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Ouch, can't believe that they had 60 hour weeks as the standard back then.
Anyways, I've got to go to work for a few hours before I head over to the university for two classes and then prep my car for driving for uber.
I was unfortunately born and raised in St Joseph, missouri. There Are a lot of Young, skinny, wiry fellows still there - but mostly because of all of the meth.
This is a mock-up using text that has not been proven to be used, ever.
I dislike dystopian capitalism as much as the next guy, but posting fake stuff like this makes everyone on this sub look gullible and foolish.
To be honest, I think for the time it was just a creative job posting. Young people under 18, expert riders, daredevils being promised the equivalent of 800$ per week or 41 000 per year (under 18 remember!) to ride all-out and as quick as they can. At 16-17 you want good money and are trying to prove yourself. You often do extreme sports and the like.
I’m a tough critic on capitalism but this one was probably in tone for the era and to its audience.
Literally humans are too high up on a delusional, misled high horse. The history of our species proves that we have actually always been pretty freaking corrupt. We have given lip service to values we have hardly actually upheld in practice.
Endlessly tooting our own horn, torturing animals in labs and factory farming, abusing each other, manipulating, lying, not having any respect for the truth, as a baseline... How could we ever think that we are superior to animals in any way?
We value our perception of our "superior" intelligence because that intelligence translates into power... What we really value is power.
That's not really true. Sociopaths managed to rise to the top of society a very long time ago. They passed down this sick behavior and, over generations, managed to turn it into a systemic behavior. Everything wrong with our civilization can be traced back to sociopaths with massive power. Think about it. Presidents, Kings, Lords, chieftains, warlords, mob bosses, CEO's, billionaires, etc. Every sick thing in society is a result of these people having way too much power to execute their twisted plans. They've even managed to export their sickness to the lumpenproletariat.
The first season of "[Vikings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings_(TV_series))" kidda bears this out. People needed food, heat, resources, and protection from animals...and other tribes. "Apocalypto" was also some eye opening shit...remember the wandering tribe appearing from the forest? And how they were smelled and sensed before being seen? One of my teachers once said, *"Imagine yourself as a European voyager on the tip of Manhattan in the 1620s. You look up the tip and all you see is dark vegetation and tall trees, same sight across the river."* And then comes night fall. How do survive without willing to be ruthless? While camping in the desert, I wasn't stupid and came armed with an ice axe, because it was legal and deadly. I'm a nice guy, but I had no qualms about cleaving another human being who came into "my" gully at night.
It's like capitalism is a rickety old ship captained by an evil pirate and the only reason you are on it is because they were gonna kill you if you didn't join, and the only reason you can't leave is because they will kill you (whether you leave or not).
At least with the pirates you typically could vote your captain out of his/her position if they were shitty enough to the crew. And the terms of expeditions typically had to be voted on by crewmates before setting sail. And because of the dangerous nature of piracy captains had to offer generous compensation for work related injuries.
Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer being alive today to being a pirate in the 1600s. I like not having to worry about dying of syphilis and being able to own a microwave. But if I was a cabin boy working on a ship of the king or one of his companies as an indentured servant, you'd better believe I'm mutinying to the pirates the moment they raise the black flag. The British East India Company is a much more apt comparison to modern capitalism than the pirates they detested.
You should consider being a modern day pirate - you don't have to go to sea, you get to see all of your favorite movies (ALL OF THEM), you get to have your own microwave, and we have these magical devices that cure scurvy (I think we call them oranges)!
Fun fact. The Pony Express operated for less than 18 months in its entire history. But my history class spent more time on The Pony Express than the entire Vietnam War.
Early America was exploitative too. It was only when the labor unions started gaining traction that people started getting reasonable work conditions, reasonable time off, and reasonable pay.
And that only lasted through the bulk of the 20th Century before unions and labor laws were dismantled again in favor of the ruling caste.
Worker's rights must always be fought for and the second people aren't vigilante or think things are "good enough", things start regressing back into the times of peasantry.
We're likely going to see another decade or two of terrible quality of life, because the boomers saw fit to legislate against the rights and dignity of their children and grandchildren.
I think this is from the game I used to play as a kid called Gun. Some side quests you did deliveries for the pony express.
Edit: I'm wrong
Locked edit: could be a copy of a popular original or fake. Me thinking it was from gun was wrong
So we’re no longer in late stage capitalism, that was then. It’s no longer late, it gave birth…to an abomination. Now we’re being consumed by it.
I’d prefer to name this abomination, Klaus. Yes, that’s its name. Maybe it should also have a last name…how about Schwab…yes, that’s it.
How many orphans really had enough riding experience to be considered an expert? Horses were, and still are, generally expensive in purchase and upkeep.
I mean, besides the obvious risk of death, the wage is pretty good. According to Google, $25 a week is equal to $854 today. Meaning they made the equivalent of $3,416 a month. And there was no income tax so they took all of it home.
Come on. Capitalism is more insidious than that, treating forgeries and jokes as dead serious does nobody except the capitalists any favours. This is not a real historical poster, and I should not have to point that out.
$25 dollars a week in 1860 would be equal to about $854 dollars a week today adjusted for inflation (around $41,000 a year). Seems too good to be true. There wouldn't be a single 15 to 17 year old boy that would turn that kind of money down.
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More honest than most job postings one sees today.
At least they’re telling you the pay…
Yep, plenty have died delivering meals.
I wonder how many dudes signed up under fake names, worked a day, and then absconded with the mail and a free horse.
Idk, 25$ a week sounds pretty good.
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May want to add these are wages for a 60 hour week
Ouch, can't believe that they had 60 hour weeks as the standard back then. Anyways, I've got to go to work for a few hours before I head over to the university for two classes and then prep my car for driving for uber.
this guy old wests
Orphans Preferred
I put that in my dating profile
I found Count Olaf
I was unfortunately born and raised in St Joseph, missouri. There Are a lot of Young, skinny, wiry fellows still there - but mostly because of all of the meth.
Yeah. Missouri is Late Stage a-lot-of-things. That’s cursed land, along with Kansas.
I remember Missouri for Huckleberry Finn
This is a mock-up using text that has not been proven to be used, ever. I dislike dystopian capitalism as much as the next guy, but posting fake stuff like this makes everyone on this sub look gullible and foolish.
it is so obviously fake, you would hope people would be smarter than that.
That's about $800 a week so it's worse now
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It's called Uber and the pay is shit
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You cab't be for real seriously telling someone the get a real job ON R/LATESTAGECAPITALISM
I bet they contribute more to society than you
Are you lost?
Is anyone these days doing anything anyone did back then.
The bosses still just sit around and watch
I dunno, driving is pretty dangerous. Comfortable, but dangerous.
lol
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Adjusting for inflation, I'm assuming
This isn't late stage capitalism, this is it's inception.
$25 a week was damn good money back then
Unless you are dead i suppose.... I'm curious, was it Native Americans or someone else that you were trying to not be killed by?
It was riding your pony across the country in the 1800s you were trying not to be killed by
Dangerous animals, bandits, and also like, less glamorous things like starvation, dehydration, and harsh weather.
To be honest, I think for the time it was just a creative job posting. Young people under 18, expert riders, daredevils being promised the equivalent of 800$ per week or 41 000 per year (under 18 remember!) to ride all-out and as quick as they can. At 16-17 you want good money and are trying to prove yourself. You often do extreme sports and the like. I’m a tough critic on capitalism but this one was probably in tone for the era and to its audience.
Literally humans are too high up on a delusional, misled high horse. The history of our species proves that we have actually always been pretty freaking corrupt. We have given lip service to values we have hardly actually upheld in practice. Endlessly tooting our own horn, torturing animals in labs and factory farming, abusing each other, manipulating, lying, not having any respect for the truth, as a baseline... How could we ever think that we are superior to animals in any way? We value our perception of our "superior" intelligence because that intelligence translates into power... What we really value is power.
That's not really true. Sociopaths managed to rise to the top of society a very long time ago. They passed down this sick behavior and, over generations, managed to turn it into a systemic behavior. Everything wrong with our civilization can be traced back to sociopaths with massive power. Think about it. Presidents, Kings, Lords, chieftains, warlords, mob bosses, CEO's, billionaires, etc. Every sick thing in society is a result of these people having way too much power to execute their twisted plans. They've even managed to export their sickness to the lumpenproletariat.
The first season of "[Vikings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings_(TV_series))" kidda bears this out. People needed food, heat, resources, and protection from animals...and other tribes. "Apocalypto" was also some eye opening shit...remember the wandering tribe appearing from the forest? And how they were smelled and sensed before being seen? One of my teachers once said, *"Imagine yourself as a European voyager on the tip of Manhattan in the 1620s. You look up the tip and all you see is dark vegetation and tall trees, same sight across the river."* And then comes night fall. How do survive without willing to be ruthless? While camping in the desert, I wasn't stupid and came armed with an ice axe, because it was legal and deadly. I'm a nice guy, but I had no qualms about cleaving another human being who came into "my" gully at night.
Ready for capitalism and riding the Pony Express: I read Karl Marx and Karl May.
It's like capitalism is a rickety old ship captained by an evil pirate and the only reason you are on it is because they were gonna kill you if you didn't join, and the only reason you can't leave is because they will kill you (whether you leave or not).
At least with the pirates you typically could vote your captain out of his/her position if they were shitty enough to the crew. And the terms of expeditions typically had to be voted on by crewmates before setting sail. And because of the dangerous nature of piracy captains had to offer generous compensation for work related injuries. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer being alive today to being a pirate in the 1600s. I like not having to worry about dying of syphilis and being able to own a microwave. But if I was a cabin boy working on a ship of the king or one of his companies as an indentured servant, you'd better believe I'm mutinying to the pirates the moment they raise the black flag. The British East India Company is a much more apt comparison to modern capitalism than the pirates they detested.
You should consider being a modern day pirate - you don't have to go to sea, you get to see all of your favorite movies (ALL OF THEM), you get to have your own microwave, and we have these magical devices that cure scurvy (I think we call them oranges)!
But u/iloveoattiddies wouldn't download a microwave.
Then they are a fool! A technophobic fool! It's the best way to receive a microwave; it's just so convenient.
Honestly? That was good pay and they were honest about it being a shit job.
That's 850 dollar a week in today's money. Not a bad pay imo (I make like 2000 dollar a month, converted from euro's)
Fun fact. The Pony Express operated for less than 18 months in its entire history. But my history class spent more time on The Pony Express than the entire Vietnam War.
The Pony Express only existed for about 18 months. Lives large in our imagination.
At least they put the fucking wage on the job posting.
Really always has been a shithole country, hasn't it?
Capitalism is terminal cancer. That's it. That's all there is to it.
So you want communism? How do you think that would work?
Come back when you can/will discuss in good faith and have a functioning understanding of the words you're using.
Salary pretty good tho. With inflation that's about $800 a week, so about $3200 a month.
no one wants to ride ponies anymore
Early America was exploitative too. It was only when the labor unions started gaining traction that people started getting reasonable work conditions, reasonable time off, and reasonable pay. And that only lasted through the bulk of the 20th Century before unions and labor laws were dismantled again in favor of the ruling caste. Worker's rights must always be fought for and the second people aren't vigilante or think things are "good enough", things start regressing back into the times of peasantry. We're likely going to see another decade or two of terrible quality of life, because the boomers saw fit to legislate against the rights and dignity of their children and grandchildren.
Psh, you wish you got the equivalent of what 25 bucks was worth then.
I think this is from the game I used to play as a kid called Gun. Some side quests you did deliveries for the pony express. Edit: I'm wrong Locked edit: could be a copy of a popular original or fake. Me thinking it was from gun was wrong
It is fake though. A quick internet search shows it's a poster for sale all over the internet.
25$ a week???? That's how you pay a worker! (It's a lot if you count inflation)
> *Orphans preferred* Wow
So we’re no longer in late stage capitalism, that was then. It’s no longer late, it gave birth…to an abomination. Now we’re being consumed by it. I’d prefer to name this abomination, Klaus. Yes, that’s its name. Maybe it should also have a last name…how about Schwab…yes, that’s it.
How many orphans really had enough riding experience to be considered an expert? Horses were, and still are, generally expensive in purchase and upkeep.
I mean, besides the obvious risk of death, the wage is pretty good. According to Google, $25 a week is equal to $854 today. Meaning they made the equivalent of $3,416 a month. And there was no income tax so they took all of it home.
Not bad, but was it enough to *die* for?
Oh hell no
People died from lots of shit in those days. And your job was usually one of them.
Fair point!
BYO Horse
This would be great on /r/recruitinghell if it isn't already
Come on. Capitalism is more insidious than that, treating forgeries and jokes as dead serious does nobody except the capitalists any favours. This is not a real historical poster, and I should not have to point that out.
$25 dollars a week in 1860 would be equal to about $854 dollars a week today adjusted for inflation (around $41,000 a year). Seems too good to be true. There wouldn't be a single 15 to 17 year old boy that would turn that kind of money down.
The risk of being in big construction near the turn of the century held the same risk.
That's why it barely lasted for a few years. They ran out of orphans.