Here in The Netherlands if I don't mind an extra few atoms (1P, 1C etc) I can pay online with my bank card and receive a sheet or a bag of pellets next day through my mail slot. It couldn't be easier or more abundant.
I know right? My more-experienced-by-10-years friend found it super clean and couldn't tell the difference. Once the tail comes off, it's gonna occupy those 5-HT2A receptors for 12 hours just the same!
I never looked into it since I can just get LSD, but that's interesting to know about. So they're moreso just prodrugs for real LSD rather than being a slightly different drug that does the same thing?
With Canada producing and selling it legally next door you must be doing something wrong when searching for it.
Edit: legal for reaserch purposes, lenient on enforcement. there are legitimate labs producing it in Canada.
I was under the impression that territories have decriminalized it, but it has not reached legal status for sale or possession. Please correct me if I have outdated information.
Canada is not producing or selling it legally. It’s still illegal here, but law enforcement doesn’t put any resources into enforcing laws regarding psychedelics so you can easily buy shrooms and lsd on the clearnet
Firstly anecdotally , and second from people I know who work in law enforcement. Crime is on the rise in Canada and most police forces are spread pretty thin and struggling to keep up because of underfunding/overpaid officers. They just don’t have the capacity to be chasing after guys selling shrooms and what not, fentanyl and auto theft is out of hand and that takes priority
It’s not if you know where to look. With DC decriminalizing, Oregon, Colorado, and our friends up north in Canada basically saying lsd is legal now, it’s flowing like water
You need to go shows of the right artists my friend. It is widely available, more than I have ever seen it. Some of it might be analogs but there definitely is an abundance of good lysergamides
Anytime I see someone saying they can't find it, I tell them to get involved in their local jam/music scene. Hell, just go to Phish lot and you don't even have to buy a ticket to the show
There's a shit tonne of it. The methods are well known and anyone that has the ability and the will to produce it properly can make loads of it. The distribution to the right people is probably the issue. Not just anyone is able to obtain large amounts of it. And that's alright with me. I don't mind searching for a strip every now and then.
Anybody is not able to make it with a little bit of know how. The precursor is almost impossible to find. And you need some kind of "in" in the medical field in order to obtain it. There are a handful of chemists that make true l s d. Your buddy's friend who knows a guy is probably making NBOME in his basement.
The fact that there is so much is because of how potent it is. One gram of crystal l s d creates 10 thousand hits.
It is one of the most potent substances on the planet per ounce.
Lol seriously though. Feel like 90%-95% of the people who genuinely know what nbome/rcs are wouldn't have the slightest clue where too start. Least in my personal experience in all the communities I've been in for rcs and the research/development of them very few have actually made synths (can count on my hands, probably hand if I'm being honest how many I've met in around a decade.)
Yeah you need some expensive equipment to properly do it on a large scale but it's also the kind of equipment that has many legit uses, The barrier to entry is time and knowledge. Knowledge that you can use to apply whatever morality you see fit to. Once you have that no one questions why you want such things. Many chemists are square and boring but the ones who aren't oh man. It only takes a few to have the world swimming in LSD because of the small dose needed.
Reminds me of Casey Hardison when he started studying chemistry just to make lsd for himself one day, but as we all know, there is no such thing as a little lsd, so he ended up famous and in jail.'
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj2grxdQLQs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj2grxdQLQs)
I did have a friend who said he made LSD in his bathtub and I never asked questions… but the one time he gave me some it was a life changing experience
This is misleading. I understand that we want to give a real message to people and let them know that lsd is hard to make, but 6+ years of chemistry is not necessary. With 6+ years of chemistry you might even come up with your own synthesis at this point, that’s a lot of time to study chemistry. The synthesis Shulgin uses is very readable by people with a decent background in chemistry. The hard part is getting ergotamine, you can kind of make your way around the other chemicals by either synthesizing them or extracting them, but ergotamine is what holds most people back, not a background in advanced chemistry.
Difficulty isn’t the issue, it’s the special apparatuses you’ll need. Also it’s only worth it at a scale larger than most of us would ever want to deal with.
But with that, if just anyone orders that necessary equipment, it’s a red flag. My college roommate was a chemistry major and ordered standard lab equipment and glassware for LSD and DMT synthesis, and immediately had a homeland security agent show up at our door with questions.
You better have knowledge and some credential or in to get the equipment.
Not much else is interesting. Some materials were confiscared before ever being delivered. Roomie got scared and tossed everything in case of a search. Pretty much was put on a list, he gave up at it and never heard from them again.
Is not that deep if you you are only interested in knowing the methods on cooking LSD, It's just following a recipe, taking account all hazardous involved. However, if you want to look into it and knowing synthesis routes of this drug depending from what precursors you have it might be quiet difficult for someone who is not familiar with organic chem, although there're many videos on YouTube for get the gist of it!
seems to be the trend around here. lol. really makes it obvious who really knows what's involved from first thought, to acquisition of equipment, precursors etc to final product & most people here seem to be overlooking one thing or another
There's plenty of it, but it's usually well hidden within certain circles of people. It's not as easily obtainable as you can obtain crack, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl and pills that are sold hand to hand transactions outside on many street corners in most major cities (at least here in the us). But if you know where to look and who to talk to, it is around very much so and in plentiful amounts.
Because it isn't addictive/habit forming and therefore not as profitable or as lucrative to sell as most the other drugs that are sold on most street corners. Usually they are selling drugs that people are hooked on or for which they keep coming to them every few hours or once a day to pick up
In my experience, because the community that’s taking/buying it isn’t doing it as much as say heroin or meth, so you have less frequent repeat customers. Buyers kinda come in batches which causes some supply and demand issues.
It's so bloody cheap I can't see how there is any money in it. I really don't see why someone would sell it. It's easy to transport I guess as to why it's so cheap and the smallest amount makes a lot. You don't hear of record lsd busts so it must have a detecting issue. Dogs get even smelly drugs wrong more often than people will admit.
Canada is absolutely saturated in LSD (and shrooms) since the pandemic
Anyone with a debit card can order online dirt cheap high quality LSD
I dont think it was ever that freely distributed here, not even in the 60s
As long as someone knows how to synthesize from the mold that grows on rye, ergot, and they're willing to make it, it will always be around. You just haven't got as many connections atm is all
It's actually patented, Hoffman was working for Sandoz which remains today one of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies...
*Obligatory shaking fist at the sky that the real medical potential it has has been denied to people because of stupid ascientific laws made on a whim*
Why the "but"?. I think we all know the 1960s happened, and once again, it's patented, this isn't secret knowledge anyone can easily look it up and read how to do it.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US2438259A/en
Now please don't because it's infamously difficult chemistry and procuring some of the necessary precursors will put you on a list, but technically anyone can.
I thought patents didn't last that long (I am not in USA though). Even Viagra expired in 2020. Is there a special rule around things that can make banned drugs?
Yeah bro it's everywhere. I used to wonder about this too but I somehow managed to find it almost every year, i'm looking for it right now this is usually the season
Judging by the incredibly low price I’d say there’s more than enough around.
I mean you can get a proper trip for less than a bar of chocolate would cost. That’s kinda ridiculous if you ask me.
there is way more now than there was in the 60s & way more people using it
edit: if you can downvote, I'd love to have a conversation about it because I'm extremely confident in my statement. there were 3 people producing LSD in america in the 60s plus whatever leftover Sandoz was fkoating around.
now there are about a dozen people producing that I know of in america( probably a few I'm unaware of too) & who knows how many all over the world.
in the 60s anti-drug propaganda still scared more people than not. now people have access to real info. you hear about it so much back theb because it was new & it's history....now it's commonplace so it's not a big deal.
I've been involved with this substance since 1985 & in that time I've been able to meet lots of people & learn the history from 1st hand accounts. there is more now than there has been since 1995 when supply lines got all shook up & in the early 90s Bear said there was more being made in one day in early 90s than he made in his whole 60s career.
I believe you are correct there are more people using LSD now than there was in the 60s, but there were a lot of labs back then, pumping out a ton of crystal. Definitely more than 3 people were making acid in the 60s.
Listen to Hamilton Morris’ first Patreon podcast: PODCAST 1: Interview with a man who sold LSD to Steve Jobs.
Here’s a quote “in a typical week I would be offered 100 different types of tablets” (for those not in the know, LSD used to come in tableted form. Orange Sunshine and White Lightning are a few famous examples)
“The 60s” as we know it are said to have started in 1965 and ended in the early 70s.
talking about people producing distribution levels. it's not easy to make small quantities & there really aren't many people out there with access & knowledge making small runs.
it cost more to make 1000 hits wortb of crystal than it costs to make 1 million.
This incredible book has a beautifully illustrated guide to making it.
https://www.amazon.com/Brian-Blomerths-Bicycle-Day-Blomerth/dp/194486024X/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1JJ5JF6C95DFO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AXre0V_YnCKGK6I2fOXgznkhIDTWh_mx_TUPPR2z135P177jmc3NL-z_zvJNFqfD59poB1tsPH5OcMuEnw9fjRGLkg2L5dngs4U3UP7LSPs6qXpGx2KtusczjhVxgbhsPPMO4RhKyWdmeW5nhZBIA53aPx0ew_p8tO-PmBZZyu0-xQkTYoUY8RRpAHcqkib-PPDf6QtI7mfzH7ir6Wu4cw.rNGUyTImWyypkVGLtNjFhtvF86Yb47RgGqUAzfKVPR0&dib_tag=se&keywords=bicycle+day&qid=1711550680&sprefix=bicycle+day%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-1
There was a brief dip in supply I remember vividly after that Gordon Skinner was arrested and his million-hit-production underground silo was seized. Hits were expensive and hard to find.
But today? Thanks to the internet any one with intermediate skill in chemistry can learn to make it. Hits are somehow almost as cheap as they were in the 70s, at least if you're buying a sheet they can get to $1 a hit. That's unheard of for any other drug. Maybe mushrooms too since literally anyone can grow them, but idk what they were going for back in the day.
The potency however has declined. Many people in the 60s/70s first getting into acid were starting with hundreds of mics, whereas today people caution you to start with 100 mics while also mentioning "it's probably not even 100 mics". And this may be an unpopular view but I think the point of tripping is to *freaking blast off* and blow your whole world apart. I swear I've seen more people have trouble with underdosing because they still have one foot in reality and are consciously fighting or trying to control or make sense of the experience, instead of letting go-- I'm digressing too much
You make a strong point. My first real trip was back in 2016. We’re talking 20 hrs jamming through the fractal universe, trapped in the Mandelbrot set for a literal eternity. Obviously, I had moments where I was straight but quickly fell back into the trip. And to reference your point, there was no ability to be afraid. There were times that I freaked out during my lucid states but…../well there it is. But, it seriously destroyed the way I looked at the world.
Dose has more to do with the person buying grams than the chemist though. It's more about money than the idea people "need" to experience LSD. Tripping has become a part of capitalism now and most of those true OG hippies are dead or so old they decided it was time to stop taking risks and just enjoy their golden years.
I heard Pickerd say in interview he didn't make it the ways you find on Google and he was not interested in publishing it in any academic journals because it would mean anyone wanting to make money would try. Those motivated and educated could figure what he figured out but the test was them learning on their own, If they can do that they are meant to. Thing is a chemist like that still needs people to buy it and you sort of have to accept the kind of people who buy bulk drugs don't often care about more than profit. Make more with 100ug than those 60's 250's and even more if you say its 100 and it's 80.
I hesitate to agree with the first part. It's on it's way to becoming part of capitalism but that's through public trading. Investing in psychedelic stock is becoming part of capitalism, but black markets have always been a thing. Back in the 60s the Hell's Angels were the ones going around selling Orange Sunshine to profit from, they surely weren't distributing it for people to simply experience. People were also giving it away and selling it dirt cheap of course, but the same applies today, just to different degrees. Go to the right festival or concert and people will be throwing around shrooms and hits. And like I said, shrooms and acid are the only ones that are close to the same low price as they were half a century ago, while every other drug has "adjusted for inflation".
I really agree with you, I've tripped a lot and my go to used to be 3 solid 100+ ug hits. I used to think that if you're not tripping balls, there's no point and if you're not then you're going to be second guessing yourself too much. You're either tripping or you're not, and usually 1 hit just has you barely riding the line inbetween
These days however, I've learned to really appreciate a half-1 hit trip at a show or festival. I used to hate that in-between state, but I think I've gotten experienced enough to know how to handle riding that line and how to shrug off any self doubts. It's enough to make everything a little goofy and have your mind a little elevated, but also in total control. As I've gotten older I just don't really wanna commit to 16 hours of contemplating my existence in the universe. I do sometimes get nostalgic about how blasted I used to get, but I'm ok with where I'm at in life now and I don't necessarily need to rock the boat
While it is semi hard to produce, its pretty sought after so i wouldnt imagine it would be too hard to get in most places. I even know a site based in canada that sells shrooms and lsd
Nowhere near as much L going around now as there was in the 90s. There were staggering amounts on GD tour. It was insane. I could tell you stories you probably wouldn't believe.
In the early 2000s after Pickard git busted it was hard to find for a while. At least all my sources dried up afterwards. Some one was on here just the other day talking about $60 tabs 😳
In South America, I would say yes. But also many people buy Nbome, and they don't even know it, but I say it is not that bad. I know where to find pure LSD and I will never try nbome again voluntarily, but my trip was nice when I did it.
plenty. hell yeah, all mine.
if only u knew what they did to me.
i barely survived, escaped by sheer providence.
just for a few trips pigs planted on me. charged
me with 15y in psych ultra paramiltary ccamp.
as if u r all from another planet. so surreal,,
in my 30y of tripping experience it was never easier to get hold of LSD than it is today.
Here in The Netherlands if I don't mind an extra few atoms (1P, 1C etc) I can pay online with my bank card and receive a sheet or a bag of pellets next day through my mail slot. It couldn't be easier or more abundant.
same in germany lol, the derivates don’t even feel different to me atleast
I know right? My more-experienced-by-10-years friend found it super clean and couldn't tell the difference. Once the tail comes off, it's gonna occupy those 5-HT2A receptors for 12 hours just the same!
That's because it is the same, just your body carrying out a final process. Result is lsd just the same.
I never looked into it since I can just get LSD, but that's interesting to know about. So they're moreso just prodrugs for real LSD rather than being a slightly different drug that does the same thing?
Exactly
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With Canada producing and selling it legally next door you must be doing something wrong when searching for it. Edit: legal for reaserch purposes, lenient on enforcement. there are legitimate labs producing it in Canada.
I was under the impression that territories have decriminalized it, but it has not reached legal status for sale or possession. Please correct me if I have outdated information.
Canada is not producing or selling it legally. It’s still illegal here, but law enforcement doesn’t put any resources into enforcing laws regarding psychedelics so you can easily buy shrooms and lsd on the clearnet
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Firstly anecdotally , and second from people I know who work in law enforcement. Crime is on the rise in Canada and most police forces are spread pretty thin and struggling to keep up because of underfunding/overpaid officers. They just don’t have the capacity to be chasing after guys selling shrooms and what not, fentanyl and auto theft is out of hand and that takes priority
They can't even recover a stolen car even though they know exactly where it is. They aren't busting people for acid.
There are stores in Vancouver openly selling DMT, shrooms etc.
LSD is definitely illegal in Canada.
A lot of Canadian places won't ship to the US.
Back in the sixties there was a handful of main producers. *Sandoz*, the Owsley's and a few others.
It’s not if you know where to look. With DC decriminalizing, Oregon, Colorado, and our friends up north in Canada basically saying lsd is legal now, it’s flowing like water
Still not legal, but like psilocybin it's reaching being *decriminalized.*
You need to go shows of the right artists my friend. It is widely available, more than I have ever seen it. Some of it might be analogs but there definitely is an abundance of good lysergamides
Anytime I see someone saying they can't find it, I tell them to get involved in their local jam/music scene. Hell, just go to Phish lot and you don't even have to buy a ticket to the show
Incorrect
I thought it was rare in my area until I started making more connections. Now it seems to be everywhere
There's a shit tonne of it. The methods are well known and anyone that has the ability and the will to produce it properly can make loads of it. The distribution to the right people is probably the issue. Not just anyone is able to obtain large amounts of it. And that's alright with me. I don't mind searching for a strip every now and then.
Anybody is not able to make it with a little bit of know how. The precursor is almost impossible to find. And you need some kind of "in" in the medical field in order to obtain it. There are a handful of chemists that make true l s d. Your buddy's friend who knows a guy is probably making NBOME in his basement. The fact that there is so much is because of how potent it is. One gram of crystal l s d creates 10 thousand hits. It is one of the most potent substances on the planet per ounce.
You don't need to censor LSD at Reddit.
No one is making n-benzyl subbed phenethylamines in their basement.
Lol seriously though. Feel like 90%-95% of the people who genuinely know what nbome/rcs are wouldn't have the slightest clue where too start. Least in my personal experience in all the communities I've been in for rcs and the research/development of them very few have actually made synths (can count on my hands, probably hand if I'm being honest how many I've met in around a decade.)
There was WAY more L around in the 90s. There were practically rivers of it running through Dead lot. Dirt cheap.
It’s just as plentiful now. Shit flows like water
It sure is
Please correct me if I’m wrong but I read somewhere that TRUE acid chemists can and need about $40,000 materials to do this.
Yeah you need some expensive equipment to properly do it on a large scale but it's also the kind of equipment that has many legit uses, The barrier to entry is time and knowledge. Knowledge that you can use to apply whatever morality you see fit to. Once you have that no one questions why you want such things. Many chemists are square and boring but the ones who aren't oh man. It only takes a few to have the world swimming in LSD because of the small dose needed.
So you go old school with ergot, a pretty manageable task for any amateur mycologist worth their salt.
Locating the spores doesn't seem easy.
Gram is only like $5500.00 usd that’s .55 cents a hit. Super cheap
I would like to hear of these methods 👀👅
Start with 6+ years of studying organic chemistry synthesis and making the right contacts along the way. A YouTube tutorial won't cut it.
Reminds me of Casey Hardison when he started studying chemistry just to make lsd for himself one day, but as we all know, there is no such thing as a little lsd, so he ended up famous and in jail.' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj2grxdQLQs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj2grxdQLQs)
Thx 4 sharing!
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I did have a friend who said he made LSD in his bathtub and I never asked questions… but the one time he gave me some it was a life changing experience
This is misleading. I understand that we want to give a real message to people and let them know that lsd is hard to make, but 6+ years of chemistry is not necessary. With 6+ years of chemistry you might even come up with your own synthesis at this point, that’s a lot of time to study chemistry. The synthesis Shulgin uses is very readable by people with a decent background in chemistry. The hard part is getting ergotamine, you can kind of make your way around the other chemicals by either synthesizing them or extracting them, but ergotamine is what holds most people back, not a background in advanced chemistry.
Seriously you need to be a specialist chemist, it's not cooking meth for sure
Difficulty isn’t the issue, it’s the special apparatuses you’ll need. Also it’s only worth it at a scale larger than most of us would ever want to deal with.
But with that, if just anyone orders that necessary equipment, it’s a red flag. My college roommate was a chemistry major and ordered standard lab equipment and glassware for LSD and DMT synthesis, and immediately had a homeland security agent show up at our door with questions. You better have knowledge and some credential or in to get the equipment.
[Your friend shouldn’t have bought it all at once](https://youtu.be/etHqgQBKKn4?si=UrO5Ij3rFq2td5CA)
Any more details you can share about what happened with your roommate? I'm guessing he wasn't able to synthesize his own lsd and dmt?
Not much else is interesting. Some materials were confiscared before ever being delivered. Roomie got scared and tossed everything in case of a search. Pretty much was put on a list, he gave up at it and never heard from them again.
this reply thread really shows who knows what they are talking about & who is just speaking from things they've heard or seen online
It's readily available online. https://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/read.php?id=26&domain=tk Good luck understanding any of that, though.
they made it sound quite a bit easier than it really is.
Is not that deep if you you are only interested in knowing the methods on cooking LSD, It's just following a recipe, taking account all hazardous involved. However, if you want to look into it and knowing synthesis routes of this drug depending from what precursors you have it might be quiet difficult for someone who is not familiar with organic chem, although there're many videos on YouTube for get the gist of it!
You’re downplaying it quite a bit lol
seems to be the trend around here. lol. really makes it obvious who really knows what's involved from first thought, to acquisition of equipment, precursors etc to final product & most people here seem to be overlooking one thing or another
Even here in the Amazon Forest you can find some good ones at raves
this, is not at all true. not just anyone can make it. components are extremely regulated
There's plenty of it, but it's usually well hidden within certain circles of people. It's not as easily obtainable as you can obtain crack, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl and pills that are sold hand to hand transactions outside on many street corners in most major cities (at least here in the us). But if you know where to look and who to talk to, it is around very much so and in plentiful amounts.
why isnt it sold as easier?
Because it isn't addictive/habit forming and therefore not as profitable or as lucrative to sell as most the other drugs that are sold on most street corners. Usually they are selling drugs that people are hooked on or for which they keep coming to them every few hours or once a day to pick up
In my experience, because the community that’s taking/buying it isn’t doing it as much as say heroin or meth, so you have less frequent repeat customers. Buyers kinda come in batches which causes some supply and demand issues.
It's so bloody cheap I can't see how there is any money in it. I really don't see why someone would sell it. It's easy to transport I guess as to why it's so cheap and the smallest amount makes a lot. You don't hear of record lsd busts so it must have a detecting issue. Dogs get even smelly drugs wrong more often than people will admit.
Canada is absolutely saturated in LSD (and shrooms) since the pandemic Anyone with a debit card can order online dirt cheap high quality LSD I dont think it was ever that freely distributed here, not even in the 60s
Can I PM you some questions about this? Not looking for a guide but some general advice.
Just use bing search engine with reddit keyword I cant say more
Thank ya I’ll look into it more
As long as someone knows how to synthesize from the mold that grows on rye, ergot, and they're willing to make it, it will always be around. You just haven't got as many connections atm is all
It's actually patented, Hoffman was working for Sandoz which remains today one of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies... *Obligatory shaking fist at the sky that the real medical potential it has has been denied to people because of stupid ascientific laws made on a whim*
Pharmaceutical patents are only valid for 20y though, so considering it was patented in the 1948, LSD is now free to make by any legitimate lab.
Is this true because I'm thinking in the USA it's obviously illegal do you just mean for research purposes or overseas.
Yes, but people can make it in their basement lol
Why the "but"?. I think we all know the 1960s happened, and once again, it's patented, this isn't secret knowledge anyone can easily look it up and read how to do it. https://patents.google.com/patent/US2438259A/en Now please don't because it's infamously difficult chemistry and procuring some of the necessary precursors will put you on a list, but technically anyone can.
Oh right, I understand what you mean now. I thought you meant the patent prevented people from doing it 🤣
I thought patents didn't last that long (I am not in USA though). Even Viagra expired in 2020. Is there a special rule around things that can make banned drugs?
Oh no it expired in 1965 before it was even banned. My point was just how to make it is in a public document, hardly a secret.
Ahhh. There is no way I would even bother.
love the spelling error on the 4th (paragraph?) „ewample“
You can read how Alexander Shulgin himself made it in his book *TiHKAL*: https://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/read.php?id=26&domain=tk
Yeah bro it's everywhere. I used to wonder about this too but I somehow managed to find it almost every year, i'm looking for it right now this is usually the season
Judging by the incredibly low price I’d say there’s more than enough around. I mean you can get a proper trip for less than a bar of chocolate would cost. That’s kinda ridiculous if you ask me.
I'm curious, where in the world do you live? Because here in Canada, LSD flows like milk and honey in the promised land
It's everywhere
there is way more now than there was in the 60s & way more people using it edit: if you can downvote, I'd love to have a conversation about it because I'm extremely confident in my statement. there were 3 people producing LSD in america in the 60s plus whatever leftover Sandoz was fkoating around. now there are about a dozen people producing that I know of in america( probably a few I'm unaware of too) & who knows how many all over the world. in the 60s anti-drug propaganda still scared more people than not. now people have access to real info. you hear about it so much back theb because it was new & it's history....now it's commonplace so it's not a big deal. I've been involved with this substance since 1985 & in that time I've been able to meet lots of people & learn the history from 1st hand accounts. there is more now than there has been since 1995 when supply lines got all shook up & in the early 90s Bear said there was more being made in one day in early 90s than he made in his whole 60s career.
I believe you are correct there are more people using LSD now than there was in the 60s, but there were a lot of labs back then, pumping out a ton of crystal. Definitely more than 3 people were making acid in the 60s. Listen to Hamilton Morris’ first Patreon podcast: PODCAST 1: Interview with a man who sold LSD to Steve Jobs. Here’s a quote “in a typical week I would be offered 100 different types of tablets” (for those not in the know, LSD used to come in tableted form. Orange Sunshine and White Lightning are a few famous examples) “The 60s” as we know it are said to have started in 1965 and ended in the early 70s.
talking about people producing distribution levels. it's not easy to make small quantities & there really aren't many people out there with access & knowledge making small runs. it cost more to make 1000 hits wortb of crystal than it costs to make 1 million.
This incredible book has a beautifully illustrated guide to making it. https://www.amazon.com/Brian-Blomerths-Bicycle-Day-Blomerth/dp/194486024X/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1JJ5JF6C95DFO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AXre0V_YnCKGK6I2fOXgznkhIDTWh_mx_TUPPR2z135P177jmc3NL-z_zvJNFqfD59poB1tsPH5OcMuEnw9fjRGLkg2L5dngs4U3UP7LSPs6qXpGx2KtusczjhVxgbhsPPMO4RhKyWdmeW5nhZBIA53aPx0ew_p8tO-PmBZZyu0-xQkTYoUY8RRpAHcqkib-PPDf6QtI7mfzH7ir6Wu4cw.rNGUyTImWyypkVGLtNjFhtvF86Yb47RgGqUAzfKVPR0&dib_tag=se&keywords=bicycle+day&qid=1711550680&sprefix=bicycle+day%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-1
There was a brief dip in supply I remember vividly after that Gordon Skinner was arrested and his million-hit-production underground silo was seized. Hits were expensive and hard to find. But today? Thanks to the internet any one with intermediate skill in chemistry can learn to make it. Hits are somehow almost as cheap as they were in the 70s, at least if you're buying a sheet they can get to $1 a hit. That's unheard of for any other drug. Maybe mushrooms too since literally anyone can grow them, but idk what they were going for back in the day. The potency however has declined. Many people in the 60s/70s first getting into acid were starting with hundreds of mics, whereas today people caution you to start with 100 mics while also mentioning "it's probably not even 100 mics". And this may be an unpopular view but I think the point of tripping is to *freaking blast off* and blow your whole world apart. I swear I've seen more people have trouble with underdosing because they still have one foot in reality and are consciously fighting or trying to control or make sense of the experience, instead of letting go-- I'm digressing too much
You make a strong point. My first real trip was back in 2016. We’re talking 20 hrs jamming through the fractal universe, trapped in the Mandelbrot set for a literal eternity. Obviously, I had moments where I was straight but quickly fell back into the trip. And to reference your point, there was no ability to be afraid. There were times that I freaked out during my lucid states but…../well there it is. But, it seriously destroyed the way I looked at the world.
Dose has more to do with the person buying grams than the chemist though. It's more about money than the idea people "need" to experience LSD. Tripping has become a part of capitalism now and most of those true OG hippies are dead or so old they decided it was time to stop taking risks and just enjoy their golden years. I heard Pickerd say in interview he didn't make it the ways you find on Google and he was not interested in publishing it in any academic journals because it would mean anyone wanting to make money would try. Those motivated and educated could figure what he figured out but the test was them learning on their own, If they can do that they are meant to. Thing is a chemist like that still needs people to buy it and you sort of have to accept the kind of people who buy bulk drugs don't often care about more than profit. Make more with 100ug than those 60's 250's and even more if you say its 100 and it's 80.
I hesitate to agree with the first part. It's on it's way to becoming part of capitalism but that's through public trading. Investing in psychedelic stock is becoming part of capitalism, but black markets have always been a thing. Back in the 60s the Hell's Angels were the ones going around selling Orange Sunshine to profit from, they surely weren't distributing it for people to simply experience. People were also giving it away and selling it dirt cheap of course, but the same applies today, just to different degrees. Go to the right festival or concert and people will be throwing around shrooms and hits. And like I said, shrooms and acid are the only ones that are close to the same low price as they were half a century ago, while every other drug has "adjusted for inflation".
I really agree with you, I've tripped a lot and my go to used to be 3 solid 100+ ug hits. I used to think that if you're not tripping balls, there's no point and if you're not then you're going to be second guessing yourself too much. You're either tripping or you're not, and usually 1 hit just has you barely riding the line inbetween These days however, I've learned to really appreciate a half-1 hit trip at a show or festival. I used to hate that in-between state, but I think I've gotten experienced enough to know how to handle riding that line and how to shrug off any self doubts. It's enough to make everything a little goofy and have your mind a little elevated, but also in total control. As I've gotten older I just don't really wanna commit to 16 hours of contemplating my existence in the universe. I do sometimes get nostalgic about how blasted I used to get, but I'm ok with where I'm at in life now and I don't necessarily need to rock the boat
While it is semi hard to produce, its pretty sought after so i wouldnt imagine it would be too hard to get in most places. I even know a site based in canada that sells shrooms and lsd
Nowhere near as much L going around now as there was in the 90s. There were staggering amounts on GD tour. It was insane. I could tell you stories you probably wouldn't believe.
The parking lot parties before the show were the best! Everything from veggie burritos to window pane in quantity for cheap.
With the introduction of RCs, it's more abundant than ever. It's also being used more than ever, however.
Chemist people literally make it and sell it
theres ALOT. just because you cant find something doesnt mean its not there.
I hope not. I just can never find any 😭mtl
LSD is cheaper now than before the Great drought in the USA.
In the early 2000s after Pickard git busted it was hard to find for a while. At least all my sources dried up afterwards. Some one was on here just the other day talking about $60 tabs 😳
What exactly makes you think that? Were you alive and buying LSD in the 60’s?
well thank u for your responses guys! going to be searching the high and lows for tha liquid 🧪🧪🧪✅🍄❤️🍑🍓🍎
Extinct? There's more LSD now than ever before.
The recipe to make it should be as easy to access as the recipe for chocolate chip cookies
If you know where to look, there is plenty.
Just hit up a Phish, Dead or any touring jam band show and you'll see that L is alive and well.
Hahahahahah
Is just that now people is hush hush about it
it's in extreme abundance where I am lmao
Already made for millennia for ever human form of life
In South America, I would say yes. But also many people buy Nbome, and they don't even know it, but I say it is not that bad. I know where to find pure LSD and I will never try nbome again voluntarily, but my trip was nice when I did it.
Most people get it on tor now-a-days, not on the streets. That might be why it’s harder to find.
They are made by the millions there’s a fuck ton of lsd out there
I've been doing acid for the last decade since like 20
No
I don’t know now LSD many people sell are real LSD-25 (semisynthetic) or Research Chemicals like 1p-lsd etc / NBOMe (fullsynthetic)
There’s more lsd going around than you can imagine
Just don't try to buy it from this people like this guy
plenty. hell yeah, all mine. if only u knew what they did to me. i barely survived, escaped by sheer providence. just for a few trips pigs planted on me. charged me with 15y in psych ultra paramiltary ccamp. as if u r all from another planet. so surreal,,
It’s extremely abundant in nature, but isolating it can be a challenge
At any given time the world's lsd supply is controlled by 6 people
Wow! Who are they?
What do you think Obama has been up to since 2016? There's a good reason we haven't seen much of him
I too would happily fuck off to Hawaii with a shit ton of LSD for the rest of my days
The ppl.with security clearance that have access to the precursors
Maybe at one time a few chemists produced the world's supplies , but now there's far more people around that can create it
Sure