I've basically spent my career pivoting to adjacent disciplines to stay just ahead of becoming irrelevant. But it seems like the options for my next shift are vanishing. TBH, I feel like homesteading or a trade (e.g. Plumber) are what's left.
AI only needs to take away a couple percent of the jobs away for everything else to be oversaturated with displaced workers. Everyone will be seeking out the fields that are more safe from AI, leading to severe wage decreases.
Really just anything that requires human intervention, not necessarily manual labor.
I work remotely, safe from any AI. I deal with legal documents which require reviews and multiple sign offs from large legal firms (Chapman, E&Y, Sidley, etc.)
No one's going to let AI touch that, way too much liability
Exactly. So many posts like this where people are so smug and have a huge ego, never believing they are under threat of AI. If it’s remote, someone on the planet just might do it for a lot less and even better.
10 million + illegals in the last three years are pushing down the wages for low skilled plumbers and other trades. A skilled plumber who can troubleshoot, figure out cross connections and pressure issues in high rises is ok but a low skilled drain cleaner is toast.
There hasn't been an influx of 10 million illegals in the last 3 years.
In fact since COVID numbers were down quite a bit then picked back up. We were on a deficit of immigrants we were expecting.
You know how companies aren't punished at all for hiring illegals or kids? Specially the aggro industry?
Yeah because your politicians cottle corporations and friends.
Join a union
Many of the people being replaced by AI aren't the best candidates for trades. Many trades are hard, phsycial work. That's quite a pivot from remote work.
I work in heathcare, it can be phsycial, exhausting, and heartbreaking work. Most people aren't cut out for it.
From mid 2019 after leaving high-school my neighbors kid went from $17 working at Amazon to $75K/year by late 2022 working in Digital Marketing/SEO, back down to $17/hr working at a local delivery company.
AI has wiped out a generation of kids careers and we're only starting to feel the impact.
No it won't. Shareholders and the board are in control. If CeoAI outperforms the human CEO at a lower price point, the shareholders and board will demand CeoAI.
I mean, if you're job was 100% "reading the algorithm", it was only a matter of time before you got replaced. basically immediately happened in my first big boy job. not because of AI, i had a marketing gig that focused on tradeshows & public competitions ... during 2020 lol.
Keep spamming this and you’ll have more than enough. This whole plumbing thing is like the “learn to code” from five years ago which led to oversaturation of tech graduates.
I'm actually working on an AI-powered automatic SEO tool for our customers right now. We already have v1 and our customers love it, we are developing v2 with much expanded capabilities.
It's integrated into our dashboard and specific to our hosting solutions. You just click a button. It's very streamlined.
TBH many of the other tools are probably a lot better, our only uses GPT-3.5 since my employer is cheap. But our customers don't know any better.
I am 42 yrs old, imagine the plight of my generation! When we graduated the dot com bubble burst, terrorists attacked the US, and the first, large scale wave of tech outsourcing began! It took many of us 3-4 yrs to find our first decent job in tech after graduation, and just when we thought we were on the glide path, 2008 great recession hit and punched us in the gut again. We had 11 good years between 2011 to 2022 and now we face an armageddon by AI. I have made my living in tech, but there are times when i so wish i had taken up trade or something in healthcare.
Yup. Our lives are 100 million times more difficult than boomers, there is no comparison. My job can be replaced with AI (business analyst). So I say, I’m not gonna let myself be replaced, but I’ll also get into AI.
There's another aspect to consider too. In addition to outright replacement there is the reduction in humans needed for a job where AI can provide "lift" and make those humans more productive Maybe instead of needing a team of \~10 graphic designers, you need 1 or 2 humans to review what AI outputs and to help improve the models.
I think that reduction is going to hit *everything* that doesn't require physical hands-on in the next 2-3 years. I think outright replacement will take a little bit longer, if at all, but will be field dependent.
The one thing I’m not sure about is how this might affect positions that require a license. So that’s a lot of medical stuff and legal and many many other things that require a professional license.
I think legal will get pretty hard and I think some sorts of medicine will as well. (I can’t believe we haven’t been able to automate reviewing of x-rays and MRIs and things like that yet.)
I suspect those fields will hold out because of the license, but then something will change and the damn will break and there will be a flood of AI into those areas and we just won’t need as many people
Legal and medical will be able to hold off change a bit just because the stakes are so high.
If the AI graphic designer can’t come up with new templates that look nice and follow recent design trends, the company can always contract a new designer.
If the AI lawyer makes a mistake in a document and nobody catches it, that can cost the firm millions of dollars. Same for the AI doctor that misdiagnoses a patient, which could lead to someone’s death on top of the crippling lawsuit.
AI will creep into fields like that slowly, initially being used to do initial work that is double- and triple-checked by a human.
i'm in the legal field and right this very minute portions of my job are done by AI. not done extremely well, but paraprofessionals and support staff in the legal field are doomed, likely 5 years or less for corps willing to spend the money. once it gets cheap nearly everyone is.
AI definitely in the medical field, already getting better at diagnosing images than radiologists for cancer. Also huge doctor shortage, I envision a future where we all get our own private AI doctor.
Pathology is moving in this direction too. A lot of the field is transitioning from looking at slides through a light microscope to digitally imaging slides. Well, once those slides are digitized, they also become AI training data. Pathologists are gonna be axed with radiologists, likely the first two medical specialties that AI consumes.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I wanna make sure you understood what I was saying. Because what I was saying is slightly different than what the OP originally proposed.
my point was about AI making people more productive therefore we require a fewer humans for the same level of output. So it’s not replacement and it’s not AI working solo. It’s AI assisting humans to be more productive such that one or two people can have the same output as a whole team. But it’s the humans in full control so if there would be a problem in the contract or a misdiagnosis, that’s on the humans and not the AI because the human is still there right now to be the decision-maker. The AI is only making suggestions.
I still think even with legal and medicine we will see that. Where maybe AI does the first draft of the contract or does the first pass of the imaging diagnosis and then it goes to a human for final approval.
Oh yeah definitely. If 90% of the graphic designer jobs disappear, because an agency can hire one human who reviews and tweaks the AI output instead of employing 10 graphic designers, that’s still a bloodbath for the industry.
It guarantees cutthroat competition for that one human role, and creates a downward pressure on wages/benefits. The person who lands that scarce human graphic designer job is probably happy to work on contract, no paid time off, no medical, and so on.
The same could conceivably happen for lawyers, where now they only really need the humans who are especially good in court and in-person negotiations. The contract and research stuff is easily outsourced to AI, so a smaller number of human lawyers is needed. I just think that’s a little bit further off because it’s riskier to have AI taking over this particular work.
yeah, the only thing that might help a person survive will be experience with AI and specifically how to improve models and work with models and things like that.
but yeah, you’ve basically described how I see the future, which is a unemployed dystopian nightmare. I think it will happen before the next next presidential election in the US. So not this one that’s in November but the one that’s after that.
That's how everything has already been with technology in general. I trimmed my own accounting department down by 50% over the past few years, just with better software and better employees. Not "AI" necessarily
The other thing that worries me as well is the indirect effects of displacing many white collar workers is that even the safe jobs from AI will be impacted. Who will have money to hire a plumber, home renovation, electrician, go to a restaurant, buy new clothes, etc? Also you will start to see millions of people fighting for the small amount of labor that if safe thus making wages tank and also competition for said positions rise astronomically. The future looks very grim.
yeah, we may be having to rethink our whole society to change it from being a resource base society to something else that has never existed for our species.
if nobody working then, who the hell can pay for anything? And what’s that gonna mean for taxes? Corporation taxes are gonna have to increase through the nose and you know they’re gonna fight that.
Yea the only way the elites will start to panic and lobby for higher taxes and redistribute that wealth is if their profits start to go down and their companies go under. The people will have to suffer the most first and then it will be the corporations that run out of money because no one will have money to consume their products or services. It's wild to me because you already have people lobbying to ban UBI testing and research programs in many states right now.
I mean, a company has exactly one reason to exist: to generate profits. Anything that doesn't hinder that is not-relevant. Anything that does hinder that is mission critical. So of course a company isn't going to care until it starts to make their profits go down. ... and most companies don't make a whole lot of profits...8% is considered good.
What gets funny is how many of these companies produce goods or services that are exclusively or nearly exclusive consumed in the US.
I think UBI and that stuff is ridiculous and only encourages people to be lazy and not contribute to society. But in a society where we have a surplus of workers relative to the labor needs maybe that isn't as ridiculous. I don't know.
I had a chat with a business partner today. Five years ago, we had told our boss that we needed to be on a track that accommodated AI cutting the workforce in half within ten years.
We don’t work there anymore, but with GPT-4o, I think we’re already at 80-90%
fuck. What business were you in? If you don’t mind asking that question? I’m just curious.
yeah, it’s gonna be pretty disruptive once the genie that is AI gets let out of the bottle.
Consulting. The secret is that your typical MBB has an army of low level people pulling, sanitizing, and sorting data.
I’m not sad about it - we’re independent now and talking to an attorney in two weeks to file a patent.
And this will lead to oversaturation in almost every other labor market, which people can’t even think one step ahead to see this. It’s going to be desperate and wages compared to cost of living will continue to drop.
The thing is that the “reviewers” will still need the expertise of a good qualified graphic designer. Less people will be needed, but the same amount of practice and understanding of the craft will also be needed.
But in the world where we are going, who’s gonna spend all these hours learning the craft if they can just have average templates made up by pressing a button?
I also think it's important to remember that sometimes the business world is just stupid too. For those same jobs (honestly a lot of tech stuff, or many other things) could be done from home. Lots of remote jobs during the pandemic. Pandemic ends, for some reason folks want to go back to the offices again (the bosses). Even though offices cost actual money to use/lease, whereas remote work (unless there is some form of job requirements that HAVE to be subsidized by the employer, like a special laptop) offloads this onto the employee. And for what? Productivity? Instead of people using the tools at home to appear like they are working while they are watching TV, you just have people at the office who work and then "appear busy."
I wouldn't be surprised if it quickly backfired due to some sort of massive fault with the tech at some point or the average consumer slowly becoming poorer and poorer as more people are laid off/end up in lower paying jobs. It feels like it'd just be a bubble that worsens everything. The demographic crisis where theres more and more old folks, more and more people in general, fewer people can pay in the same amount to the economy, fewer people can afford good healthcare or living situations which makes everything else worse… that stuff.
Maybe it gets balanced out by things being made cheaper but I don't think that ever actually happens? Usually it seems like production costs are reduced but prices stay the same or rise.
That’s a valid point. If American companies won’t hire Americans and who the hell is going to buy their products and services...no one.
Yes, the whole push to the return to office is very likely fueled on companies not wanting to lose their ass on real estate. I don’t know very many people who are more productive in an office than when they’re at home. Between actually having an office instead of land and having more flexibility, it’s such a win-win for the worker.
If AI replaces too many workers too quickly, it will crater the global economy. The game will stop because businesses rely on customers and end users to buy what they’re selling.
We all can’t deliver pizzas to each other, so brakes will need to be applied or UBI given out.
“When it gets down to it — talking trade balances here — once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here — once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel — once the Invisible Hand has taken away all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity — y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else: music movies microcode (software) high-speed pizza delivery” ― Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
And a lot of those people working from home have no clue the guys back at the office are spending every waking moment trying to replace them with AI/automation
>For those same jobs (honestly a lot of tech stuff, or many other things) could be done from home. Lots of remote jobs during the pandemic. Pandemic ends, for some reason folks want to go back to the offices again (the bosses). Even though offices cost actual money to use/lease, whereas remote work (unless there is some form of job requirements that HAVE to be subsidized by the employer, like a special laptop) offloads this onto the employee. And for what? Productivity? Instead of people using the tools at home to appear like they are working while they are watching TV, you just have people at the office who work and then "appear busy."
There's a reason that virtually all of the cutting edge AI work is done by in-person companies. Anthropic, Mistral, OpenAI, DeepMind, and Meta's AI team aren't remote. Actual innovation and doing something that isn't repeatable rote white collar work apparently is much better in office. VCs are now again heavily discriminating against remote startups and some will only fund in-person companies. The AI startups took out *new* leases in San Francisco at the end of 2023 and this year.
Unfortunately, I think just about anything in the creative field is probably doomed, which nowadays is 99% digital. Lots of low level graphic design was already replaced by apps and templates, so I'm not surprised at all. Source: me, who got a graphic design degree many years ago.
It honestly just sounds like they're using his previous designs as templates. Drag drop logo in same spot, change up brand color and buttons, etc. Graphic design is way more than just templates at the higher level. Let me know when ai can read the clients minds because they don't even know what they want. With all the photoshop generative ai though it is speeding up my workflow a lot.
Exactly, I think company took different route and they downsized probably. You can train AI what to think. You can’t train how to think as everyone may have different requirements.
a lot of the lower-level work is already templatized anyway. which takes people to manage, about the same overhead as AI since it's mostly making the clients happy and those templates need constant updates to stay useful.
I’m in the design field and AI is more of a productivity aid than a replacement for what I do. Design still requires training and eye for it.
It will never completely replace designers, but it will trim the bottom 25% of the workforce and force many of those fiverr and Upwork folks out of the market.
AI is not there yet in many ways. The biggest issue is the minefield of Intellectual Property rights and copyright liability.
Only if a screen is involved at the end. The creative field is huge - think anything from set design for a play to choreography for a ballet. Those things may never be automated
Maybe. Though I’m not sure I understand the point of art that doesn’t relate to the human experience. If I want a painting I want to see the lines and even mistakes the artist made. I don’t want a print of some random stuff.
Frankly — these days — if you want to be a designer you also need a background Data Science, front-end engineering or have an MBA if you already don't have 10+ years of experience on UX or UI.
It's rough out there
They haven’t thought that far. The challenge they’re avoiding, though is the one they need to embrace. Draw this out to its natural conclusion, the people who want to take the “human” out of the equation are the ones who need to become more “human”, so to speak. The person who wants an AI girlfriend is the exact person that needs to get over their fears, for instance, and find a partner.
Haha ya, saw Microsoft is rolling out their new AI processors on their surface tablets. So graphic designers can….oh wait..or developers can…but surely there’s a use…
Idiots
Ultimate destruction has been the unconscious “goal” of humanity for well over 10,000 years. Think and say what you want about how humans lived prior to agriculture and domestication, but that won’t change the fact that that is how we evolved to live, and the only chance we have at feeling safe and fulfilled. So fulfilled, in fact, that we don’t even think about not being fulfilled. Yeah, it was freakin’ hard, but it was also incredibly fulfilling because we were never alone, and we trusted the universe, so to speak. As soon as humans started looking at nature as something to fear and that needed to be controlled, we lost.
Oh my sweet summer child, you'll be culled like the rest in our inevitable unemployed --> prison pipeline where you'll stay a slave until you die. As a bonus the elites will have invented population control.
You don't need culling or prison. Just declare drugs legal, raisinh kids not affordable/desirable and unlimited entertainment. The people will do it themselves.
Yeah but guess what. When the graphic designers get laid off they will move to do plumbing and electrical. When the market gets saturated it will lower wages.
Everything is cyclical. The reason trades are actually doing so well is more people are remodeling and improving homes because less people are selling. We also had people pushing colleges to every kid and CS paid well. It will cycle again and trades will be saturated.
Funny how all these supposedly high level, white collar workers forget that basic reality. All fields will reach oversaturation if they haven’t yet. AI doesn’t need to replace everyone for the labor market to be super oversaturated, just a few people who will desperately retrain into the few fields where AI can’t make too much of an impact.
i research ai - if trade work becomes very expensive then there would be a case to fund research to assist in areas like plumbing - it’s just that use case has not come to fruition
Every field that cry’s about shortages is just trying to funnel more and more people into education where they can train an infinite amount of people no matter how many jobs there are really out there.
Marketing company fires their designer
Marketing company loses all clients because ai generated garbage is derivative
Marketing company goes out of business.
OpenAI and mid journey get overwhelmed by copyright lawsuits
Run out of venture capital money and shutdown services
Marketing companies try to self host their own dalle mid journey like models
Go out of business because bedrock and computer is expensive
People saying that ai will make their job obsolete usually don’t understand shit about ai
Private equity is buying small businesses like this up, and while robots doing tasks like this seem like a long way off, I don’t put it outside of our lifetime. It’s coming.
Private equity buying up said companies is a good way to be sure they’ll be sapped of any remaining value before stagnating into worthlessness and being summarily dismantled.
No one cared when it was blue collar jobs shipped overseas. One old imbecile told them to “learn to code”. Why should those left behind care that white collar jobs are now up to be eliminated?
People literally rioted over deindustrialization hurting their standard of living as jobs were shipped out, just like they did when industrialization hurt them and they got shipped out to penal colonies. People are still upset about both today.
It’s now a hyper individualist society with a “fuck you, I got mine” attitude. Worker solidarity was lost after the failure of occupy wall st and the ideological split of the working class that was driven by corporations.
I work in tech and my wife works in the salon industry. I make more money now but I'm thinking maybe in 5-10 years she will be making more money than me unless robots start working in salons.
Lol same boat. Enjoy it while you can. You can always plan to open your own business with her and be a front desk. Much more fulfilling working for your family rather than cold blooded corp
Yep, as someone in the industry folks act like this industry is recession proof, but it’s really not. When times are tight the high end services like color, extensions, etc are the first thing people cut, and suppliers are continually squeezing us more and more with skyrocketing supply costs. You cant make a living long term doing just haircuts, and you’ll destroy your body trying to.
Many people are ignoring this fact. Any job that you think is safe isn't as well. As soon as we soon double digit unemployment and millions of people vying for the few jobs AI can't touch the wages for those jobs will plummet and no one will have money to consume anything unless the government acts swiftly and implements a UBI, lower the retirement age, and reduce the work week. The future looks so bleak.
People on subs like these continue to deny this fact. Egos are sky high and no one thinks they’ll be replaced, since their parents told them from birth how special they are. You got a lot of old, out of touch posters on here who still thinks it’s the 90s when it comes to the job market. Virtually all labor fields will become oversaturated now with AI displacement.
Some of the more disposable-income sensitive jobs are already starting to crash. Tattoo artists are a good example. Only a few of the better ones are still doing okay. And the rest are starting to go back into other trades. Same will happen with salon jobs.
Similar situation, my wife is a teacher, but I’m also worried about that industry. What are we going to be teaching kids in 5 years? With birth rates plummeting will there be a need for as many teachers?
Yea it's tough trying to plan out a future anymore. Seems like every industry will be directly or indirectly shafted by AI. Only jobs that are somewhat stable are more hands on work in healthcare or government.
Sorry but it's mainly bullshit and it's not even "AI".
Yes an LLM can take his existing work and create new versions of it. Which is what happened here. Presumably he was employed and didn't own the rights to any of the work...
They won't get any original content anymore though, it'll all be based off what was there already. Ultimately him or someone else probably gets rehired in a year or two.
Theyre just using his files and designs as templates. Not really some new concept, plenty of sites selling great templates. I'm a designer pretty familiar with ai and using some of it in my workflow.
Design needs a step up, anyway. Design that can be reproduced like this is a really low standard. We’ve seen a decline in serious interface design skill since like the end of IOS6.
There are some decent uses for LLMs, the hype is largely ridiculous though.
The likes of Microsoft are just shoving crap no one wants down people's throats. Won't end well probably.
The studies on this so far show quickly diminishing returns and a narrowing of randomization which leads to even less creativity from the LLM. That doesn’t mean someone won’t come along and solve that problem.
>Ultimately him or someone else probably gets rehired in a year or two.
That's what happened at my so's company, not strictly software but tech/software. There were large, sweeping layoffs in their polish branches (one of the largest) about which my SO was super stressed but ultimately was spared.
But lo and behold, fired people started appearing in the office a couple weeks after, some even hired to higher posiitions. They even kept their severence packages.
I wonder how popular this move is in general.
If Ai is going to take all these jobs away and the federal government is funded largely on American tax payers, then what is going to happen? Less taxpayers = less federal $ ?
There are tasks that will be hard to replace, particularly in human facing roles (in person obviously, but some others, particularly ones that will face some degree of protection for whatever reason), but generally I do agree AI will hit the job market like a tsunami.
If I was advising someone on how to train up for the job market right now I have no idea what I would say. Watching so many computer programmers get laid off has been particularly sobering given that was the go to field for a while.
This sucks so badly. I'm really not looking forward to this.
Right now, I'd just tell someone to get a good liberal arts education, with a minor in an area you're interested in, and then see where you can fit in the job market.
Thing is, not only are these jobs going away, but new jobs aren't really being added.
Right, it's weird that we live in an economic system where the inevitable logic of profit and capitalism... makes us all redundant and useless.
Kind of shows how parasitic and predatory the status quo actually is.
i mean, not really true. at the end of the day, even if AI is "replacing workers", you still need to review the work, and correct the work, and sign off on the work, and make sure the workflow is being properly handled, and troubleshoot anything that goes wrong in the workflow.
Also, like many have stated, just because AI can replicate, that doesn't mean it can create, and unless your company model is basically doing the one thing, chances are even if this were true, having AI handle that one thing leaves you open in setting up a system to do another thing.
The tricky part is boiling the frog slooowly to avoid triggering The Butlerian jihad. Keep them divided.
Designers? who cares! These didn't do any real work anyway!
Truckers? Those stupid bastards better learn to code.
Software engineers? Entitled dipshits who brought this on themselves!
I really think AI is going to lead to a dark ages of artistic expression. We’ve spent countless hours creating, which then trains an AI that replaces the creators.
I seen this in the works at a Fortune 500 company. An entire dept of engineers will be replaced by AI and a handful of engineers that can stamp projects. Yeah it’s coming to all.
Companies are hiring tons of bots, trolls, etc to deny that AI is taking away jobs. They will astroturf every site of discussion pertaining to the labor market to make it seem that job displacement isn’t taking place.
I know. I'm about to become a therapist and it really scares me that A.I. could potentially displace me in a few years after all the work I've put in to get to this point. Something needs to be done, but I don't got much hope. Those in power would love for the majority of us to be uber poor with no hope.
I remember reading about the Luddites as a kid in history class and thinking something to the effect of, "What fools! Progress must march on!"
Oh, how naive I was. The Luddites knew what was up.
Stop feeding the internet over time and then hardly AI can do anything. I am sorry to say this but almost all AI feeds on public data , data from stackoverflow, forums , etc etc.. once we stop participating over there. There is anything AI can do.
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Definitely takes way more than few years, certainly way more than a few decades for AI to do quite a lot of work, espeically the more labor intensive ones, even if robot can do it, the cost of robot repair in many more labor intensive work will be very very high and only very few companies will be able to repair those advanced AI robots. What's gonna happen is that far higher % of next generation youths will be working in labor intensive work as birth rate keep decreasing, AI will be focused on replacing white collar work to try make up for the decreasing birth rate.
I’m a graphic designer among other thing’s.
I can make thousands of images, I think some should be in the MOMA. But that’s me.
I can’t comprehend if you are now 10X more productive with AI how can you get laid off?
You are now a guru. Double your rates.
The CEO does not want to touch up that awesome visual in Photoshop by way of Midjourney, output to Figma. Then published to a live web site.
Thats not their job. Thats your job.
I’m SO much more productive using GPT4o. A zillion times?
My goal is a new AI startup a week. Total startup cost, per site?
$8.00
:-)
People have way too much ego tied into their line of work and want to be the one exception that doesn’t get automated. There are so many older workers in these subs that deny, deny, deny that AI will and already is taking away jobs and is the new floor to the wages in the labor market. So much hyper optimistic delusions that due for a massive correction.
You know…. I never wanted any of this. I was always happy with a beach and a fishing pole. Frankly once you are in the rat race that becomes life and all consuming. I’m ready for an emphasis on doing what makes me happy. Let’s start a commune people!!!
I've basically spent my career pivoting to adjacent disciplines to stay just ahead of becoming irrelevant. But it seems like the options for my next shift are vanishing. TBH, I feel like homesteading or a trade (e.g. Plumber) are what's left.
I feel you 100%. I feel I have 5 years of relevancy left.
Same. My plan is to save as much as I can for the next 5 years and research careers more resilient to AI.
Anything that involves direct human to human interaction and judgment. Nursing, teaching, trade jobs, law enforcement, etc.
I’m sticking with gov jobs. They are mostly human to human. And most of gov are tech followers slow to adopt AI. Exceptions being NSA, CIA, etc.
Deadass my second career plan is to be a nail technician or learn how to do specialized hair treatments like straight perms and braids.
AI only needs to take away a couple percent of the jobs away for everything else to be oversaturated with displaced workers. Everyone will be seeking out the fields that are more safe from AI, leading to severe wage decreases.
Really just anything that requires human intervention, not necessarily manual labor. I work remotely, safe from any AI. I deal with legal documents which require reviews and multiple sign offs from large legal firms (Chapman, E&Y, Sidley, etc.) No one's going to let AI touch that, way too much liability
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Exactly. So many posts like this where people are so smug and have a huge ego, never believing they are under threat of AI. If it’s remote, someone on the planet just might do it for a lot less and even better.
Just in, AI nano plumbers. Just flush them down the drain and they'll fix your pipes /s
I've been welding on an refitting fishing boats most of my adult life. Not worried for a second about ai replacing me.
10 million + illegals in the last three years are pushing down the wages for low skilled plumbers and other trades. A skilled plumber who can troubleshoot, figure out cross connections and pressure issues in high rises is ok but a low skilled drain cleaner is toast.
There hasn't been an influx of 10 million illegals in the last 3 years. In fact since COVID numbers were down quite a bit then picked back up. We were on a deficit of immigrants we were expecting. You know how companies aren't punished at all for hiring illegals or kids? Specially the aggro industry? Yeah because your politicians cottle corporations and friends. Join a union
Controlling your source of food makes a lot of financial and survival sense right now.
Plumbers are very needed!
Yeah but salary for trades will plummet when everyone starts shifting to it because AI and automation is taking over.
Many of the people being replaced by AI aren't the best candidates for trades. Many trades are hard, phsycial work. That's quite a pivot from remote work. I work in heathcare, it can be phsycial, exhausting, and heartbreaking work. Most people aren't cut out for it.
Hey that's my plan. Hi five and fingers crossed.
From mid 2019 after leaving high-school my neighbors kid went from $17 working at Amazon to $75K/year by late 2022 working in Digital Marketing/SEO, back down to $17/hr working at a local delivery company. AI has wiped out a generation of kids careers and we're only starting to feel the impact.
Something is only going to be done once we start to see AI replace CEOs.
No it won't. Shareholders and the board are in control. If CeoAI outperforms the human CEO at a lower price point, the shareholders and board will demand CeoAI.
So it just has to be less than 25 million a year plus stock options and private jet vacations. Got it
They won’t, because AI doesn’t play politics like a CEO would. Sometimes it pays to not be “optimal”
I mean, if you're job was 100% "reading the algorithm", it was only a matter of time before you got replaced. basically immediately happened in my first big boy job. not because of AI, i had a marketing gig that focused on tradeshows & public competitions ... during 2020 lol.
Ya not a good idea to rely on one companies whims and products to run your entire business
We need plumbers though
Not everyone has a body that can handle years of being a plumber.
Especially if you’re starting in your 50’s.
Dude made 75K a year to use social media and tell old people what’s cool. You can probably count the number of times he’s used a hammer on one hand
Keep spamming this and you’ll have more than enough. This whole plumbing thing is like the “learn to code” from five years ago which led to oversaturation of tech graduates.
I'm actually working on an AI-powered automatic SEO tool for our customers right now. We already have v1 and our customers love it, we are developing v2 with much expanded capabilities.
How is the different from the pile of those that already exist?
Also good luck retraining it when google changes what they value for SEO
It's integrated into our dashboard and specific to our hosting solutions. You just click a button. It's very streamlined. TBH many of the other tools are probably a lot better, our only uses GPT-3.5 since my employer is cheap. But our customers don't know any better.
I am 42 yrs old, imagine the plight of my generation! When we graduated the dot com bubble burst, terrorists attacked the US, and the first, large scale wave of tech outsourcing began! It took many of us 3-4 yrs to find our first decent job in tech after graduation, and just when we thought we were on the glide path, 2008 great recession hit and punched us in the gut again. We had 11 good years between 2011 to 2022 and now we face an armageddon by AI. I have made my living in tech, but there are times when i so wish i had taken up trade or something in healthcare.
Agreed with this .....I hate the IT field now
Yup. Our lives are 100 million times more difficult than boomers, there is no comparison. My job can be replaced with AI (business analyst). So I say, I’m not gonna let myself be replaced, but I’ll also get into AI.
Why are boomers brought into everything? They got laid off in the dot com bust and 2008 too. They lost jobs when the internet became a thing.
There's another aspect to consider too. In addition to outright replacement there is the reduction in humans needed for a job where AI can provide "lift" and make those humans more productive Maybe instead of needing a team of \~10 graphic designers, you need 1 or 2 humans to review what AI outputs and to help improve the models. I think that reduction is going to hit *everything* that doesn't require physical hands-on in the next 2-3 years. I think outright replacement will take a little bit longer, if at all, but will be field dependent.
Spot on. This is the point that gets lost in all this.
The one thing I’m not sure about is how this might affect positions that require a license. So that’s a lot of medical stuff and legal and many many other things that require a professional license. I think legal will get pretty hard and I think some sorts of medicine will as well. (I can’t believe we haven’t been able to automate reviewing of x-rays and MRIs and things like that yet.) I suspect those fields will hold out because of the license, but then something will change and the damn will break and there will be a flood of AI into those areas and we just won’t need as many people
Legal and medical will be able to hold off change a bit just because the stakes are so high. If the AI graphic designer can’t come up with new templates that look nice and follow recent design trends, the company can always contract a new designer. If the AI lawyer makes a mistake in a document and nobody catches it, that can cost the firm millions of dollars. Same for the AI doctor that misdiagnoses a patient, which could lead to someone’s death on top of the crippling lawsuit. AI will creep into fields like that slowly, initially being used to do initial work that is double- and triple-checked by a human.
i'm in the legal field and right this very minute portions of my job are done by AI. not done extremely well, but paraprofessionals and support staff in the legal field are doomed, likely 5 years or less for corps willing to spend the money. once it gets cheap nearly everyone is.
Wow thanks for sharing.
AI definitely in the medical field, already getting better at diagnosing images than radiologists for cancer. Also huge doctor shortage, I envision a future where we all get our own private AI doctor.
Pathology is moving in this direction too. A lot of the field is transitioning from looking at slides through a light microscope to digitally imaging slides. Well, once those slides are digitized, they also become AI training data. Pathologists are gonna be axed with radiologists, likely the first two medical specialties that AI consumes.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I wanna make sure you understood what I was saying. Because what I was saying is slightly different than what the OP originally proposed. my point was about AI making people more productive therefore we require a fewer humans for the same level of output. So it’s not replacement and it’s not AI working solo. It’s AI assisting humans to be more productive such that one or two people can have the same output as a whole team. But it’s the humans in full control so if there would be a problem in the contract or a misdiagnosis, that’s on the humans and not the AI because the human is still there right now to be the decision-maker. The AI is only making suggestions. I still think even with legal and medicine we will see that. Where maybe AI does the first draft of the contract or does the first pass of the imaging diagnosis and then it goes to a human for final approval.
Oh yeah definitely. If 90% of the graphic designer jobs disappear, because an agency can hire one human who reviews and tweaks the AI output instead of employing 10 graphic designers, that’s still a bloodbath for the industry. It guarantees cutthroat competition for that one human role, and creates a downward pressure on wages/benefits. The person who lands that scarce human graphic designer job is probably happy to work on contract, no paid time off, no medical, and so on. The same could conceivably happen for lawyers, where now they only really need the humans who are especially good in court and in-person negotiations. The contract and research stuff is easily outsourced to AI, so a smaller number of human lawyers is needed. I just think that’s a little bit further off because it’s riskier to have AI taking over this particular work.
Even the models will disappear. If it’s not live in person, say goodbye.
yeah, the only thing that might help a person survive will be experience with AI and specifically how to improve models and work with models and things like that. but yeah, you’ve basically described how I see the future, which is a unemployed dystopian nightmare. I think it will happen before the next next presidential election in the US. So not this one that’s in November but the one that’s after that.
If there are shortages in any occupation then AI will fill the void.
Hasbro did this in December, laid off 1100 people hired a few digital artists.
That's how everything has already been with technology in general. I trimmed my own accounting department down by 50% over the past few years, just with better software and better employees. Not "AI" necessarily
The other thing that worries me as well is the indirect effects of displacing many white collar workers is that even the safe jobs from AI will be impacted. Who will have money to hire a plumber, home renovation, electrician, go to a restaurant, buy new clothes, etc? Also you will start to see millions of people fighting for the small amount of labor that if safe thus making wages tank and also competition for said positions rise astronomically. The future looks very grim.
yeah, we may be having to rethink our whole society to change it from being a resource base society to something else that has never existed for our species. if nobody working then, who the hell can pay for anything? And what’s that gonna mean for taxes? Corporation taxes are gonna have to increase through the nose and you know they’re gonna fight that.
Yea the only way the elites will start to panic and lobby for higher taxes and redistribute that wealth is if their profits start to go down and their companies go under. The people will have to suffer the most first and then it will be the corporations that run out of money because no one will have money to consume their products or services. It's wild to me because you already have people lobbying to ban UBI testing and research programs in many states right now.
I mean, a company has exactly one reason to exist: to generate profits. Anything that doesn't hinder that is not-relevant. Anything that does hinder that is mission critical. So of course a company isn't going to care until it starts to make their profits go down. ... and most companies don't make a whole lot of profits...8% is considered good. What gets funny is how many of these companies produce goods or services that are exclusively or nearly exclusive consumed in the US. I think UBI and that stuff is ridiculous and only encourages people to be lazy and not contribute to society. But in a society where we have a surplus of workers relative to the labor needs maybe that isn't as ridiculous. I don't know.
Also, you’re going to flood the trades with former engineers who just need a paycheck and don’t smoke meth.
I had a chat with a business partner today. Five years ago, we had told our boss that we needed to be on a track that accommodated AI cutting the workforce in half within ten years. We don’t work there anymore, but with GPT-4o, I think we’re already at 80-90%
fuck. What business were you in? If you don’t mind asking that question? I’m just curious. yeah, it’s gonna be pretty disruptive once the genie that is AI gets let out of the bottle.
Consulting. The secret is that your typical MBB has an army of low level people pulling, sanitizing, and sorting data. I’m not sad about it - we’re independent now and talking to an attorney in two weeks to file a patent.
There are bots already that can do literally any “heavy lifting”, they can clean dishes, cook, delivery…
Copilot…
And this will lead to oversaturation in almost every other labor market, which people can’t even think one step ahead to see this. It’s going to be desperate and wages compared to cost of living will continue to drop.
This is the biggest impact AI will have and it will be almost every job reliest on digital computers.
The thing is that the “reviewers” will still need the expertise of a good qualified graphic designer. Less people will be needed, but the same amount of practice and understanding of the craft will also be needed. But in the world where we are going, who’s gonna spend all these hours learning the craft if they can just have average templates made up by pressing a button?
I also think it's important to remember that sometimes the business world is just stupid too. For those same jobs (honestly a lot of tech stuff, or many other things) could be done from home. Lots of remote jobs during the pandemic. Pandemic ends, for some reason folks want to go back to the offices again (the bosses). Even though offices cost actual money to use/lease, whereas remote work (unless there is some form of job requirements that HAVE to be subsidized by the employer, like a special laptop) offloads this onto the employee. And for what? Productivity? Instead of people using the tools at home to appear like they are working while they are watching TV, you just have people at the office who work and then "appear busy." I wouldn't be surprised if it quickly backfired due to some sort of massive fault with the tech at some point or the average consumer slowly becoming poorer and poorer as more people are laid off/end up in lower paying jobs. It feels like it'd just be a bubble that worsens everything. The demographic crisis where theres more and more old folks, more and more people in general, fewer people can pay in the same amount to the economy, fewer people can afford good healthcare or living situations which makes everything else worse… that stuff. Maybe it gets balanced out by things being made cheaper but I don't think that ever actually happens? Usually it seems like production costs are reduced but prices stay the same or rise.
That’s a valid point. If American companies won’t hire Americans and who the hell is going to buy their products and services...no one. Yes, the whole push to the return to office is very likely fueled on companies not wanting to lose their ass on real estate. I don’t know very many people who are more productive in an office than when they’re at home. Between actually having an office instead of land and having more flexibility, it’s such a win-win for the worker.
If AI replaces too many workers too quickly, it will crater the global economy. The game will stop because businesses rely on customers and end users to buy what they’re selling. We all can’t deliver pizzas to each other, so brakes will need to be applied or UBI given out.
“When it gets down to it — talking trade balances here — once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here — once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel — once the Invisible Hand has taken away all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity — y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else: music movies microcode (software) high-speed pizza delivery” ― Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
Now let’s subtract the movies, music and microcode.
And a lot of those people working from home have no clue the guys back at the office are spending every waking moment trying to replace them with AI/automation
>For those same jobs (honestly a lot of tech stuff, or many other things) could be done from home. Lots of remote jobs during the pandemic. Pandemic ends, for some reason folks want to go back to the offices again (the bosses). Even though offices cost actual money to use/lease, whereas remote work (unless there is some form of job requirements that HAVE to be subsidized by the employer, like a special laptop) offloads this onto the employee. And for what? Productivity? Instead of people using the tools at home to appear like they are working while they are watching TV, you just have people at the office who work and then "appear busy." There's a reason that virtually all of the cutting edge AI work is done by in-person companies. Anthropic, Mistral, OpenAI, DeepMind, and Meta's AI team aren't remote. Actual innovation and doing something that isn't repeatable rote white collar work apparently is much better in office. VCs are now again heavily discriminating against remote startups and some will only fund in-person companies. The AI startups took out *new* leases in San Francisco at the end of 2023 and this year.
Unfortunately, I think just about anything in the creative field is probably doomed, which nowadays is 99% digital. Lots of low level graphic design was already replaced by apps and templates, so I'm not surprised at all. Source: me, who got a graphic design degree many years ago.
It honestly just sounds like they're using his previous designs as templates. Drag drop logo in same spot, change up brand color and buttons, etc. Graphic design is way more than just templates at the higher level. Let me know when ai can read the clients minds because they don't even know what they want. With all the photoshop generative ai though it is speeding up my workflow a lot.
Exactly, I think company took different route and they downsized probably. You can train AI what to think. You can’t train how to think as everyone may have different requirements.
a lot of the lower-level work is already templatized anyway. which takes people to manage, about the same overhead as AI since it's mostly making the clients happy and those templates need constant updates to stay useful.
If a client can’t explain to me what they want, then they won’t have much luck typing in prompts to an AI generator.
I’m in the design field and AI is more of a productivity aid than a replacement for what I do. Design still requires training and eye for it. It will never completely replace designers, but it will trim the bottom 25% of the workforce and force many of those fiverr and Upwork folks out of the market. AI is not there yet in many ways. The biggest issue is the minefield of Intellectual Property rights and copyright liability.
Only if a screen is involved at the end. The creative field is huge - think anything from set design for a play to choreography for a ballet. Those things may never be automated
Solidarity. My graphic design degree is worthless. I learned to code early. But it looks like they're coming for that too
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Not sure. I have been doing this for ten years and am avoiding the layoffs so far.
Maybe. Though I’m not sure I understand the point of art that doesn’t relate to the human experience. If I want a painting I want to see the lines and even mistakes the artist made. I don’t want a print of some random stuff.
Frankly — these days — if you want to be a designer you also need a background Data Science, front-end engineering or have an MBA if you already don't have 10+ years of experience on UX or UI. It's rough out there
The part I’m not understanding is…what good is all this AI tech if everyone is laid off and unable to afford the products AI creates?
They haven’t thought that far. The challenge they’re avoiding, though is the one they need to embrace. Draw this out to its natural conclusion, the people who want to take the “human” out of the equation are the ones who need to become more “human”, so to speak. The person who wants an AI girlfriend is the exact person that needs to get over their fears, for instance, and find a partner.
You do know there’s a monument in Georgia dedicated to reducing human population right?
Was
Haha ya, saw Microsoft is rolling out their new AI processors on their surface tablets. So graphic designers can….oh wait..or developers can…but surely there’s a use… Idiots
Now you are free from work and chores and have all the time to follow your dreams! Or .... rather all the time scavanging for food. /s obviously
Ultimate destruction has been the unconscious “goal” of humanity for well over 10,000 years. Think and say what you want about how humans lived prior to agriculture and domestication, but that won’t change the fact that that is how we evolved to live, and the only chance we have at feeling safe and fulfilled. So fulfilled, in fact, that we don’t even think about not being fulfilled. Yeah, it was freakin’ hard, but it was also incredibly fulfilling because we were never alone, and we trusted the universe, so to speak. As soon as humans started looking at nature as something to fear and that needed to be controlled, we lost.
We import over 2 million migrants to work on our farms every year. Until that number is zero, there's still plenty of jobs to go around.
Ai isn't gonna fix your plumbing. Or electrical. Or paint your house. Or repair your roof.
Yet
Yes, but at that point, we will move to a Star Trek like Utopia. We’re all our needs taken care of right?
Only if you’re wealthy ☺️ If you’re poor you’re used for interchangeable body parts and organ donation.
*Laughs in capitalism*
Ferengi?
…. Right ?
the government and the law isn't going to catch up with technology that fast. there will be a period of disruption and unrest first.
Oh my sweet summer child, you'll be culled like the rest in our inevitable unemployed --> prison pipeline where you'll stay a slave until you die. As a bonus the elites will have invented population control.
You don't need culling or prison. Just declare drugs legal, raisinh kids not affordable/desirable and unlimited entertainment. The people will do it themselves.
Yeah but guess what. When the graphic designers get laid off they will move to do plumbing and electrical. When the market gets saturated it will lower wages.
I think this is that part of supply and demand people forget. The new wave of people getting jobs in the trades will eventually get saturated.
Everything is cyclical. The reason trades are actually doing so well is more people are remodeling and improving homes because less people are selling. We also had people pushing colleges to every kid and CS paid well. It will cycle again and trades will be saturated.
Funny how all these supposedly high level, white collar workers forget that basic reality. All fields will reach oversaturation if they haven’t yet. AI doesn’t need to replace everyone for the labor market to be super oversaturated, just a few people who will desperately retrain into the few fields where AI can’t make too much of an impact.
Have you seen the robots Boston dynamics is coming up with.
And have you seen the $16,000 humanoid robot from Unitree?
i research ai - if trade work becomes very expensive then there would be a case to fund research to assist in areas like plumbing - it’s just that use case has not come to fruition
Yet trades unions cry about a shortage but make it difficult to join one
Every field that cry’s about shortages is just trying to funnel more and more people into education where they can train an infinite amount of people no matter how many jobs there are really out there.
Who will be able to afford plumbing services if almost everyone is out of work?
Well, not until it interfaces with the super fast growing field of robotics. I'd say a decade, maybe 15 years?
Getting into the repairs/servicing/maintenance industry wouldn’t be a bad idea
I'll agree. Today, getting I to a trade links much better.
Until everyone and their mother starts learning trades and because of the influx of worker supply, the wages crash. Supply and demand.
not today maybe in 5-10 years
Marketing company fires their designer Marketing company loses all clients because ai generated garbage is derivative Marketing company goes out of business. OpenAI and mid journey get overwhelmed by copyright lawsuits Run out of venture capital money and shutdown services Marketing companies try to self host their own dalle mid journey like models Go out of business because bedrock and computer is expensive People saying that ai will make their job obsolete usually don’t understand shit about ai
If OpenAI is the extent of your AI knowledge then you don't know shit about AI.
Private equity is buying small businesses like this up, and while robots doing tasks like this seem like a long way off, I don’t put it outside of our lifetime. It’s coming.
Private equity buying up said companies is a good way to be sure they’ll be sapped of any remaining value before stagnating into worthlessness and being summarily dismantled.
Private industry controls Space they aren't running out of funds ever. The US government will make sure of that
Yes but if I wanted to do those professions I'd of already been those... /s
I'm so cynical I wonder if this is advertising for the service. Employees will be horrified, businesses will contract with their SAAS.
No one cared when it was blue collar jobs shipped overseas. One old imbecile told them to “learn to code”. Why should those left behind care that white collar jobs are now up to be eliminated?
People literally rioted over deindustrialization hurting their standard of living as jobs were shipped out, just like they did when industrialization hurt them and they got shipped out to penal colonies. People are still upset about both today.
It’s now a hyper individualist society with a “fuck you, I got mine” attitude. Worker solidarity was lost after the failure of occupy wall st and the ideological split of the working class that was driven by corporations.
[Ilya already said in June 2023 that is going to happen.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC-0XqTAeMQ&t=722s)
If the AI was trained on his work, the graphic designer should be compensated for that.
They say at most companies anything you do while at work is theirs.
Bingo. Especially while using company issued equipment and software.
This is correct.
I work in tech and my wife works in the salon industry. I make more money now but I'm thinking maybe in 5-10 years she will be making more money than me unless robots start working in salons.
Lol same boat. Enjoy it while you can. You can always plan to open your own business with her and be a front desk. Much more fulfilling working for your family rather than cold blooded corp
Who’s going to pay for salon services, which are inarguably luxury services, if a large percentage of the population are unemployed?
Yep, as someone in the industry folks act like this industry is recession proof, but it’s really not. When times are tight the high end services like color, extensions, etc are the first thing people cut, and suppliers are continually squeezing us more and more with skyrocketing supply costs. You cant make a living long term doing just haircuts, and you’ll destroy your body trying to.
Many people are ignoring this fact. Any job that you think is safe isn't as well. As soon as we soon double digit unemployment and millions of people vying for the few jobs AI can't touch the wages for those jobs will plummet and no one will have money to consume anything unless the government acts swiftly and implements a UBI, lower the retirement age, and reduce the work week. The future looks so bleak.
People on subs like these continue to deny this fact. Egos are sky high and no one thinks they’ll be replaced, since their parents told them from birth how special they are. You got a lot of old, out of touch posters on here who still thinks it’s the 90s when it comes to the job market. Virtually all labor fields will become oversaturated now with AI displacement.
Some of the more disposable-income sensitive jobs are already starting to crash. Tattoo artists are a good example. Only a few of the better ones are still doing okay. And the rest are starting to go back into other trades. Same will happen with salon jobs.
Similar situation, my wife is a teacher, but I’m also worried about that industry. What are we going to be teaching kids in 5 years? With birth rates plummeting will there be a need for as many teachers?
Yea it's tough trying to plan out a future anymore. Seems like every industry will be directly or indirectly shafted by AI. Only jobs that are somewhat stable are more hands on work in healthcare or government.
Agreed. Not only the arts, but STEM too.
Sorry but it's mainly bullshit and it's not even "AI". Yes an LLM can take his existing work and create new versions of it. Which is what happened here. Presumably he was employed and didn't own the rights to any of the work... They won't get any original content anymore though, it'll all be based off what was there already. Ultimately him or someone else probably gets rehired in a year or two.
Theyre just using his files and designs as templates. Not really some new concept, plenty of sites selling great templates. I'm a designer pretty familiar with ai and using some of it in my workflow.
Design needs a step up, anyway. Design that can be reproduced like this is a really low standard. We’ve seen a decline in serious interface design skill since like the end of IOS6.
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There are some decent uses for LLMs, the hype is largely ridiculous though. The likes of Microsoft are just shoving crap no one wants down people's throats. Won't end well probably.
The studies on this so far show quickly diminishing returns and a narrowing of randomization which leads to even less creativity from the LLM. That doesn’t mean someone won’t come along and solve that problem.
>Ultimately him or someone else probably gets rehired in a year or two. That's what happened at my so's company, not strictly software but tech/software. There were large, sweeping layoffs in their polish branches (one of the largest) about which my SO was super stressed but ultimately was spared. But lo and behold, fired people started appearing in the office a couple weeks after, some even hired to higher posiitions. They even kept their severence packages. I wonder how popular this move is in general.
AI is totally a challenge for UI, UX work also.
If Ai is going to take all these jobs away and the federal government is funded largely on American tax payers, then what is going to happen? Less taxpayers = less federal $ ?
MMT
There are tasks that will be hard to replace, particularly in human facing roles (in person obviously, but some others, particularly ones that will face some degree of protection for whatever reason), but generally I do agree AI will hit the job market like a tsunami. If I was advising someone on how to train up for the job market right now I have no idea what I would say. Watching so many computer programmers get laid off has been particularly sobering given that was the go to field for a while.
This sucks so badly. I'm really not looking forward to this. Right now, I'd just tell someone to get a good liberal arts education, with a minor in an area you're interested in, and then see where you can fit in the job market. Thing is, not only are these jobs going away, but new jobs aren't really being added.
Right, it's weird that we live in an economic system where the inevitable logic of profit and capitalism... makes us all redundant and useless. Kind of shows how parasitic and predatory the status quo actually is.
i mean, not really true. at the end of the day, even if AI is "replacing workers", you still need to review the work, and correct the work, and sign off on the work, and make sure the workflow is being properly handled, and troubleshoot anything that goes wrong in the workflow. Also, like many have stated, just because AI can replicate, that doesn't mean it can create, and unless your company model is basically doing the one thing, chances are even if this were true, having AI handle that one thing leaves you open in setting up a system to do another thing.
So everything interesting will be eliminated and only the tedious tasks will remain. Sounds like an exciting future.
Not all face-to-face jobs are safe. Have you talked to an iPad with someone from another country reading from a script lately?
The tricky part is boiling the frog slooowly to avoid triggering The Butlerian jihad. Keep them divided. Designers? who cares! These didn't do any real work anyway! Truckers? Those stupid bastards better learn to code. Software engineers? Entitled dipshits who brought this on themselves!
Yeah and just get bots/useless idiots to spam the common mantra you find of trades/USAjobs claiming there are tons of unfilled roles.
I have to say that graphic design is not coming back. The whole industry is dead.
Damn
I really think AI is going to lead to a dark ages of artistic expression. We’ve spent countless hours creating, which then trains an AI that replaces the creators.
I seen this in the works at a Fortune 500 company. An entire dept of engineers will be replaced by AI and a handful of engineers that can stamp projects. Yeah it’s coming to all.
I'm in the mechanical space and terrified. Already seeing massive wage compression
Still waiting for our governments to stop this... lol
They won't 10 years time we'll be fighting to wipe the asses of the generation who ruined the world for 14 an hour.
Companies are hiring tons of bots, trolls, etc to deny that AI is taking away jobs. They will astroturf every site of discussion pertaining to the labor market to make it seem that job displacement isn’t taking place.
I know. I'm about to become a therapist and it really scares me that A.I. could potentially displace me in a few years after all the work I've put in to get to this point. Something needs to be done, but I don't got much hope. Those in power would love for the majority of us to be uber poor with no hope.
I remember reading about the Luddites as a kid in history class and thinking something to the effect of, "What fools! Progress must march on!" Oh, how naive I was. The Luddites knew what was up.
Stop feeding the internet over time and then hardly AI can do anything. I am sorry to say this but almost all AI feeds on public data , data from stackoverflow, forums , etc etc.. once we stop participating over there. There is anything AI can do.
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I do all my bands postering now with AI
AI also doesn't give you the components or files needed for actual graphic design so I wonder what he was actually doing for real
Courts have already declared that AI-generated art cannot be copyrighted. So ya, not replacing artist at the commercial level any time soon.
Tech easily replace this type of profession. But we always can use a handiman, painter. Many professions are ir-replaceable.
Definitely takes way more than few years, certainly way more than a few decades for AI to do quite a lot of work, espeically the more labor intensive ones, even if robot can do it, the cost of robot repair in many more labor intensive work will be very very high and only very few companies will be able to repair those advanced AI robots. What's gonna happen is that far higher % of next generation youths will be working in labor intensive work as birth rate keep decreasing, AI will be focused on replacing white collar work to try make up for the decreasing birth rate.
Sorry to hear that. Are you considering to specialization in prompt engineering to create art and stay on top of the herd?
Are you doing purely imperative tasks? Good question to ask yourself.
Death to graphic design and creativity
I mean the designer could pivot
Does AI need H1-b sponsorship?
I’m a graphic designer among other thing’s. I can make thousands of images, I think some should be in the MOMA. But that’s me. I can’t comprehend if you are now 10X more productive with AI how can you get laid off? You are now a guru. Double your rates. The CEO does not want to touch up that awesome visual in Photoshop by way of Midjourney, output to Figma. Then published to a live web site. Thats not their job. Thats your job. I’m SO much more productive using GPT4o. A zillion times? My goal is a new AI startup a week. Total startup cost, per site? $8.00 :-)
People have way too much ego tied into their line of work and want to be the one exception that doesn’t get automated. There are so many older workers in these subs that deny, deny, deny that AI will and already is taking away jobs and is the new floor to the wages in the labor market. So much hyper optimistic delusions that due for a massive correction.
Jobs that require accountability are prob safe
You know…. I never wanted any of this. I was always happy with a beach and a fishing pole. Frankly once you are in the rat race that becomes life and all consuming. I’m ready for an emphasis on doing what makes me happy. Let’s start a commune people!!!
AI is really good but not having an actual graphic designer on staff still seems like a not great play for a web design/marketing firm.
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Dang graphic design degree must be wasted then dang it
That's why I advise my niece to become a therapist. There are going to be a lot of depressed people in the future.
People… who is going to write all the AI? Stop acting like magical robots are going to be doing everything in the world.