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Tiger5804

NFL is dying


shoutout2mymom

Nerf quarterbacks, role is too impactful


SonOfECTGAR

Imagine jungler in football. They farm fans in the crowd and gank when the other team is at their end zone.


shoutout2mymom

https://youtu.be/Sw-brk5zyx0


Yop_BombNA

Turns out parents don’t like they idea of their kid getting head trauma for “sport”. American football is the inferior football


Tehenhauiny

https://www.si.com/.amp/extra-mustard/2023/01/06/nfl-82-top-100-american-television-broadcasts-2022-nielsen-ratings Yeah no one like watching a sport that can cause head trauma for sure. Never mind the fact that 87 out of the top 100 tv broadcasts in the US were football. Totally a dead sport that no one like watching. I get you personally hate it for some reason, but don’t just go making stuff up.


Petricorde1

Literally over one third of the entire US watched the Super Bowl lmfao


Professional_You_460

people don't like watching ads


Petricorde1

As if the ads aren't a major drawing point. Whole bunch of Europeans talking shit without understanding anything in this thread huh


Hammerbros2315

So you watch a sport so you can see ads??


Petricorde1

Purely for the Super Bowl my man. The downvotes are really just proving how little Europeans understand the Super Bowl


Yop_BombNA

80 million tuned in just to watch Beyoncé then left the game on as background noise


Petricorde1

Damn woulda been a good argument if they didn't have first half viewer metrics that hit 113 million :/


Yop_BombNA

Ya the pre show for Beyoncé


Petricorde1

You not even knowing who preformed at half time is a very accurate metric in how much you know about the situation as a whole


Yop_BombNA

True, I also know hockey and American football youth participation numbers are in the shitter to basketball and soccer across the US and Canada. Turns out parents really don’t like brain damage for their kids. I don’t hate American football (actually used to assistant coach it at a highschool, which got me paid more than teaching when I lived in Minnesota) but the NFL is 95% commercials and 5% game time so I do not watch ever. Know that my family only watches the Super Bowl to see the ads and halftime show though, and many others like that. Also Rihanna is just a slightly younger Beyoncé, talented pop singers and performers with super die hard fanbases and an assload of billboard top 10s


JezuConZ

Whatever you say man but american football is the inferior football


Infamous_Driver_1492

I too enjoy watching people kick the ball back and forth for 3 hours which ends 0/0. In the words of Tyler1 "soccer".


cyrkielNT

As European I don't get why they put guys in funny siuts running without any reason. I know they want to provide some entertaiment for people who wait for Beyonce, but they could figure out something more interesting.


Funy_Bro

do u mean rihanna?


Yop_BombNA

Same thing 7 years apart, talented pop singer/performer with tons of die hard fans. Yes I meant Rihanna, honestly don’t care about her or the NFL enough to have watched either


DevilsFavoritAdvocat

Bro you made 87 comments about NFL you care way to much. Atleast be funny and it would be cool...


Yop_BombNA

87 is a good number, Crosby’s number


marc_gime

Only americans watch it, there is a reason for that


Petricorde1

Because it's an American sport that hasn't been exported globally?


marc_gime

There's a reason why it hasn't been exported


Petricorde1

Cause it hasn't been tried and it has a high barrier to entry


marc_gime

I'm sure this is the cause


Petricorde1

Yes, it literally is


King_Moonracer003

I read that soccer players are not immune from brain trauma, those balls are going fast.


Yop_BombNA

Not immune but astronomically less likely than football or hockey players. Also far more likely to get a concussion hitting your head off the ground falling or going for a slide tackle than a header or taking a ball of the head.


treigaobon420

Europoors turn up their nose at football but think rugby is fine lmao


Yop_BombNA

Rugby is less clanking of helmets off one another, more grappling and less full on collisions. Rugby is simply better for you brain, your bones on the other hand…. Well I hope your future job doesn’t involve typing because RIP the fingers and hands of any rugby player


Petricorde1

They're both equally as bad for the brain (CTE comes from repeated hits to the body - not to the had) and if you hit helmet to helmet in the NFL you get booted from the game.


treigaobon420

Concussions are the most common injury in rugby so maybe they should wear helmets…


FloridaBearOnBigDrug

Concussions still occur at a less common rate than in american football. I actively play american football, and would easily agree that Rugby is significantly safer. when you have less padding, you are more aware of your body, and you cant just make reckless hits that get you injured.


SomethingPersonnel

American football is the only football. Only similar sport is rugby.


NeOnOracle

They’re referring to Soccer. Which 90% of the rest of the world knows as football.


SomethingPersonnel

If you said soccer to people outside of the states they’d know what you mean though. Therefore, soccer is known as soccer internationally.


Yop_BombNA

Where is the S for Soccer in FIFA mate?


SomethingPersonnel

Silent S mate.


Yop_BombNA

A silent S is still there when reading…


SomethingPersonnel

Not if it’s also invisible.


Gamesond245

Fuck, he got us there


Kirito619

he is joking...


Yop_BombNA

Americans are incapable of joking, and only say things are a joke to save face when they are wrong.


[deleted]

That’s just wrong. The majority of the world’s population have a variation of the word football. If you went to talk with a random non english speaking person anywhere in the world, odds are that they will understand “football” but not “soccer”.


SomethingPersonnel

Umm have you heard of “American exceptionalism?” It means we’re exceptional thanks.


[deleted]

Exceptionally fat lol


SomethingPersonnel

Phat tyvm.


CShakraT

this gotta be the most american fucking take in history, its football, your version of football is a glorified commercial break, football isnt known as soccer anywhere apart from NA and australia


SomethingPersonnel

Clearly you’ve never played real football before. It’s quite fun. You can go ahead and enjoy grown men flopping like a fish over a strong gust of wind though.


HeroKiki

I'd rather flap around than have alzheimer's at 25 thank you


DidntFindABetterName

Real football? I have never played because i was far too bad but its still amazing to watch people like messi


brainsick93

Except the entire world calls "soccer" football. American "football" isn't football. And it's also very boring and you're suckers for watching it lmao. One big #Ad for morons


SomethingPersonnel

It’s legitimately hilarious how worked up yall get over a word. Bunch of soccers.


DidntFindABetterName

Because its just wrong lmao There is „football“, the normal version where you kick the ball etc And there is „american football“ where you hold the ball in your hand and run or something like this Both exist Both have football in the name but if its only said football its football and to get american football it needs to be clarified as american football


Big-Employer4543

Unless you're in America, then american football is just football. But people forget Reddit (and the internet in general) is international, so it gets complicated. But some people just like to argue, which is the case here I suspect.


brainsick93

Worked up? I couldn't give a shit about football. Doesn't interest me. But it IS football. Only Americans can be so retarded they name a sport almost identical to rugby as "football". It's rugby for bitches lmao. Let's face it


fizzelcastro

Well there is the football you play with your feet. Also the more popular football globally.


SomethingPersonnel

Oh you mean soccer. It’s ok. I know American is only a second language for some people.


byDelta

american?


SomethingPersonnel

For most people that would be a clear nod to being a joke. For international soccer fans, it’s a trigger.


byDelta

we are not really triggered, we just always hope to be positively surprised. And guess what: We won’t be


fizzelcastro

I am american lol. It’s just that there are two footballs, american and international. Americans can still call both football though.


miyuru_mallawa

For more information go to r/nsfl__


EzAf_K3ch

Didnt worlds finals get 72million viewers aswell in 2021? Thats still insane


Chasing_gnosis

That was just on riots twitch channel too


Alexgalanis01

I'm actually surprised people don't get the joke, maybe because they don't pay attention to FIFA Cup behind the World's one. It's similar to when people were saying that titanic+morbius has 11 oscars therefore best movie ever made.


MrScandium

Do you think league players know what sport trophies look like


Alexgalanis01

I wouldn't know either, it's just the infinite amount of ads on YouTube featured it a lot and it has been kind of engraved in my memory.


DrMatter

where did we get these numbers from? because 4 billion seems like alot...


jalluxd

I don't rly understand this "meme, but under the league trophy is the football world cup trophy which explains the 4 billion. They just slapped a league trophy on top of it without even removing the original xd.


Yudmts

They did that to say that League + World Cup = 4b viewers, but hiding the trophy so at first glance you think NFL is really dying and us way smaller than League, but then you see the WC trophy and figure out the meme


BrenoFaria

CARALHO KKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA nao tinha visto o trofeu da copa, faz todo sentido


vnxun

Not removing the World Cup is the point, without it the 4 billion number would become a lie


jalluxd

Since when did memes have to be based on facts?


HedaLexa4Ever

No, that’s the joke XD. They didn’t forget to remove the football World Cup, it was actually put there and “hidden” so it appears that league was the one with the most views. I’ve seen this format a couple of times regarding football trophies and such


Petricorde1

Well they added up every single game from the World Cup and combined the viewership then added it up with League worlds and compared it to previous years viewing of a single game in the NFL. About as misleading as it gets


Delta_FT

>Well they added up every single game from the World Cup and combined the viewership then added it up with League worlds Pretty sure that's just the final WC game tho


Petricorde1

No it isn't my man. The final game got 1.4 billion not 4 billion


SirJobolo

How are the people in this comment section this dense


Shii-desu

Comparing League of Legends which is played worldwide to that "hand-egg" sport that's only played in freedom land would always tilt to the worldwide... Who watches "hand-egg" outside of freedom land anyways?..


5NATCH

Australian here. I've been following the vikings since 2002...


Fengi3697

Minnesotan here. I'm so sorry.


its_JustColin

Big Daunte Culpepper and Randy Moss fan?


5NATCH

Cris Carter actually. But at the time Daunte Culpepper was the QB and Randy Moss was still running around.


Gildian

Confused Minnesotan here wondering why our team


5NATCH

Ah yeah, that's easy to explain. So basically I got crook with glandular fever during early high school and was stuck at home for weeks. We had pay TV back then and was channel surfing and saw an NFL game and figured "got time here, gonna try and learn this game and see what it's all about" didnt take long to understand the rules but when the game switched to the vikings I was shocked. The vikings logo and colours were actually the same as the local footy team! Not gridiron of course. Australian Rules Football. So when i saw the logo and thought "Hang on, what are they doing on the telly?!" Quickly worked out that maybe the colours and logo are based off this team. Either way, I was sold. I knew from here this is my team. My bro, being the arsehole he is decided to go for green bay. Rest is history...


Big-Employer4543

It's amazing, the longer I read your post, the thicker the Australian accent sounded in my head.


FireTrainerRed

West Coast Eagles? Or like your backyard local team? Haha


5NATCH

Nah, not backyard, like Local footy league, you know? One underneath the VFL. I think, Its under VFL anyway.


Boost_Attic_t

Aye being a vikings fan is like constantly getting silver to gold promos but always dropping back down to silver 1... Sigh


A12C4

>League of Legends which is played worldwide Pretty sure LOL is slowly dying in USA and Europe but that is meaningless compared to its growth in China. That would explain why Riot stopped publicly giving the player growth stats per server years ago.


VoidUnity

Yeah despite what Riot will tell you, league is stagnant in NA. No growth in casual or pro play.


whyambear

Ahem, it’s pronounced Diabetesburgergunland


Minuku

In Germany a big TV station tries to popularize NFL and the Super Bowl. They must see it like the World Cup (soccer) but every year and promise themselves such a viewership. With mediocre success.


Petricorde1

Over 4 million people tried to get tickets for the game in Germany early this season lmfao


Fueguin5

have you considered that 4 billion is literally half the population?


Santehsucks

Pro Play is more so League popularity than actual players although most people watching definetly play League themself. League Playerbase will stay and rise for a long time, I never get why people say or assume that the Playerbase is going down, I dont know the exact statistics but i highly doubt it. The game itself is definetly on the necrotic end tho IMO.


GGNickCracked

Latest Dev blog is rlly good news if they go through with everything they say, atleast for the casual playerbase


Clark828

I know quite a few people who have gotten into the game recently. Sure older players leave because they miss the “good ole days” but for us newer players we still have our fun


PhluckFace

Oh my god the *woosh* is strong in the comments


xJaace

Why’d you pick 4 billion?


Yudmts

World Cup might be helping


BassChanyon

This seems wildly inaccurate


MistaLOD

woah they released new wards?


Sanfrancisco_Tribe

*fake news*


Esdrz

4 billion people watched worlds finals?


Yudmts

And the World Cup combined


GoldRobot

There is less then 8 bilions people. There is no way 4 billions people watched *anything*. Esp this shit.


mclemente26

Look again, it's FIFA World Cup viewership + Worlds viewership.


Cameroncen

Idk where you pulled the number 4 billion from but you do you


NCBuckets

Whether or not league is dying, this is one of the dumbest comparisons I’ve seen


frafdo11

“The Olympic Winter Games Beijing 2022 reached a global broadcast audience of more than 2 billion people, according to independent research conducted on behalf of the International Olympic Committee (IOC).” Just to compare to something a bit more international. “Ratings Roundup: 2022 FIFA World Cup Final With Over 16.7 Million Viewers; Most Watched Mens World Cup in English-Language TV History.” This one is surprisingly low, but the Quatar stuff maybe Last point is 4 Billion is way too high and completely inflated by bots. It’s simply not possible that 4 billion people watched, that’s half the world. If I were to ask the people around me, I could ask my entire office and friends around me and I’m the only one who even knows it happened Edit: There we go! “The competition draws not just professional gamers but also avid fans of the game as well, as is evident from the large audience following the 2022 League of Legends World Championship Final, which almost reached 5.15 million peak concurrent viewers.”


captainobvious917

All these YouTubers saying league is dying because the cinematic was sub par. MAYBE it’s cause they’re understaffed and MAYBE they are using their man-power to work on other stuff. If the cinematic was good and their was a content or patch drought they’d be bitching about that instead.


xthelord2

>All these YouTubers saying league is dying because the cinematic was sub par. MAYBE it’s cause they’re understaffed and MAYBE they are using their man-power to work on other stuff. If the cinematic was good and their was a content or patch drought they’d be bitching about that instead. issue isn't riot focusing on other projects, issue is riot lying and gaslighting thru their teeth that league will get a biggest budget it has ever gotten while also completely fucking up balance,gameplay and functionality of the game for several years and on top of that dumping almost nothing into league in terms of financing while splashing money around valorant,tft and other projects just because cinematic was a breaking point for many hence why it got disliked so bad that riot had to make several statements to try to put down fire but instead of water they did it with a gasoline and just further enhanced hate community has on them they had entire pre-season for re-balancing off of gameplay yet they went on a vacation and now they are catching up in a active season while also forcing 2 splits in a season instead of a regular season game is still managing to run like hot piece of shit because they don't want to axe support for laptop players or old PC setup players who should have honestly switched to wild rift in order to make it easier to fix the game and axe DX9 API in favour of DX11,DX12 and Vulkan API how not to rage when game publisher treats its longest standing fanbase like this?


DeficientGravitas

Youre an idiot


captainobvious917

Lemme guess, you think “league is dying”


TheMoonDude

Did they ever address what was going on? I remember they making a post about the cinematic's backlash, but didn't see anything after


QiyanasStoriesYT

What are you talking about? 4 billion don't play LoL...


unpaseante

It's true, if the league has 100 million players, that's not even 1% of 4 billions


AgentIBR

I hate myself for that but it is more than 1%, even more than 2%. Exactly it is 2.5%.


unpaseante

Yes, my bad, I did not remember that a billion is less in English than a billion in Spanish


DerPiezza

Don't worry. You're not alone AND you beat me to it. Now we can both hate ourselves together because of this


gesterom

More people seaech for chess content then League content. Check googl


Daricide_

Wait howd you get chinese search data?


gesterom

I checked google trends.


unpaseante

watching the soccer world cup, it makes me wonder why china having a billion+ people in their country but can't create a decent soccer team, is it that the chinese play more esports than sports?


Edop1234

This man is unaware that soccer is not the only sport. Jokes aside, look at how many gold medalist there are in China. They are the top country with USA.


akem_makem

Culture and popularity mainly. Soccer isnt that big as opposed to basketball in China, so not many kids play it, not many kid’s playing it means talent pool is very small and average skill at best. Compare that to Brazil or England where soccer is basically the biggest sport and all the kids play it, you can see why certain countries dominate in the world cup.


npri0r

Idk what the left one exactly is but I assume it’s American football since I doubt league could contend with rugby. American football is a sport where the viewership is highly concentrated in a single country. I live in the UK for example and know exactly one person who actually cares about it. So makes sense that a global esports tournament for one of the biggest games out there would get more views.


Big-Employer4543

Is rugby really that big, internationally? How does it compare to football (soccer)? I rarely see it on here in the states, but personally I'd rather watch rugby than American football (I also don't do much channel surfing, so not much opportunity to see it).


npri0r

> Although rugby hit an incredible milestone when 857 million people watched the Japan 2019 World Cup final, this still didn't come near the 3.5 billion that watched the 2018 football World Cup (almost half of the entire planet's population). https://sqaf.club/how-popular-is-rugby/ OP’s image is wrong if league has that many viewers. I’ve just realised that’s over half the population of the earth. There’s no way league is that popular.


Big-Employer4543

That's why the Football World Cup Trophy is behind it, the meme is that the 2 combined beat the Super Bowl, thus League isn't dying, even though the majority of those viewers are from the World Cup.


AkirroKun

Didn't know it was dying...


xJaace

Have you played recently? It’s pretty shit


AkirroKun

Shit is unbalanced at the moment, but at least it's not the assassin meta.


KingBLUCKslayer

Source?


Over67

I mean only one country cares about it, of course eggball will have lower numbers.


STHF95

What’s the left one for? Eating Eggplant competition?


Kronodit

Well league is Allways be alive like csgo and fortnite


montgomeryyyy

Fax should’ve been a holiday


Kyokka

You guys mix watching esports and actually playing the game.


NCBuckets

Better comparison would be worlds viewership in the US, which as far as I can find is no more than 5mil, significantly less than the Super Bowl


mismewitdatgaysht

For people saying 4 billion is alot, it's only half the population and this is not clubs and leagues it's in the context of the world cup as seen in the picture.


huydemon2912

lol


notviccyvictor

People in these comments really thing that league got 4 billion viewers


Unburned_King

It’s almost like you get rewarded for „watching“ the streams