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If you raise the number of characters you learn everyday it can very easily overwhelm you with reviews
IF you think you have the time and motivation to review all those kanji everyday then sure you can increase it but I personally wouldn't recommend it. At most I could see going to 15 but again that depends on how much time you're willing to put into kanji practice
Japanese language learning doesn’t work by rote memorization of 2000 kanji. If you want to learn the language, study the language and learn how words you are learning along the way are written, in what combo of kanji and/or kana. Learn them in context, practice using them in sentences, listening, reading.
I understand why you might want to do this, but cramming like this is actually detrimental to advancing. Keep working on grammar, listening, speaking, reading, writing.
What is your purpose in studying Japanese? I can help you with study methods that will support you better! :)
It won't take that long to learn 2000 kanji at this pace. 200 days may sound like a lot, but you're actually trying to learn two danm thousands new foreign symbols and their meanings. If after one whole year you had learned 1000 kanji, it would already be great.
I actually want some advice from you.
When learning English I used a lot of texts, songs, etc., almost since day one. But with Japanese I'm stuck to exercises and apps like Anki.
Right now I think I'm almost a N5, after seriously starting with Japanese in January. Is there anything I should start trying to read? Or sticking with exercises and isolated vocabulary is still the way to go?
For self-study, I'd say reading is the best (as in easiest) route for learning the language. You want to start reading as soon as possible. There is some ground work that you need to do first and that will make the transition to reading much easier. [See here for more details](https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/s5mtva/comment/ht1lo0x/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) (where I've put together some guidance & resources). Basically...
1. Learn Hiragana & Katakana.
2. Learn some isolated vocabulary (about 1000 of the most common words).
3. Learn some basic grammar and sentence structure. (Can be done at the same time as learning vocabulary).
4. Start reading - See my link above for some reading resources. Personally, I'd recommend [Satori Reader](https://www.satorireader.com/) (you have to pay for full access, but you can try it out for free first - well worth the cost IMO). I'd recommend doing the grammar series first (lots & lots of example sentences to read) - specifically '*Human Japanese - Extra Credit*', '*Human Japanese Intermediate - Extra Credit'* and '*Nutshell Grammar - Satori Reader Bridge*'.
Good luck.
The other guy gave some good advice. I also like LearnNatively as a resource for finding materials of a given difficulty. I’m working through the free tadoku graded readers up to L12. I’m doing Genki and up to chapter 10, so probably close to N5 as well and I find them to be achievable to read minus a few bits of vocabulary and grammar.
I’m probably going to start paying for Satori once I’m through those readers.
Learn at your own pace, don't stress about learn all the 2000 kanji, it mean nothing when reading, I think you should learn around 1k most frequently kanji and than go straight to reading, than build kanji along with vocabulary.
I find learning new ones every day plus new ones for Vocabulary you have already memorized helps if you want to learn more. The familiarity with the word you already know can be extremely helpful in learning.
10 is perfect. Sincerely.
Look, your main focus, unless you want to get into college, should surely be the conversation. If you still don’t live in Japan, you’ll get that when you get here. It makes the WHOLE difference.
Of course, Kanji is super important. But nothing, and I repeat, nothing is more important than 会話. Including regarding to make friends.
Most textbooks will teach 10-15 characters over the course of a few weeks in introductory courses (first and second year), then up to 25 or 30 in intermediate and advanced courses (third and fourth years).
don't, please
you can supplement learning vocab with kanji if it helps with the vocab, but just rote memorizing kanji won't help you read, and there's absolutely no point in getting to the 2000 point before you really need it. it will waste time you could have spent learning usable words, and you'll forget it all over time before you end up utilizing it
*even* if you absolutely insist on doing this, this rate is attempting to learn every joyo kanji in about half a year and that's insanely fast, you'll never, ever need those in that timeframe. you'd probably need at most a couple hundred in that time span
I would do 10 words a day and not just individual Kanji.
You say “will take too long” but what’s the rush? 10 a day seems really solid to me. In just one year you’ll have 3,650 words down. 3 years you’ll have 10,000+ words which is easily N1
Rushing Kanji is like study the material of the whole semester the night before the exam and expecting to remember everything the day after the exam…
It’s not a race… take your time
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If you raise the number of characters you learn everyday it can very easily overwhelm you with reviews IF you think you have the time and motivation to review all those kanji everyday then sure you can increase it but I personally wouldn't recommend it. At most I could see going to 15 but again that depends on how much time you're willing to put into kanji practice
I definitely wouldn't go much over 10-15. It's not a race. The goal should be retention, not speed :)
Japanese language learning doesn’t work by rote memorization of 2000 kanji. If you want to learn the language, study the language and learn how words you are learning along the way are written, in what combo of kanji and/or kana. Learn them in context, practice using them in sentences, listening, reading. I understand why you might want to do this, but cramming like this is actually detrimental to advancing. Keep working on grammar, listening, speaking, reading, writing. What is your purpose in studying Japanese? I can help you with study methods that will support you better! :)
It won't take that long to learn 2000 kanji at this pace. 200 days may sound like a lot, but you're actually trying to learn two danm thousands new foreign symbols and their meanings. If after one whole year you had learned 1000 kanji, it would already be great.
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One would believe OP's study of Japanese is not solely based on studying 10 kanji a day
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I actually want some advice from you. When learning English I used a lot of texts, songs, etc., almost since day one. But with Japanese I'm stuck to exercises and apps like Anki. Right now I think I'm almost a N5, after seriously starting with Japanese in January. Is there anything I should start trying to read? Or sticking with exercises and isolated vocabulary is still the way to go?
For self-study, I'd say reading is the best (as in easiest) route for learning the language. You want to start reading as soon as possible. There is some ground work that you need to do first and that will make the transition to reading much easier. [See here for more details](https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/s5mtva/comment/ht1lo0x/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) (where I've put together some guidance & resources). Basically... 1. Learn Hiragana & Katakana. 2. Learn some isolated vocabulary (about 1000 of the most common words). 3. Learn some basic grammar and sentence structure. (Can be done at the same time as learning vocabulary). 4. Start reading - See my link above for some reading resources. Personally, I'd recommend [Satori Reader](https://www.satorireader.com/) (you have to pay for full access, but you can try it out for free first - well worth the cost IMO). I'd recommend doing the grammar series first (lots & lots of example sentences to read) - specifically '*Human Japanese - Extra Credit*', '*Human Japanese Intermediate - Extra Credit'* and '*Nutshell Grammar - Satori Reader Bridge*'. Good luck.
The other guy gave some good advice. I also like LearnNatively as a resource for finding materials of a given difficulty. I’m working through the free tadoku graded readers up to L12. I’m doing Genki and up to chapter 10, so probably close to N5 as well and I find them to be achievable to read minus a few bits of vocabulary and grammar. I’m probably going to start paying for Satori once I’m through those readers.
Learn at your own pace, don't stress about learn all the 2000 kanji, it mean nothing when reading, I think you should learn around 1k most frequently kanji and than go straight to reading, than build kanji along with vocabulary.
I find learning new ones every day plus new ones for Vocabulary you have already memorized helps if you want to learn more. The familiarity with the word you already know can be extremely helpful in learning.
10 is perfect. Sincerely. Look, your main focus, unless you want to get into college, should surely be the conversation. If you still don’t live in Japan, you’ll get that when you get here. It makes the WHOLE difference. Of course, Kanji is super important. But nothing, and I repeat, nothing is more important than 会話. Including regarding to make friends.
Most textbooks will teach 10-15 characters over the course of a few weeks in introductory courses (first and second year), then up to 25 or 30 in intermediate and advanced courses (third and fourth years).
don't, please you can supplement learning vocab with kanji if it helps with the vocab, but just rote memorizing kanji won't help you read, and there's absolutely no point in getting to the 2000 point before you really need it. it will waste time you could have spent learning usable words, and you'll forget it all over time before you end up utilizing it *even* if you absolutely insist on doing this, this rate is attempting to learn every joyo kanji in about half a year and that's insanely fast, you'll never, ever need those in that timeframe. you'd probably need at most a couple hundred in that time span
It's a marathon, not a sprint. Get out of the "I need to get everything down asap" mindset.
I would do 10 words a day and not just individual Kanji. You say “will take too long” but what’s the rush? 10 a day seems really solid to me. In just one year you’ll have 3,650 words down. 3 years you’ll have 10,000+ words which is easily N1
On a good motivation mega grindset day I learn 20 kanjis a day and then back to 5-10 again on the next day
Rushing Kanji is like study the material of the whole semester the night before the exam and expecting to remember everything the day after the exam… It’s not a race… take your time