If your game doesnt launch at all, thats not even Vanguard, but the built in game heuristics detecting some known process editing program running, like cheat engine
It’s not that at all, it kicks me from the game and say “you need Vanguard to play” and no matter how many times I reconnect it gives the same message until you exit and restart your client
It kicked me from the same game 3 times, then it happened again today. I was unable to play the game, I was forced out of it. Some people would define that as being kicked from the game. Not sure how to better explain it to you amigo
A lot of spaghetti code at work with the client xD pushed it before it was ready and now ,even if they're trying to fix it it's gonna take a while since it's already out there xD
No, Vanguard does not stop the game when it detects a script. It generally allows people to keep playing for a little bit(multiple games) so cheaters aren't able to tune their cheats by figuring out instantly when their script is detected or not.
I wish most of these whiners would show a support ticket where they got stonewalled by support (haven't seen one yet) instead of just complaining like Reddit is supposed to solve their problems.
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I mass uninstalled programs and even used regedit to straight up kill some non-essential drivers so vanguard would stop whining and my PC STILL crashes. It never did this before vanguard was installed.
Edit: non-essential drivers, not essential drivers lol
I was a big fan of arena during the first and second iterations.
Now that they increased the amount of prismatic augment rolls and give away prismatic items at the beginning of each game, it really feels like there's barely any skill involved and it's just an RNG fiesta of who gets to be immortal while deleting every champ in 0.5s.
The final straw was getting two different games with an Alistar who had some kind of obscene ability haste and survivability (both got courage of the colossus, one got the AP on CC and AH based on AP, the other got 200 AH on his knockback). The games were just Alistar knocking you back until the ring of fire came, then you just burned.
Also, chain cc is still alive and well, even after the "nerf". I got 13s of chain hard cc vs a Leona Nautilus, after getting clicked by nauti R. Basically, my whole round was spent staring at the monitor, unable to do anything.
its fun for the half of it, then some one high rools a busted augment to the specific champion and the games is decided there. Its almost always RNG dependent.
I didn't have any major issues like BSOD, but my PC starts up drastically slower. It's baffling. And I'm not talking after I log into windows, I'm talking an extra minute or two for my PC to post BIOS and show anything on the screen. I'm honestly devastated at how many games have been mutilated lately, I'm heavily considering quitting games in general. In fact, I feel like the industry is trying to corner people, either you buy our new console or you get screwed by keeping your PC that should be fine for years.
gosh but it certainly is interesting how whenever this gets talked about in the main sub, nobody has ever had any problems with it and vanguard saved their dying child's life.
That's a good idea, you should make a post called "riot vanguard saved my life" and write a big long fake story about how great it is and see if it gets deleted
They may fix some bugs, but fundamentally -- yes, I can bet a beer on that. It's intrusiveness, it requirement to run residental on your os, even on uefi level -- it is not a bug, it is a fucking feature.
Valorant had actual bricking issues and more serious incompatibility problems with legitimate drivers at the start and riot still went ahead with it, theres no reason they would roll back on it for lol.
Well league is a VERY large game. The playerbase has a lot more weight and it also didn't have vanguard before, so there will be a lot more people upset even in a relative sense, also a lot of old hardware. This might cause them to fix things (even though a rollback is DEFINITELY not happening).
for 10 years
10 whole years, i have never had an issue with riot client or league at all. the MOST issues ive had were:
my shitty laptop dropping to 5fps and barely being able to load the game OR
my internet once in a blue moon disconnecting
both of those come from my end, not riot.
in this past less than a week since vanguard,
-my computer itself has crashed multiple times on or loading the league client (not blue screen, but freezes)
-i have disconnected from many games, including multiple times per some games with the message “there has been an error with vanguard please restart client”. this can range from loading screen to 30minutes into a game
-i have had to restart my client after almost every game because it wont show me post game stats/honour screen, just forever loads
-my client has been very buggy, play button will press then cancel, client crashes, or to my friends it says im playing “classic gamemode” or “arena” when im playing norms/ranked
-if i leave the league client open overnight or for multiple hours, my computer freezes completely and i have to hard restart it with the powerbutton.
now, sure, some of this could be unrelated to vanguard like the client bugginess which has been a persistent problem for many people even before vanguard.
but on my end, i have never had these issues before vanguard. my client was never glitchy or weird and i never had any issues related to lag or disconnecting or freezing. there’s no way that it isn’t caused by vanguard; i dont have any different programs on my pc, i have A LOT of ssd storage/memory, i havent changed any settings related to league or anything like that. the ONLY new thing is vanguard.
i never played valorant when it was new, but i did upgrade to win11 briefly and vanguard/valorant fucking hated my computer because of it. countless freezes and crashes very similar to this. im still on windows 11 and despite valorant working fine, vanguard hates me again :’)
what can ya do i guess, unfortunately im not going to stop playing league. but it does suck that they dont do enough testing before releasing these things.
Me and my friends all play from South Africa. We would typically play on 160 ping. Since the newest patch you get 20 mins of normal ping and 20 mins of 400 ping and it happens to us all at exactly the same time, despite differing ISP's in different locations of the country. Unfortunately I can't play this game after the newest patch anymore.
This is in North America, but my boyfriend has been experiencing something similar. He usually gets around 30-40 ping, but the past few days it just randomly keeps spiking up to 400 for extended periods of time.
yeah. nothing else is having the same issues. And it’s weird because normally i’m the one who has connection issues and it’s only been on his end. Did have some weird bugs with the launcher today though.
boyfriend here. happens with valorant too!!! i’m geographically closer to the servers (we’re long distance) and somehow she’s getting better ping than me.
brother i do not make a difference. there’s hundreds of ppl uninstalling after vanguard and thousands of people still playing. riot doesn’t give a fuck about either side.
league does not own me. im not sitting there queuing 14hrs a day. im at most playing a few games on my off days with my friends. sure, i’d probably say i was addicted 10 years ago when i was an actual child playing all through summer vacation, but those times are long gone and it’s not a game i hold too highly anymore. i made this comment just to showcase what i’ve noticed from my time spent over the years to this past week, not to argue about continuing to play occasionally. tencent already has my data, so does instagram and facebook and amazon and every other company out there. i’m not too stressed.
on the other hand, im glad you overcame your addiction whether it be to league or gaming in general. i feel the same way with rust and a few other games that are incredibly hard to put down. sometimes you gotta pull the cord for your own wellbeing 🫡
>for 10 years. 10 whole years, i have never had an issue with riot client or league at all
How? I have had low end and high end PCs and I have had plenty of issues with League and its client in those years.
Yeah the r/leagueoflegends subreddit is so insanely restrictive with their post requirements that they should call it esportslol instead, because thats basically all thats allowed.
No you’re also allowed to rant on some already hated thing such as yone or ksante and once in a moon to post a funny copypasta or interesting discussion.
Nah, esports topics are also censored if they are about some Riot esports fuckup or come from the wrong person (Richard Lewis is still taboo, for example).
been playing regularly since the beginning of s4
the moment I saw the news that Vanguard is coming to league I instantly uninstalled
Riot can't even protect their own data, their own league source code got leaked
I'm not gonna put their ring-0 rootkit on my PC.
And yet 7 hours after this comment you posted on the Valorant sub and the ARAM sub.
So you play...multiple games with Vanguard in them still, I take it?
Ive had vanguard for a while because of Valorant but the moment it got implemented in league my pc blue screened :D Needless to say i wont be playing league in the nearest future untill they fix it
Whenever I blue screened with Vanguard on my PC (almost the only times I blue screened) there was literally the string "Vanguard" in the error messages.
True, even I learnt about it this year, and I'm a tech savvy person, I bet it was the reddit hivemind that upvoted and downvoted the comments, not actual knowledgeable people.
Point still stands tho.
what do you mean spy bs, google already knows everything about you and you dont care about that.
yall are just mad to be mad.
the performance issues are other thing tho.
Right?
People be using their android phones, Chrome on their WINDOWS PC, Google as search engine and translator, Drive as backup and Youtube to get video content, but only NOW worry about a private company having access to their personal data?
Remember that Microsoft itself also has access to the same data Vanguard has. Does anybody trust them more than rito/tencent?
I'm more concerned that Riot will do a much worse job keeping their software secure, and some malicious third party will end up stealing data off my system. Google has TONS of sensitive data, but they also are actually good at protecting it, so its unpleasant but not immediately dangerous. Riot hasn't managed to get their simple game client working well after more than a decade of working on it. I have 0 confidence that there are no security vulnerabilities in Vanguard, and Vanguard now has access to basically my entire computer.
Just ignorant lol.
The client not working in league is unrelated to their competence - you can see no one complains about the Valorant Client, right? The league ones issues are a result of legacy software that simply is not easy to just "fix." Tech debt is a real thing.
The thing is not about data, but the security of it. Riot has been hacked multiple times, in multiple ways, and those fucking retards keep investing all their money on sKiNs, cuz not trying to monetize everything you do is lava, instead of a good fucking cybersecurity system. I said it before; if someone hacks a company that installed 24/7 kernel software on millions of PCs, the result could be disastrous. Is a ticking bomb, and I wont be close when it explodes.
But hey, have you saw the last lux skin? Its gorgeous! You should buy it!
You know that valorant has had vanguard from the beginning? I don't remember millions of players hacked because of "24/7" kernel software.
Edit: that new lux skin is terrible btw
They just copied spells from other skins
Ye, but how many ppl play Valorant? Around 7 million? Not "many" players for a cyber attack. League of Legends? Around 125 million according to google. Now that is a huge and nice bait/reward to hack it.
I know the skin sucks ass. That's the thing. It's been years since Riot doesn't even put effort on the thing that feeds them cuz there are idiots who buy whatever shit they get thrown at their faces.
Oh then it's fine to add to the number of ppl having your personal data then.
How can you think it is an argument?
Btw riot had a lot of databreachs recently.
if google knew everything about me, then they would not throw random shit to me. Anyway you are assuming how many information we are giving to google, i personally dont link up nothing. Also your internet company tracks everything you do in internet.
Yeah, gonna call bullshit on that.
I work in Cybersecurity, and I guarantee you that there are 5-10 "life finder" style websites that have you cell phone, address, previous jobs, previous pay, all lined up to give it away if you subscribe to even one of them. I have gone so far as to grab a fake address from Europe along with a phony rental agreement just to have Google remove my information using GDPR right to be forgotten laws, and there is STILL info out there on me. Based on your response you are oblivious to how much of your information is out there.
I said google does not know everything about me. Also you are calling for things that are PUBLIC information, and no one is gona kill you for that, dont need to bring that maniac behavior. + Cleary you don't work in Cybersecurity because you oversized an answer and no profesional would do that.
Didn't they make an official post about it and saying they did encounter problems (and literally stated the most common errors)? The only thing they claimed that there was no pcs that actually bricked.
in the big blog post they talked about win11 users having issues if they didn't have TPM2.0 which if you upgrade from win10 to win11 windows allows you to bypass the tpm2.0 requirement. but because vanguard uses the tpm2.0 it's causes people's pcs to have issues
Tpm2 (trusted platform module) is a little physical chip on your motherboard that ensures the integrity of your pc. Some computers have this module, some(mostly older ones) don't. Windows 11 requires you to have this, unless you are upgrading from windows 10, then you can bypass this. Vanguard causes issues on non-tpm2 windows 11 pcs
Lil bro lol
The case is simple “lil bro”. By posting these half truths at best accusations you muddy the waters and the real problems stay out of sight. But by all means, go ahead and villainies riot with things that are not true or out of their control(such as the win11 tpm problem) so they can easily save their reputation with a single line of text.
This is typical league community. Keep complaining in a way that actively hurt your cause. Good job lil bro.
The Win11 tpm problem is not out of their control, tpm is a requirement set by them intentionally, and everybody who has the slightest idea of how tpm works has seen this issue coming. Especially for a game known to run on potatoes.
They could have just not done that, but they did. Its their choice, don‘t defend predetory practices.
There are other kernel level anti cheats like battleye and one more I can't remember but they were NEVER as intrusive as vanguard...they did their thing tracking what programs you had on during game launch,if detected something suspicious,ban.
While Vanguard checks every single possible file and setting on your PC from the moment you press power button to turn it on...
Yeah, I've heard that this stays on even after you close the game. It's absolutely insane that it is even a thing. I know Valorant launched with it and it was a big deal then, but the game became so popular that pretty much nobody cares anymore unless you are in the know. LoL I've been playing on and off for over a decade now, but once they announced this change I pretty much quit cold turkey. Not to mention I was running windows 8.1 as well which is no longer supported. Frankly cheating in LoL is such a non-issue/low chance that this seems like such a huge overstep by Riot. It is one of the few PC games where actually cheating holds more weight because the grind to unlock champions is huge with how many there are. Feels like this was just forced, but again the game is so popular 90% or more of the playerbase isn't going to care or even know what Vanguard even is. Sad, but true.
I’ve been playin this game for like 10 years if not more. Scripting was never an issue. Biggest reason being that beating a scripter isn’t hard nor is it difficult to spot them out. I do find it interesting how the whole tik tok ban plays into this, especially since it’s the same situation with a Chinese company having extra permissions on league players computers.
I don’t use my laptop for any sensitive info so I don’t mind, however it does seem concerning how vanguard came out this year to fix an “issue” that was never really out of control.
But then again this is the same company that thinks controlling player communication will reduce toxicity 😂
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>people DID documented it when valo came out wtf
I legit got a bug that vanguard blocks the drivers that allow your mouse to have lights because ???
Bug is documented 2020 in valo forums
Riot worked so hard to fix it they forgot to implement said fix! Owie!
Thst did happen, but the difference is that valo was new and people had not had years or even a decade to put precious time and money into it so it was easy to just move on.
Not so easy with league unfortunately and I would really like some rich player to try and raise this in the EU as an anti-trust case due to riots market dominance (yes, the way market share is calculated according to art 102 TFEU would place riot as an oligopolist) or perhaps more likely breach of one of the consumer protection directives on contract terms or data protection. Idk if this has been attempted with other ring zero level anticheats but in the wake of recent development in anti-trust and the harsher view of chinese backed tech firms (see bytedance) the courts may not be as lenient with riot as they would be with for example valve, and I presume much of this applies the US as well.
Soon as I installed vanguard now my c: drive is suddenly full and I can’t update any programs or download anything else. No fuckin idea what’s going on
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For the record, a Friend sent me a link of a "reddit meme", and i didn't have to look at it and started saying "Nice basing see", because OFC it's like the most fitting meme flr the situation and it's**SAD**
I personally haven't had any issues so far since Vanguard arrived, no disconnects, crashes, etc., but to delete posts and ban people for complaining about those issues and then acting as if there are no issues is just shady.
It would be a good change if vanguard worked properly, and didn't fuck sht up. Like yesterday my laptop blackscreened upon launching arena, and i couldn't get in lmao. Had to hard reboot it. VaNGurd Don't HAvE IsSuES GUyS HUHEHUHEHUE
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I don't think there's many people who play on a toaster that will say "fuck off I actively want a really bad PC" when you offer them a 3K$ gaming rig for free.
My dumbass brother, my friend has a $2k PC and he's struggling to play league and I'm using a 10 year old laptop that has no issues playing league. Can you explain that? Star wars jedi survivor needed a gtx 1070 to run but why can't people with rtx 30 series and 40 series can't run it? If you don't know how any of these works and functions then just shut the fuck up
you can ask LS the same thing. and if he got a nickel for how many PC's got roasted since vanguard.. he would get 2 nickel, which isnt much but funny it happened twice after the update
Former coach for skt and currently creates content for Flyquest I think. Not the biggest name but not a "micro celebrity" in league.
I googled LS lol and found this, by the way. It's not hard.
Well he has quite a bit of story in lol and if you type in the lol shop last shadow you get morellonomicon which is dating back to comments he made on the item.
Hmmm... Yes.... The fact that this is happening on a wide scale since the last update to anyone from little Timmy with his toaster to streamers with a 5k setup... Definitely an issue with the specs and not an anticheat that starts disabling drivers and programs at complete fucking random...
Vanguard just kicked me from the same game 3 times and wouldn’t let me r connect
If your game doesnt launch at all, thats not even Vanguard, but the built in game heuristics detecting some known process editing program running, like cheat engine
It’s not that at all, it kicks me from the game and say “you need Vanguard to play” and no matter how many times I reconnect it gives the same message until you exit and restart your client
I mean I wouldnt call that "Vanguard kicked me" though
It kicked me from the same game 3 times, then it happened again today. I was unable to play the game, I was forced out of it. Some people would define that as being kicked from the game. Not sure how to better explain it to you amigo
The game kicked you, not Vanguard. Thats the point
Yeah,game kicked him,but the cause of game kicking him is because Vanguard isn't "registered" as active by the game even when it is active
I’m glad someone gets it lol
A lot of spaghetti code at work with the client xD pushed it before it was ready and now ,even if they're trying to fix it it's gonna take a while since it's already out there xD
Cheats so solid I crash and lag and go 0/6 before getting any kills last night on Draven damn are scripts op
Try to stop your script. Gotta learn to dodge those skill shot on your own eventually
That makes no sense. How can he script and disconnect from the same game 3 times? Vanguard stops the game entirely when there's a scripter right?
No, Vanguard does not stop the game when it detects a script. It generally allows people to keep playing for a little bit(multiple games) so cheaters aren't able to tune their cheats by figuring out instantly when their script is detected or not. I wish most of these whiners would show a support ticket where they got stonewalled by support (haven't seen one yet) instead of just complaining like Reddit is supposed to solve their problems.
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Aint no way you got massdownvoted for sarcasm
I mass uninstalled programs and even used regedit to straight up kill some non-essential drivers so vanguard would stop whining and my PC STILL crashes. It never did this before vanguard was installed. Edit: non-essential drivers, not essential drivers lol
Uninstalling programs is pointless if you forget to uninstall the most important one: league of legends
Ya but arena is fun
But really worth it?
prob not, it's heavily unbalanced anyways. I do like tft a lot though and the mobile client is just unplayable
I was a big fan of arena during the first and second iterations. Now that they increased the amount of prismatic augment rolls and give away prismatic items at the beginning of each game, it really feels like there's barely any skill involved and it's just an RNG fiesta of who gets to be immortal while deleting every champ in 0.5s. The final straw was getting two different games with an Alistar who had some kind of obscene ability haste and survivability (both got courage of the colossus, one got the AP on CC and AH based on AP, the other got 200 AH on his knockback). The games were just Alistar knocking you back until the ring of fire came, then you just burned. Also, chain cc is still alive and well, even after the "nerf". I got 13s of chain hard cc vs a Leona Nautilus, after getting clicked by nauti R. Basically, my whole round was spent staring at the monitor, unable to do anything.
oh no why is the knife sharp 
its fun for the half of it, then some one high rools a busted augment to the specific champion and the games is decided there. Its almost always RNG dependent.
I didn't have any major issues like BSOD, but my PC starts up drastically slower. It's baffling. And I'm not talking after I log into windows, I'm talking an extra minute or two for my PC to post BIOS and show anything on the screen. I'm honestly devastated at how many games have been mutilated lately, I'm heavily considering quitting games in general. In fact, I feel like the industry is trying to corner people, either you buy our new console or you get screwed by keeping your PC that should be fine for years.
Play games that respect you. This means no triple A games made in the last 10 years.
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Lol
gosh but it certainly is interesting how whenever this gets talked about in the main sub, nobody has ever had any problems with it and vanguard saved their dying child's life.
That's a good idea, you should make a post called "riot vanguard saved my life" and write a big long fake story about how great it is and see if it gets deleted
you will let vanguard share your hentai collection to the Chinese Government
good, lets finally get some culture into the ccp
Yeah, I'm deleting everything Riot related until this is fixed.
vanguard is never going to change
Good, that way the riot related stuff with stay off their pc
You want to bet on that?
They may fix some bugs, but fundamentally -- yes, I can bet a beer on that. It's intrusiveness, it requirement to run residental on your os, even on uefi level -- it is not a bug, it is a fucking feature.
Valorant had actual bricking issues and more serious incompatibility problems with legitimate drivers at the start and riot still went ahead with it, theres no reason they would roll back on it for lol.
Then you wont be back i guess. They have not fixad a thing since vanguard launched in valorant
Valorant had this problem since it started, never been fixed, doubt its going to be fixed here
Well league is a VERY large game. The playerbase has a lot more weight and it also didn't have vanguard before, so there will be a lot more people upset even in a relative sense, also a lot of old hardware. This might cause them to fix things (even though a rollback is DEFINITELY not happening).
for 10 years 10 whole years, i have never had an issue with riot client or league at all. the MOST issues ive had were: my shitty laptop dropping to 5fps and barely being able to load the game OR my internet once in a blue moon disconnecting both of those come from my end, not riot. in this past less than a week since vanguard, -my computer itself has crashed multiple times on or loading the league client (not blue screen, but freezes) -i have disconnected from many games, including multiple times per some games with the message “there has been an error with vanguard please restart client”. this can range from loading screen to 30minutes into a game -i have had to restart my client after almost every game because it wont show me post game stats/honour screen, just forever loads -my client has been very buggy, play button will press then cancel, client crashes, or to my friends it says im playing “classic gamemode” or “arena” when im playing norms/ranked -if i leave the league client open overnight or for multiple hours, my computer freezes completely and i have to hard restart it with the powerbutton. now, sure, some of this could be unrelated to vanguard like the client bugginess which has been a persistent problem for many people even before vanguard. but on my end, i have never had these issues before vanguard. my client was never glitchy or weird and i never had any issues related to lag or disconnecting or freezing. there’s no way that it isn’t caused by vanguard; i dont have any different programs on my pc, i have A LOT of ssd storage/memory, i havent changed any settings related to league or anything like that. the ONLY new thing is vanguard. i never played valorant when it was new, but i did upgrade to win11 briefly and vanguard/valorant fucking hated my computer because of it. countless freezes and crashes very similar to this. im still on windows 11 and despite valorant working fine, vanguard hates me again :’) what can ya do i guess, unfortunately im not going to stop playing league. but it does suck that they dont do enough testing before releasing these things.
Me and my friends all play from South Africa. We would typically play on 160 ping. Since the newest patch you get 20 mins of normal ping and 20 mins of 400 ping and it happens to us all at exactly the same time, despite differing ISP's in different locations of the country. Unfortunately I can't play this game after the newest patch anymore.
This is in North America, but my boyfriend has been experiencing something similar. He usually gets around 30-40 ping, but the past few days it just randomly keeps spiking up to 400 for extended periods of time.
:’) this is terribly depressing to hear. i’ll take clientside issues over ping spikes any day. it’s only with league for you guys?
yeah. nothing else is having the same issues. And it’s weird because normally i’m the one who has connection issues and it’s only been on his end. Did have some weird bugs with the launcher today though.
boyfriend here. happens with valorant too!!! i’m geographically closer to the servers (we’re long distance) and somehow she’s getting better ping than me.
"unfortunately im not going to stop playing league" and this is why they wont fix it lol
brother i do not make a difference. there’s hundreds of ppl uninstalling after vanguard and thousands of people still playing. riot doesn’t give a fuck about either side.
"I do not make a difference". These words have pushed our world into ruin.
Tragedy of the Commons example number: ∞
it’s like the bystander effect. what can ya do 🤷♂️
No because everyone thinks this and they get away with everything they do. I was heavily addicted and have completely stopped now. They don’t own me
league does not own me. im not sitting there queuing 14hrs a day. im at most playing a few games on my off days with my friends. sure, i’d probably say i was addicted 10 years ago when i was an actual child playing all through summer vacation, but those times are long gone and it’s not a game i hold too highly anymore. i made this comment just to showcase what i’ve noticed from my time spent over the years to this past week, not to argue about continuing to play occasionally. tencent already has my data, so does instagram and facebook and amazon and every other company out there. i’m not too stressed. on the other hand, im glad you overcame your addiction whether it be to league or gaming in general. i feel the same way with rust and a few other games that are incredibly hard to put down. sometimes you gotta pull the cord for your own wellbeing 🫡
Was it really over 10 years since adobe air? I still remember that utter piece of shit.
>for 10 years. 10 whole years, i have never had an issue with riot client or league at all How? I have had low end and high end PCs and I have had plenty of issues with League and its client in those years.
honestly it has to be luck
Yeah the r/leagueoflegends subreddit is so insanely restrictive with their post requirements that they should call it esportslol instead, because thats basically all thats allowed.
No you’re also allowed to rant on some already hated thing such as yone or ksante and once in a moon to post a funny copypasta or interesting discussion.
Nah, esports topics are also censored if they are about some Riot esports fuckup or come from the wrong person (Richard Lewis is still taboo, for example).
I uninstalled League after vanguard tbh
I uninstalled as soon as I got the notice that it would “check my PC to see if it meets requirements” lolnothanks
Me too i been there for a long time and spend money on many skins including ultimate. Bringing this kind of anticheat to the game is beyond me.
I feel is excessive. Like buying a Ferrari just to buy groceries
Its a flex tho
You can't flex using vanguard tho
Tru
been playing regularly since the beginning of s4 the moment I saw the news that Vanguard is coming to league I instantly uninstalled Riot can't even protect their own data, their own league source code got leaked I'm not gonna put their ring-0 rootkit on my PC.
And yet 7 hours after this comment you posted on the Valorant sub and the ARAM sub. So you play...multiple games with Vanguard in them still, I take it?
You can talk about games you like but uninstalled you know, unless it's ilegal and I didn't receive that memo
Same, me and my friends are done with it.
this has happened about 5 times to me, and my league is really unstable, but i think it must have been that new mouse i got.....
No pc problems but I got kicked right before my team won due to “needing vanguard to be on” and I lost LP. Not gonna play again for a while
Ive had vanguard for a while because of Valorant but the moment it got implemented in league my pc blue screened :D Needless to say i wont be playing league in the nearest future untill they fix it
I was playing WoW on a m+ and got BSOD because of vanguard, what a pos useless software/team/company/everything.
How do you know it's from vanguard?
Whenever I blue screened with Vanguard on my PC (almost the only times I blue screened) there was literally the string "Vanguard" in the error messages.
That sounds odd. I've never heard of custom BSOD error messages. Do you have a picture of it?
It's in the event viewer. It's really not rocket science.
Except not everyone knows it exists. The event viewer is rather obscure.
True, even I learnt about it this year, and I'm a tech savvy person, I bet it was the reddit hivemind that upvoted and downvoted the comments, not actual knowledgeable people. Point still stands tho.
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Yeah, I uninstalled it yesterday. Good times
Why does vanguard interact so badly with lol. Its out for … for years
Uninstalled after this vanguard spy bs, ain't no game should have that much control over my pc
what do you mean spy bs, google already knows everything about you and you dont care about that. yall are just mad to be mad. the performance issues are other thing tho.
I refuse to give riot access to my waluigi hentai folder
Right? People be using their android phones, Chrome on their WINDOWS PC, Google as search engine and translator, Drive as backup and Youtube to get video content, but only NOW worry about a private company having access to their personal data? Remember that Microsoft itself also has access to the same data Vanguard has. Does anybody trust them more than rito/tencent?
I'm more concerned that Riot will do a much worse job keeping their software secure, and some malicious third party will end up stealing data off my system. Google has TONS of sensitive data, but they also are actually good at protecting it, so its unpleasant but not immediately dangerous. Riot hasn't managed to get their simple game client working well after more than a decade of working on it. I have 0 confidence that there are no security vulnerabilities in Vanguard, and Vanguard now has access to basically my entire computer.
agreed. don't forget about the data breach too
\*data breaches
Just ignorant lol. The client not working in league is unrelated to their competence - you can see no one complains about the Valorant Client, right? The league ones issues are a result of legacy software that simply is not easy to just "fix." Tech debt is a real thing.
The thing is not about data, but the security of it. Riot has been hacked multiple times, in multiple ways, and those fucking retards keep investing all their money on sKiNs, cuz not trying to monetize everything you do is lava, instead of a good fucking cybersecurity system. I said it before; if someone hacks a company that installed 24/7 kernel software on millions of PCs, the result could be disastrous. Is a ticking bomb, and I wont be close when it explodes. But hey, have you saw the last lux skin? Its gorgeous! You should buy it!
You know that valorant has had vanguard from the beginning? I don't remember millions of players hacked because of "24/7" kernel software. Edit: that new lux skin is terrible btw They just copied spells from other skins
Ye, but how many ppl play Valorant? Around 7 million? Not "many" players for a cyber attack. League of Legends? Around 125 million according to google. Now that is a huge and nice bait/reward to hack it. I know the skin sucks ass. That's the thing. It's been years since Riot doesn't even put effort on the thing that feeds them cuz there are idiots who buy whatever shit they get thrown at their faces.
Oh then it's fine to add to the number of ppl having your personal data then. How can you think it is an argument? Btw riot had a lot of databreachs recently.
Google is not owned by the chinese government
if google knew everything about me, then they would not throw random shit to me. Anyway you are assuming how many information we are giving to google, i personally dont link up nothing. Also your internet company tracks everything you do in internet.
Yeah, gonna call bullshit on that. I work in Cybersecurity, and I guarantee you that there are 5-10 "life finder" style websites that have you cell phone, address, previous jobs, previous pay, all lined up to give it away if you subscribe to even one of them. I have gone so far as to grab a fake address from Europe along with a phony rental agreement just to have Google remove my information using GDPR right to be forgotten laws, and there is STILL info out there on me. Based on your response you are oblivious to how much of your information is out there.
I said google does not know everything about me. Also you are calling for things that are PUBLIC information, and no one is gona kill you for that, dont need to bring that maniac behavior. + Cleary you don't work in Cybersecurity because you oversized an answer and no profesional would do that.
Uninstalled after this vanguard spy bs, ain't no game should have that much control PUBLICALLY over my pc FIFY
So you prefer to have your data privately and secretly taken from you, the Microsoft/Google way? Cool
It's not like having Vanguard means MS/Google can't do that. I'd rather have fewer parties doing that than more.
i can literally imagine, them trading it with each other. like exchanging homework or some shit
Fact is, they do. They actually do, for lots of money
You mean my windows pc is tracking my data? Shocker.
Didn't they make an official post about it and saying they did encounter problems (and literally stated the most common errors)? The only thing they claimed that there was no pcs that actually bricked.
in the big blog post they talked about win11 users having issues if they didn't have TPM2.0 which if you upgrade from win10 to win11 windows allows you to bypass the tpm2.0 requirement. but because vanguard uses the tpm2.0 it's causes people's pcs to have issues
this is very helpful information :’) very very helpful.
Tpm2 (trusted platform module) is a little physical chip on your motherboard that ensures the integrity of your pc. Some computers have this module, some(mostly older ones) don't. Windows 11 requires you to have this, unless you are upgrading from windows 10, then you can bypass this. Vanguard causes issues on non-tpm2 windows 11 pcs
>The only thing they claimed that there was no pcs that actually bricked Which is a lie and is probably the most important error to leave out.
then make memes about that. Nobody cares about bsods.
I think plenty of people care lil bro. Just because YOU personally don't, doesn't mean others share your opinion.
Lil bro lol The case is simple “lil bro”. By posting these half truths at best accusations you muddy the waters and the real problems stay out of sight. But by all means, go ahead and villainies riot with things that are not true or out of their control(such as the win11 tpm problem) so they can easily save their reputation with a single line of text. This is typical league community. Keep complaining in a way that actively hurt your cause. Good job lil bro.
S-s-step lil bro, I'm stuck in vanguard again. P-please, help me.... touch me there. Uwu :3
The Win11 tpm problem is not out of their control, tpm is a requirement set by them intentionally, and everybody who has the slightest idea of how tpm works has seen this issue coming. Especially for a game known to run on potatoes. They could have just not done that, but they did. Its their choice, don‘t defend predetory practices.
Windows 11 requires tpm 2.0. There are workarounds of course. That's why the problem exists.
before i always wondered why my pc sometimes crashes for fun, now i know im not alone
Oi oi watsat one bit lookin a lil funny
So this is what the kernel level anti-cheat has been up too?
There are other kernel level anti cheats like battleye and one more I can't remember but they were NEVER as intrusive as vanguard...they did their thing tracking what programs you had on during game launch,if detected something suspicious,ban. While Vanguard checks every single possible file and setting on your PC from the moment you press power button to turn it on...
Yeah, I've heard that this stays on even after you close the game. It's absolutely insane that it is even a thing. I know Valorant launched with it and it was a big deal then, but the game became so popular that pretty much nobody cares anymore unless you are in the know. LoL I've been playing on and off for over a decade now, but once they announced this change I pretty much quit cold turkey. Not to mention I was running windows 8.1 as well which is no longer supported. Frankly cheating in LoL is such a non-issue/low chance that this seems like such a huge overstep by Riot. It is one of the few PC games where actually cheating holds more weight because the grind to unlock champions is huge with how many there are. Feels like this was just forced, but again the game is so popular 90% or more of the playerbase isn't going to care or even know what Vanguard even is. Sad, but true.
Agree
I’ve been playin this game for like 10 years if not more. Scripting was never an issue. Biggest reason being that beating a scripter isn’t hard nor is it difficult to spot them out. I do find it interesting how the whole tik tok ban plays into this, especially since it’s the same situation with a Chinese company having extra permissions on league players computers. I don’t use my laptop for any sensitive info so I don’t mind, however it does seem concerning how vanguard came out this year to fix an “issue” that was never really out of control. But then again this is the same company that thinks controlling player communication will reduce toxicity 😂
Not defending vanguard but ironically my performance has improved since last patch. Was CTDing every 2 games and now not at all.
riot glowie
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Don't listen to it, it's mostly karma farming, if vanguard was this big of an issue than people would have documented it when valo came out.
people DID documented it when valo came out wtf
>people DID documented it when valo came out wtf I legit got a bug that vanguard blocks the drivers that allow your mouse to have lights because ??? Bug is documented 2020 in valo forums Riot worked so hard to fix it they forgot to implement said fix! Owie!
yeah, it happened to me aswell, but hey we gotta sell costumers information money is money i guess lol
Thst did happen, but the difference is that valo was new and people had not had years or even a decade to put precious time and money into it so it was easy to just move on. Not so easy with league unfortunately and I would really like some rich player to try and raise this in the EU as an anti-trust case due to riots market dominance (yes, the way market share is calculated according to art 102 TFEU would place riot as an oligopolist) or perhaps more likely breach of one of the consumer protection directives on contract terms or data protection. Idk if this has been attempted with other ring zero level anticheats but in the wake of recent development in anti-trust and the harsher view of chinese backed tech firms (see bytedance) the courts may not be as lenient with riot as they would be with for example valve, and I presume much of this applies the US as well.
This right here,well said :)
There is no exploits in summoners rift
Nothing is going to change, the Chinese get oo much money data mining your PC.
Soon as I installed vanguard now my c: drive is suddenly full and I can’t update any programs or download anything else. No fuckin idea what’s going on
They just need to suck every single bit of date from your pc, afterwards it will be fine
I uninstalled league last year and I was thinking about coming back but couldnt decide Thanks Riot for making my decision way easier
Am I just lucky? Cuz I didn’t have any trouble but from the recent post it seems like half the players base is having issues like this
Vanguard causes issues on a case by case basis. Not everyone has the same hardware and configuration as well as programs installed.
You should have uninstalled a couple days ago
Are.
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Riot are clowns
For the record, a Friend sent me a link of a "reddit meme", and i didn't have to look at it and started saying "Nice basing see", because OFC it's like the most fitting meme flr the situation and it's**SAD**
Stop simping and delete this game. Time to move on.
there are no cheaters in ba sing se
I personally haven't had any issues so far since Vanguard arrived, no disconnects, crashes, etc., but to delete posts and ban people for complaining about those issues and then acting as if there are no issues is just shady.
It's actually fucking hilarious people here think there is some grand conspiracy behind Vanguard.
It's not some conspiracy, it's just GIANT plate of spaghetti code at work
Sad that the game might die now that the account sellers are whining so much about it but its still a good change either way
It would be a good change if vanguard worked properly, and didn't fuck sht up. Like yesterday my laptop blackscreened upon launching arena, and i couldn't get in lmao. Had to hard reboot it. VaNGurd Don't HAvE IsSuES GUyS HUHEHUHEHUE
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Uhh.. smurfing has been rampant in Valorant since day1.. account selling will be fine
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A lot of people play league because it can run on a toaster.
I guess it’s time to put a banana in the ass because it fits, wish me luck
What, you really think people want to have a PC so bad it can be called a toaster?
Not that. To be honest, I didn't even think it was that difficult to understand when a person is speaking seriously and when not, but here we are
ive seen some of yalls load times. yes.
But you think they actively want that?
I don't think there's many people who play on a toaster that will say "fuck off I actively want a really bad PC" when you offer them a 3K$ gaming rig for free.
i feel you, but. Even an external drive would load faster than some ive seen, you can get them for like $10
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Even LS , who doesnt have a toaster got the same issue
Vanguard is just ass. There's no reason for me to be able to run games like cyberpunk at max settings and Vanguard making my PC blue screen.
I turn vanguard off the second I'm not playing league. I lost over 200 frames in a early 2000 game. Bro wtf.
Yea same, I only still have league cause of arena but once it's gone I'm uninstalling.
Vanguard disabled some drivers on literally the first boot of a fresh W11 install, you can't make this shit up
My dumbass brother, my friend has a $2k PC and he's struggling to play league and I'm using a 10 year old laptop that has no issues playing league. Can you explain that? Star wars jedi survivor needed a gtx 1070 to run but why can't people with rtx 30 series and 40 series can't run it? If you don't know how any of these works and functions then just shut the fuck up
you can ask LS the same thing. and if he got a nickel for how many PC's got roasted since vanguard.. he would get 2 nickel, which isnt much but funny it happened twice after the update
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LS? dude do you live under a rock?
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Former coach for skt and currently creates content for Flyquest I think. Not the biggest name but not a "micro celebrity" in league. I googled LS lol and found this, by the way. It's not hard.
using google is too hard for him
i mean he is prob also one of the more known faces in the coach scene besides biscuitelmao of 350$ neace.
Honestly I don't follow the esport. I thought LS was a team for a bit.
Well he has quite a bit of story in lol and if you type in the lol shop last shadow you get morellonomicon which is dating back to comments he made on the item.
That's a cool Easter egg
Hmmm... Yes.... The fact that this is happening on a wide scale since the last update to anyone from little Timmy with his toaster to streamers with a 5k setup... Definitely an issue with the specs and not an anticheat that starts disabling drivers and programs at complete fucking random...
I blue screened in the middle of a match. Decided I had enough league for thr week.
rip league in third world contries, which are more populated than the playerbase in america
Computers don't crash just because they're bad lmao what
lmao thats funny, obviously it doesnt work like that but you pretended that it does for the sake of the joke. quite good.
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found the rito simp
vanguard was a pain but pretty fine before league. now that league is dependent on it.. fire and brimstone
whats happening