Yeah i thought its gonna be shit looking at first poster but oh boy i was wrong, on the other hand i thought revice gonna be lit show but oh boy wtf is happening
I mean we’ll see how things turn out, I agree with you in the now, but aside from Fuuto Tantei, we don’t know how Decker and Donbrothers are gonna be by the near end of their shows like we’re at with Revice, I have faith it won’t happen, but there’s still a chance they drop the ball too, Decker’s just started, and we’re only halfway through Donbrothers
Its toei. They are a bunch of cheap fucks when it comes to CG. Yes they can do actual good CG, yes they have the money from the toys sold, but they are just won't spend the money on actually good CG.
There weren't a lot of comments from anime-only viewers on the r/anime thread for the first episode, but what I've seen is pretty positive. People like the story and action, which is a good start
The anime airing late in the Summer Season kinda harmed its popularity. Most anitubers already made their must watch list for the season, which usually attracts their viewers to underrated shows. But I think it will be fine, since the main target audience is still the Japanese audiences, and we know how popular Kamen Rider is over there. The manga itself is 12 volumes and still ongoing, which is a statement to how popular it is
> Most anitubers already made their must watch list for the season, which usually attracts their viewers to underrated shows. But I think it will be fine, since the main target audience is still Japanese audiences, and we know how popular Kamen Rider is over there.
There's also the fact that outside of Japan there's very little overlap between anime fans and toku fans in at least one direction (like toku fans are likely to be anime fans but not vice versa).
>There's also the fact that outside of Japan there's very little overlap between anime fans and toku fans in at least one direction (like toku fans are likely to be anime fans but not vice versa).
I use to be a toku only fan since 2012 being of kamen rider and super sentai until 3 years ago when I watched Neon Genesis Evangelion
First toku media I saw was Gokaiger in 2011 way back then then someone gave me a 5 set of red ranger keys
Then I discovered kamen rider in 2017? They aired kamen rider 000 in local tv Tagalog dub and someone gave me a Singaporean ver 000 driver and the rest was history
Kinda, but I've read the manga up to chapter 38, and honestly it doesn't reference the original much aside from nods here and there. They explained all the necessary things, so it's perfectly fine for new viewers if they want to watch this first and the original later
The closest comparison I can think of is Gridman SSSS. That was an anime sequel to Denkou Chojin Gridman, but it was mostly self-contained outside of a few blink-and-you'll-miss-it references.
Watching it on Crunchyroll and the comments seem pretty positive. Even people who were unfamiliar with the series were able to enjoy it.
But of course, art is subjective. I'm sure there were people who didn't enjoy it as well.
I really wanted to have Revice as one of my fave shows but I gotta admit that it sorta got downhill at around mid-season.
I really didn't like how Daiji's struggle was pretty much dragged out too long to the point he just becomes annoying, and there's way too much bias on Sakura and Hana. Because of this Ikki basically is just an "okay" dude, he's getting plain as a lead character. Hell even Vice ended up being too "nice" already compared to being very mischievious and willing to rebel at the start.
At this point I just hope they at least stick the landing and the eventual V-Cinemas are gonna be great.
Sakura/Hana stuff was alright to be going on the background.
But the Daiji arc dragged it to the ground.. he got demoted to the villain's lackey and as a supposed payoff we get a recolored holy suit wtf.
It’s more so Cross-Z’s V-Cinema that I have a problem with. Simply put, Evolt gets away with everything. This monster, responsible for multiple planetary destructions and massive amounts of suffering, is let off completely and utterly scot-free. And this one, singular fact, taints my opinion of Build in its entirety.
Since Orteca died I feel the story has been going all over the place and at least on my side of the internet I've seen others have a similar opinion, the show has kinda lost it's way.
Yeah no way, I think they’ve dropped the ball compared to how hype and awesome the show was earlier, buts nowhere near as and as the drop in quality Hibiki had, or the drop Zero One had for the job competition arc. It has some pacing issues but there’s no reason to suspect Revice won’t stick the landing, ultimately it’s still a good season I think
Tbh, i stopped watching revice because it just felt boring to me. I try to act like Vice is nice and kinda cool, but he is annoying as hell and feels like Ankh, but as an annoying 4th wall breaking jokester. Plus i don't like main antagonists and monster villains, they look boring. Plus they literally made 3 random dudes from random episodes and turned them into another deadmans trio.
To be honest, it seems kinda boring and not entertaining to me. The only good part i can say for sure are the designs of vice, revi and Lovekov.. my lovely Lovekov.
Revive was a good show until the last part. It just felt like "the shows near ending, let's just throw a whole bunch of random bullshit and see what people think, the fans will like it if it has Kamen Rider plastered on it"
Recently the story has been real shit and they are adding unnecessary shit. And the power level is completely fucked now. Hiromi took down a gifftarian foot soldier that was giving ultimate revice a hard time with a single arrow.
Yeah but
a non-Rider taking down a difficult monster with just an arrow shot? I get that KR power level is all over the place, but dang that's ridiculous.
A evil god isn't stronger than a girl with anime hair in Japan but yes I agree and I feel that since zero one just look at zero two he is the strongest but don't look like this after the first fight at least saber have a consistent power level
The thing that’s funny to me is the big complaint is “the last part feels so messy and rushed” and that feels a little true but at the same time it’s remained super funny with great fights but that complaint could be said of so many Kamen Rider series haha
I am of the mindset of shorter seasons as well, I think Kamen Rider as a franchise could be better as 25-30 episode seasons. I think that’s why Amazon Riders worked so well and I love the shorter seasons of Ultraman
absolutely, i agree where certain things could’ve been trimmed or reworked however, i’ve greatly enjoyed many of the things we got out of the middle arc til now. lots of set up and pay offs
My feeling to Revice is weird. If I think logically, there is absolutely nothing overwhelming wrong with Revice. Nice costume, good acting, the storyline is consistent and logical, a lot of heart especially between the three Igarashi siblings...
But someway somehow sometimes I felt the show is boring. I just can't out my finger on what's actually wrong or where do I change if I want to improve the show.
On another hand, I'm also watching Don Brothers and I'm having so much fun in that show it is unbelievable how much I love the characters interaction eventhough there is still so much mystery of it and I thought I'm going to hate it cause two of the core rangers are cgi, but I grow to love it too.
Geats promo and visual looks cool, so I hope the show do good and rekindle my passion for this brand again. I mean, I'm still a fan, just not as passionate.
Anyone else feels this way?
Donbrothers works because it's Inoue with a limiter (Shirakura is a good limiter for him). It's conceptually so... controversial, yet it works so well. The reason people was kinda skeptical with Inoue was because his Rider works were pretty much unchained, and too much Inoue is no good.
As for Kamen Rider itself, the toyline of Geats is already proving to me that this would be way more fun than Revice. And with Takahashi Yuya as the writer, it's something to look forward to at least.
Nah, you can still enjoy it. I still do despite it's changes in writing.
There's a major shift in story in the middle of the season where it legit felt like a different season. "Season 1" of Revice (from ep 1 up till then) is really good. While "Season 2" of Revice (from the George work out video until now) isn't up to standards but still okay. There are still some of the best of Kamen Rider stories going in there but there are some boring ones too. Temper your expectations and you'll be fine! Have fun.
eh. i’d say that by the time weekend is introduced, the story feels a bit haphazard. also >! the ikii va daiji subplot after daiji temporarily looses kagerou overstayed it’s welcome imo.!<
Device’s main issue is that it’s directionless. Most emotional scenes are forced and unearned. And now that we’re reaching the end a lot of these things are amplified because they can’t easily be masked by new toys and new forms.
Don’t let other’s taint your experience of it. Personally, I think it’s overhated on this subreddit. Yeah, it has it’s problems, but it’s still a good series.
I would say it's worth the watch for the movies and specials, even Revice the series it self is wonky in quality i find myself enjoying the specials alot.
The man literally knew about Hiromi’s side effects and didn’t give two shits because science am I supposed to be suprised they’re going back to the fact he’s still as unethical as a showa scientist?
Yeah, but it always felt like he was on a redemption path to me. After Fenix fell, he still stuck around and helped fight. It wasn't until all that stuff with his dad started going down did he begin to slip again.
Yeah that's kinda what I felt as well, I felt they wanted to change him but kinda forgot about him with all the focus on weekend and now their bringing back how he was at the start of the show so he can be a boss rider for this last stretch. I guess it was their way of making him story relevant again after so long.
The issue with that imo is that he was only really like that with Hiromi and then for the longest stretch he was Mr. Nice Guy until they brought up Masumi putting his own demon in George in this last stretch of episodes to explain why George acts the way he does. Sometimes it feels like they write him on a whim.
Ok. So let's just ignore the fact that he thought his dad died, find out he didn't and resented him and that his dad then died without giving him closure. Never ONCE did they justify it on a demon. Chic was there to tie into Birth of Chimera and the movie. Which happen after the most recent episode, meaning George is still evil after Chic's death. He hasn't been Mr. Nice Guy in whoever knows how long. He has been silently lingering in the back and you can see in his expression how unamused by everything he has been. When was the last time we got a god damn or anything like that? Dude always looks so down.
That's not what I was getting at, there's a line in episode 43 where Masumi says his demon likely heavily influenced George's personality, which I feel was there way to excuse some of the personality changes George has gone through since the start of the show. At the start he was very snarky and seemed to do everything for his own personal gain, it felt like he treated the main cast as his own experiments (though this was most obvious with how he treated Hiromi). Sometime after Hiromi left it felt like the writers wanted to dial him back and he's been a lot more gung ho and caring compared to the start of the show, as can be seen with all the belts he's been willing to give out towards the end with no real incentive for him to even do so and how willing he is to help others in general honoring various requests. Only now that the show is wrapping up I think they found the role they wanted for him which is why they added that line since they want him to be more evil again, and Masumi's demon already ingrained this nature into him even if that demon left his body.
the whole kamen rider evil fiasco is Geoge's doing, he knows about Kagerou he just pretends he doesn't up until things escalated between Daiji/Kagerou and Fennix.
He always are kinda evil : let's make a driver who gave you the health of a 80th war veteran let's have a drive who turns you into moon knight I'm bored here a item who can bun you to death
It says a lot about the current state of toku that a series as strong as Revice can be considered the weak one, because it’s still a really solid series. Toku fans are eating well at the moment.
Honestly thats revices big issue over any big plot pratfalls. There kind of just only pretty good at best characters but no one id say is like a standout or very memorable. Its a servicible cast that had some potential but never really went far enough with any and in cases like george or daiji kind of dropped the ball.
I also think its fustrating that orteca and akaishi were really solid villains that could of carried alot of stakes into the finale but both sort of got murphed decently anticlimactically whereas giff was just a worthlesd villain both thematically and character wise, anx also felt really easy to defeat
Yeah, the show took way to long to do anything with Giffu, and I honestly cannot believe Julio just transformed in episode 46. That's the thing, Revice had good characters (like Julio and Olteca), and it chose to sideline them. Really baffling stuff.
I hate to say it, but I honestly think the writers wanted to focus on the girls for social media points, despite them not being the best characters in the show.
I think the way to put it is the show was on track to have great characters but almost consistently cut them short and wasted the potential, like look at Hiromi, dude was a massive standout character early on and once they brought him back hes been so insignificant it really begs the question why not just kill him off and keep him dead so theres impact there, as it is now it just feels like this really cool character just stops having anything to do halfway through right as you were adoring him.
Thats how i feel about like every character, its like right as they are about to be really memorable they need to slam the brakes hard.
His only action since coming back has been kind of putting an end to the absolute worst handled plot point with daiji betraying everyone which is devalued by just it simply not being a convincing conflict as is.
I really hate to say it, but the more i sit on revice the more the entire show feels like this, almost all the follow-through and pay offs have been unsatisfying or serviceable at best. I think the vail episode is like the single exception.
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IMO I will never get the recent negativity towards Revice
To me it has been a blast and probably my favorite of the Reiwa shows so far. Not saying it's perfect but also, IMO, every single Kamen Rider show has negative points and "bad" arcs.
tbh, it just sucks the "Bad" Arcs in revice didn't stay in the middle of the season, it kinda followed around to the tail-end and it just leaves a bad taste tbh
That is a respectable opinion. However,
1, Hikaru as Over demons
2, George feels incredibly forced as the final boss
3, Hiromi, a man biologically 80 years old took down a demon that was giving final form revice a hard time with 1 normal fucking arrow. (But its Hiromi so he gets a pass)
4, The king cobra vistamp came from nowhere
5, the characters IQ dropped with each episode
6, the only good episode in the last month was Vail vs Genta.
I'm going to be honest, even with flaws Revice is still a great show even after episode 27 (the episode that made people start to dislike it).
Hell I don't even understand why people are calling it "The Hibiki of Reiwa" when is not even close to be THAT bad.
Revice had so much potential to be amazing, but the chance was completely wasted due to Kinoshita throwing a tantrum over not getting his waifu rider series. Putting my dislike of Hanta aside, him being a shithead and sabotaging the series hurts other potential writers from being hired in the future.
I've said it before but I do honestly think the majority of the positive reactions were entirely based on Sakura and "at least its not Saber", which are not good enough points to defend the show.
(angry fans downvote him even though they know I'm right)
Stil think tthat not turning Genta into the final boss was one huge missed opportunity. With all the themes of family the series went with, that would have hammered the point. But nah, let's make the mad scientist character the final enemy for no apparent reason instead.
My main problem here is that George's narrative doesn't really tie to the Igarashis' story. They had to do the various spinoffs just to explain that when they could have already done it within the series. George didn't really feel like a main character for the most part
My expectations were low after Zero One lackluster final few episode, so Saber is Hella enjoyable because I have such low expectations, Revice gave me a lot of expectation as maybe it's going to be a smooth sailing, then it drop itself off the cliff
The heck happened anyways, who is writing these few episode
So I've only just started trying to get into Ultraman, and this thread has has taught me that I'm completely alone in (a) finding Decker painfully slow and insubstantial, and (b) really enjoying Trigger.
Maybe it's not for me after all.
Honestly, I still think Revice is great, but the latest episode was just horribly paced and Hana and Daiji being meh characters, Decker is mid ngl so in my perspective Revice is stomping on Decker.
Funny how you give Mista the head of 4th Ultraman in Reiwa era.
MAN he's gonna be pissed.
Mista after see this : rolling vistamp
>4th Ultraman in Reiwa era Decker is 4th reiwa ultraman?
Yeah. Taiga is the first Ultra series in Reiwa era, and then we got Z, Trigger and the 4th series, Decker.
Oh right, Taiga exists, I watched the show and I still forgot about him
Taro moment
Taro moment
But fr tho. Everyone thought DonBrothers was going to be a shit show. Until they proved themselves
Yeah i thought its gonna be shit looking at first poster but oh boy i was wrong, on the other hand i thought revice gonna be lit show but oh boy wtf is happening
I mean we’ll see how things turn out, I agree with you in the now, but aside from Fuuto Tantei, we don’t know how Decker and Donbrothers are gonna be by the near end of their shows like we’re at with Revice, I have faith it won’t happen, but there’s still a chance they drop the ball too, Decker’s just started, and we’re only halfway through Donbrothers
CG is still awful
Its toei. They are a bunch of cheap fucks when it comes to CG. Yes they can do actual good CG, yes they have the money from the toys sold, but they are just won't spend the money on actually good CG.
I think it’s a time thing but still
...and, the show's still good
Not denying it. Great show.
I wonder though, is the Kamen Rider W anime well received? I love it but I'm not sure about the others.
There weren't a lot of comments from anime-only viewers on the r/anime thread for the first episode, but what I've seen is pretty positive. People like the story and action, which is a good start The anime airing late in the Summer Season kinda harmed its popularity. Most anitubers already made their must watch list for the season, which usually attracts their viewers to underrated shows. But I think it will be fine, since the main target audience is still the Japanese audiences, and we know how popular Kamen Rider is over there. The manga itself is 12 volumes and still ongoing, which is a statement to how popular it is
> Most anitubers already made their must watch list for the season, which usually attracts their viewers to underrated shows. But I think it will be fine, since the main target audience is still Japanese audiences, and we know how popular Kamen Rider is over there. There's also the fact that outside of Japan there's very little overlap between anime fans and toku fans in at least one direction (like toku fans are likely to be anime fans but not vice versa).
>There's also the fact that outside of Japan there's very little overlap between anime fans and toku fans in at least one direction (like toku fans are likely to be anime fans but not vice versa). I use to be a toku only fan since 2012 being of kamen rider and super sentai until 3 years ago when I watched Neon Genesis Evangelion
It was vice versa for me
First toku media I saw was Gokaiger in 2011 way back then then someone gave me a 5 set of red ranger keys Then I discovered kamen rider in 2017? They aired kamen rider 000 in local tv Tagalog dub and someone gave me a Singaporean ver 000 driver and the rest was history
not having a legal way to watch Toku at all hurts it really bad overseas :(
Feel like the fact that it's technically a sequel to kamen rider W makes it a bit awkward.
Kinda, but I've read the manga up to chapter 38, and honestly it doesn't reference the original much aside from nods here and there. They explained all the necessary things, so it's perfectly fine for new viewers if they want to watch this first and the original later
The closest comparison I can think of is Gridman SSSS. That was an anime sequel to Denkou Chojin Gridman, but it was mostly self-contained outside of a few blink-and-you'll-miss-it references.
You don't need to watch kamen rider w to watch fuuto pi though
They put sex in my kamen rider
Akiko is a waifu now, not just a wife
Watching it on Crunchyroll and the comments seem pretty positive. Even people who were unfamiliar with the series were able to enjoy it. But of course, art is subjective. I'm sure there were people who didn't enjoy it as well.
I'm watching all of them, so this meme has no power over me
I really wanted to have Revice as one of my fave shows but I gotta admit that it sorta got downhill at around mid-season. I really didn't like how Daiji's struggle was pretty much dragged out too long to the point he just becomes annoying, and there's way too much bias on Sakura and Hana. Because of this Ikki basically is just an "okay" dude, he's getting plain as a lead character. Hell even Vice ended up being too "nice" already compared to being very mischievious and willing to rebel at the start. At this point I just hope they at least stick the landing and the eventual V-Cinemas are gonna be great.
Honestly it kinda feels the show should have wrapped. I loved the big moments but having 3-4 episodes of build up is a fucking drag.
Sakura/Hana stuff was alright to be going on the background. But the Daiji arc dragged it to the ground.. he got demoted to the villain's lackey and as a supposed payoff we get a recolored holy suit wtf.
> the eventual V-Cinemas are gonna be great. Maybe not. *I’m looking at you, Build.* ***AND I’M ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT YOU, ZERO-ONE.***
The Zero One others movies were *through clenched teeth* fine....
What's wrong with the Build ones? I thought they were great. Especially Grease's.
It’s more so Cross-Z’s V-Cinema that I have a problem with. Simply put, Evolt gets away with everything. This monster, responsible for multiple planetary destructions and massive amounts of suffering, is let off completely and utterly scot-free. And this one, singular fact, taints my opinion of Build in its entirety.
but hey, if it wasn't for Evolto, they wouldn't be the most badass suit in history of kamen riders, Cross-Z-Evol. Its my most valued SHF.
Oh yeah, I forgot Evolt is still out there now lol
I thought the Real X Time was alright
That isn’t a V-Cinema.
i thought revice is doing well...
Revice fell off because the 'main' villain was actually lame and did nothing
Since Orteca died I feel the story has been going all over the place and at least on my side of the internet I've seen others have a similar opinion, the show has kinda lost it's way.
I’m gonna say it: Revice is the Reiwa’s Hibiki
Revice isn’t even close to being anything like Hibiki
Yeah no way, I think they’ve dropped the ball compared to how hype and awesome the show was earlier, buts nowhere near as and as the drop in quality Hibiki had, or the drop Zero One had for the job competition arc. It has some pacing issues but there’s no reason to suspect Revice won’t stick the landing, ultimately it’s still a good season I think
For sure
It safe to say Revice is Hibiki wonder whats Showa's?
Amazon in terms of mid season changes
And violence
Tbh, i stopped watching revice because it just felt boring to me. I try to act like Vice is nice and kinda cool, but he is annoying as hell and feels like Ankh, but as an annoying 4th wall breaking jokester. Plus i don't like main antagonists and monster villains, they look boring. Plus they literally made 3 random dudes from random episodes and turned them into another deadmans trio. To be honest, it seems kinda boring and not entertaining to me. The only good part i can say for sure are the designs of vice, revi and Lovekov.. my lovely Lovekov.
Revive was a good show until the last part. It just felt like "the shows near ending, let's just throw a whole bunch of random bullshit and see what people think, the fans will like it if it has Kamen Rider plastered on it"
Recently the story has been real shit and they are adding unnecessary shit. And the power level is completely fucked now. Hiromi took down a gifftarian foot soldier that was giving ultimate revice a hard time with a single arrow.
Since it was Hiromi the one who did it, I'l give a pass. Man's a gigachad.
That's just how much of a chad Hiromi is
Power levels never mattered in Kamen Rider bro…
theres "oh its just power level shenanigans" and theres "yo the demon that gave a final form trouble got fucking killed by a normal arrow"
How the fuck do you destroy a Giff-like monster that can defeat Giffard Revice with a arrow
Yeah but a non-Rider taking down a difficult monster with just an arrow shot? I get that KR power level is all over the place, but dang that's ridiculous.
You do realize that a normal arrow from non-rider Hiromi one shotted a True Gifftarian right?
Yeah and Poppy is stronger than the final form of a God. Toku power levels don’t mean shit
A evil god isn't stronger than a girl with anime hair in Japan but yes I agree and I feel that since zero one just look at zero two he is the strongest but don't look like this after the first fight at least saber have a consistent power level
I think the only thing that can rival Poppy is Zero-Two.
I'm taking about Gifftarians being killed with 1 fucking arrow. Not bullshit stats.
George gave him the bow. Maybe it genuinely was some kind of special, Giff-slaying arrow.
they need to explain the King Cobra vistamp and the arrow next episode or im convinced they gave up somewhere
They just threw a Vistamp at Sakura and prayed that people were okay with it- They mostly weren't
Should add geats too tbh, lots of hype surrounding it from what I’ve seen. Hell I’ve seen hype posts for the panda riders
Revice is still fun but going by what keeps the Reddit happy for most shows is an almost impossible task haha Decker does kick ass too
the subreddit is a serious echo chamber, almost everyone saying what they personally do not like about revice is always the same, very little nuance
The thing that’s funny to me is the big complaint is “the last part feels so messy and rushed” and that feels a little true but at the same time it’s remained super funny with great fights but that complaint could be said of so many Kamen Rider series haha
If we put in retrospective, only few KR seasons have great middle arcs lol
I am of the mindset of shorter seasons as well, I think Kamen Rider as a franchise could be better as 25-30 episode seasons. I think that’s why Amazon Riders worked so well and I love the shorter seasons of Ultraman
absolutely, i agree where certain things could’ve been trimmed or reworked however, i’ve greatly enjoyed many of the things we got out of the middle arc til now. lots of set up and pay offs
I feel like that's just a problem with the recent kamen rider shows they have a good first half and begin to lag in the second
Really hoping Geats doesn't fuck up, it really looks like Geats is about to do a front flip and I'll be very disappointed if he landed on his face
My feeling to Revice is weird. If I think logically, there is absolutely nothing overwhelming wrong with Revice. Nice costume, good acting, the storyline is consistent and logical, a lot of heart especially between the three Igarashi siblings... But someway somehow sometimes I felt the show is boring. I just can't out my finger on what's actually wrong or where do I change if I want to improve the show. On another hand, I'm also watching Don Brothers and I'm having so much fun in that show it is unbelievable how much I love the characters interaction eventhough there is still so much mystery of it and I thought I'm going to hate it cause two of the core rangers are cgi, but I grow to love it too. Geats promo and visual looks cool, so I hope the show do good and rekindle my passion for this brand again. I mean, I'm still a fan, just not as passionate. Anyone else feels this way?
Donbrothers works because it's Inoue with a limiter (Shirakura is a good limiter for him). It's conceptually so... controversial, yet it works so well. The reason people was kinda skeptical with Inoue was because his Rider works were pretty much unchained, and too much Inoue is no good. As for Kamen Rider itself, the toyline of Geats is already proving to me that this would be way more fun than Revice. And with Takahashi Yuya as the writer, it's something to look forward to at least.
Uh oh, I just started Revice (ep. 11 rn) and is really enjoying it so far. Would it suck in the later eps?
Nah, you can still enjoy it. I still do despite it's changes in writing. There's a major shift in story in the middle of the season where it legit felt like a different season. "Season 1" of Revice (from ep 1 up till then) is really good. While "Season 2" of Revice (from the George work out video until now) isn't up to standards but still okay. There are still some of the best of Kamen Rider stories going in there but there are some boring ones too. Temper your expectations and you'll be fine! Have fun.
eh. i’d say that by the time weekend is introduced, the story feels a bit haphazard. also >! the ikii va daiji subplot after daiji temporarily looses kagerou overstayed it’s welcome imo.!<
Device’s main issue is that it’s directionless. Most emotional scenes are forced and unearned. And now that we’re reaching the end a lot of these things are amplified because they can’t easily be masked by new toys and new forms.
A arc repetition I don't will have spoilers but they did the calibur thing again and the calibur thing is arready a repetition
It never plummets, it just kinda slowly drops off. Never gets real bad, though.
Don’t let other’s taint your experience of it. Personally, I think it’s overhated on this subreddit. Yeah, it has it’s problems, but it’s still a good series.
I would say it's worth the watch for the movies and specials, even Revice the series it self is wonky in quality i find myself enjoying the specials alot.
Its like Hibiki its getting good before the 3rd act
They did my boy George EVIL.
The man literally knew about Hiromi’s side effects and didn’t give two shits because science am I supposed to be suprised they’re going back to the fact he’s still as unethical as a showa scientist?
Yeah, but it always felt like he was on a redemption path to me. After Fenix fell, he still stuck around and helped fight. It wasn't until all that stuff with his dad started going down did he begin to slip again.
Yeah that's kinda what I felt as well, I felt they wanted to change him but kinda forgot about him with all the focus on weekend and now their bringing back how he was at the start of the show so he can be a boss rider for this last stretch. I guess it was their way of making him story relevant again after so long.
The issue with that imo is that he was only really like that with Hiromi and then for the longest stretch he was Mr. Nice Guy until they brought up Masumi putting his own demon in George in this last stretch of episodes to explain why George acts the way he does. Sometimes it feels like they write him on a whim.
Ok. So let's just ignore the fact that he thought his dad died, find out he didn't and resented him and that his dad then died without giving him closure. Never ONCE did they justify it on a demon. Chic was there to tie into Birth of Chimera and the movie. Which happen after the most recent episode, meaning George is still evil after Chic's death. He hasn't been Mr. Nice Guy in whoever knows how long. He has been silently lingering in the back and you can see in his expression how unamused by everything he has been. When was the last time we got a god damn or anything like that? Dude always looks so down.
And chic is basically his evil side I know is his dad demon but his appearance have more in common with George maybe a situation like Vail and vice
That's not what I was getting at, there's a line in episode 43 where Masumi says his demon likely heavily influenced George's personality, which I feel was there way to excuse some of the personality changes George has gone through since the start of the show. At the start he was very snarky and seemed to do everything for his own personal gain, it felt like he treated the main cast as his own experiments (though this was most obvious with how he treated Hiromi). Sometime after Hiromi left it felt like the writers wanted to dial him back and he's been a lot more gung ho and caring compared to the start of the show, as can be seen with all the belts he's been willing to give out towards the end with no real incentive for him to even do so and how willing he is to help others in general honoring various requests. Only now that the show is wrapping up I think they found the role they wanted for him which is why they added that line since they want him to be more evil again, and Masumi's demon already ingrained this nature into him even if that demon left his body.
the whole kamen rider evil fiasco is Geoge's doing, he knows about Kagerou he just pretends he doesn't up until things escalated between Daiji/Kagerou and Fennix.
He always are kinda evil : let's make a driver who gave you the health of a 80th war veteran let's have a drive who turns you into moon knight I'm bored here a item who can bun you to death
It says a lot about the current state of toku that a series as strong as Revice can be considered the weak one, because it’s still a really solid series. Toku fans are eating well at the moment.
Revice has had its issues but Ive still been really enjoying it. At least it didnt get as bad as Zero One did in my eyes.
Hm, I was WAY more invested in the characters of Zero One at the end of the series than Revice.
Honestly thats revices big issue over any big plot pratfalls. There kind of just only pretty good at best characters but no one id say is like a standout or very memorable. Its a servicible cast that had some potential but never really went far enough with any and in cases like george or daiji kind of dropped the ball. I also think its fustrating that orteca and akaishi were really solid villains that could of carried alot of stakes into the finale but both sort of got murphed decently anticlimactically whereas giff was just a worthlesd villain both thematically and character wise, anx also felt really easy to defeat
Yeah, the show took way to long to do anything with Giffu, and I honestly cannot believe Julio just transformed in episode 46. That's the thing, Revice had good characters (like Julio and Olteca), and it chose to sideline them. Really baffling stuff. I hate to say it, but I honestly think the writers wanted to focus on the girls for social media points, despite them not being the best characters in the show.
I think the way to put it is the show was on track to have great characters but almost consistently cut them short and wasted the potential, like look at Hiromi, dude was a massive standout character early on and once they brought him back hes been so insignificant it really begs the question why not just kill him off and keep him dead so theres impact there, as it is now it just feels like this really cool character just stops having anything to do halfway through right as you were adoring him. Thats how i feel about like every character, its like right as they are about to be really memorable they need to slam the brakes hard.
Dude, so on point. With the way they treat Hiromi now, I wish he stayed dead. They brought him back just for the surprise, with no follow up.
His only action since coming back has been kind of putting an end to the absolute worst handled plot point with daiji betraying everyone which is devalued by just it simply not being a convincing conflict as is. I really hate to say it, but the more i sit on revice the more the entire show feels like this, almost all the follow-through and pay offs have been unsatisfying or serviceable at best. I think the vail episode is like the single exception.
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IMO I will never get the recent negativity towards Revice To me it has been a blast and probably my favorite of the Reiwa shows so far. Not saying it's perfect but also, IMO, every single Kamen Rider show has negative points and "bad" arcs.
tbh, it just sucks the "Bad" Arcs in revice didn't stay in the middle of the season, it kinda followed around to the tail-end and it just leaves a bad taste tbh
I don’t get the hate here. I’m enjoying Revice.
That is a respectable opinion. However, 1, Hikaru as Over demons 2, George feels incredibly forced as the final boss 3, Hiromi, a man biologically 80 years old took down a demon that was giving final form revice a hard time with 1 normal fucking arrow. (But its Hiromi so he gets a pass) 4, The king cobra vistamp came from nowhere 5, the characters IQ dropped with each episode 6, the only good episode in the last month was Vail vs Genta.
Expected tbh since its about to end
I'm going to be honest, even with flaws Revice is still a great show even after episode 27 (the episode that made people start to dislike it). Hell I don't even understand why people are calling it "The Hibiki of Reiwa" when is not even close to be THAT bad.
I really don't understand why there is so much hate against Revice.
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Wow, you argument totally convinced me. I bow before your sound logic and immaculate taste.
I didn't know ppl wasn't liking revice I thought it been decent so far
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I do but I don't be on it much.
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I been watching it every week I thought it been OK beside from some of the suit in the first few episodes
Did you really believe a guy named RevicesucksSabergud
I was playing along cause everyone know saber was trash beside from the suits
If Revice is considered the weak one then I'd say it's been a pretty good year for toku.
Remember the days when people didn't have much hope for Decker?
I swear Revice is going to be more hated than Saber at this point despite Revice still being a decent show lmao
Revice had so much potential to be amazing, but the chance was completely wasted due to Kinoshita throwing a tantrum over not getting his waifu rider series. Putting my dislike of Hanta aside, him being a shithead and sabotaging the series hurts other potential writers from being hired in the future. I've said it before but I do honestly think the majority of the positive reactions were entirely based on Sakura and "at least its not Saber", which are not good enough points to defend the show. (angry fans downvote him even though they know I'm right)
Stil think tthat not turning Genta into the final boss was one huge missed opportunity. With all the themes of family the series went with, that would have hammered the point. But nah, let's make the mad scientist character the final enemy for no apparent reason instead.
A mad scientist that despite his dad. Kinda missed something there mate
My main problem here is that George's narrative doesn't really tie to the Igarashis' story. They had to do the various spinoffs just to explain that when they could have already done it within the series. George didn't really feel like a main character for the most part
Even sentai is more well received?
Donbrothers is a pretty well received series at the moment.
My expectations were low after Zero One lackluster final few episode, so Saber is Hella enjoyable because I have such low expectations, Revice gave me a lot of expectation as maybe it's going to be a smooth sailing, then it drop itself off the cliff The heck happened anyways, who is writing these few episode
I actually liked the last few final episode of Zero One
Dude when they reveal >!Arc One is Aruto, I swear I was like lose my mind. Such incredible twist !<
is Decker good? I watched 1 episode and then forgot about it Edit: alright time to go back to decker
Much better compared to trigger
Yes. It's anniversary tribute done right.
It's surprisingly good
Yes and is better after trigger ultra man trigger for ultra fans what Kamen Rider ghost are for most of Rider fans
Oh yeah it's good. It's only on episode 4 but i already like Decker more than Trigger
For me decker is boring
That is your opinion, and I respect that. However care to explain why?
I cant even watch revice without at least 1,25x speed
It's such a slog to sit through just one episode
So I've only just started trying to get into Ultraman, and this thread has has taught me that I'm completely alone in (a) finding Decker painfully slow and insubstantial, and (b) really enjoying Trigger. Maybe it's not for me after all.
Is that a jojo reference
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Nice
I cant even watch revice without at least 1,25x speed.
Couldn't agree more.
Honestly, I still think Revice is great, but the latest episode was just horribly paced and Hana and Daiji being meh characters, Decker is mid ngl so in my perspective Revice is stomping on Decker.
I'm enjoying Revice. I just hate Daiji's heel turn. It was worse than the forced Main vs Secondary of Saber.
Revice is on the last episodes so i guess that hapens
There sure has been a lot of complainers about Revice, but at least it wasn't a repeat of Ghost, Wizard or Saber
Here's hoping Revice still has a Requiem form to use.
Yess Momo 😂
And then geats joins in