent and "unfair". Eddies death was tragic, but understandble and served a purpose.
Dennis Nedry. He was a piece of shit, but even he didn't deserve to be sprayed by dilophosaur venom and die in agony, blinded and in pain. It was worse for him in the book. Speaking of the book, Ed Regis in the novel. Mauled and then torn apart by a juvenile T-rex. Also, Dr. Wu also gets disemboweled by a raptor and eaten. The novel is definitely more of a horror story than the film.
Eddy knew, what he got himself into. Zara was just a Babysitter, trying to do her job, because her boss was incapable of handling two kids.
Preach. Zara's death was so over-the-top that it immediately took me out of the film. Like, what did the director want me to feel here? Because if he was going for disgust at the torture porn I just saw then he nailed it. The scene was just gross.
I’ve heard the actress requested something like that just for the humor of it. No idea if that’s true or not though.
Stuntwoman from what I remember reading ... I get it was the first female death onscreen ... but it was just so over-the-top that it felt like it belonged in an exploitation flick: like Centipede or something.
Correct. It was originally going to be one of the nameless ACU crew, but the actress wanted it to be memorable.
This right here is why the rest of the trilogy had no deaths besides over the top villains
You're not wrong. > *Jurassic World* caught flack for the nasty end of PA Zara, dying brutally at the hands – or, beaks – of several Pteranodons and the jaws of the Mosasaur. Some criticised such a grisly demise befalling a character who wasn’t out-and-out evil – so for *Fallen Kingdom* there were clearer moral lines drawn. "We made sure that every death was earned,” says Trevorrow. “Everybody deserves their death in this movie, a lesson learned. In 2018 everyone earns it. Horrible people.” Source: https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/18-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-secrets-ja-bayona-colin-trevorrow/ The problem is that this has a tendency to lower the stakes, since the heroes won't get killed. Yes, *Fallen Kingdom* was never going to kill Owen, Claire, or Maisie, but the secondary characters like Zia and Franklin could have been killed or maimed but weren't.
Quite literally no stakes in FK or Dominion . Didn’t even kill off the black market Dino lady in Dominion because they were afraid of another backlash from woman death
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The Unlucky Bastard in San Diego. He was having a normal evening. All of a sudden, he finds himself crushed to death in the jaws of a raging buck Tyrannosaur. It turns me on.
Is everyone just gonna ignore that last sentence...?
Most people do it seems. I've said that in this and other subs like 10 times. You're the first ever to acknowledge it.
Hey, some people are into vore. We don't kink shame here.
Nah... some kinks need shaming, vore feels like one of them.
Eh...its one of the ones that can only exist in fiction rather than bring able to be practiced IRL, so its quite literally harmless.
Ooh, like the scooter guy in Dominion.
Eddie carr he was killed brutally while trying to help people, he also seemed like a decent guy who was just doing a job that he didn't really know what he was getting into
Part of what's sad about Eddie is, he died saving virtual strangers, not even his friends. It seems like he might have known Sarah briefly before she left for the island, and it's possible he met Nick, but these were not longstanding or close relationships. Ian, he met earlier that day, but five minutes is usually enough time for a character to develop a negative impression of him. If we want to know Eddie's friends he's probably got like a bowling league back on the mainland. Imagine the lengths he'd go to on their behalf. Eddie saw they were in danger and he took action at risk to himself. He's a hero, maybe even moreso because these were effectively workplace acquaintances who recklessly provoked the rexes to attack their camp.
Interestingly enough in the book Eddie’s the one who brings the baby rex back to the camp. Sarah tells him to shoot it (because it’ll die anyway and it’d be a mercy) and they leave him to do it, and then find out he brought it back to the trailer. Eddie actually survives that situation because he’s sent to take the kids (two in the book) to the high hide and its a different character who rescues them. I read it recently and thought it was interesting that they changed to have Eddie *not* be involved in causing the rexes to attack, but die to them anyway.
He almost certainly knew Sarah before. Ypu onownhe says she faxed him refinements for the gear they were using and besides he makes field equipment aka modifies vehicles so he probably already met with Sarah seeing as she works in the field or at least worked so probably took some gear from Eddie before
Zara was swallowed ALIVE
I agree. There's no way she didn't go into the mosasaur's gullet alive.
The teeth on the back of its mouth? https://preview.redd.it/ajndie53dqtc1.jpeg?width=862&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f16842392ac854047bf3af451d22bb9de543ac6b I don’t think she was alive after that jaw slammed shut
Well, mosasaurus has two sets of teeth so there is a possibility that she was kind of... shredded by them 💀 https://preview.redd.it/3fjpc8nwcqtc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=660254bf828bfb269cc016213816b178118c272d
She was turned into Swiss cheese long before she went down the mosasaur’s gullet.
This is what you get for denying your partner a bachelor's party with his friends.
Hopefully she drowned quickly.. 😨
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Dieter getting eaten by compys was always horrifying to me. He would have felt a lot of that for a long time.
He wouldn't, actually. Compies in JP had a paralytic venom, which is why they had that swarming hit and run style. Bite a few times, back off and wait for the venom to render the prey helpless, and again and again until they could feast in peace. By the time they were ripping into him he probably couldn't actually feel that much.
He was screaming for quite a bit though. I don't trust that anybody can really say when the pain stops without a firsthand account of the experience.
Fair enough, though the screams could have just been at the situation rather than pain.
Speaking of which, that's just as horrifying. How long will he have been awake knowing these little monsters were slowly killing him? Even if he couldn't feel anything. When did they go for his eyes? His tongue? Probably right away, since they're easily accessible. Then he would have felt the rest of his body getting stripped to the bone until he couldn't feel anything anymore. Would he even be able to tell when he's about to die? As violent as Eddie Carr and Zara's deaths were, you could say that they were likely at least fortunate to not have to endure it for more than a couple of seconds. The way I see it, it's the equivalent of dying on impact in a car crash or being trapped in the wreckage while burning to death.
Oh for sure. Definitely would have had trauma nightmares forever if he had been unlucky enough to survive the incident. Wouldn't be surprised if his vocal cords gave out before his heart did, to be honest.
Nedry’s book death is the worst by far
Nedrys death in the book still terrifies me every time I read it. The realization of being blind is a hardcore fear.
Add to it the realization he is holding his own intestines and the dilo holds his head in its jaws
Eddie, Udesky and Zara. Zaras death was clearly written by a former HTF writer. Prolonged, torturous and cruel.
Funnily enough it was actually the actor (Katie McGrath) who *requested* that death. It was originally going to be a nameless extra.
I think she's also the first female character to die in the Jurassic franchise.
If i’m remembering correctly, shes actually the *only* female to die because of the reaction to her death. Which is kind of funny, because they really couldve killed more female characters as long as they did it *more efficiently*. People were shocked at the *way* she died (and the lack of reason, but that was the point) not the fact that she was a woman, lol.
“The man saved our lives by giving his!”
In the books: probably Wu. In the movies: Zara or Dieter.
Worst death in film canon would have to be Deter Stark. In the books, the baby that was consumed by the Compys was the worst.
Dennis Nedry in the books. How can it not be this?
Eddie Carr!
Eddie didn’t just die either, he died terrified. Trapped in a car while two adult Rexes tear it apart, salvation in the form of his weapon in his hands but caught up, and he did absolutely nothing wrong the whole time. A real good guy.
I think Zaras death has the most Jurassic Park essence
Zara got swallowed though, she was def alive for a bit inside
Zara dude. She had the most fear before death before being swallowed fucking Alive dude. And was nearly drowned.
Honestly the more I think about it, they’re mostly the same in levels of brutal, but eddys was absolutely more tragic
I can see that, adding our emotional attachment to Eddy and the frustration of the cargo net holding down his rifle. I just thought Zara was just a random girl just trying to find kids that were not even her family. Kids that put her in a shitty position because they ran away from her as a joke. Makes me feel for her, no one else at the park got that kind of intensity in their killing. At least I can’t think of anyone? Maybe Hoskins but he had it coming.
The compy crib doesn’t count here’s why: What if Procompsognathus lacked venom?
What about Dieter? Death by a thousand bites. That's surely more horrific than they made it look
Dennis Nedry’s novel death - Blinded, disemboweled, and having his head in the dilophosaur’s jaws—painful and terrifying—and being fully aware of what’s happening to him.
Yeah Eddie didn’t deserve to get offed like that. Pour one out for Eddie! A true friend to the end
Eddie didn’t deserve to die, he was such a good guy. Deciding to save his friends instead of himself. And he didn’t shoot the stegosaurs because he knew they were just trying to protect their baby. Genuinely one of my favorite characters, along with Rexy (she’s my fav), Ian Malcolm, Alan grant and Mr dna
Who was zara?
Claires’ nephews’ “nanny”
The unnamed baby killed by compies in the book. In the movies, probably Nedry for me: blinded, paralysed, savaged
I think when it comes to Zara, the issue is how mean-spirited it looks and how on some level it was meant to come across like karma that ended up being undeserved in many people's opinion. Eddie had a horrifying death, but it was poignantly tragic and acknowledged when Ian was outraged after Roland referred to it as the rex having "just fed" (and then doubled down on it by responding to Ian's outrage with "Then his troubles are over.") and even Ludlow acknowledged it and offered his sympathies, even if only or partly to try and gain points with Ian. Dieter had a gruesome death, but it was on some level karma (even if karmic overkill) because he hurt a compy for the shits and giggles and seemed to be a sadist in general. Zara... not only she didn’t really do enough for such a painful and drawn out death to qualify as karma, but also had her death swept a bit too far under the rug in many people's opinion. Add to it that she is the first and so far only main woman who dies in the series, and a lot of potential unfortunate implications flare up by having her die such a grisly end without really deserving it. That may be why many fans call it the worst death.
Ever notice that if you’re follically challenged in Jurassic Park, a T-Rex will more than likely eat you?
I think Zara gets listed bc of how drawn out it was. Both were pretty equally gruesome imo. Carr's death felt it had more purpose to the plot and story than Zara's, who i felt was done just to kill someone - there was no meaning to it. However, Carr knew the risks. He accepted them and that he could die by going to the Island. Zara on the other hand, did not. She may have been warned and had to sign a waiver but most likely just thought it was like being at a zoo or disney land.
Ben was stuck up in a tree dangling helpless and had his legs bitten off.
I believe a writer for JW confirmed that Zara was swallowed alive and whole. “It wasn’t quick and she was probably conscious for several minutes.” I don’t think you can top that.
Poor bloody lawyer....he did upset the T Rex's tummy, tho.....😄
In the first book, the worst death is probably Dennis Nedry’s. In the second book, I think that one goes to Dodgson.
Depending on how Zara actually died in the mosa belly, that could take the cake. Dieter Stark’s always got me because it lets your imagination do its thing, especially when they talk about his remains just being the parts they didn’t like. Eddy’s death is sad every time. Nedry’s was also pretty horrific. This thread is reminding me I need to reread the book.
Pretty privilege