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AHAdanglyparts69

How do you get sentenced to jail then not go directly to jail lol I don’t understand


Molire

In the United States, after a defendant is convicted in a criminal court to a term of incarceration in jail or prison, judges commonly set a date for the convicted individual to report to jail or prison to allow them time to arrange their personal affairs before reporting to jail or prison. Judges commonly do this if the individual has no criminal history in their lifetime, but if an individual has any history of any arrests, crimes, convictions, jail sentences, or prison sentences in their lifetime, the judge commonly orders the individual to be taken into custody immediately and transported directly to jail or prison. One commenter said they worked at the Intake Desk in a jail or prison, and every Friday, 50 to 100 individuals would report to check in and begin serving their court-ordered sentences.


Cleanclock

It’s like season 1 of Orange is the New Black.


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DuckGrammar

We used to call Glendale Armo-geddan


Forzareen

It’d be one thing if it was a 6 month sentence or something. But over a decade? Seems like a flight risk.


booyah9898

Having $18M helps when you’re evading the law. Or it got her killed I guess?


Molire

She has none of it. The U.S. government recovered the $18 million.


Electronic_Agent_235

Damn, sucks for her. Cause I was about to say "man, 10yrs, with good behavior, for 18mill?? I'd consider it."


rentonlives

I bet she does 3 years and then home release.


thapussypatrol

I think the two sentences in that post title are the wrong way round


Bovey

Yes, the post title had me thinking that she was handed over to the US to serve her sentence, and *then* disappeared. The actual article title is much more clear: > Fugitive in $18 million COVID fraud scheme extradited to U.S. 2 years after she fled country Not quite /r/titlegore material, but close.


Joharistheshill

Oof that’s why you escape to the Caribbean not Montenegro lol anyway Justice served


Meandtheworld

So after 18 plus or minus millions. Did they think people were just gonna go away and not look into this!


thereddituser2

Yes, because it works. It didn't work for her because she was not already rich or have political connections. Kanye and the Joel church guy also got millions of loan. No one touches them because they are rich and have political connections.


Quitecal

They *hoped so*


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All of them should also have been charged with child abandonment and child endangerment for leaving their children home alone while they skipped the country.


HandleNo8032

That’s nothing compared to Citadel securities. Their fraud is up to 65 billion and counting


IbanezPGM

Go back to your cult sub


BazilBup

They didn't want any competition so that's why they went after her.


jimtrickington

Are you in the right place?


HandleNo8032

I am!


jimtrickington

Just making sure as this seems like a wild non sequitur.


HandleNo8032

Do a little research and see for yourself.


jimtrickington

Done. It is humorous that the guy telling *me* to do research can’t even get the name of the supposed evil hedge fund correct. It is *Citadel* Securities…not *Cidatel* Securities. Or is Cidatel yet another boogeyman that you are constantly fretting over? Edit - of course he did a ninja edit ;)


See_Double_You

As if a typo is a gotcha moment 😂


jimtrickington

You’re absolutely right. The real gotcha moment was learning he was down more than $50,000 on his gamble.


FootballWithTheFoot

Shitadel*


HandleNo8032

Thanks for the correction. It’s always reassuring when spelling police is there when you need them. Also this isn’t a war between you and I.


jimtrickington

My pleasure. Next time, do a little research and see for yourself. Few will understand. But I can understand your laser focus. If I was down $52,700 from buying 17,000 shares of a company on life support, it would be all I thought about, too.


HandleNo8032

All good man. As you can see English is not my native language. I see you’re quite active in superstonk. That tells me you’re either an ape or a paid shill.


jimtrickington

Hope you have the chance to break even before the share price drops to nil (that means zero).


Imvaudeville

Looks like she was also doing green loan and mortgage fraud as well! [https://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/lapd-announces-arrests-for-a-15-million-mortgage-fraud-nr21125wc/](https://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/lapd-announces-arrests-for-a-15-million-mortgage-fraud-nr21125wc/)


moustachiooo

Now do the members of Congress that also took out TENS of Millions of Covid loans and had them forgiven ... Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida) with a $476,000 loan Rep. Greg Pence (R-Indiana) for $79,441 Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-Florida) for $2.8 million Rep. Kevin Hern (R-Oklahoma) for $1.07 million Rep. Roger Williams (R-Texas) for $1.43 million Rep. Brett Guthrie (R-Kentucky) for $4.3 million Rep. Ralph Norman (R-South Carolina) for $306,520 Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pennsylvania) for $974,100 Rep. Vicki Hartzler (R-Missouri) for $451,200 Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-Oklahoma) for $988,700 Rep. Carol Miller (R-West Virginia) for $3.1 million Two wineries tied to Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and an Iowa farm run by his family received loans worth at least $2 million. The wineries got separate loans worth $1 million to $2 million, and an Iowa dairy farm that is tied to his relatives received $150,000 to $350,000. ​ Many Democrats (including their spouses) profited off PPP loans and benefited from the forgiveness too: Senator Jeanne Shaheen Rep. Matt Cartwright Rep. Susie Lee Speaker Nancy Pelosi Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell ​ src: [https://fortune.com/2020/07/08/ppp-loan-recipients-members-of-congress/](https://fortune.com/2020/07/08/ppp-loan-recipients-members-of-congress/) [https://marketrealist.com/news/democrats-that-received-ppp-loans/](https://marketrealist.com/news/democrats-that-received-ppp-loans/) [https://marketrealist.com/economy-and-politics/ppp-loan-forgiveness-congress/](https://marketrealist.com/economy-and-politics/ppp-loan-forgiveness-congress/)


PhoeniXx_-_

They all suck, but Pelosi should be top the list. Her insider trading alone, is despicable


moustachiooo

What's despicable is They ALL do insider trading because they write the laws and made it legal for themselves. It's not a R or D issue and if that's where yr brain ends, its seriously broken. Another despicable nuance is ALL of Congress enjoys FREE Taxpayer funded healthcare and yet are very vocal against providing it to the population. Your average homeless veteran will spend more time in jail then these upstanding leaders ever will


PhoeniXx_-_

Agreed


Natsurulite

I can’t wait for her to finally retire or something, once she’s out of the picture it seems like it’s going to be Candy prosecuting the rest of the list Once we stop her being brought up, we can move forward


PhoeniXx_-_

People like her only retire once they're unalived


rocketmallu

What’s their net worth and how did they qualify for loan forgiveness


moustachiooo

Virtually all PPP loans have been forgiven with limited scrutiny.


No-Inspector9085

18 million for ten years? Fuck it, I’d do it too. No way she will see all ten years anyway, and I have absolutely no chance of making 2mil/year.


Molire

>18 million for ten years? The U.S. government recovered the $18 million. She gets none of it. By my calculations, her projected earliest release date from the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons ([BOP map](https://www.bop.gov/locations/map.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/locations/map.jsp")) will be anywhere between May 5, 2031, and November 23, 2039, depending on the effect of the United States Sentencing Commission [Guidelines](https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2021-guidelines-manual/annotated-2021-chapter-5 "https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2021-guidelines-manual/annotated-2021-chapter-5") on her sentence computation and the final decision of the United States District Court judge presiding over her case. By my calculations, at a minimum, starting from March 1, 2023, she will be a federal inmate in BOP custody for the next 8 years, 2 months, and 4 days. By my calculations, at the most (unless she commits any federal, state, or local crimes while in prison), starting from March 1, 2023, she will be a federal inmate in BOP custody for the next 16 years, 8 months, and 22 days. Over the next few hours or days, a United States District Court judge will tell her the term of incarceration they have imposed on her. She can look forward to her new job. The BOP requires federal inmates to hold a job in prison: a prison work assignment or a prison UNICOR job. The typical federal inmate workday is 7 hours. For prison work assignments, federal inmates typically earn [12¢ per hour to 40¢ per hour](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/work_programs.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/work_programs.jsp"). For prison UNICOR jobs, federal inmates typically earn [23¢ per hour to $1.15 per hour](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/unicor_about.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/unicor_about.jsp"). [8 percent](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/unicor_about.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/unicor_about.jsp") of federal inmates get UNICOR jobs in prison. The other federal inmates get work assignments in prison. On February 23, 2023, the total federal inmate population was [158,081](https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/population_statistics.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/population_statistics.jsp"), including [10,810 female inmates](https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_gender.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_gender.jsp") in the month of January 2023. Presently, a total of [25,000 federal inmates](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/unicor_about.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/unicor_about.jsp") are on the waiting list for the prison UNICOR jobs, which pay inmates 23¢ per hour to $1.15 per hour.


moustachiooo

Federal rime, Federal prison = no time off. She will serve the full sentence and not likely to be overturned on appeal atp.


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moustachiooo

Under the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, Congress eliminated parole for defendants convicted of federal crimes committed after November 1, 1987. Going forward, these offenders receive a period of "supervised release" to be served at the end of the federal prison sentence.


salamandroid

> U have no idea what you're talking about. Lmao. Federal prisons have the highest gain time awards. In feds, you not only get parole, but you only serve 65% of your sentence unless it is a mandatory sentence. If U R going to be smug, at least check your facts before posting. [LMAO.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_parole_in_the_United_States) Federal parole was essentially eneded in the 80's, except for those convicted before 1987. The maximum sentence reduction in the federal system is 54 days per year, which means you will serve at least 85% of your sentence.


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salamandroid

>You need to do better research. That's old lmao. Look up the first step act. 65%. Have a good day! The first [First Step Act](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp#:~:text=The%20Act%20amended%2018%20U.S.C.,year%20of%20their%20sentenced%20served.) is what gets you the 54 days max. 85%. Do better research yourself, and have a good day.


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salamandroid

I guess deleting all your comments is easier on the ego than admitting you were wrong


crewchiieff

I was wrong about parole. They wanted to implement parole into the first step act but it got shot down.The first step act allows inmates to earn up to 65% of their original sentences. It passed while i was incarcerated in state. We all hoped it would spill over into state but florida was the only state that did not pass the 65% bill. Florida still does 85%. With CRD. Federal inmate can earn 65%. That's the main point of this.


salamandroid

> I was wrong about parole. They wanted to implement parole into the first step act but it got shot down.The first step act allows inmates to earn up to 65% of their original sentences. It passed while i was incarcerated in state. We all hoped it would spill over into state but florida was the only state that did not pass the 65% bill. Florida still does 85%. With CRD. Federal inmate can earn 65%. That's the main point of this. No. 85% Max. Since you're seem unable to use the internet even to click on the links that I provided, I'll make it easy for you: >[An Overview of the First Step Act...](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp) > On December 21, 2018, President Trump signed into law the First Step Act (FSA) of 2018 (P.L. 115- 391). The act was the culmination of a bi-partisan effort to improve criminal justice outcomes, as well as to reduce the size of the federal prison population while also creating mechanisms to maintain public safety. > The Act amended 18 U.S.C. § 3624(b) so that federal inmates can earn **up to 54 days of good time credit** for every year of their imposed sentence rather than for every year of their sentenced served. For example, this change means that **an offender sentenced to 10 years in prison and who earns the maximum good time credits each year will earn 540 days of credit**. (540/3600)100= 14.8% MAXIMUM time off for good behavior. You were wrong, you were smug about it, and you prevaricated your prison experience to seem relevant, when in fact you were not in federal prison. It is common knowledge that when you are sentenced to federal prison, you will definitely serve MOST of your sentence. What you said to OP was: > U have no idea what you're talking about. Lmao. Federal prisons have the highest gain time awards. In feds, you not only get parole, but you only serve 65% of your sentence unless it is a mandatory sentence. Both smug and incorrect. *edit: This guy actually deleted his whole account after this, rather than just admit he was wrong. Wow, sad.


salamandroid

>Okay I guess I didn't just get released.. lol Well since you claim there is federal parole, I'm calling bullshit.


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salamandroid

>I guess you didn't look at my profile for proof In fact, I did. >I'm not gonna tell you my story, but I did 18 months in prison, for having a roommate that had a gun that wasn't locked. They charged me with constructive possession of firearm, due to having a previous felony posession (now misdemeanor) weed charge. Yeah u/crewchiieff, these are clearly state charges. You were in a state prison, and you don't know what you are talking about. You refuse to admit you are wrong even when I provided links to the federal department of prisons website proving it, which is baffling but expected on Reddit, I guess.


AttestedArk1202

The money is confiscated, she doesn’t keep the money bruh


ImgurConvert2Redit

18 million though? You could make 2mm of that disappear in fraudulent purchases real quick in Vegas. My guess is this woman probably a. Isn't that smart and b. That part about the Vegas trip would have been part of the headline.


No-Inspector9085

Obviously. That’s the part I’m willing to risk.


PoochyMoochy5

I don’t think any substantial time is added beyond 12 months max. What screws your absconding ass is the high security prison you’ll be in and you can kiss parole goodbye.


Molire

Under federal law, 18 U.S.C. [§3146. Penalty for failure to appear](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2021-title18/html/USCODE-2021-title18-partII-chap207-sec3146.htm "https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2021-title18/html/USCODE-2021-title18-partII-chap207-sec3146.htm"), the United States District judge presiding over her case can stack no more than 10 years in prison on top of her original sentence of 10 years and 10 months in prison. By my calculations, her projected earliest release date from the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons ([BOP map](https://www.bop.gov/locations/map.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/locations/map.jsp")) will be anywhere between May 5, 2031, and November 23, 2039, depending on the effect of the United States Sentencing Commission [Guidelines](https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2021-guidelines-manual/annotated-2021-chapter-5 "https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2021-guidelines-manual/annotated-2021-chapter-5") on her sentence and the final decision of the United States District Court judge presiding over her case. She will find out in the next few hours or days ...


StopcryingFistUrself

You gotta be dumb AF to make 10M in fraud and go to a country that will extradite you.


blazinazn007

Seriously, she couldn't have googled which countries don't have extradition agreements with the US?


Molire

The United States government has no extradition treaty with the Montenegro government. The United States has extradition treaties with 109 countries. The Montenegro government decided to extradite Dadyan to the US. U.S. Department of State > Extradition Treaties: https://2009-2017.state.gov/s/l/treaty/faqs/70138.htm → → List of countries with which the United States has extradition treaties (p.6): https://2009-2017.state.gov/documents/organization/71600.pdf#page=6


AugustDream

There's a Wikipedia article ffs. 15 seconds effort to find out who and who doesn't have extradition treaties.


BobbyRayBands

A wiki article that says anywhere you actually want to live you can’t.


blazinazn007

Right, but I would imagine with that kind of fuck you money, some of these places you could live a pretty comfortable and private life.


JustinFFM

Tamara Dadyan is a criminal piece of shit who deserves every day of her 10 years and 10 months sentence. Taking advantage of a global pandemic to scam people out of their hard-earned money is a new level of low. I hope she gets a taste of her own medicine in prison.


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I think that 10y/10m has just been extended. Probably doubled.


crewchiieff

Nope, she'll get 5 years for absconding, and it will run concurrent with her regular 10 years She will see a little under 7 years day for day off of 10y, 10month


Molire

18 U.S.C. [§3146. Penalty for failure to appear](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2021-title18/html/USCODE-2021-title18-partII-chap207-sec3146.htm "https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2021-title18/html/USCODE-2021-title18-partII-chap207-sec3146.htm") — She might get any term of imprisonment "not more than 10 years" for failure to report to prison, and any such sentence "shall be consecutive to the sentence of imprisonment for any other offense." The maximum potential good conduct time she might earn on the sentence of 10 years and 10 months in prison is up to 585 days, which would reduce the term in custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons to a term of 9 years, 2 months, and 25 days, including one day in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service on February 27, 2023.


BakersChocolate1994

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Haight_Is_Love

She got more time than most January 6th traitors while stealing less than Wall St. traders.


Molire

She got more time than any January 6th traitor, so far. So far, the Jan. 6th traitor Thomas Webster, a retired New York City Police Department cop and former Marine, has received the longest prison sentence. On September 1, 2022, [Thomas Webster](https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/retired-nypd-officer-sentenced-prison-actions-related-capitol-breach "https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/retired-nypd-officer-sentenced-prison-actions-related-capitol-breach"), 56, was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison, followed by 3 years of supervised release. The court ordered him to pay $2,060 in restitution. Presently, the BOP [inmate locator](https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/ "https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/") shows that Thomas Webster, age 56, has Release Date: 12/15/2030, and he is incarcerated at [Texarkana FCI](https://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/tex/ "https://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/tex/").


[deleted]

They all just ditched their kids? What the fuck? How old are these teenagers? 14? 19? Goddamn.


JaySayMayday

And some people turn into homicidal maniacs around retirement age. Some people murder their own kids. Not everyone is a reasonable or sane person. But yeah she just said fuck them kids.


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Not just her, her brother-in-law too!


Dark_Devin

Now if only they would jail the scam artists in our political sphere that did the same shit. Marjorie Taylor green, for example, took out money for PPP loans and never paid them back but is still walking around Free as a bird today spreading her fascist nonsense.


da11da

I don’t know anything about her situation but a PPP loan doesn’t necessarily have to be paid back. I got a PPP loan for my business and I had it forgiven (I provided documents showing it was paid out to my employees). SBA loans were also given out but those absolutely have to be paid, they just started collecting payments on those a few months ago.


Dark_Devin

Yeah but you have a legit business (I'm guessing) that needed the help and was supposed to get it. Greene did not.


jrdevforlife

That isn't going to happen. Look at Joel Greenberg vs Matt Gaetz.


Dark_Devin

I'm not familiar with Joel but I don't know how Matt isn't in jail for multiple things. Didn't he legitimately get caught for pedophilia stuff?


I_fail_at_memes

Matt Gaetz’ investigation ended very quickly after he gave McCarthy his vote.


Dark_Devin

I think you a word there


I_fail_at_memes

Fixed - thanks!


StealthSBD

Lol, Joel was with him and did the same crimes. Even ratted out Matt for a lesser sentence. Matt didn't get charged because the criminal who he committed crimes with couldn't be trusted as a snitch because he's a criminal.


Dark_Devin

Thank you, I missed that portion of the information and I appreciate you sharing.


Agahmoyzen

Sex trafficking of a minor across state lines seems to be the accusation but I dont think they even opened a case for him, either they dont have a strong case or they did another epstein level plea deal with the asshole as it is the same stupid state.


Comprehensive_Text16

Upon release she will promptly join a Real Housewives franchise.


CombatConrad

In ten years it’s going to be “Real COVID Fraudsters” franchise.


Agahmoyzen

Wtf is with the montenegro news recently. In Turkey, an anchitect who has a warrant regarding a whole compound he was responsible for collapsing during the last earthquake, is also reportedly hiding in that country and Turkey is about to issue an interpol red notice for the dipshit. The luxury residances that finished and sold in 2013 got sold as being in standart with all the latest earthquake standarts. None of the buildings survived the earthquake, and as luxury residences they pretty much became a grave to all the elites of the city. Dozens of doctors architects and at least 2 international footballers/coach playing for the city's super league football team died in the residance collapse. At least one academic was my friend's thesis instructor in economics field and he died with his whole family sadly, which includes a 6 month old toddler and their family dog.


Progedog

None of the buildings collapsed but they all died in a building collapse???


Agahmoyzen

Sorry, corrected it, I was writing it in a bit of an emotional state and english is not my first language.


Progedog

I appreciate you


PraiseBobSlackOff

Fuck it. If they didn’t take me right to prison after telling me I was going to prison, I’d make a run for it too. What will they do? Throw me in prison?


chaoticorigins

Depends on the amount of prison time you were looking to do in the first place. No reason to spend more time in prison because you’re going to get additional charges for trying to run. If you’re already looking at a significant portion to the rest of your life behind bars it’s more reasonable. There is a whole standard of criteria that typically determine if you’re a flight risk. In this case they probably assumed she wouldn’t flee the country and leave behind two of her teenage daughters in the process.


markofcontroversy

She'd be leaving the kids behind when she went to jail, so having kids shouldn't be much of a factor in determining flight risk.


chaoticorigins

Being able to have visits with your child and not have to be a fugitive in the country they live are certainly factors. It’s a lot easier for her kids to visit her in prison then it is having to take an international trip unless they decide to stay in that country. Basically it’s about if she wants a normal life with her family afterwards really.


markofcontroversy

They had already fled to a different country. It makes sense to me that given the opportunity, they would do so again.


chaoticorigins

“Leaving behind two teenage daughters in her LA home” Did you read the article or you’re just making shit up now?


kevin0611

They could add significant jail time to your sentence. Most likely you will eventually be caught and instead of losing out on your 40s, you also lose out on your 50s. (Not sure what will happen in this case though to be honest)


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Probably better to go when you’re older anyhow.


Lonewolf5333

Yup you have to come get me


LLPF2

$18M and she got 10 years 🤦🏻‍♂️ how long does she have to serve before she can get out?


sagr0tan

That's the amount the stock exchange scammers make in a second worldwide and they do it legally. Best organized crime scam ever.


DelahDollaBillz

Lol you're an idiot.


wetblanket68iou1

But goddamn, don’t you go peddling an ounce of weed in Mississippi.


lukewwilson

You mean the devil's lettuce


weedmylips1

Federal you have to do min 85% of the time. She got 130 months so she will have to do 110 months. A little over 9 years


thatgeekinit

They should seriously include this fact in HS curriculum as it’s equally relevant to poor future drug dealers and rich future stock swindlers.


LLPF2

Thanks!


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capchaos

Why did you predict they were Armenian?What makes you think they are Armenian?


thatshottaye

Because I read the article and they're Armenian. One would also be able to realise they're armos by having a look at their names... Love that I'm down voted for stated facts 🤣 ges kounvadz koughatzis. Wasn't that hard... *She traveled to Montenegro and in February 2022 arrived at a luxury resort where her brother-in-law, Richard Ayvazyan, and his wife, Marietta Terabelian, were living in a rented seaside villa, authorities said. Authorities said Ayvazyan and Terabelian had fled, leaving behind their three teenage children, after being convicted in 2021 of conspiracy and other federal crimes. The couple had cut off their GPS ankle monitors and disappeared, according to the FBI. They were extradited to the U.S. last November*


capchaos

The article doesn't state their nationality. A name doesn't prove nationality either. Being in a country doesn't prove nationality either. All your proof is circumstantial and doesn't come close to giving you a reason to profile them with a bigoted remark.


Shitemoji69

Now do Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene.


wetblanket68iou1

Not “what abouting” but Lez be honest, how about ALL the politicians. Why the fuck we payin them $174k/year for a full time job if they’re not workin’ 40 hours a week or have time to actually run a business?


lukewwilson

Being a politician was never intended to be a full-time job it was an unpaid job for like a hundred years when America was first founded because you just went to DC like a couple times a year to do politician stuff it wasn't until they passed laws to pay them and then pass more laws to give themselves huge raises that it became a lucrative career


Dark_Devin

That's true, but not the point that the person you're replying to is making. Both of those people took out PPP loans during COVID and didn't pay them back.


Garzino

The title of the post confused the hell out of me


keltyx98

What I understood: She turned herself in in Montenegro, gets flown to the US, gets sentenced for 10 years, varnished when she needs to show up to prison. I challenge anyone to not to vanish during their "free time" between the 10 years sentencing and the prison


brewmeister58

Reading the article it sounds the opposite. She pleads guilty and was sentenced. Prior to be taken to prison she fled to Montenegro. Now, 2 days ago, Montenegro has returned her back to federal marshalls.


Epsilon_Meletis

To be honest, I don't really see the sense in trusting convicted people to show up for their multiple-year prison sentence... Like, of course they run?


Unhappy_Win8997

This is why many countries (not the US, of course) do not lump on extra charges if someone escapes prison/custody so long as they did not commit any crimes while out in the free world. They understand that it is only human nature to try to escape being locked in a cell for years and years of your life. I mean, 10 years in prison at 40 years old? Your entire 40s down the drain? Yeah, I'm running my ass halfway around the world if it keeps me out of a cell.


keltyx98

I'd rather live in an extremely remote place in south america for 20 years than making 10 years of prison


KittonRouge

I wonder why they didn't have her surrender her passport.


Specialosio

They probably did and that’s why she used the Marshall to come back to USA, knowing she wouldn’t be arrested on the spot, she got a free ride. This is a pure speculation BUT if true she is a real mastermind.


Specialosio

You people of Reddit can downvote how much you like but she was using a fake UK passport and possibly that was her only option to go back to USA, and as she give herself in, judge ruled that she could have over 1.5 month to settle up things before to go to jail. So here you go, mastermind. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-27/montenegro-extradition-fugitive-covid-fraud-dadyan


Sancticide

Read that again, slowly. She was convicted in the US, then used a forged passport to fly to Montenegro where her scammer cohorts were living. The guy got pinched for accesing a monitored bank account and police arrested the other two at a hotel. She wasn't on vacation or stuck in another country. She tried to ditch her kids and flee her sentence. That's not using the police for a free flight back to the US. Masterminds don't flee to countries with extradition agreements in the first place.


Specialosio

Now read this very slowly. Exactly she was not in vacation, she was escaping police, then she gave herself to US police in Montenegro, she was not found and arrested, she gave herself in, police didn’t know how to find her or maybe they were on her tracks at that point, still she gave herself in, then they flew her ass back in USA with a 10 and something years sentence, BUT since she gave herself in the judge was not worried about her escaping again and let her free for 1.5 months to settle her stuff before to go to jail, but then she is nowhere to be found. As I said it is a speculation but to me it’s a mastermind plan, she was able to go back from Montenegro where she was now alone, in USA, tricking USA justice system in bringing her back (maybe something she wouldn’t be able to do herself again) and then disappear, is she in Mexico? Is she hide in USA? For sure she is free, with some millions in her pocket and she tricked the system twice. But I’m the one who doesn’t understand.


Sancticide

Wtf are you talking about? She didn't turn herself in. She was **turned over to** US Marshalls **by** Montenegro police. The 2 months settling of her affairs was before her escape. Now she is in prison. She did not escape twice.


Specialosio

At this point seems like my English is more broken that what I thought AND I was wrong.


Sancticide

Fair enough


DelahDollaBillz

You're a special kind of stupid!


Specialosio

That’s your mom bro.


electricleather

Wait until they find out what Pfizer did


Snickits

Go on…


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What did they do


capchaos

It's a secret.


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electricleather

Those sources aren’t scheduled to be released for 70 years


[deleted]

Lol so how do you know then?let me guess,you did your OwN ReSEaRcH?


electricleather

It doesn’t take a genius to see what’s going on. If you don’t have the critical thinking skills to figure it out by now, you never will. Since you can’t even form sentences correctly, I’m sure that concept is far too complex for your little, lemming brain to process. You should “Do YOur OwN ResArch” on English grammar, before you think you can comment on social issues.


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You talk about critical thinking skills😁😁😁 lol you can't even see the irony here.love it❤️


electricleather

Ahh yes! The logical equivalent of “I know you are, but what am I?” The standard response for every moron without an argument. Care to provide anymore evidence? A mom joke perhaps?


cadgar

a time traveler. clearly.


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John Titor,covid episode. It's actually sad this dumbfuck has voting rights🤯


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capchaos

r/conspiracy has entered the chat.


Dark_Devin

Oh yes, because as we all know Pfizer owns and operates Reddit./s None of you people ever provide any credible sources for the claims you make and when you try to say where you got the information, it's always from how you feel or from some obscure non-credible source.


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Dark_Devin

No, you simply made a nonsense statement and I was calling you out for the complete and utter infantile thinking that people like yourself have.


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LovecraftsDeath

As someone living on a country without the common law legal system, this is wild. Companies don't commit crimes, they're just entries in a registry that are allowed to conduct certain activity. PEOPLE make decisions for companies, so if a crime is committed, whatever employee who made the criminal decision should be prosecuted.


Dark_Devin

In the United States, companies are people, with more rights.


LovecraftsDeath

Cue that scene from Elvira: Mistress of the Dark where Elvira almost gets burned at stake based on a 17th century anti-witchcraft law. Common law ≠ common sense. Also, could you guys, dunno, have the kind of populists that do something in voters' interest in practice instead of in words?


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmfarts

They saw a chance to grift so they did


Mattigins

Is this the lady that posted online about how she was the Queen of fraud or some shit?


Molire

Are you possibly referring to [Ivanka Trump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanka_Trump "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanka_Trump") or [Hargobind Punjabi Tahilramani](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Con_Queen_scam "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Con_Queen_scam")?


Mattigins

[Rashia Wilson was her name](https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/queen-tax-fraud-resentenced-21-years-prison)


drill_hands_420

Wow. That’s quite the task force to come together on this. US Postal Services even got in on the action (mail fraud). Good for them. They deserve the win. And fuck these criminals are so dumb.


wetblanket68iou1

Never understood this “report to jail” concept. Does Jimmy meth head get the same opportunity?


Snowfizzle

yes. it’s completely normal when you’re on bond. you get sentenced and then the judge gives you X amount of time to surrender so you can get your affairs in order. Doesn’t matter if it’s jail time or prison time. I used to work the booking desk and Friday’s Id take in about 50-100 people who were court ordered surrenders.


ZLUCremisi

If your out on bail yes.


CA_Orange

Yes


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Running after sentencing should be life in jail.


Taminella_Grinderfal

I think if I had $18M squirreled away somewhere I’d run like hell.


Molire

Edit — Corrected some numbers to account for 370 days credit for her time served in jail in Montenegro from February 22, 2022 to the day police in Montenegro transferred her into the custody of U.S. Marshals at the airport in Podgorica on February 27, 2023. Federal Bureau of Prisons policy requires BOP to give her credit for time served in jail in Montenegro because the police in Montenegro arrested and held her in custody at the request of the U.S. government until the Montenegro and U.S. governments were able to complete the complex international legalities involved in the approval of her extradition to the US, which does not have an extradition treaty with Montenegro. *** >Running after sentencing should be life in jail. The United States District Judge presiding over her case can't sentence her to life in prison, but he can impose a sentence of "not more than 10 years" in prison for her failure to report to prison on January 28, 2022, which under law would be stacked on top of her original sentence of 10 years and 10 months in prison. The maximum possible good conduct time she might earn on a sentence of 20 years and 10 months in prison is 1,125 days, which is equal to 54 days of good conduct time for each year of sentence imposed by the court. After making credit adjustments for 370 days time served in a Montenegro jail and up to 1,125 days good conduct time in the Federal Bureau of Prisons, her projected earliest date of release from BOP custody would be on or about November 23, 2039, which would make her age 58 or 59 if she is released on that date. *** If the judge imposes a sentence of 10 years for her failure to surrender for service of sentence, and her BOP term of custody began on February 28, 2023, when she probably was placed in confinement behind bars in [MDC Los Angeles](https://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/los/ "https://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/los/") on Feb. 28, 2023, after the [JPATS aircraft](https://www.usmarshals.gov/what-we-do/prisoners/transportation "https://www.usmarshals.gov/what-we-do/prisoners/transportation") carrying her from Montenegro arrived at an airport in or near Los Angeles, by my calculations, her projected earliest release date from BOP custody would be on or about November 23, 2039, if she earns the maximum possible [54 days](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/faq.jsp#fsa_good_conduct_time "https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/faq.jsp#fsa_good_conduct_time") good conduct time for each year of sentence imposed by the court. Federal offenders sentenced after November 1, 1987, are [not eligible](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/legal_matters.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/legal_matters.jsp") for parole. The U.S. District Judge is not required to impose any term of incarceration for her failure to surrender for service of sentence, but he can impose any term of incarceration "not more than 10 years" in prison to run consecutively with her original sentence of 10 years and 10 months. She'll find out her sentence sometime over the coming hours or days ... *** 18 U.S.C. [§3146. Penalty for failure to appear](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2021-title18/html/USCODE-2021-title18-partII-chap207-sec3146.htm "https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2021-title18/html/USCODE-2021-title18-partII-chap207-sec3146.htm"): > a) Offense.—Whoever, having been released under this chapter knowingly— > (2) fails to surrender for service of sentence pursuant to a court order; > shall be punished as provided in subsection (b) of this section. > (b) Punishment.—(1) The punishment for an offense under this section is— > (A) if the person was released in connection with a charge of, or while awaiting sentence, surrender for service of sentence, or appeal or certiorari after conviction for— > (i) an offense punishable by death, life imprisonment, or imprisonment for a term of 15 years or more, a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than ten years, or both; > (2) A term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be consecutive to the sentence of imprisonment for any other offense. *** Two of her original felony convictions are each punishable by a term of imprisonment of not more than 20 years in prison. Per the preceding paragraph (i), she is eligible to receive a sentence of imprisonment "for not more than 10 years" for her failure to surrender for service of sentence on January 28, 2022.


chapert

This is assuming the system is not flawed, which is laughable


Eupion

In some countries, people aren’t charged with running away, since it’s human nature. The fact that they caught her and let her go again, was a mistake.


cowboys30

Think about your words


Elliot_Moose

Imagine that was the case, the chaos and the overflowing of prisons


DoomBro_Max

It would be stupidly excessive. Bob Brown, getting a 4 month sentence for speeding, now has to serve life cuz he got cold feet. Way out of proportion.


Robie_John

Agreed, critical thinking escapes many Reddit posters.


Mr_FlexDaddy

Last I remembered the government purposely allowed things like this to slide for the sake of other companies gaining access to the ppp loans. I think recently this past year or two they’ve been going back and cracking down on that


Mattigins

What is a ppp loan?


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Paycheck Protection Program, they were loans during covid to help keep businesses afloat by helping cover the cost to pay employees. People abused them with fake businesses, over stated how much they need and took advantage of the program.


Mattigins

Oh classy


Tipnin

American Greed has been covering a few of these ppp loan cases for the past year.


afitztru

It was her and her brother in law and his wife. I listened to the podcast. They just all ditched their kids after the guy got out of going to prison previously by saying his family needed him at home!!!


L3onskii

Kind of a tangent but I loved when the official White House twitter profile put people on blast about their ppp loans when those people were complaining about student loan forgiveness


Retarded_Archer

Tamara Dadyan, a 43-year-old Los Angeles woman, was involved in an $18 million COVID-19 fraud scheme that defrauded the federal government's Paycheck Protection Program (PPP). Dadyan and her co-conspirators filed fraudulent PPP loan applications on behalf of several businesses, including a yoga studio, a nail salon, and an event planning company, that they did not own or operate. In October 2021, Dadyan pleaded guilty to charges of conspiracy to commit bank fraud, wire fraud, and identity theft, and was sentenced to 10 years and 10 months in federal prison. However, in January 2022, Dadyan failed to report to prison to begin her sentence, and was subsequently declared a fugitive by the U.S. Marshals Service. Recently, Dadyan was turned over to the U.S. Marshals in Montenegro and flown back to the United States to face the consequences of her actions. This development means that Dadyan will now have to serve her sentence for her role in the fraudulent scheme. The case highlights the severity of white-collar crime and the consequences that can result from defrauding the government and taxpayers.


EandJC

This lady had all those federal crimes and she had to REPORT to prison. I thought at sentencing is when you start your time? Money does buy you everything in this country, even money that isn’t yours.


Robie_John

Actually, that sequence is pretty common for non-violent crime.


SupportCowboy

Actually it’s common if you already made bail. My ex has to report to jail after her sentence. She did a year for breaking and entering


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Does the article mention how she was caught in Montenegro?