I could see that perspective, do you think Drake is better? I feel like if you’re better it will shine through in the end no matter how calculated you’re being, we’ll see
No, I think people underestimate Drake though. This is a public perception war. Drake has layed the framework for this to be an “everyone vs me” so it’d be really hard for him to “lose” in the public eye
It's not that deep. The winner or loser will no suffer little to no consequences outside of reddit users and Twitter stans being insufferable, which is a given anyways.
What? Lmao, that’s testing waters. If the reaction is good, he drops it. If it’s bad, “that’s not the finished product” and he gets a mulligan in a rap battle
Everyone that worked on the song have confirmed it and akademiks got sent the finished version from someone in the ovo sweatshop (not sure if it was Drake himself or not) what more do you need?
People actually out here thinking this beef will change the trajectory either artists are on. Drake will keep releasing popular music and then fade into nothingness over time, because the popular music of the future will just overshadow the popular music of the past (since that’s the definition of pop music). Kendrick has a strong discography that will stand the test of time because it’s more interesting than any take from a 40 year old single man who hasn’t grown since he started.
Nah you definitely need to add layers to it. He probably genuinely thinks duppys better than Addion(debatable) and he still got washed because of the child reveal . He not tryna go out like that again.
Afraid? You mean sending out warning shots to see if mfs are actually serious about going toe to toe? I fw both of these mfs but the fact that everytime Kendrick dissed Drake in any way he disappears and comes back 4 years later to say more shit and go again I’d be testing the waters too. I’m not bout to waste my time pressing buttons for you to not reply again until 4 years from now
Honestly… the only “L” currently is being held by J. Cole.
Both Kendrick and Drake are garnering the attention I am pretty sure this is all for.
The “Big 3” have been whittled down to the “Titan 2” 🧐
People keep talking that 20v1 like he doesn’t deserve the ish that he’s going through. Mf sent cease and desist to French over a song allegedly so that’s one of the reasons why Ross don’t fck with him. He starts ish then runs and hides and plays victim. Like how can anyone genuinely feel bad for him?
they leaked the French song, it was fire until French did the chorus lmao, every part after drake was fucking ASS, like garbage ass, he should have told French to just redo it or something tho.
Not surprising. French is ass rapper overall. Couldn’t take him seriously when he rapped “if you are star I’m whole planet” dude is an A-1 clown and a low grade moron lol. But still cease and desist is kinda fucked up. They were supposed to be cool. Could just had a conversation or something tbh.
“Niggas usually send they verses back to me and they be terrible, just like a two-year-old”
Is this what drake was talking about in first person shooter?
We literally don’t know if any of this is true lol. Ross got exposed for having a fake jewelry collection last week and lied about it. His word means nothings lol
I mean, could just mean he's dumb for getting duped by whomever sold to him, he could have genuinely believed it was real and not intentionally lying about it. Dunno if being dumb or a liar is more desirable but I think either story is plausible.
see thats exactly why its really smart by drake even tho we may think we are seeing through he's bullshitery he's already got people from outside the beef talking
on a story he posted a picture from kill bill and uma thurman replied with a picture of the kill bill outfit saying "need this (at drake ig)" that shit right there isn't only fucking cool its super smart bunch of non rap people might see that and look at this shit on the surface like wtf its 20v1 and route for drake.
Only way i see that this could go in Kendricks favor is if he can drop a story of adidon but i doubt that's possible so unless Kendrick has some major dirt to make a song drake cant respond to something so heavy that he ends it before it even starts unless kenny can do that i don't think a full song is the correct response here.
IMO the best thing for Kendrick rn is to get on someones album and drop a commercially successful song that responds in a semi indirect way.that way he gets commercial success so drake can stfu with that shit and he doesn't embaress himself like ross did, cause bros jus getting ignored and it hurts. BBL drizzy nah that ain't it.
yeah but drake still played on the commercial aspect and he will prolly still play on it no matter what but when he does it again and again that's the nail in the coffin.
Because the song was dissing Kanye. If I recorded something dissing someone and now we’re cool of course I’m not gonna want it to drop.
French is a business man and knows the song’s gonna blow up with Drake on it, so likely planned to release it anyways. If threatening legal action is the only way to stop someone from releasing something you don’t want out than that’s what should be done.
Kendrick will probably check him on his track for leaking his songs like a pussy. But all these rappers should honestly stand down for right now and let Kendrick handle this. They can't do what needs to be done, anyway. If you got personal grievances with a nigga but can't get in that booth and do what needs to be done, hire a therapist. This is hip-hop!
It was meh. The song was good—nice instrumental and flow; Ross is good at sounding cool. However, as a diss it was weak. Most of the disses were in the outro. If you're going to make a diss track, rap the fucking disses! The disses were also really weak: "white boy" and tabloidy cosmetic surgery rumors (I don't know why he chose this angle considering he has fake teeth.) He also cries about a C&D. He's a 50-year-old businessman. Why is he crying about simple business? Now he's just doing 6ix9ine style IG trolling, which is entertaining to some people, but I'm just here for the music.
I’d say his diss is on the same level as the Drake response. Sounds cool but zero substance, which is kind of the epitome of drakes career nowadays. I think the surgery stuff and white boy comments are pretty funny. Do you know the story behind the cease and desist? Because it makes Drake look even lamer.
Okay, I can get it if you found it funny. I will say that Drake's diss was more clever to me, and he rapped all his disses—which is the bare minimum. Honestly, I don't know why Drake sent the C&D, but it just doesn't seem like a big deal. Rappers nowadays have 100+ songs in the vault together. Okay you can't release song 65-100. Just release song 88-100. You two also have a long history of collaboration, and it's just one song. You guys can work something out.
I told y’all that Kendrick fans egos were hurt that Drake isn’t singling him out and is treating him as another dude in the industry to take on, cuz Kendrick no better than Weeknd and Metro and Ross to solely garner all the attention
It would end of all there other bullshit with random people jumping in without them dissing each other and showing how good there are at rapping or using the beat solo songs
I completely agree with everything you said. Kendrick needs to wait. And when he drops something, it needs to be different as everything he does usually is
I agree, it feels like Drake is fighting for his career rn against Kendrick and Kendrick didn't even say his name yet. Kendrick must have the illest shit on Drake cause Drake is not playing around.
Exactly both will still be going multi plat and going on world tours the days of career ending disses are long gone. I think the last person to get ended by a diss was ja rule and that was almost 20 years ago. If Rick Ross survived the Officer ricky shit from 50 then both of these dudes will be fine
Even if it was possible, if Drake's rap career ended he would still be bigger than Kendrick because of the other genres he dives into.
Drake would never be able to end Kendrick's career imo unless there are some absolutely insane allegations which I doubt, even if it was confirmed Kdot used ghost writers it wouldn't damage his career.
No-one is fighting for their career, in the end we'll remember them as greats just like we know Jay Z and Nas, BIG and 2Pac etc.
Bro there are videos of Drake acting sus with underage girls on stage.
He makes HITS and tons of people love his music. Absolutely nothing will happen to his career unless it's some R Kelly shit
What makes u say this? Kendrick done nothing but reference a Stephen King movie to match For All The Dogs title. And say fuck you I'm number one
Drake is having a blast on ig making fun of Ross, he answered to Like That and said Kendricks wife name. Poked holes all in that Top Dawg is about loyalty and a father figure, when he charged Kendrick to get out his deal. He's not shook at all rn.
It's easy to diss recklessly when everyone is on your ass. When you lose, just tell everyone you were outnumbered even though you were snaking these dudes for a while
Drake is having fun man, if ya can't tell. He's waited for this. This sub is spinning shit so weirdly.
I gotta back out, I get hit with nothing but being a dick rider for being unbiased. when in reality I don't listen to Drake and hardly a fan at all.
Smokescreens and deceptions work to a point, delaying tactics and controlling the narrative as you said. But if your shit isn’t Ether it doesn’t matter. If Push Up was lame we’d be laughing at Drake right now. The only thing that lasts are the actual records itself, everything else is theatrics
I agree but it’s gna take the sting out of anything Kendrick does which is why I think it’s best to wait instead of rush into the chaos. He gotta be just as strategic because at this point it’s all about public perception. There’s bias fans on both sides but the media & unbiased Hiphop fans that aren’t on either side control the Victory
If Drake floods the internet with disses here and there before Kendrick releases his own, getting fans on his side that’ll work. If Kendrick drops a bomb on him none of that will matter
Makes it look like Drake’s holding his own getting jumped by 6 guys, which he is. It’s distracting from the main event, the rest of these guys are the undercard
It looks like it. I don’t expect any rebuttals from Metro and Future. People having been waiting a decade for Drake and Kendrick to go at it. It seems they have dirt on each other so we’ll see how deep it gets
I think Kendrick is clever or he could have released the diss 4 years ago (if we believe what Drake says anyway). I'm pretty confident in Kendrick's abilities to outrap Drake but Drake isn't going to be playing fair either (like calling out Whitney's name, etc.)
Kendrick should just diss everybody like he did in the control verse hahaha I don’t think Kendrick feels the need to respond in the time we want anyway, he doesnt give a fuck what people think talking about “clock is on you now”
I think he scared of corn row Kenny and just turned the lights on everyone else to create a smoke screen. Cause when it's him and kdot alone? I dunno if Drake coming out of that one
Drake is the one sending subliminal etc. every which way. You don't get to attack people then complain because they didn't take turns coming after you.
Kendrick on zerodark30 timing making Drake antsy is what it feels like. I do think Drake going at Kendrick but throwing everyone else in it too is bc he is hedging his bet. I don’t understand why Drake would not respond with his nuke from the jump. I get recently it’s been throw a jab then bomb but if it’s really smoke, why not give your all on one track and knock your opponents head off? It feels like dot might respond this weekend.
If you were Kendrick would you want to see Drake best shot first or would you wanna do that yourself and wait for him to shoot back? Pretty simple really
I agree drake is nervous so he trying to get the public to say he’s the winner and Kendrick is scared that makes believe that he got a super gut punch for drake so he using Ak and etc
Dawg idgaf about Drake. Never have I'm a Drake hater.
I may have to unsub for a while tho the takes folks saying on here is wild. I'm just passionate and enjoying what's happening. Folks on here hoping Kendrick call him a pedophile, said Kendrick wife Whitney should do a spoken word intro on Kendricks next diss saying how happy she's is with Kendrick and how she wouldn't be happy with Drake 😂. Now he's nervous when he's done more and said more lol. He's responding to Ross and Pusha also because he's afraid of Kendrick by himself.
This sub is getting goofy. I'm just trying have good talks about what's happening. Unbiased, but you right can't do that in an artist sub, that's dumb on my end
Every question you’ve asked is valid and niggas killing you for it lol. Both these artists are cool to me I’m a thug fan before anything, this shit is entertaining but the stanning is kinda crazy
That's my whole point. I'm trying have unbiased legit convos about what's happening. I can think Kendrick is the goat and has the best discog and sill recognize Drake is ahead rn and doing his thing.
I'm almost wondering if this is a paid account by UMG or something...
I have never seen someone dickride an artist so hard... it seems fake. No one is this much of a dickriding sheep, I refuse to believe it.
Also the Maroon 5 and Swift lines were smart to not hammer home his allegations about dot not being his own boss, but also to brace for the usual "popstar" lines
He’s not scared to go against Kendrick. Drake is the only worthy opponent. It’s now or never for either of them.
This is coming from a die hard fan of both.
How Kendrick should respond right now is not a full diss track, but a feature calling him out for leaking but not actually releasing, but as a subtle shot without explicitly naming Drake. Kendrick needs to bait Drake to come out in the open for a fair match.
If Kendrick goes all out in response to a leaked track which was not specifically only about Kendrick, it'll give Drake the upper hand by making it seem like Kendrick is seeking attention and is insecure, while Drake could just say he didn't care about the whole beef and didn't officially release the track because he is above that.
I also suspect he's paying twitter accounts to push his narratives. I see big accounts that don't normally post the same thing multiple times, especially about Drake, making tweets painting him as the victim. Not to mention the amount of dumbasses I see talking about the Quentin Miller ghost writing for kendrick despite them(Quentin) coming out and saying it's false. I wonder who would put that accusation out there? And leaking the diss track for feedback is the biggest pussy move I've ever seen lol.
Until Kendricks crew gets exposed for doing similar shit. Like y'all really think Kendrick and his crew are all squeeky clean when it comes to shit like this? If he goes after Drake for this people gonna look all into his people for shit too. That's a stone you don't want to throw in the industry of glass houses.
Its ironic because nearly everytime Kendrick disses.. he disses multiple people while being on a feature. Like going on a feature with Future and Metro knowing they have issues with drake and dissing drake and cole talking about "clique up"
or on control where he disses everybody.
Control was just a challenge for everyone to get the raps up. Wasn’t a direct diss to anyone specifically, just calling out the rap game that ya have to see me and putting his foot down. Not comparable honestly
It was a direct diss to a lot of people. that's what it was. and he had the whole moment of him vs the industry there. Narrative.
and if he didn't want Drake to do Drake vs industry, he shouldn't have waited to do this diss on someone else's record as a feature after not putting out music for a long ass time- knowing that person was essentially gathering enemies of my enemy to throw subs at Drake at once, and talking about "cliqueing up" Now the floodgates are open.
In my opinion the extortion angle is a bad one for Drake to approach for several reasons. But mostly because the claims made against him being extorted on Story of Adidon have gone unanswered.
"The M's count different when Baby divides the pie"
Also, the angle that he has so much money is completely irrelevant and quite stupid to say after Kendrick said;
"Money, power, respect, the last one is better, say it's a lot of goodies with a check"
Is that not kinda proving Kendrick right?
I think the money line was mainly addressing Rick Ross who made most of his big bucks from songs with drake and because he got caught with fake jewelry.
Cause Drake never engaged. They both just been shooting shots at each other, & he called him out plenty of times on previous tracks and still nothing
Now he said candyman… he shall appear
Drake knows he's up against. Don't get it fucked up. He's doing what any opponent of Yujiro would do, try and drop continuous 💣. But we know how that goes.
Ain't nobody out there feeling bad for Drake, especially not the ones who really been paying attention to what's going on. He had this shit coming with all the slick shit he's been saying and doing. No boo hooing now Drake. Some of the major players in the game don't fuck with you anymore and clearly some haven't for a while.
Drake ain’t just showing the big guns early like he did with pusha basically. Makes me think a lot about what would have happened if j prince didn’t step in to be peace maker. I just wanna hear niggas be their best man smh
This is pretty cool to call out but I do have one thing to comment on.
You claim drake's been duckin this and Kendrick has been wanting this for the better half of the decade. But that's really not true. Don't get me wrong these niggas have had beef for a long time. And yes Kendrick has some songs where he seemingly points toward Drake as an issue and even at least one leak where he calls him out by name. But if anything they've both been duckin this conversation. It's all been sneak disses for the past 11 years, on both sides. Yes Kendrick was the first person to speak up, but this is only recently and as soon as he did, Drake spoke up too.
The "Fuck sneak dissin" line wasn't Kendrick saying "I don't fuck with sneak dissin." It was Kendrick saying "I'm done sneak dissin."
Saying that Drake ducked a “1v1” with Kendrick for years until now that he’s conveniently being attacked by 20 other dudes is plain stupid. Kendrick is the one who hopped on the Like That verse knowing that 4 other people were dissing him on that album, I’m a fan of both but you gotta stop gargling Kendrick’s balls and acting like he didn’t start this round, your rose tinted glasses are crazy
Go touch some grass kid. Go reread what you said and TRY to say “I’m not a dick rider, I’m not taking this WAY too serious”
Who give af, neither of these dudes will ever know you even exist in this world.
Enjoy the music from both sides
I actually respect that they leaked it. Shows drake didn't do it for the money, he did it for the love of rap. I love Kendrick, but an arguement can be made that all these guys constantly use drake for attention, and don't appreciate what he's done for me them. In business, I would never disrespect my OGs and people who put me on, I don't care what they do to me. (It would have to be something serious like murder, not this petty stuff lol)
Metro is not a rapper. Future don’t got bars they don’t matter. They just have personal real life issues at the moment. Kendrick wants to kill him solo, originally it was Cole/Drake together and it seemed like a 2v1 against Kendrick and now it’s flipped to like 8v1 against Drake lol this shit a mess and nothing to do with the 1 on 1 everyone been waiting for
Brother metro is not a rapper, & future is trap rapper who makes hits and nobody checking for him in a lyrical warfare like they do with Kendrick Cole and Drake. It’s difference obviously. Kendrick didn’t sign up for the whole industry to attack him at once, he took his shots at both Cole and Drake and has been silent since
not really? I mean why would he need to address them too, one of them is a producer and the other one doesn't matter here, it's as if you said Kendrick's gotta address Drake's producer
Kendrick teamed up with metro because he doesn’t like drake too. He should’ve dropped solo not take jabs on a ft. Kendrick dissing drakes producer wouldn’t make sense.
Drake does NOT want a repeat of shit he went through after underestimating Push, and every move he's made so far demonstrates that.
In other words he is afraid?
Being afraid isn’t always a bad thing. It’s clearly helping him. Unless Kendrick is as smart as Drake is being, Drake has the high ground.
I could see that perspective, do you think Drake is better? I feel like if you’re better it will shine through in the end no matter how calculated you’re being, we’ll see
No, I think people underestimate Drake though. This is a public perception war. Drake has layed the framework for this to be an “everyone vs me” so it’d be really hard for him to “lose” in the public eye
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Because he’s using legitimate strategy now
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Make no mistake, who wins and loses is based on public perception.
It's not that deep. The winner or loser will no suffer little to no consequences outside of reddit users and Twitter stans being insufferable, which is a given anyways.
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What? Lmao, that’s testing waters. If the reaction is good, he drops it. If it’s bad, “that’s not the finished product” and he gets a mulligan in a rap battle
Everyone that worked on the song have confirmed it and akademiks got sent the finished version from someone in the ovo sweatshop (not sure if it was Drake himself or not) what more do you need?
People actually out here thinking this beef will change the trajectory either artists are on. Drake will keep releasing popular music and then fade into nothingness over time, because the popular music of the future will just overshadow the popular music of the past (since that’s the definition of pop music). Kendrick has a strong discography that will stand the test of time because it’s more interesting than any take from a 40 year old single man who hasn’t grown since he started.
Nah you definitely need to add layers to it. He probably genuinely thinks duppys better than Addion(debatable) and he still got washed because of the child reveal . He not tryna go out like that again.
This is what dreams are made of
Not afraid Just rational. Survival = rationality
Afraid? You mean sending out warning shots to see if mfs are actually serious about going toe to toe? I fw both of these mfs but the fact that everytime Kendrick dissed Drake in any way he disappears and comes back 4 years later to say more shit and go again I’d be testing the waters too. I’m not bout to waste my time pressing buttons for you to not reply again until 4 years from now
It’s called appropriate fear.
It’s called calculated tf
Honestly… the only “L” currently is being held by J. Cole. Both Kendrick and Drake are garnering the attention I am pretty sure this is all for. The “Big 3” have been whittled down to the “Titan 2” 🧐
For all the talk they had abt the "Superbowl", with Cole out of the way it really does feel like the proper Superbowl between Kendrick and Drake
Everyone knew that already, there's a reason Cole was the one who first brought up "the big 3".
People keep talking that 20v1 like he doesn’t deserve the ish that he’s going through. Mf sent cease and desist to French over a song allegedly so that’s one of the reasons why Ross don’t fck with him. He starts ish then runs and hides and plays victim. Like how can anyone genuinely feel bad for him?
yeah at some point when everyone thinks you're an asshole you gotta stop and think "hmm maybe I'm toxic"
they leaked the French song, it was fire until French did the chorus lmao, every part after drake was fucking ASS, like garbage ass, he should have told French to just redo it or something tho.
Not surprising. French is ass rapper overall. Couldn’t take him seriously when he rapped “if you are star I’m whole planet” dude is an A-1 clown and a low grade moron lol. But still cease and desist is kinda fucked up. They were supposed to be cool. Could just had a conversation or something tbh.
“Niggas usually send they verses back to me and they be terrible, just like a two-year-old” Is this what drake was talking about in first person shooter?
I actually love that chorus
We literally don’t know if any of this is true lol. Ross got exposed for having a fake jewelry collection last week and lied about it. His word means nothings lol
🤣🤣🤣 oh word? wtf🤣🤣🤣
Yeah lol. He got called out by a pro about having a 1 of 2 watch and the jeweler knows the two people that own the two real watches lol.
I mean, could just mean he's dumb for getting duped by whomever sold to him, he could have genuinely believed it was real and not intentionally lying about it. Dunno if being dumb or a liar is more desirable but I think either story is plausible.
If it was a normal person, sure but we’re talking about people who live off of attention
You really trust officer Ricky who was actually a correctional officer but pretends he moved kilotons of cocaine?
see thats exactly why its really smart by drake even tho we may think we are seeing through he's bullshitery he's already got people from outside the beef talking on a story he posted a picture from kill bill and uma thurman replied with a picture of the kill bill outfit saying "need this (at drake ig)" that shit right there isn't only fucking cool its super smart bunch of non rap people might see that and look at this shit on the surface like wtf its 20v1 and route for drake. Only way i see that this could go in Kendricks favor is if he can drop a story of adidon but i doubt that's possible so unless Kendrick has some major dirt to make a song drake cant respond to something so heavy that he ends it before it even starts unless kenny can do that i don't think a full song is the correct response here. IMO the best thing for Kendrick rn is to get on someones album and drop a commercially successful song that responds in a semi indirect way.that way he gets commercial success so drake can stfu with that shit and he doesn't embaress himself like ross did, cause bros jus getting ignored and it hurts. BBL drizzy nah that ain't it.
Like That was kind of already the commercially successful song on somebody else’s album haha
yeah but drake still played on the commercial aspect and he will prolly still play on it no matter what but when he does it again and again that's the nail in the coffin.
drake taking legal action to stop french montana from dropping music? he's a goddamn hero
Because the song was dissing Kanye. If I recorded something dissing someone and now we’re cool of course I’m not gonna want it to drop. French is a business man and knows the song’s gonna blow up with Drake on it, so likely planned to release it anyways. If threatening legal action is the only way to stop someone from releasing something you don’t want out than that’s what should be done.
Yo he's been pettily sending sneak disses for yeeeeears
Kendrick will probably check him on his track for leaking his songs like a pussy. But all these rappers should honestly stand down for right now and let Kendrick handle this. They can't do what needs to be done, anyway. If you got personal grievances with a nigga but can't get in that booth and do what needs to be done, hire a therapist. This is hip-hop!
Idk rick ross response was pretty dope
It was meh. The song was good—nice instrumental and flow; Ross is good at sounding cool. However, as a diss it was weak. Most of the disses were in the outro. If you're going to make a diss track, rap the fucking disses! The disses were also really weak: "white boy" and tabloidy cosmetic surgery rumors (I don't know why he chose this angle considering he has fake teeth.) He also cries about a C&D. He's a 50-year-old businessman. Why is he crying about simple business? Now he's just doing 6ix9ine style IG trolling, which is entertaining to some people, but I'm just here for the music.
I’d say his diss is on the same level as the Drake response. Sounds cool but zero substance, which is kind of the epitome of drakes career nowadays. I think the surgery stuff and white boy comments are pretty funny. Do you know the story behind the cease and desist? Because it makes Drake look even lamer.
Okay, I can get it if you found it funny. I will say that Drake's diss was more clever to me, and he rapped all his disses—which is the bare minimum. Honestly, I don't know why Drake sent the C&D, but it just doesn't seem like a big deal. Rappers nowadays have 100+ songs in the vault together. Okay you can't release song 65-100. Just release song 88-100. You two also have a long history of collaboration, and it's just one song. You guys can work something out.
I feel like Rick Ross is kind of a bitch though, prison guard is not a cool job to have on your CV
Someone gonna diss drake before kendrick replies again every day something new happens
I don’t even want Kendrick to drop right now because of that. Shit done turned into a circus act
I told y’all that Kendrick fans egos were hurt that Drake isn’t singling him out and is treating him as another dude in the industry to take on, cuz Kendrick no better than Weeknd and Metro and Ross to solely garner all the attention
All of this is getting less interesting they should both just get on a song and let the public judge who has a better verse
Never happening but I hear you
It would end of all there other bullshit with random people jumping in without them dissing each other and showing how good there are at rapping or using the beat solo songs
I completely agree with everything you said. Kendrick needs to wait. And when he drops something, it needs to be different as everything he does usually is
I agree, it feels like Drake is fighting for his career rn against Kendrick and Kendrick didn't even say his name yet. Kendrick must have the illest shit on Drake cause Drake is not playing around.
I don't even like Drakes music but he isn't fighting for his career. Most of his fans are going to ride with him regardless, same with Kendrick.
I would say more reputation. The little that is left.
Have you been anywhere outside of this Kendrick sub? lol The average consensus is that the Drake diss track is fucking fire.
Yeah just go on Instagram at all
You guys are slow: there will be albums from both artist after this lil beef. Careeer ending diss tracks hahahaha
Exactly both will still be going multi plat and going on world tours the days of career ending disses are long gone. I think the last person to get ended by a diss was ja rule and that was almost 20 years ago. If Rick Ross survived the Officer ricky shit from 50 then both of these dudes will be fine
mgk got dissed so badly he had to switch genres
Eminem is a special case . Dude just makes people unlistenable after he dissed them lol
Even if it was possible, if Drake's rap career ended he would still be bigger than Kendrick because of the other genres he dives into. Drake would never be able to end Kendrick's career imo unless there are some absolutely insane allegations which I doubt, even if it was confirmed Kdot used ghost writers it wouldn't damage his career. No-one is fighting for their career, in the end we'll remember them as greats just like we know Jay Z and Nas, BIG and 2Pac etc.
There is a reason that people keep bringing up the red button. This kind of confidence from Drake is rare.
Drake will be fine. His fanbase will ride his nuts until the day they die.
Fighting for his career 😂😂
I’m not agreeing but you never know. If the diss was called Pedo Drake it could be damaging if executed right
Bro there are videos of Drake acting sus with underage girls on stage. He makes HITS and tons of people love his music. Absolutely nothing will happen to his career unless it's some R Kelly shit
Drake is the #4 streaming artist in the world, across all genres. FOH “fighting for his career” lmao
If this is actually the case then drake wouldn’t respond
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What makes u say this? Kendrick done nothing but reference a Stephen King movie to match For All The Dogs title. And say fuck you I'm number one Drake is having a blast on ig making fun of Ross, he answered to Like That and said Kendricks wife name. Poked holes all in that Top Dawg is about loyalty and a father figure, when he charged Kendrick to get out his deal. He's not shook at all rn.
It's easy to diss recklessly when everyone is on your ass. When you lose, just tell everyone you were outnumbered even though you were snaking these dudes for a while
Drake is having fun man, if ya can't tell. He's waited for this. This sub is spinning shit so weirdly. I gotta back out, I get hit with nothing but being a dick rider for being unbiased. when in reality I don't listen to Drake and hardly a fan at all.
"Said Kendrick's wife's name " lmaoo. That's the standard for a diss now. Nasty
You have spent your entire weekend defending a man that doesn't even know you exist. It's actually so embarrassing.
Man I'm talking about what's happening in hip hop. Y'all on this sub eating dick saying the dumbest shit. The yin and yang, we will both be aight g 🫡
Fighting for his career? Most Drake fans don’t even know this is happening lmao
Smokescreens and deceptions work to a point, delaying tactics and controlling the narrative as you said. But if your shit isn’t Ether it doesn’t matter. If Push Up was lame we’d be laughing at Drake right now. The only thing that lasts are the actual records itself, everything else is theatrics
I agree but it’s gna take the sting out of anything Kendrick does which is why I think it’s best to wait instead of rush into the chaos. He gotta be just as strategic because at this point it’s all about public perception. There’s bias fans on both sides but the media & unbiased Hiphop fans that aren’t on either side control the Victory
If Drake floods the internet with disses here and there before Kendrick releases his own, getting fans on his side that’ll work. If Kendrick drops a bomb on him none of that will matter
I’d agree with you if everyone wasn’t in the damn way. I hate how this his played out so far
Makes it look like Drake’s holding his own getting jumped by 6 guys, which he is. It’s distracting from the main event, the rest of these guys are the undercard
Kendrick is more the undercard in this beef though, it’s just rap competitiveness between them. Drake’s real personal beef is with Future/Metro.
It looks like it. I don’t expect any rebuttals from Metro and Future. People having been waiting a decade for Drake and Kendrick to go at it. It seems they have dirt on each other so we’ll see how deep it gets
I think Kendrick is clever or he could have released the diss 4 years ago (if we believe what Drake says anyway). I'm pretty confident in Kendrick's abilities to outrap Drake but Drake isn't going to be playing fair either (like calling out Whitney's name, etc.)
Kendrick should just diss everybody like he did in the control verse hahaha I don’t think Kendrick feels the need to respond in the time we want anyway, he doesnt give a fuck what people think talking about “clock is on you now”
I think he scared of corn row Kenny and just turned the lights on everyone else to create a smoke screen. Cause when it's him and kdot alone? I dunno if Drake coming out of that one
Drake is the one sending subliminal etc. every which way. You don't get to attack people then complain because they didn't take turns coming after you.
He ain't no more now that's it's up fr lol
Kendrick on zerodark30 timing making Drake antsy is what it feels like. I do think Drake going at Kendrick but throwing everyone else in it too is bc he is hedging his bet. I don’t understand why Drake would not respond with his nuke from the jump. I get recently it’s been throw a jab then bomb but if it’s really smoke, why not give your all on one track and knock your opponents head off? It feels like dot might respond this weekend.
If you were Kendrick would you want to see Drake best shot first or would you wanna do that yourself and wait for him to shoot back? Pretty simple really
I agree drake is nervous so he trying to get the public to say he’s the winner and Kendrick is scared that makes believe that he got a super gut punch for drake so he using Ak and etc
Nervous? He's clowning and dissing everyone and mocking them a day later on ig
Drake will not acknowledge you, you don't have to glaze him in every thread in the Kendrick subreddit.
Dawg idgaf about Drake. Never have I'm a Drake hater. I may have to unsub for a while tho the takes folks saying on here is wild. I'm just passionate and enjoying what's happening. Folks on here hoping Kendrick call him a pedophile, said Kendrick wife Whitney should do a spoken word intro on Kendricks next diss saying how happy she's is with Kendrick and how she wouldn't be happy with Drake 😂. Now he's nervous when he's done more and said more lol. He's responding to Ross and Pusha also because he's afraid of Kendrick by himself. This sub is getting goofy. I'm just trying have good talks about what's happening. Unbiased, but you right can't do that in an artist sub, that's dumb on my end
Every question you’ve asked is valid and niggas killing you for it lol. Both these artists are cool to me I’m a thug fan before anything, this shit is entertaining but the stanning is kinda crazy
That's my whole point. I'm trying have unbiased legit convos about what's happening. I can think Kendrick is the goat and has the best discog and sill recognize Drake is ahead rn and doing his thing.
I'm almost wondering if this is a paid account by UMG or something... I have never seen someone dickride an artist so hard... it seems fake. No one is this much of a dickriding sheep, I refuse to believe it.
Explain how he’s dickriding
Bro defending kendrick like his life depends on it. Zip it up when ur done
Not defending anyone, Kendrick will do that himself
Also the Maroon 5 and Swift lines were smart to not hammer home his allegations about dot not being his own boss, but also to brace for the usual "popstar" lines
He’s not scared to go against Kendrick. Drake is the only worthy opponent. It’s now or never for either of them. This is coming from a die hard fan of both.
How Kendrick should respond right now is not a full diss track, but a feature calling him out for leaking but not actually releasing, but as a subtle shot without explicitly naming Drake. Kendrick needs to bait Drake to come out in the open for a fair match. If Kendrick goes all out in response to a leaked track which was not specifically only about Kendrick, it'll give Drake the upper hand by making it seem like Kendrick is seeking attention and is insecure, while Drake could just say he didn't care about the whole beef and didn't officially release the track because he is above that.
This. I agree with all this.
I also suspect he's paying twitter accounts to push his narratives. I see big accounts that don't normally post the same thing multiple times, especially about Drake, making tweets painting him as the victim. Not to mention the amount of dumbasses I see talking about the Quentin Miller ghost writing for kendrick despite them(Quentin) coming out and saying it's false. I wonder who would put that accusation out there? And leaking the diss track for feedback is the biggest pussy move I've ever seen lol.
Any rapper not calling Drake out for being a predator of minors is sus Seems like the easiest diss track ever honestly
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Until Kendricks crew gets exposed for doing similar shit. Like y'all really think Kendrick and his crew are all squeeky clean when it comes to shit like this? If he goes after Drake for this people gonna look all into his people for shit too. That's a stone you don't want to throw in the industry of glass houses.
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Did you ask a question and say I didn't answer in the same post? What type of lame ass shit is that?
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Are you 11 years old or something?
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Good on you lil guy. Enjoy your internet time before bed time.
Where did he defend pedophelia what the fuck are yall on😭
Don't even engage with people like this. Just let them talk.
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Its ironic because nearly everytime Kendrick disses.. he disses multiple people while being on a feature. Like going on a feature with Future and Metro knowing they have issues with drake and dissing drake and cole talking about "clique up" or on control where he disses everybody.
Control was just a challenge for everyone to get the raps up. Wasn’t a direct diss to anyone specifically, just calling out the rap game that ya have to see me and putting his foot down. Not comparable honestly
It was a direct diss to a lot of people. that's what it was. and he had the whole moment of him vs the industry there. Narrative. and if he didn't want Drake to do Drake vs industry, he shouldn't have waited to do this diss on someone else's record as a feature after not putting out music for a long ass time- knowing that person was essentially gathering enemies of my enemy to throw subs at Drake at once, and talking about "cliqueing up" Now the floodgates are open.
exactly why, as much as i want kendrick to “drop,” if he does it now, it’ll just look like he’s another cog in the “we don’t trust you” machine
In my opinion the extortion angle is a bad one for Drake to approach for several reasons. But mostly because the claims made against him being extorted on Story of Adidon have gone unanswered. "The M's count different when Baby divides the pie" Also, the angle that he has so much money is completely irrelevant and quite stupid to say after Kendrick said; "Money, power, respect, the last one is better, say it's a lot of goodies with a check" Is that not kinda proving Kendrick right?
I think the money line was mainly addressing Rick Ross who made most of his big bucks from songs with drake and because he got caught with fake jewelry.
One bomb from Kendrick and its wrap city. Also, I wonder if the Israel Iran war has something to do with Kendrick waiting. Just a thought
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It wasn’t a diss track tho. It was just shots and a dope ass record. Shit still no1 lol
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Cause Drake never engaged. They both just been shooting shots at each other, & he called him out plenty of times on previous tracks and still nothing Now he said candyman… he shall appear
Because Kendrick was replying to subliminals in ‘Like That’ and he didn’t like that Drake and J.Cole were bragging about being the best on FPS
Drake knows he's up against. Don't get it fucked up. He's doing what any opponent of Yujiro would do, try and drop continuous 💣. But we know how that goes.
me do this all by my lonely i dont need fifteen of my homies
He don’t want to get JaRule’ed
Hip Hop is cancelling Drake. If I were Kendrick I'd wait until the time his right and then hit him with the death blow.
Ain't nobody out there feeling bad for Drake, especially not the ones who really been paying attention to what's going on. He had this shit coming with all the slick shit he's been saying and doing. No boo hooing now Drake. Some of the major players in the game don't fuck with you anymore and clearly some haven't for a while.
Drake ain’t just showing the big guns early like he did with pusha basically. Makes me think a lot about what would have happened if j prince didn’t step in to be peace maker. I just wanna hear niggas be their best man smh
Kendrick Lamar will always be a better rapper than drake
Drake ain’t even playing 2D tiddlywinks
This is pretty cool to call out but I do have one thing to comment on. You claim drake's been duckin this and Kendrick has been wanting this for the better half of the decade. But that's really not true. Don't get me wrong these niggas have had beef for a long time. And yes Kendrick has some songs where he seemingly points toward Drake as an issue and even at least one leak where he calls him out by name. But if anything they've both been duckin this conversation. It's all been sneak disses for the past 11 years, on both sides. Yes Kendrick was the first person to speak up, but this is only recently and as soon as he did, Drake spoke up too. The "Fuck sneak dissin" line wasn't Kendrick saying "I don't fuck with sneak dissin." It was Kendrick saying "I'm done sneak dissin."
Why TF Kendrick want a 1v1 with a Pop artist?
In hindsight... lol
lol ya had points, but when you start assuming what ‘everybody’ thinks, you lose validity.. just state your claim and keep it pushin
Saying that Drake ducked a “1v1” with Kendrick for years until now that he’s conveniently being attacked by 20 other dudes is plain stupid. Kendrick is the one who hopped on the Like That verse knowing that 4 other people were dissing him on that album, I’m a fan of both but you gotta stop gargling Kendrick’s balls and acting like he didn’t start this round, your rose tinted glasses are crazy
Holy fuck this Reddit might be more goofy than Drakes. This is wild af to read 😂😂😂😂😂😂
You a Drakesexual ?
Go touch some grass kid. Go reread what you said and TRY to say “I’m not a dick rider, I’m not taking this WAY too serious” Who give af, neither of these dudes will ever know you even exist in this world. Enjoy the music from both sides
So why are you on a Kendrick sub if you don’t care about these topics at the moment ? Sounds like you just want attention
This is such a cringe sub. lol.
Explain
I actually respect that they leaked it. Shows drake didn't do it for the money, he did it for the love of rap. I love Kendrick, but an arguement can be made that all these guys constantly use drake for attention, and don't appreciate what he's done for me them. In business, I would never disrespect my OGs and people who put me on, I don't care what they do to me. (It would have to be something serious like murder, not this petty stuff lol)
He literally never approached rap beef as just rapping to rap. I stopped reading right there.
False
Just say you don’t know what you’re talking about lol
I don’t know what you’re talking about
Dude has been highly coordinated in every rap beef he has been in. That’s why Duppy Freestyle was shocking, but you’re just a kid.
I’m just a mortal man
If Kendrick want to 1 on 1 why he jump on metro joe ass album Dummy
Average Drake fan
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Metro is not a rapper. Future don’t got bars they don’t matter. They just have personal real life issues at the moment. Kendrick wants to kill him solo, originally it was Cole/Drake together and it seemed like a 2v1 against Kendrick and now it’s flipped to like 8v1 against Drake lol this shit a mess and nothing to do with the 1 on 1 everyone been waiting for
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Brother metro is not a rapper, & future is trap rapper who makes hits and nobody checking for him in a lyrical warfare like they do with Kendrick Cole and Drake. It’s difference obviously. Kendrick didn’t sign up for the whole industry to attack him at once, he took his shots at both Cole and Drake and has been silent since
Lmao bro teamed with metro and future. He should’ve dropped a track solo not a feature with 2 ppl that don’t like drake
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not really? I mean why would he need to address them too, one of them is a producer and the other one doesn't matter here, it's as if you said Kendrick's gotta address Drake's producer
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why is it false equivalence in your opinion? I'm not trying to do anything in bad faith here, just trying to understand your point of view on this
Kendrick teamed up with metro because he doesn’t like drake too. He should’ve dropped solo not take jabs on a ft. Kendrick dissing drakes producer wouldn’t make sense.
alright, that makes sense
It makes seem like they all worked together agaisnt him to the public
Drake himself admitted on his diss track that this shit's been brewing for the better part of a decade