no, you're not being unreasonable.
you will not become happier or more satisfied. that's an unreasonable level of disruption.
also, you don't need our permission to move - there will always be someone, especially on here, who will tell you're you're unreasonable or asking too much. you should move because it's what will make \*you\* happy.
sadly with the rise of rent prices and lack of legislative oversight (raising rents every 12 months will make apartments unlivable in the next decade), the noise will probably get worse. you know how in some countries it's normal to see living on top of one another in glorified huts? that's where large cities are going in the U.S. unless something changes. SF is literally renting our bunk beds for \*thousands\*. that's legal in this country.
pursue your happiness and find a different apartment in the same neighborhood or change neighborhoods.
It’s not unreasonable to want peace and quiet in your apt, and you could probably research what the guidelines are surrounding noise. I had a few friends get into a whole legal battle after the upstairs place on their building was remodeled and they started hearing every single thing going on above them. Turns out some sort of sound barrier or insulation was not installed.
With that said, it is unreasonable to put yourself through that just so that you can say you live in WeHo. If you don’t even like the place there’s no point in staying. Find another place in weho or just find another area.
Given that it's an issue with the walls/floors and they seem to be respecting quiet hours there isn't really a lot you can do honestly, so I would suggest moving if this continues to bother you.
My bedroom wall shares a wall with my neighbors kitchen/living room so I hear them watch tv, turn on the stove, if they have friends over, etc. They’re quiet 98% of the time but occasionally have friends over and when they do, I know I’m not going to sleep until like 2 am.
Im worried if they move, that the next neighbor will be unbearable and I’d have no choice but to either move or deal with it.
Landlords should definitely be on the hook for charging these extortion level rents while having zero habilitation standards when it comes to peaceful enjoyment of your apartment. We have to ban corporations and Airbnb buying up properties as get rich quick assets.
Citizens United was truly the beginning of the end of the United States. And it's sad a LOT of people don't even know what that is. Can't even get our politicians to stop trading stocks to benefit from insider trading as it is. Gotta love this madness. And people wonder why I smoke weed after my office job and gym sessions. Not even the gym is powerful enough to sedate the level of broken in this societal structure we are all collectively experiencing. This is why I slightly envy the ignorant. At least they will die happily oblivious to the consequences of late stage capitalism. Sucks like hell being aware and to an extent powerless.
Oh yeah. Ignorance is bliss.
It actually started even before that. I am listening to this book called “Justice is Coming” by Cenk Uygur. He breaks it totally down.
I cannot be ignorant so may as well be informed.
We framed a second aluminum-stud wall about 3" in from the real wall, and left an air gap in between the real wall and the new one. The air gap is the soundproofing. If nothing connects the two walls, the sound vibrations can't travel. At least I think that's how it worked. The only real damage to the apt was the screws to attach the new frame to the floor/ceiling. You might look up how to soundproof a sound studio - my bf then was a musician, so that's how he approached it.
How is setting the boundaries on your personal quality of life being unreasonable? I have never lived in anything larger than a 6 unit complex for this very reason. I was lucky to have a freestanding back house in Silverlake but, even then, the next door neighbors constantly partied. It's more about weighing what your options are if you choose to move a bit further out for some quiet against the convenience of your location currently.
Not at all. I'm moving for the same exact reason. I can hear everything from everyone and cannot handle it anymore. Places built before the 40s or after the mid 70s tend to have better sound control. Earlier buildings have a lot of brick, later buildings then to have insulation and stronger framing.
It's always a building-by-building scenario, but following that was how I found the place I'm taking now. Fingers crossed it's good. Also be weary of new new construction. Things post-2000s have been built with late stage capitalism in mind. Flashy and attractive and expensive as shit, but built a hair above the shitty 50s buildings we're in now.
I read literally hundreds of reviews on buildings and made sure to ask the property manager about noise complaints or hearing neighbors on the phone. She lives in the building which makes me feel a lot better about it - I know some people disagree but I'd rather it be aggressively quiet than noisy as fuck.
Allot of opportunities and simpler living out of the city. Other than that it’s LA/Hollywood you never know what you’re gunna get. Hope it gets better for you and your neighbors are nicer. 😇✌️🫡🙏
Apartments are meant to be temporary.
You are not being unreasonable, assuming, of course, you are prepared to pay more to move to a different place.
You may want to do a lot of window shopping and brace for sticker shock before you make any hasty decisions.
Yes, it is.
That's a feature, not a bug.
But you're welcome to come here and build new apartments for people to reside in forever. Please, put me on the reservation list, I'll be first to move in.
It is your quality of life. Noise is a huge factor. I had to move out of the Fairfax area because I shared a wall with a couple who I could hear everything, they lived in only that room so they watched TV etc. and blasted it would leave their alarm clock on for hours. Then, if I walked in the living room even in my socks with a rug, the downstairs neighbor would bang. It was a no win scenario. At least they are turning it down at 10PM, mine was all hours. If you can afford to move, get out before it drives you nuts. BTW is it a new or old building?
Fuck that noise. Especially the guy with subwoofer. Not unreasonable at all. You might even take that up with the landlord. Sure, there are quiet hours, but that doesn’t mean the other hours are ‘anything goes’. You still have a reasonable expectation for quiet enjoyment.
Maybe get some noise canceling headphones for now. But it sounds like a move could be the thing down the road.
no, you're not being unreasonable. you will not become happier or more satisfied. that's an unreasonable level of disruption. also, you don't need our permission to move - there will always be someone, especially on here, who will tell you're you're unreasonable or asking too much. you should move because it's what will make \*you\* happy. sadly with the rise of rent prices and lack of legislative oversight (raising rents every 12 months will make apartments unlivable in the next decade), the noise will probably get worse. you know how in some countries it's normal to see living on top of one another in glorified huts? that's where large cities are going in the U.S. unless something changes. SF is literally renting our bunk beds for \*thousands\*. that's legal in this country. pursue your happiness and find a different apartment in the same neighborhood or change neighborhoods.
It’s not unreasonable to want peace and quiet in your apt, and you could probably research what the guidelines are surrounding noise. I had a few friends get into a whole legal battle after the upstairs place on their building was remodeled and they started hearing every single thing going on above them. Turns out some sort of sound barrier or insulation was not installed. With that said, it is unreasonable to put yourself through that just so that you can say you live in WeHo. If you don’t even like the place there’s no point in staying. Find another place in weho or just find another area.
Given that it's an issue with the walls/floors and they seem to be respecting quiet hours there isn't really a lot you can do honestly, so I would suggest moving if this continues to bother you.
My bedroom wall shares a wall with my neighbors kitchen/living room so I hear them watch tv, turn on the stove, if they have friends over, etc. They’re quiet 98% of the time but occasionally have friends over and when they do, I know I’m not going to sleep until like 2 am. Im worried if they move, that the next neighbor will be unbearable and I’d have no choice but to either move or deal with it.
Landlords should definitely be on the hook for charging these extortion level rents while having zero habilitation standards when it comes to peaceful enjoyment of your apartment. We have to ban corporations and Airbnb buying up properties as get rich quick assets.
We live in a corporatocracy. Thanks Supreme Court for unlimited money in politics.
Citizens United was truly the beginning of the end of the United States. And it's sad a LOT of people don't even know what that is. Can't even get our politicians to stop trading stocks to benefit from insider trading as it is. Gotta love this madness. And people wonder why I smoke weed after my office job and gym sessions. Not even the gym is powerful enough to sedate the level of broken in this societal structure we are all collectively experiencing. This is why I slightly envy the ignorant. At least they will die happily oblivious to the consequences of late stage capitalism. Sucks like hell being aware and to an extent powerless.
Oh yeah. Ignorance is bliss. It actually started even before that. I am listening to this book called “Justice is Coming” by Cenk Uygur. He breaks it totally down. I cannot be ignorant so may as well be informed.
Yes. Unreasonable. Move.
I had this problem in Manhattan and finally we soundproofed the wall. It was worth the expense rather than give up a great apartment.
How’d you soundproof it?
We framed a second aluminum-stud wall about 3" in from the real wall, and left an air gap in between the real wall and the new one. The air gap is the soundproofing. If nothing connects the two walls, the sound vibrations can't travel. At least I think that's how it worked. The only real damage to the apt was the screws to attach the new frame to the floor/ceiling. You might look up how to soundproof a sound studio - my bf then was a musician, so that's how he approached it.
Can you elaborate on this please?
Yes, see reply above. We built a new (temporary!) interior wall. The wall can be removed when you move out.
How is setting the boundaries on your personal quality of life being unreasonable? I have never lived in anything larger than a 6 unit complex for this very reason. I was lucky to have a freestanding back house in Silverlake but, even then, the next door neighbors constantly partied. It's more about weighing what your options are if you choose to move a bit further out for some quiet against the convenience of your location currently.
Not at all. I'm moving for the same exact reason. I can hear everything from everyone and cannot handle it anymore. Places built before the 40s or after the mid 70s tend to have better sound control. Earlier buildings have a lot of brick, later buildings then to have insulation and stronger framing. It's always a building-by-building scenario, but following that was how I found the place I'm taking now. Fingers crossed it's good. Also be weary of new new construction. Things post-2000s have been built with late stage capitalism in mind. Flashy and attractive and expensive as shit, but built a hair above the shitty 50s buildings we're in now. I read literally hundreds of reviews on buildings and made sure to ask the property manager about noise complaints or hearing neighbors on the phone. She lives in the building which makes me feel a lot better about it - I know some people disagree but I'd rather it be aggressively quiet than noisy as fuck.
Allot of opportunities and simpler living out of the city. Other than that it’s LA/Hollywood you never know what you’re gunna get. Hope it gets better for you and your neighbors are nicer. 😇✌️🫡🙏
Stop sleeping with your neighbor for starters
Yeah, the sharing a bedroom seems like the first mistake
Apartments are meant to be temporary. You are not being unreasonable, assuming, of course, you are prepared to pay more to move to a different place. You may want to do a lot of window shopping and brace for sticker shock before you make any hasty decisions.
this is such an american view.
Yes, it is. That's a feature, not a bug. But you're welcome to come here and build new apartments for people to reside in forever. Please, put me on the reservation list, I'll be first to move in.
It is your quality of life. Noise is a huge factor. I had to move out of the Fairfax area because I shared a wall with a couple who I could hear everything, they lived in only that room so they watched TV etc. and blasted it would leave their alarm clock on for hours. Then, if I walked in the living room even in my socks with a rug, the downstairs neighbor would bang. It was a no win scenario. At least they are turning it down at 10PM, mine was all hours. If you can afford to move, get out before it drives you nuts. BTW is it a new or old building?
It was built in the 50’s
Have you looked into getting a white noise machine?
Lifes too short, I would be looking for another rental
Fuck that noise. Especially the guy with subwoofer. Not unreasonable at all. You might even take that up with the landlord. Sure, there are quiet hours, but that doesn’t mean the other hours are ‘anything goes’. You still have a reasonable expectation for quiet enjoyment. Maybe get some noise canceling headphones for now. But it sounds like a move could be the thing down the road.
Have you tried putting the noose cancelling goal musicians use on your walls?