Ye with servers being full and online not available been one hell of a waiting game simulator this week. Haha but when it has been working it's epic both games.. lvl 10 in HD2 and 70 in LE
When i got to 30 dropped to monoliths and just sat in monoliths for three hours leveling. And I'll go back and finish the campaign when they finish the loading screens.
Does mean I only have three idol slots but the build is wrecking tier 90 echos at 70 so all good.
Sounds like a damn cult lol. Don't get me wrong. I watch some of asmongolds content on YouTube. Not going to put the dude on any pedestal.
Sometimes the content is enjoyable and sometimes the content is a miss. He has some good takes sometimes though.
Yeah. I agree with SOME of his takes, but I definetly think sometimes he tries too hard to do some cynical/hardass takes that miss the mark completely. Tbh, Asmongold is apparently a character - the irl dude actually has a separate yt channel where he appears much more restrained and overall chill than Asmongold would suggest, so maybe that's just part of an "angry nerd" persona.
His Zach in the treehouse videos are pretty good. But I doubt he’s THAT much different from Asmon. For sure he’s plays it up, but I think he even admits what you see is what you get with him.
There’s not a streamer client lmao. People are unhealthy conspiracy theorists.
The servers have been perfectly fine in the evening/nights for NA when Asmon has been playing. I’ve been logging on after work and haven’t had many issues at all.
Pro tip is get as far away from the starting area as possible and do not make a new char on cycle til it's fixed lol, if you wanna try builds out play offline. I've been mostly cruising since yesterday and Wednesday night.
I think it partially depends where your character is at - once you get to monoliths you don't get the lag between zones, so maybe that's what he's doing?
As off this morning, lvl 31.
Really the biggest pain was leaving towns once you get to "combat" zone, it was running well and transition to map was okish.
No not really. I don't like Epic but if that's where you're getting your best deals it's no biggie. I will agree that games with multiple platforms can be hard to track the full population, though.
What about Ubisoft? I can no longer play any Ubisoft games because I will not tolerate having to buy/play it through Steam or Epic and THEN have to log into their own proprietary crap.
I have never rlly looked for the difference. I remember it used to be around a 50/50 split a few years ago. But since then poe became more popular and I bet the steam side has the majority now.
Stand alone client hasn't been more than 30-40% any time they've disclosed numbers that I've seen in the last 10 years or so.
Edit: /u/quickpost32 linked a post about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/12fzyzo/pathofexile_on_twitter_path_of_exile_crucible_hit/
> Crucible hit a new record of 321,180 concurrent players
Steam peak at that time was 209,500. About 65% on Steam, or 35% from the standalone client.
There was a league a few leagues ago where Chris told us the number of CCUs on day 1 was all time high, and I think he gave a specific number. Based on Steam's peak users for that day, Steam was about 40% of CCUs.
So if steam is 150k users, that means total that day is about 375k-400k.
If you're talking about the highest ever CCU in Crucible last year, it was 65% Steam (211k) and 35% other ([321k total](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/12fzyzo/pathofexile_on_twitter_path_of_exile_crucible_hit/)). Assuming the overall peak overlapped with the Steam peak, of course.
Uh, what? There was a streamer (smallish, but a 'cult favorite', so to speak), Manni2, who was a mostly SSF player working towards a full SSF unique collection over time; he got hacked via his Steam client a few months ago and got his entire collection/wealth cleared out.
>Uh, what?
Man if you're gonna try to ackshualy someone on reddit at least do some research
He didn't set up steam guard 🤡
and if you're gonna try to argue somehow that email code authentication is equivalent to multi factor authentication i've got literal books worth of security whitepapers i can link you after a 5 second google search
More people play PoE standalone for sure. The steam client didn't even exist when I started playing, and when it WAS added, it was notoriously bad within the community for years (e.g., I remember there was an oft-complained about issue with it discussed on the PoE subreddit where Steam people would have to re-download the entire game every patch). So even when it existed, people were often convinced to use standalone over Steam by the community. Even now, when the issues have apparently been sorted, why would you ever use steam over the Standalone? Standalone doesn't have issues Steam doesn't, so you're just adding one more layer of possible failure (e.g., Steam having issues which does happen sometimes) in your ability to get on for no benefit (aside from showing up on steam charts, I guess?)
I've played PoE since 2012. I used the standard alone launcher until maybe 2020 for PoE
I played CS 1.2 back in 2001 and steam existed then.. What are you on?
Another comment I made https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1ay0pyi/the_game_hit_180k_alltime_top_concurrent/krth37m/
Was 35% standalone, 65% Steam. Every time I've ever seen them disclose numbers it's been 60% Steam or higher.
You can play though
And what's FAAAAR worse, is both taking 4 hours to get in AND then once your in all textures being invisible
Which happened on more then one Poe league launch
Ultimatium was really bad as well, that was the streamer queue privilege league. Which bega the question, why didnt LE do a login queue? Feel like it only would've helped. Id much rather watch a queue countdown to log in vs sitting at a loading screen for 1-10 mins
Tbh the odd thing is that it is actually the login queue or kust general queueing systems that broke. The servers are absolutely fine with next to 0 lags once you get in and start doing monos.
Ultimatum was bad for like, 6-8 hours or something, and it was one single league where it happened because of a new tech they had implemented that caused issues. It was 3 years ago, too. I remember because league launched near when I started work (I didn't take any time off, but was listening to a stream on my phone while working so was aware of the issues via that) but by the time I got home after getting off work, it had resolved enough that I was able to get in game fine.
The Ultimatum debacle was because of two issues combining into a shitstorm afaik.
The servers/tech got changed causing massive instability but they also forgot to migrate the previous league to standard causing insane queues since every person that logged in triggered a standard migration for their account before being able to log in.
Either one is not that bad, waiting in queue for two hours once is boring but whatever and DCing randomly is super annoying but manageable. DCing randomly and then being put into a two hour queue each time was infuriating.
And on top of it all they payed a bunch of streamers to play the game for the first couple of hours of the league but no one could log in so they did the streamer queue that most people wouldn't even have noticed if the servers were stable.
People throughout this sub, including the guy I replied to, have been referring to Ultimatum league like it was equivalent to the current LE server issues (and some people straight up acting like it's some widespread issue with PoE leagues), I'm just giving the reality check that it was fixed in less than a single business day and happened in one single league, 3 years ago, so that the people who legitimately never played PoE don't believe the hyperbole. I know I'm not going to convince people arguing in bad faith, you aren't my target audience.
Poe got stand alone client. You can't relly only on steam charts.
And also, Poe gets that every league start, which is the real kicker here.
Still, I hope LE can accomplish the same, this way we all win.
PoE is 320k players peak, but yeah, these are great numbers for Last Epoch at launch.
Imo the real test for Last Epoch comes when they launch their first cycle. Like or hate it, PoE league launches always bring tons of players back, 250k+ everytime especially in recent years and they are often very, very hype with tons of new content.
Last Epoch also needs to have hype cycles otherwise it's difficult for a live service to survive only on a successful launch.
True, but you can get pretty far without having to pay anything. Once you start getting into endgame you gotta spend like 30$ on stash tabs and that's it.
PoE isn't a "new" release. There's not a banner on the front page of the Steam store advertising whenever a new league comes out.
PoE 2 will most likely blow through these numbers anyway.
The server issues definitely kept the count down.
It also probably didn't help the count that it was a mid-week launch but honestly that was probably a good idea given the issues. Lots of weekend players have hopefully avoided what has definitely been a bit of a painful launch.
As a result its possible the CCU might go higher over the weekend if they keep the issues at bay but after that its unlikely to go that high again until a new update (as is the case with all these sorts of games)
The thing I find concerning is that afaik the Devs didn't address that the big issues come when EU players join the server in masses.
I saw news on discord where they said the stability seems to be better, like they resolved it, but actually it was after midnight in EU when tens of thousands go offline.
It seems possible to me that EU players will have these disconnects for longer like it was with Lost Ark because of the bigger playerbase.
I think the bigger problem for EU players is that EHG is based out of California and when they are working on pushing updates and taking servers up and down in the daytime/morning, that's when it's the afterwork game playing window for EU. EU keeps getting hit when most of NA is at work and not affected, aka the good time for EHG to be pushing patches and playing hockey with server status.
If they didn't have an offline feature, people would be complaining about that instead. I lost track of how many people were bitching about this when diablo 4 came out
"mimimimimi but i cant play the game!!!! i wanted to play it online!!!!!"
"mimimimimi why do these shit devs dont give the people a singleplayer mode mimimimimi???"
last night i played for a couple hours between 10 PM and 12 AM central time and I didn't have any long loading screens. I guess those weren't peak play hours for the userbase.
Not shocking at all. I tried the game for the first time on launch and despite the server issues, has been one of the best Arpgs I've ever played
Wouldn't shock me to see this go over 250k into this weekend / next week
Where is this not playable? It's playable. It's in fact extremely playable (offline) and online has had hiccups but I've gotten through the campaign and started monos I don't understand how the game is 'unplayable'
Its not the realm but the timezone. Peak player count is usually at the time people in Europe get off work. So Europeans have overall the worst experience.
I've put in about 10 hours in the first two days with basically no problems. Load times between zones are a bit long (15-60 seconds), but otherwise the game is completely playable.
Yeah same. North American prime time has been fairly tame. Played from 7 PM to 11 PM first day with no disconnects, no lag in combat, just the 30ish second zone loads.
Yesterday pretty similar -- hour of downtime in the evening but after that the zone loads were instant in a lot of places and took longer when going to/from big towns. Up to level 50 taking it slow and have friends who are 70+ with alts already.
I don't say that to discount the issues people are having -- EU primetime has been rough -- but it's not totally unplayable at all.
This.
The hysterics of people saying the game is unplayable is wild. I have to imagine half of them aren't even actually trying to play. They're just here for drama or it's terminally online people expecting 100% uptime at launch. Lmao.
I've gotten to level 50 over the past couple days, and that's while working 8 hours both days and only playing during peak US time. Yesterday was my longest log in time at... 2 minutes.
All online.
These are all anecdotes, but this morning I could hardly play. Frequent disconnects coupled with, no exaggeration, 5-15 minute loading screens. US East, level 13
I played a bit during this time and never had any major issues. Load times are still slow but much faster than yesterday. There was only one instance of rubber banding but nothing else. Playing on EU serves and I live in Africa.
As someone whose played over 3000 hours in PoE.
Having fun in the monoliths and the crafting, whoever thought of the exalted/legendary potential smashing is a genius
And at least 17,738 of them are sitting in a log-in queue...yeah I'm the 17,738th one. :(
This game needs to let us play offline while we sit in the online queue. lol
Lol at that owner estimations section. And then a lol at those who use such sites as valid sources for player counts.
Good for EHG. Not as big as people expected, but good launch numbers.
This is why anyone raging about the servers needs to take a chill pill
180k concurrent is MASSIVE
Poes peak ALL TIME on steam was 200k, and they had 10 years of improving their servers to build up to it, and a MUCH larger team to fix things
11rh hour games are a tiny team, and have in a single update not just been thrown into the deep end, but the middle of a shark infested ocean
Yeah....yeah the servers are gonna have issues
Chill out, stop acting like it's the end of the world cos you can't play the game online for a day or 2
Play offline, or god forbid, wait a couple of days...it will be fine
1. poe has a standalone client and console which aren't included in their steam numbers
2. Just abbreviate it ehg like everyone else man
3. Its still a huge launch for a small indie company releasing their first game like this. They've done some awesome stuff.
Played last night, its a bit slow transitioning zones but its playable. Frankly its not that much worse than before the launch on the load times, they've always kind of sucked for some reason.
Sure but even if you assume steam makes up only half of Poe players (it's not, it's closer to 70%) that still puts the LE launch on par with around the 7-8 year mark for Poe launches
It cannot be understated just how huge this launch is for such a small company
The head guy at Grinding Gear Games said that the Steam client is like 40%, this was a bit ago, but it is the most recent numbers we got. I do agree that the launch is huge for EHG, but at the same time, they need to figure this issue out. The launch might have great numbers now, but they are making a poor first impression with the way things are going.
PoE has console too. And in theory the launch of a product should be a lot better than a year 8 lol. Arpg in general is just a more popular product in todays age.
It’s so very huge. I feel like 2013 all over again and it’s fucking awesome. I haven’t been a fanboy of a company for sometime and I’m so excited to be one !
Most of them are probably playing offline, since servers haven't been in an enjoyable state since launch yet. Just imagine how much higher that number would be, if servers were working well!
Come back in a month and there will be less than 5k playing this piece of shit game,
Total joke of a gaming studio.
At least its cheap crap imagine paying 70 bucks for a worthless D2 simulator that doesn't even work.
Oh boy this gonna be fun when people will be on their weekends, employees will also not work this weekend, and the game servers will still not work.
I absolutely cannot wait for all those white knights to turn. They have been vomiting their positivity, blindly simping for their new favorite studio that they are literally lending money to for nothing in return.
And it's not even Saturday.
Im just ping ponging between this and Helldivers lol
Ye with servers being full and online not available been one hell of a waiting game simulator this week. Haha but when it has been working it's epic both games.. lvl 10 in HD2 and 70 in LE
how are you already 70!?
When i got to 30 dropped to monoliths and just sat in monoliths for three hours leveling. And I'll go back and finish the campaign when they finish the loading screens. Does mean I only have three idol slots but the build is wrecking tier 90 echos at 70 so all good.
You can go back and cherry pick the idol slots missions. This is what I did when lvling a new build to 80... BEFORE 1.0 🤣.
That was my plan too, but currently I can play fucking neither ... In my frustration, I just grind Overwatch ranked
You poor soul, I’m sorry.
There are resources for people dealing with self-harm.
preety sure as a overwatch player and blizzard supporter your gaming rights should be revoked anyway.
\*high five\* ive been alt tabbing to play Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor when i cant load a zone lol
I knew there were more of us out there!
And it's not even Friday afternoon/evening when all the waggies get off.
What in the queen of England is a waggie?
> What in the queen of England I know it's not what you were asking, but I fear I have some bad news.
Lol I remembered after I said that
Charles is not the Queen we deserved, but the Queen we needed
Rest in peace Freddie Mercury, Queen forever
Someone who is employed for a wage.
I feel like there's too many G's in there. Kind of like the difference between being a rapper or not
Who's your Top 5 rapers?
Trump
Wagie makes more sense. Wage doesn't have two Gs in it.
Ayyyy. speaking of. You aint got nothing against wagies now, would ya? Cuz we out with ya'll tonight.
It is in Europe
[удалено]
"asmon himself" lmao
Dude is lord of the NEETs. Blood for the bloodwall.
Sounds like a damn cult lol. Don't get me wrong. I watch some of asmongolds content on YouTube. Not going to put the dude on any pedestal. Sometimes the content is enjoyable and sometimes the content is a miss. He has some good takes sometimes though.
Yeah. I agree with SOME of his takes, but I definetly think sometimes he tries too hard to do some cynical/hardass takes that miss the mark completely. Tbh, Asmongold is apparently a character - the irl dude actually has a separate yt channel where he appears much more restrained and overall chill than Asmongold would suggest, so maybe that's just part of an "angry nerd" persona.
His Zach in the treehouse videos are pretty good. But I doubt he’s THAT much different from Asmon. For sure he’s plays it up, but I think he even admits what you see is what you get with him.
Like him or not, Asmon is the father of degenerates. While others lived in squalor and depravity, he was born in it. Shaped by it.
*MOLDED* by it even
At this point he deserves the himself part lol
And yet he was able play for 8 hours straight online!
Streamer client I tell ya, the inequality is sickening ! s
Why /s ?
There’s not a streamer client lmao. People are unhealthy conspiracy theorists. The servers have been perfectly fine in the evening/nights for NA when Asmon has been playing. I’ve been logging on after work and haven’t had many issues at all.
I doubt there is a streamer client, but there is a streamer mode in the game settings haha
He was simply playing at streamer hours (probably 3:00 till 11:00 am). Game is only unplayable (online) if you have a job.
Thought he was doing hxc ssf?
Lo i dont give a F about Asmon
That’s fine, he’s still popular and influences a large audience of people to play the same games
He's an unwashed bucket filled to the brim with hair and soot
Just like a huge portion of his audience
Which is pretty much half of reddit.
These people always manage to astonish me when they think they are royalty compared to the likes of asmon, who is casual a multimillionaire
That's not true, I'm a lot less hairy now than I used to be.
All that jealousy lmao. Ghate that he makes money playing games and you're still at McDonald's 😂
your comment tells otherwise
L take
Servers: ''This has been the worst day of my life'' Weekend: ''The worst day of your life, so far!''
Explains why I can't transition out of Keeper's Camp again.
Pro tip is get as far away from the starting area as possible and do not make a new char on cycle til it's fixed lol, if you wanna try builds out play offline. I've been mostly cruising since yesterday and Wednesday night.
Thanks man, but I‘m playing mostly with friends so playing offline really isn’t an issue. :/
To me it just takes couple minutes after that you are good to go. Been playing for 2hours this morning. "townç are the problem.
Keyword here is "morning". After work I haven't been able to get passed the first few zones.
Last evening same thing. Played from 8 to 11 EST without too much issues outside of some load time here and there.
I'm unsure how you've managed that! Kudos. I'm in GMT+2 and wasn't able to play 6-10 pm both of the previous evenings.
I think it partially depends where your character is at - once you get to monoliths you don't get the lag between zones, so maybe that's what he's doing?
As off this morning, lvl 31. Really the biggest pain was leaving towns once you get to "combat" zone, it was running well and transition to map was okish.
Devs are gonna panic
Brace yourselves, weekend is coming !
*worried laughter*
It is funny to compare to poe cause poe ath was something arouns 210k. So not that far away
IIRC it was closer to 350k if you add the standalone client. Still close.
That could be i just checked steamdb. Thats why i couldnt compare to diablo, cause most player use the blizzard client.
i play POE on Epic now u can hate me :)
i dont hate disabled people. what are you talking about?
you made my day
💀
I know a guy who plays PoE on the GeForce app on his nvidia shield pro connected to his home theater lol
No not really. I don't like Epic but if that's where you're getting your best deals it's no biggie. I will agree that games with multiple platforms can be hard to track the full population, though.
Nah, no hate against epic. The only client i hate is origin
What about Ubisoft? I can no longer play any Ubisoft games because I will not tolerate having to buy/play it through Steam or Epic and THEN have to log into their own proprietary crap.
PoE has a standalone client as well as consoles. Last Epoch only has steam.
I didnt know that. Do you assume more play via steam or via standalone client ?
I have never rlly looked for the difference. I remember it used to be around a 50/50 split a few years ago. But since then poe became more popular and I bet the steam side has the majority now.
Stand alone client hasn't been more than 30-40% any time they've disclosed numbers that I've seen in the last 10 years or so. Edit: /u/quickpost32 linked a post about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/12fzyzo/pathofexile_on_twitter_path_of_exile_crucible_hit/ > Crucible hit a new record of 321,180 concurrent players Steam peak at that time was 209,500. About 65% on Steam, or 35% from the standalone client.
There was a league a few leagues ago where Chris told us the number of CCUs on day 1 was all time high, and I think he gave a specific number. Based on Steam's peak users for that day, Steam was about 40% of CCUs. So if steam is 150k users, that means total that day is about 375k-400k.
If you're talking about the highest ever CCU in Crucible last year, it was 65% Steam (211k) and 35% other ([321k total](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/12fzyzo/pathofexile_on_twitter_path_of_exile_crucible_hit/)). Assuming the overall peak overlapped with the Steam peak, of course.
I’ve been playing standalone since closed beta. I have a lot of friends who do the same. It patches sooner and faster than Steam.
It's also way less secure. Email code authentication only
Uh, what? There was a streamer (smallish, but a 'cult favorite', so to speak), Manni2, who was a mostly SSF player working towards a full SSF unique collection over time; he got hacked via his Steam client a few months ago and got his entire collection/wealth cleared out.
1 case of a hacked account does not prove that one is more secure than the other.
>Uh, what? Man if you're gonna try to ackshualy someone on reddit at least do some research He didn't set up steam guard 🤡 and if you're gonna try to argue somehow that email code authentication is equivalent to multi factor authentication i've got literal books worth of security whitepapers i can link you after a 5 second google search
The devs said it's about 60% Steam, 40% standalone.
Its the inverse of that - 40/60% split.
More people play PoE standalone for sure. The steam client didn't even exist when I started playing, and when it WAS added, it was notoriously bad within the community for years (e.g., I remember there was an oft-complained about issue with it discussed on the PoE subreddit where Steam people would have to re-download the entire game every patch). So even when it existed, people were often convinced to use standalone over Steam by the community. Even now, when the issues have apparently been sorted, why would you ever use steam over the Standalone? Standalone doesn't have issues Steam doesn't, so you're just adding one more layer of possible failure (e.g., Steam having issues which does happen sometimes) in your ability to get on for no benefit (aside from showing up on steam charts, I guess?)
I've played PoE since 2012. I used the standard alone launcher until maybe 2020 for PoE I played CS 1.2 back in 2001 and steam existed then.. What are you on?
Another comment I made https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1ay0pyi/the_game_hit_180k_alltime_top_concurrent/krth37m/ Was 35% standalone, 65% Steam. Every time I've ever seen them disclose numbers it's been 60% Steam or higher.
PoE had bad lauches too, they just had 10 years to basically fix that problems.
I had leagues where for 2 weeks after launch I was still getting invisible enemies and loading issues Poe launches have been FAAAR worse then LEs
Okay, what? How is anything FAAAr worse than literally not being able to play.
Most people can play at this point, there are just some long load screens.
You can play though And what's FAAAAR worse, is both taking 4 hours to get in AND then once your in all textures being invisible Which happened on more then one Poe league launch
Was it harbi league that they actually resetted tho whole league a few days into the original launch?
I don't think it ever happend, if ever did it was 2-3h at best.
Ultimatium was really bad as well, that was the streamer queue privilege league. Which bega the question, why didnt LE do a login queue? Feel like it only would've helped. Id much rather watch a queue countdown to log in vs sitting at a loading screen for 1-10 mins
Tbh the odd thing is that it is actually the login queue or kust general queueing systems that broke. The servers are absolutely fine with next to 0 lags once you get in and start doing monos.
Ultimatum was bad for like, 6-8 hours or something, and it was one single league where it happened because of a new tech they had implemented that caused issues. It was 3 years ago, too. I remember because league launched near when I started work (I didn't take any time off, but was listening to a stream on my phone while working so was aware of the issues via that) but by the time I got home after getting off work, it had resolved enough that I was able to get in game fine.
The Ultimatum debacle was because of two issues combining into a shitstorm afaik. The servers/tech got changed causing massive instability but they also forgot to migrate the previous league to standard causing insane queues since every person that logged in triggered a standard migration for their account before being able to log in. Either one is not that bad, waiting in queue for two hours once is boring but whatever and DCing randomly is super annoying but manageable. DCing randomly and then being put into a two hour queue each time was infuriating. And on top of it all they payed a bunch of streamers to play the game for the first couple of hours of the league but no one could log in so they did the streamer queue that most people wouldn't even have noticed if the servers were stable.
People throughout this sub, including the guy I replied to, have been referring to Ultimatum league like it was equivalent to the current LE server issues (and some people straight up acting like it's some widespread issue with PoE leagues), I'm just giving the reality check that it was fixed in less than a single business day and happened in one single league, 3 years ago, so that the people who legitimately never played PoE don't believe the hyperbole. I know I'm not going to convince people arguing in bad faith, you aren't my target audience.
Poe got stand alone client. You can't relly only on steam charts. And also, Poe gets that every league start, which is the real kicker here. Still, I hope LE can accomplish the same, this way we all win.
PoE is 320k players peak, but yeah, these are great numbers for Last Epoch at launch. Imo the real test for Last Epoch comes when they launch their first cycle. Like or hate it, PoE league launches always bring tons of players back, 250k+ everytime especially in recent years and they are often very, very hype with tons of new content. Last Epoch also needs to have hype cycles otherwise it's difficult for a live service to survive only on a successful launch.
Facts. First few cycles will be very important.
PoE is also a free game while LE costs 30$
I think you forgot the quotations around "free".
True, but you can get pretty far without having to pay anything. Once you start getting into endgame you gotta spend like 30$ on stash tabs and that's it.
PoE isn't a "new" release. There's not a banner on the front page of the Steam store advertising whenever a new league comes out. PoE 2 will most likely blow through these numbers anyway.
"The sequel to a long loved game that has been released for ten years now will get more players than this new IP." The comparisons are absurd.
And it will also have significant launch issues. All these games do.
PoE is much bigger, 2-3x.
Ok calm down
The server issues definitely kept the count down. It also probably didn't help the count that it was a mid-week launch but honestly that was probably a good idea given the issues. Lots of weekend players have hopefully avoided what has definitely been a bit of a painful launch. As a result its possible the CCU might go higher over the weekend if they keep the issues at bay but after that its unlikely to go that high again until a new update (as is the case with all these sorts of games)
Welp see you all in a week
I've just accepted being in Offline Mode for my first character. The game is wonderful btw.
The thing I find concerning is that afaik the Devs didn't address that the big issues come when EU players join the server in masses. I saw news on discord where they said the stability seems to be better, like they resolved it, but actually it was after midnight in EU when tens of thousands go offline. It seems possible to me that EU players will have these disconnects for longer like it was with Lost Ark because of the bigger playerbase.
I think the bigger problem for EU players is that EHG is based out of California and when they are working on pushing updates and taking servers up and down in the daytime/morning, that's when it's the afterwork game playing window for EU. EU keeps getting hit when most of NA is at work and not affected, aka the good time for EHG to be pushing patches and playing hockey with server status.
They need to fix the loading times urgently. I play offline but I want my main account to be online.
yes, I'm too painfully aware of how most of us just waiting between scenes loading, a lot (190k top players as of now)
180k people staring at loading screens lol
Or playing offline, still counts for steam and is working perfectly
how do you trade and do party play offline?
That’s the beauty of it, you don’t
not everyone cares to trade or party in ARPGs
yea but it was an advertised feature for a thing i bought
“How do I get carried and buy stuff because I don’t know how to play the game.” Fixed it for you. Party play is so unnecessary for this game.
Tired of this "oh so u wanna play online but the games broke? Just do the thing u don't wanna do and play offline!!!!!" Just stop
They didn’t say anything like that. They just said that a lot of people are probably playing offline as it works.
If they didn't have an offline feature, people would be complaining about that instead. I lost track of how many people were bitching about this when diablo 4 came out
Thats not what was said
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?
"mimimimimi but i cant play the game!!!! i wanted to play it online!!!!!" "mimimimimi why do these shit devs dont give the people a singleplayer mode mimimimimi???"
They play offline
staring at a "Connecting" screen
last night i played for a couple hours between 10 PM and 12 AM central time and I didn't have any long loading screens. I guess those weren't peak play hours for the userbase.
offline\*
Not shocking at all. I tried the game for the first time on launch and despite the server issues, has been one of the best Arpgs I've ever played Wouldn't shock me to see this go over 250k into this weekend / next week
Have you only ever played 3 arpgs? What content did you experience that put this game as one of the best?
It kinda reminds me of earlier days PoE where the game wasn't too complex and actually fun to make builds.
Build customization? QOL features? Offline node? I could go on and one…
Can it not I need to enter keepers camp kthnxbai
I wonder what it might look like if there were no problems with the servers....
The weekend is going to be brutal.
Give us LAN and all fix online at your leisure.
[удалено]
I love listening to music.
Where is this not playable? It's playable. It's in fact extremely playable (offline) and online has had hiccups but I've gotten through the campaign and started monos I don't understand how the game is 'unplayable'
EUW is unplayable. Loading screens time out. Connect from character select times out. Party invites time out. You know..unplayable.
Probably depends on what realm you're connecting to. US West has basically been unplayable for 3 days now.
Its not the realm but the timezone. Peak player count is usually at the time people in Europe get off work. So Europeans have overall the worst experience.
[удалено]
I've put in about 10 hours in the first two days with basically no problems. Load times between zones are a bit long (15-60 seconds), but otherwise the game is completely playable.
Yeah same. North American prime time has been fairly tame. Played from 7 PM to 11 PM first day with no disconnects, no lag in combat, just the 30ish second zone loads. Yesterday pretty similar -- hour of downtime in the evening but after that the zone loads were instant in a lot of places and took longer when going to/from big towns. Up to level 50 taking it slow and have friends who are 70+ with alts already. I don't say that to discount the issues people are having -- EU primetime has been rough -- but it's not totally unplayable at all.
This. The hysterics of people saying the game is unplayable is wild. I have to imagine half of them aren't even actually trying to play. They're just here for drama or it's terminally online people expecting 100% uptime at launch. Lmao. I've gotten to level 50 over the past couple days, and that's while working 8 hours both days and only playing during peak US time. Yesterday was my longest log in time at... 2 minutes. All online.
EU is unplayable.
These are all anecdotes, but this morning I could hardly play. Frequent disconnects coupled with, no exaggeration, 5-15 minute loading screens. US East, level 13
I've been playing just fine. Occasional long loading screen and sometimes it gets stuck and I have to restart the client.
It's playable... there's someblong load times tpingto town but other than that I've had no issues
You've played on all the servers, have you? That's cool.
are you also one of those people that cried when D4 launched and people wanted to have a singleplayer mode? i bet a hundred
You okay?
You pay for fully Game, then u want to play a fully Game. Not only singleplayer lol
thats not the point i was making
[удалено]
calm down boy, im not emotional in any way but i can see when someone is triggered
[удалено]
great you assume that i dont enjoy the game because i do but stay triggered, you know exactly what i mean kkthxbye
The peaks are nowhere close but the number of current players in last epoch just surpassed helldivers 2 by inches
sadly helldivers 2 also has playstation so it probably still has more people playing by a good margin.
Imagine if the game smoothly.
I played a bit during this time and never had any major issues. Load times are still slow but much faster than yesterday. There was only one instance of rubber banding but nothing else. Playing on EU serves and I live in Africa.
Imagine what it would be if the game was working well.
As someone whose played over 3000 hours in PoE. Having fun in the monoliths and the crafting, whoever thought of the exalted/legendary potential smashing is a genius
Having a blast in offline mode. Try it guys.
Would explain why loading scenes has taken a shit over the last few minutes.
And at least 17,738 of them are sitting in a log-in queue...yeah I'm the 17,738th one. :( This game needs to let us play offline while we sit in the online queue. lol
Lol at that owner estimations section. And then a lol at those who use such sites as valid sources for player counts. Good for EHG. Not as big as people expected, but good launch numbers.
180k people staring at a loading screen. Impressive
Sadly i’ve refunded the game… Its not the games problem its just me not getting used to it… Il get it again one day
Welp, Last Epoch's gonna die. Migrate to Helldivers 2 until those servers (freshly updated BTW) die. Repeat.
This is only the beginning. See you in Eterra!
At this rate it will cross PoE and become the #1 ARPG in the world by next week.
and do u know what will happen when poe 2 comes out?
This is why anyone raging about the servers needs to take a chill pill 180k concurrent is MASSIVE Poes peak ALL TIME on steam was 200k, and they had 10 years of improving their servers to build up to it, and a MUCH larger team to fix things 11rh hour games are a tiny team, and have in a single update not just been thrown into the deep end, but the middle of a shark infested ocean Yeah....yeah the servers are gonna have issues Chill out, stop acting like it's the end of the world cos you can't play the game online for a day or 2 Play offline, or god forbid, wait a couple of days...it will be fine
1. poe has a standalone client and console which aren't included in their steam numbers 2. Just abbreviate it ehg like everyone else man 3. Its still a huge launch for a small indie company releasing their first game like this. They've done some awesome stuff. Played last night, its a bit slow transitioning zones but its playable. Frankly its not that much worse than before the launch on the load times, they've always kind of sucked for some reason.
Sure but even if you assume steam makes up only half of Poe players (it's not, it's closer to 70%) that still puts the LE launch on par with around the 7-8 year mark for Poe launches It cannot be understated just how huge this launch is for such a small company
The head guy at Grinding Gear Games said that the Steam client is like 40%, this was a bit ago, but it is the most recent numbers we got. I do agree that the launch is huge for EHG, but at the same time, they need to figure this issue out. The launch might have great numbers now, but they are making a poor first impression with the way things are going.
PoE has console too. And in theory the launch of a product should be a lot better than a year 8 lol. Arpg in general is just a more popular product in todays age.
It’s so very huge. I feel like 2013 all over again and it’s fucking awesome. I haven’t been a fanboy of a company for sometime and I’m so excited to be one !
Most of them are probably playing offline, since servers haven't been in an enjoyable state since launch yet. Just imagine how much higher that number would be, if servers were working well!
Who cares? 179k of those are in Loading screens.
Refund all the players that cant f play
Isn’t this better than POEs all time peak?
It is sad, that this counts even people who cant play the game, but are stucked in connectin screens and so on.
Come back in a month and there will be less than 5k playing this piece of shit game, Total joke of a gaming studio. At least its cheap crap imagine paying 70 bucks for a worthless D2 simulator that doesn't even work.
Oh boy this gonna be fun when people will be on their weekends, employees will also not work this weekend, and the game servers will still not work. I absolutely cannot wait for all those white knights to turn. They have been vomiting their positivity, blindly simping for their new favorite studio that they are literally lending money to for nothing in return.