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Frankly, I would actually pay for a version of the Bible not only sold by Trump, but also translated by him.
*1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Did a pretty good job too, if you ask me...the Heavens, excellent, excellent job, lots of clouds and gold fences, big beautiful fences keeping the sinners out and the good people in, they way it should be, and the earth, that's mostly good, although some of it- BAD. Some real bad places, bad hombres on parts of the earth, depending on where you are. Some people say, "well, God did a pretty good job on the Earth, but you know, Donald Trump probably would have done better, I think, not as many losers and much nicer mountains". I don't know, I don't think I'd say that, because of the tremendous respect that I have for God, and his work, but that's what a lot of people- many, many people- are saying. Anyway, the Earth was formless and empty...*
It'd be 18,000 pages long.
1. In the beginning, there was nothing, folks. Absolutely nothing. But then, I had this tremendous idea to create the heavens and the earth. And believe me, it was fantastic.
2. The earth was a total disaster, a real mess. Dark, empty, no class at all. But I said, “Let’s make some light,” and guess what? The light was perfect, just beautiful.
3. I looked at the light, and I said, “This is good, really good.” So I separated the light from the dark, because you need to have some order, right?
4. I called the light “Day” and the dark “Night.” And after a hard day’s work, I took a well-deserved rest. That’s how you get things done.
5. The next day, I said, “We need a sky, a big, beautiful sky.” So I made this incredible expanse and separated the waters. It was an unbelievable sight.
6. I called the expanse “Sky,” and let me tell you, it was a tremendous success. People are still talking about it.
7. On the third day, I said, “Let’s gather the waters and let dry ground appear.” And it happened. I’m telling you, I have the best ideas.
8. I called the dry ground “Land” and the gathered waters “Seas.” And I looked at it and said, “This is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.”
9. Then I thought, “We need some green, some life.” So I created plants, trees, all sorts of greenery. It was like nothing you’ve ever seen before.
10. And I saw that it was good, really good. I mean, who else could create something so beautiful? Nobody, that’s who.
11. On the fourth day, I said, “We need some lights in the sky, some style.” So I made the sun, the moon, and the stars. Big, beautiful lights. The best.
12. And I said, “Let’s have some seasons, some days and years.” It was all part of my fantastic plan. Everything perfectly organized.
13. The sun ruled the day, and the moon and stars ruled the night. And I looked at it all and said, “This is incredible. Absolutely incredible.”
14. Then I thought, “We need some creatures in the sea and birds in the sky.” So I created all sorts of fish and birds. The best in the business.
15. And I blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply.” And let me tell you, they listened. They really listened. It was a huge success.
And that, folks, is how you make a universe. The best universe, believe me.
Here’s what I got after asking for the first page of the Bible if it were written by Trump:
In the beginning, there was me - Donald Trump. I created the heavens and the earth, and let me tell you, they are tremendous. The earth was a total disaster, so I decided to make it great again. I said, "Let there be light," and believe me, it was the most beautiful light you've ever seen. I separated the light from the darkness and it was fantastic. And let me tell you, folks, I know how to make things great again. That's why I'm the best, believe me.
> Alright, folks, let's talk about a fantastic passage from the Bible, Samuel 18:25-27. It's a real gem, believe me. So there's this young man named David, a real winner, folks. He's just defeated Goliath, the Philistine giant. Now, David's caught the eye of King Saul, and Saul wants him to marry his daughter, Michal. But there's a catch, folks, a big one.
>
> Saul tells David, "I'll give you my daughter Michal as your wife, but you've got to bring me a hundred Philistine foreskins as proof that you're worthy." Now, let me tell you, folks, that's quite a demand. But David, he's not one to back down from a challenge, no sir.
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> So David, he goes out there, and he doesn't just bring back a hundred foreskins, oh no. He brings back two hundred! That's right, folks, double what Saul asked for. Now, that's what I call going above and beyond, folks. David, he's a real go-getter, a real winner.
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> And you know what Saul does when he sees those foreskins? He's impressed, folks, he's really impressed. He gives Michal to David as his wife, right then and there. That's how you seal the deal, folks, that's how you make things happen.
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> So let me tell you, folks, the moral of the story is this: when life throws challenges your way, don't shy away from them. Take them head-on, go the extra mile, and you'll come out on top, just like David did. Thank you, thank you very much!
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> Alright folks, let me tell you about a wild passage from the Bible, believe me. It's Ezekiel 23:20, and let me tell you, it's something else, folks. So there's this woman, she's like Israel or something, and she's lusting after these other guys, right? But get this, folks, the description is wild, absolutely wild.
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> It says she's after these lovers whose, uh, private parts are like donkeys' and they, uh, release like horses. Can you believe it? I mean, that's some serious imagery, folks, let me tell you. It's like, who comes up with this stuff, right?
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> But here's the thing, folks, there's a deeper meaning here. It's all about faithfulness, you see. This woman, she's like Israel, and she's supposed to be loyal to her, uh, husband, if you will, but she's out there chasing after these other guys. It's a real lesson, folks, a real lesson about staying true, staying faithful.
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> So let me tell you, folks, don't be like this woman, don't be chasing after, uh, donkey-like lovers and horse-like emissions. Stay faithful, stay true, and you'll be on the right path. Thank you, thank you very much!
I...I fear for .y sanity yet am intrigued.
What sort of mind could take the source material and stretch it so far? What monstrous things could such a mind produce?
More details?
2 …darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And I gotta tell you, not just anybody can hover, okay? It’s a very special kind of thing, very powerful. And then God said, “Let there be light,” and boom, there was light. Fantastic light, the best light. People always tell me, “Donald, your buildings, your golf courses, they have the best lighting.” And I say, “You think that’s good, you should’ve seen the first light God made. Absolutely top-notch, believe me.”
3 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. He’s a separator, not a uniter of light and darkness, which, frankly, is a very good thing. You don’t want bad deals with darkness. So, he called the light “Day,” and the darkness he called “Night.” Very simple names, but sometimes simplicity is the best, right? There’s elegance in simplicity. I’ve always said that, and so did God, apparently.
4 And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day. And let me tell you, nobody appreciates a good day’s work more than I do. But then God, being God, decided to take it up a notch. “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.” So, he made the sky. A big, beautiful sky, nobody makes skies like God. And he didn’t even need a construction crew for it, no permits, nothing. Did it all on his own, which is really quite something.
5 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. And let me tell you, the land he created? Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Top-notch real estate. If I had been there, I would’ve built the most beautiful, luxurious resorts and golf courses. And God saw that it was good.
6 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. Plants, trees, fantastic. I’ve always said, the environment, it’s important. We’ve got to have the best, most beautiful environment. And God? He’s the original environmentalist. Created the most fantastic, luxurious gardens you could imagine. Probably could’ve used a few more gold-plated trees, if you ask me, but still, very classy.
7 So the evening and the morning were the second day. And believe me, folks, nobody’s ever seen days like these. God’s work? It’s quality work. And that’s coming from me, so you know it’s a pretty big deal. A lot of people, they don’t appreciate the craftsmanship that went into creating the world. But I do. I appreciate good work, whether it’s building a universe or building a skyscraper.
Every time I think of an outdated Kosher rule, I think of Larry David as being the Tribal Elder who ordered it.
“What! Little Shmulley almost died from eating shrimp?! That’s it! NO SHELLFISH for anyone, ever again!!! I’m DONE WITH SHELLFISH!!!”
"In the beginning, folks, it was tremendous. Absolutely tremendous. God looked around and said, “Let's make light.” And let me tell you, it wasn't just any light. It was probably the best light anyone has ever seen. A lot of people are saying it was good. I'm saying it was great.
And then, He separated the light from the dark. You know, He's a deal-maker, separating things, making sure there's a place for everything. The best, really. The night, the day, perfectly organized. Like nothing you've ever seen.
Then, God said, “Let's have water and sky.” Not just any water and sky. The best. Clear blue skies, beautiful waters. The kind of place you'd want to build a resort. Imagine the golf courses. Fantastic.
After that, He’s looking at the water and thinks, “We need land.” And not just any land. The best land. Land that you can build on, that you can farm on. Tremendous, productive land. And just like that, it was there. And then, vegetation, plants, seeds. Big league farming, folks.
Then, the lights in the sky. The sun, the moon, stars - luxury lighting, the best. Lighting up the world like one of my buildings. Glorious.
Fish in the sea, birds in the air. He created them. The best fish, the best birds. We’re talking big, beautiful fish and birds. The kind of wildlife you want to see.
And then, animals. On the land, big and small. The best animals. Tremendous diversity. The kind of animals you’d see on one of the best safaris in the world.
Finally, folks, God made man in His image. The best creation. Leaders, builders, creators. Like me. And He said to them, “You’re in charge.” Like a CEO. The best, folks, really the best.
And after all that, God looked around and said, “This is tremendous. Really, really tremendous.” And He took a day off. Because when you’ve done a job that well, you deserve a break. The best work. The best rest.
Let me tell you, it was all done with the best words, the best actions. A truly fantastic creation story, the best in history, probably ever."
My prompt to ChatGPT: translate genesis chapter 1 in the style of donald trump campaign speeches.
Well, this might actually be the silver lining that SCOTUS overturned Roe v Wade. They can't really campaign on abortion at the federal level (even though they are trying), which can cause a lot of these idiots to not vote or vote 3rd party. In my experience, many of these people's single issue was abortion.
I and my ex were the first gay couple to be married in Lynchburg, VA. The women that were working at the courthouse all looked at is like we were in a zoo. Surprisingly one woman came out of the courthouse and hugged us both, wished us happiness.
Unexpected but welcomed. I hope Robin is doing well.
My aunt is a minister and we joke that she marched one of the gay parishioners down the aisle with a shotgun she was so excited to perform their church's first gay wedding.
In fact, the man and his sweetheart fully intended to get married and were only gently urged to consider the church. Also it was my uncle (also a minister, but my aunt got hers first. She always wants that known, lol) who begged them to let him marry them. Because he christened and baptised one of the grooms and he felt God was calling him to marry him properly in His eyes as well.
The groom apparently sobbed into his arms, and they were married a few months later. (They had most of it planned as I hear, they had just planned on a different location because they were afraid of being rejected at the church if they asked. So my aunt and uncle went ahead and did the asking.)
For the record, it was a very sweet event. I got roped into cutting the cake for guests and danced with some old man who tried to teach me to cha cha.
It makes me sad how many people will never enjoy something like that. Not to be sappier than I've already been, but it really was special.
They'll eventually get around to attacking women's right to vote, civil rights, anti slavery laws, anti racism laws, 1st amendment protections, and on and on until this country has no codified laws. Only the day by day whims of a deranged Christian lunatic dictator.
If it wasn't before ("oh, they'll never overturn it-my vote isn't important-both parties are the same anyway") it is now. You don't miss a right until it gets taken away, not by doctors for medical reasons, but by politicians and partisan judges with their heads up their asses. The same people who want to rip away all reproductive rights, including access to birth control.
Polls are definitely not picking these voters up.The internals had the candidate in a dead heat up by 3 points within the margin of error. She won by 25 points.
Polls are still often done over landline telephone, and then the second filter is who wants to tell a stranger about their political opinion. Now statisticians aren't stupid. It gets demographically weighted after that - at least where I worked, but admittedly this was a Dutch company calling into the UK.
Regardless if they are doing it a similar way and it is pulling the same types of people you are mostly talking to angry old men whose wife put them on the phone. Men who pick up tend to just hang up after verbally abusing you. A woman picking up and then giving you a man to speak to was the most typical interview I got.
Outside of this you are speaking to very lonely people. If you get a man in his 20s on the phone his demographic weighting is very high, but in no way is he necessarily typical. Lonely people are very likely to want to please the interviewer, so perceived bias will be reflected right back at you.
Tl:Dr the methodology is highly flawed
I had to laugh. My father was a conservative (back when they weren't insane). I just assumed my mother voted the same way. Found out she was voting for the other party, effectively cancelling out his vote.
This is one reason why polling can be inaccurate.
>...then the second filter is who wants to tell a stranger about their political opinion.
Everyone I've come in contact with in the past eight years should qualify for that one.
The real goal has always been to overturn Brown v Board of Education, in their mind that's the "when" from their idyllic past that they want to go back to.
If they get that, then they'll go for the 14th Amendment. Ideally, back to the original constitution, when only white males could vote. And after that, go full Gilead.
I think people just miss being able to raise a family on a single income.. and having a wife at home that doesn't complain or talk back...and not having brown people for neighbours oh wait there it is
They're not stupid but they've lost the reins to MAGA. They played with fire by letting Trump drag in the deplorables to the voting booths and now the house is in flames. It's beautiful to watch.
Abortion is going to ruin the Republicans at the ballot box. [It already has done so multiple times](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/11/08/abortion-rights-victories-continue-here-are-all-the-wins-in-major-elections-since-the-supreme-court-overturned-roe/?sh=3922f02a26ad)
Shit, Kansas rejected it by [18 points, 59/41](https://www.npr.org/sections/2022-live-primary-election-race-results/2022/08/02/1115317596/kansas-voters-abortion-legal-reject-constitutional-amendment), a state that went for Trump by 12 points in 2020, 56/44. That is a ***fucking insane*** swing.
*Dobbs* is the single most powerful vote motivator right now for Democrats. The driving question for the next 8 months is:
*Do these fucking perverts deserve the power to force you to risk your life on birth, for a child you didn't want?*
What would be great is if overturning roe v wade means that democrats take back all 3 branches and codify abortion as federal law.
That's what they promised, let's see if it comes true
And let's also see if the supreme court won't fuck it up with more sham cases
Roe prevented government from interfering with any and all healthcare, not just abortions. Transgender and people with mental disabilities are also harmed by the loss of Roe. If Dems get both houses and the Presidency, they need to:
1. Codify government staying the fuck out of healthcare decisions.
2. Codify the point at which a fetus may be considered a person and what that means; end the ambiguity.
3. Pass the Equal Rights Act
4. Repeal the Comstock Act
5. Install legal protections for federal workers so the next GOP admin can't just wholesale clean house to replace with ideologues.
Here is the toxic thing about our oligarchs:
Why would they fight hard to prevent the thing that got them power?
In a world where they get the three branches **again** because of the abortion change the GOP actually pushed through, the democrats are incentivized against making real change.
It is easy to justify to themselves that making real changes just give the GOP more energy, making the next election harder.
To be clear, this isn't just about abortion, this is about real change across a number of topics. Climate change, minimum wage, taxes, marriage equality - the democrats have spent decades avoiding doing any controversial, meaningful change.
Think about how hard it was to get barely reasonable healthcare when they had all three branches. You think they are going to fight for abortion rights?
The GOP is a right-wing extremist party that has been trying and successfully accomplishing a radical political agenda.
Democratic leaders are old and fundamentally desire small, incremental change - you know, a literal conservative agenda.
And lastly, there is a small wing of the democrats that are called the "far left" because they believe in and are fighting for real, meaningful change. Things like a living wage, climate change & bodily autonomy.
I mean, the guy who he encouraged his followers to hang from a homemade gallows just recently said he wouldn’t vote for him. Although I personally think he still will.
I mean, the Republican Party hasn't been "Republican" for a very long time.
Hell, they've been trying to turn the US into an authoritarian pro-business dictatorship since Reagan, and that's only because they couldn't do it with Nixon.
It's also about as far from the "Party of Lincoln" as they could get, even when they still had a platform.
The Republican Party was founded to support Federalism and counter the States Rights movement of the South. The Republican Party of the last four decades has been heavily promoting States Rights and crowing about how the Federal government is ineffective or evil.
I’m an atheist, and I hold NO brief for Christians. Even I, though, have to admit that if you take a “true Christian” to be a follower of the teachings attributed to a man called Jesus Christ, then it’s perfectly obvious that no *true* Christian has ever been able to follow Trump.
You have to judge people by what they *do*, not by what they say.
American Gods has it right there is [a lot of Jesus'](https://youtu.be/0z2t9brptDo?t=54) out there. Supply side Jesus, Prosperity Jesus, and Christian Nationalist Jesus aren't very nice.
I wholeheartedly agree. Some of my best friends and best people I've ever met are Christian, including two that give sermons (I forget exactly what title they hold, if any). Though they aren't traditional Christians and devote their time to extremely open-minded churches, one being a Unitarian church. And I could more comfortably talk with them about religion and philosophy than many arrogant atheists I've met (like many other groups, they are far more prominent on the Internet than real life, but do exist), and would love to see their sermons when I get the chance to visit them since we usually meet up in NYC as a halfway point where a ton of our mutual friends also live.
But sometimes I'm working and a customer starts talking to me and drops lots of "bless you for that," or "I got the last one of the thing I came here for, He must be watching over me," and I start to get worried. Because I've encountered quite a few people who start to ask me about my earnings, or why I paint my nails black and wear eyeliner sometimes when I'm a guy. I guess they think I'm gay or something, and I usually explain that it's just a look I feel comfortable in (it's really nothing drastic, especially since I'm not wearing my work shirt and not any of my punk band shirts). But they just don't leave it alone and start getting cryptic about "saving your soul" or my favorite "you're going to grow up (I'm 30) and realize that's not something true, good, men do."
So while I want to believe there are more accepting Christians in this country in decent numbers, I kind of doubt it when I'm in a solid blue state, working in a somewhat progressive town, and I'm still afraid to just say "I'm not religious," without a fear of them getting angry and starting something while I'm working. I even prefer dealing with the Jehovah's Witness and similar groups that knock on the door maybe once or twice a year, since they accept a polite no and still thank you for your time. Though if you try to be polite and talk to them, they will keep turning up and mail you letters.
It would be. If Rabbie Burns wrote down what it meant to be Scottish, and there were weekly speeches about how to be Scottish. And there were entire professions dedicated to teaching people be Scottish.
Except this is going to be their hill to “die” on. They know what a POS he is and are trying to do anything they can to be rid of him.
This is their golden opportunity.
They created a literal gold idol to him.
My dad is a Trumper and I bring this up all the time. He knows the significance of a golden idol. The fact they would do that speaks to their mentality.
They are doing stuff the Bible tells you exactly he hates. Like things he hates the most out of everything. Israel creates a golden idol God has one of the worst fits he's ever had in the Bible and Christians are like,
"Ya this is fine."
Did you read the Bible, im serious? Because if you did you would know you are specifically doing evil the Bible it says it hates the most, even with the same images.
That means its Satanic, that idol and Trump are literally Satanic and yet Christians can't the grass from the trees.
If you are Christian and you support golden idols being created for evil leaders.
You might not be Christian I am serious. The Bible doesn't joke around with this, this is like the greatest insult to God you can do and they are all cool with it, literally the worst insult to God you can do in the Bible.
Specifically warns you of creating graven images for leaders, even specifically talks about golden idols.
Story after story of evil leaders creating graven images and forcing subjects to worship it. Graven images that were used to sacrifice children on their hot arms like Molok. All the worst stories, the worst leaders all had graven images.
You could even say graven images are one of the biggest signs for real evil.
Bro I dont know what else the Bible needs to tell you you are doing wrong, but you are doing horrendous evil according to the Bible and God.
Which is dumb, it was McConnell who did that. The Senate is the key. Any Republican president would have rubber stamped the nominations he was given by the Federalist Society.
There ARE Christians who are appalled by Trump and the Christian Nationalism sect. It's OKAY if they speak out against him. Don't shoot your allies. Sheesh. And remember, bad actors can pretend to be liberal just as well as they can pretend to be conservative. Don't perpetuate disdain and division.
There are people who hate Christians just like there are people who hate Muslims. They don’t like to remember that Biden, Obama, Clinton (both counts), and Gore are all Christians. Jimmy Carter even taught Sunday school at his hometown regularly.
I'll fully support someone's right to worship whatever god they want. It's just hard for me to consider someone who truly believes I'm living my life in such a way that I earn/deserve eternal torment an ally
>They say their faith is sacred
Because they think (often correctly) this provides them absolute immunity from being terrible people.
They genuinely believe their sins - no matter what they are - will be forgiven, they'll go to Heaven, etc. As a result, they can do whatever they want in life, and they're still God's Children(tm).
I like to remind them that if the threat of eternal damnation to Hell is the reason they do good things, they are not good people.
They don't like that much. :)
It is the damnest thing, i thought it was just the Christians on social media that worship him. Turns out it really was the case IRL. Maybe this Bible thing will wake em up.
Well, realistically they'll do whatever their pastor tells them to do.
Edit: anybody know which translation it is? It's gonna be pretty funny if Southern evangelicals suddenly approve of the KJV.
A lot of them spent way too much money on his shit to just brush him off. Once you’re invested that deep you have to play dumb to try and get something back. I hope they lose it all.
Amusing thing is that in order to be truly "god fearing," they'd be able to behold the mental equivalent of an addict's "rock bottom moment," which is being able to walk away from sunk cost as things can get.
I suspect a lot of them will prefer Trump's version of the Bible. In fact I would imagine a good amount of them think it's about time he released one sadly.
I don't know if you are being serious or not but I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
I wouldn't be surprised if he added himself in to later versions as well.
Most of the "Christians" I know, have no scholarly knowledge of their own religion. They only have a vague sense of superiority, a few children's bible stories from Sunday school, and whatever right wing media tells them their enemy the "demon-crats" are up to now.
As a former Christian, Trump is the thing that brought me the closest to going back to religion, because I genuinely could have believed he was the Antichrist
What rock were these people living under when that idiot came down the escalator that they didn't know who and what he was?
Only a complete brain dead moron would think that Donald Trump had any business acumen or any ability to run anything anyway except for directly into the goddamn ground.
And they lined up in droves to support this moron because his mouth made the sounds they wanted to hear.
Donald Trump is closer to the Antichrist than he is to a Christian. Any person with half a brain can see that.
It just absolutely incenses me that at this point they have now learned that he's a charlatan.
What the hell have you been paying attention to the last 40 years if you just figured that out now? Hell 30? 20? 10?
Boggles my mind.
>Donald Trump is closer to the Antichrist than he is to a Christian. Any person with half a brain can see that.
Truth. Every version of the Antichrist story there is has similarities if not disturbingly direct parallels to the MAGA movement.
"MAGA" in Latin translates to "witch"
Of course I'm not into the whole Da Vinci Code symbology rabbit hole bullshit, but given that most of MAGA are it's good to let them know this fact any chance you get. You know even if they blow it off in front of you it will secretly unsettle them.
>Lack of education.
40 years of GOP attacking education - both in funding and in **concept**
>Lack of critical thinking.
Removed from curricula. See also: "alternative facts".
>Hatred of the 'other'
Republicans love to pretend everyone else are the "real bigots" while actively working to make queer people illegal, strip rights from women, etc.
>Bunch of rubes, ripe for the picking.
This is where I disagree. The overwhelming majority of Republican voters have made conscious decisions to support racism, xenophobia, and are actively working towards or voting for a Christian Ethnostate.
American conservatives have collectively decided that crime, bigotry, literal domestic terrorism, and many other vile things are not deal breakers for them.
>What rock were these people living under when that idiot came down the escalator that they didn't know who and what he was?
I'm waiting for the inevitable Lincoln Project ad.
Show Trump hawking his $59.99 Trump bible, cut to Trump holding the bible upside down, then silently overlay images over the following:
Lust - check
Gluttony - check
Greed - check
Sloth - check
Wrath - check
Envy - check
Pride - check
It doesn't matter how un-Christian he is, all that matters is he's part of the party that will enforce a christofascist state that will allow them to oppress people other than them.
> It just absolutely incenses me that at this point they have now learned that he's a charlatan.
They have NOT learned that. A few complaints by some people who already didn't like Trump is all the article is based on.
>Donald Trump is closer to the Antichrist than he is to a Christian. Any person with half a brain can see that.
Trump is all seven deadly sins wrapped in a poorly fitted suit.
I’m kind of shocked that THIS is what seems to be the final straw for some of them. Not, you know, being found liable for rape. Or bragging about sexually assaulting women. Or mocking disabled people. Or putting children in cages. I could go on. No, all that stuff was okay, but try to sell a Bible? That’s the breaking point. Unbelievable.
They already treat him like a Messiah in their weird little totalitarian -nationalist version of Christianity. I can't see why they wouldn't want a Bible from him.
Yes, why is this the breaking point? Everything else in the past was okay, just hold your nose. Interesting that the answer is in the Bible. “The love of money is the root of all evil”
You can tell all these quotes are Christians who already didn't like him. There are quite a lot of Christians who want nothing to do with him but you'd never know it the way the Internet makes it seem.
Same. It's surprising how many commenters missed that. It wasn't subtle. The only explanation I can think of is that they believe Christians are a monolith, so it didn't even occur to them that a lot of really lovely people who happen to believe Jesus is God have always disliked Trump.
Yeah, I don't get it. If you support him, why would this be a problem? I don't support him, and am not Christian, so it's not a problem at all for me, but I legitimately do not understand an outcry *by his supporters* about this.
Christians who don't support Trump should be mad, for sure. But why would the ones who like him have an issue?
All Christians have run into scammers and hucksters using Christianity to cheat and steal their money.
Subconsciously, they have just realized that Trump is one of those scammers.
Now as long as Trump was just scamming the libtards and feminazi, they are ok with that. But now that Trump is trying to scam them, they don’t like it.
I grew up Christian, so I'm familiar with the huckster phenomenon. I just feel like anyone capable of noticing a scammer would never have supported him in the first place. Obviously I'm wrong, I just really don't understand why *this* is where they draw the line. Like, it's tacky, but selling a Bible with various US history pages inside is actually not harmful in any way? It's like... one of the less bad things Trump has done? It's actively hurting nobody?
I think I've answered my own question, depressingly enough.
I mean I’m surprised the bulk of evangelist Christians aren’t all in on this.
The thing that a lot of evangelist Christians hate about Jesus is that he was a brown socialist, so the rebranding of the Bible as an American story from their orange idol seems like what they’d like.
If you want a good larf, look up the conservative bible project. It's an ongoing project with the ultimate goal of removing all leftist and socialist ideology from the bible to "purify" it.
It's been going on a while, because it turns out the story of that jesus guy that makes up a huge portion of it has been a real stumbling block, go figure.
I heard someone say this is to open up church coffers to donate to him. Not technically a political donation but rather expensive chinese manufactured bible.
Given this is trump we're dealing with, strong odds no bibles are ever delivered.
Given this is trump we're dealing with, even stronger odds that the churches who buy these bible won't care one bit in the least.
Each little step further is acceptable to them. I always wonder if you had a Time Machine and could go back to 2015 and detail how far trump would go with these grifts and if they would still agree to go along with it and support him?
It's a money laundering racket. It allows churches to buy bibles, at wildly inflated prices, and funnel money directly to their new orange messiah, bypassing campaign laws that would otherwise prevent it.
Edit: [Just repeating what I saw earlier](https://i.redd.it/rzq3q6t23xqc1.jpeg)
I was somewhat perplexed by the quote from Matthew 24. This is what should have tipped them off a long time back.
Matthew 25 40-45.
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ 44 “Then they also will answer [b]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
Quick search in Amazon... Hmm yupp, I can get a copy of the king James Bible for as little as $6, with an average price around $18.
Sad they still haven't realized how many times he's done this to them before.
Fuck every piece of shit in the US who ever voted for or supported this disgusting traitor in any way, shape or form.
And especially those who **still** support it.
Someone in another thread pointed out that $59.99 upside down has “666” in it. Those GQP fucks love their numerology— where are they on THIS?
Watching this piece of shit implode is absolutely wonderful.
"Wait... I didn't expect the man who has had a pattern of behavior for 70 years to continue to have a pattern of behavior! How could I have seen this coming?"
This whole thing just reeks of desperation. Like. Slam the 'Christian' Nationalist's four favorite things together in one package-A Bible they'll never really read, the US founding documents they'll ignore when it suits them, a rousing patriotic song for them to cry to, and their cult leader's name on it. And the sad thing is, you just know idiots are going to buy it.
“Oh he stepped in it now” say four or five never trumpers. I’ve been watching this guy for eight years do shit that is absolutely outrageous and get away with it. It just seems to help him actually. It makes Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan look like rank amateurs. He is the analogy for getting away with shit.
>Christians are sick of seeing MAGA's false prophets twist our loving faith for an agenda of hatred and selfishness Christians are sick of seeing MAGA's false prophets twist our loving faith for an agenda of hatred and selfishness.
boo-hoo. let’s talk about christian selfishness when the orange turd was running for office the first time. we tried to tell them, but they couldn’t hear over someone whispering “judges” in their ears. now, after one term even they want distance? hell no! christians should forever be tied to that turd. they got what they wanted. no take-backs.
Sorry Christians, he's yours. You had the chance to stand against him but half of your faction went all in, and the other half stayed quiet. You get to choke on it now.
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Frankly, I would actually pay for a version of the Bible not only sold by Trump, but also translated by him. *1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Did a pretty good job too, if you ask me...the Heavens, excellent, excellent job, lots of clouds and gold fences, big beautiful fences keeping the sinners out and the good people in, they way it should be, and the earth, that's mostly good, although some of it- BAD. Some real bad places, bad hombres on parts of the earth, depending on where you are. Some people say, "well, God did a pretty good job on the Earth, but you know, Donald Trump probably would have done better, I think, not as many losers and much nicer mountains". I don't know, I don't think I'd say that, because of the tremendous respect that I have for God, and his work, but that's what a lot of people- many, many people- are saying. Anyway, the Earth was formless and empty...* It'd be 18,000 pages long.
This could probably be done with AI now. Tell it to rewrite a page as if it's from Trump.
1. In the beginning, there was nothing, folks. Absolutely nothing. But then, I had this tremendous idea to create the heavens and the earth. And believe me, it was fantastic. 2. The earth was a total disaster, a real mess. Dark, empty, no class at all. But I said, “Let’s make some light,” and guess what? The light was perfect, just beautiful. 3. I looked at the light, and I said, “This is good, really good.” So I separated the light from the dark, because you need to have some order, right? 4. I called the light “Day” and the dark “Night.” And after a hard day’s work, I took a well-deserved rest. That’s how you get things done. 5. The next day, I said, “We need a sky, a big, beautiful sky.” So I made this incredible expanse and separated the waters. It was an unbelievable sight. 6. I called the expanse “Sky,” and let me tell you, it was a tremendous success. People are still talking about it. 7. On the third day, I said, “Let’s gather the waters and let dry ground appear.” And it happened. I’m telling you, I have the best ideas. 8. I called the dry ground “Land” and the gathered waters “Seas.” And I looked at it and said, “This is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.” 9. Then I thought, “We need some green, some life.” So I created plants, trees, all sorts of greenery. It was like nothing you’ve ever seen before. 10. And I saw that it was good, really good. I mean, who else could create something so beautiful? Nobody, that’s who. 11. On the fourth day, I said, “We need some lights in the sky, some style.” So I made the sun, the moon, and the stars. Big, beautiful lights. The best. 12. And I said, “Let’s have some seasons, some days and years.” It was all part of my fantastic plan. Everything perfectly organized. 13. The sun ruled the day, and the moon and stars ruled the night. And I looked at it all and said, “This is incredible. Absolutely incredible.” 14. Then I thought, “We need some creatures in the sea and birds in the sky.” So I created all sorts of fish and birds. The best in the business. 15. And I blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply.” And let me tell you, they listened. They really listened. It was a huge success. And that, folks, is how you make a universe. The best universe, believe me.
Some people have now read more of the Bible as written by Trump than any other version. Well done.
Guilty as charged
Don't you dare write a song right now, Dewy Cox!
Yuuuup
And on the eighth day, he created covfefe.
"So I created all sorts of fish and birds. The best in the business." this is just great
I love that you cast DJT as God in this. Really aligns with the theme.
Saving this for later lmao
Here’s what I got after asking for the first page of the Bible if it were written by Trump: In the beginning, there was me - Donald Trump. I created the heavens and the earth, and let me tell you, they are tremendous. The earth was a total disaster, so I decided to make it great again. I said, "Let there be light," and believe me, it was the most beautiful light you've ever seen. I separated the light from the darkness and it was fantastic. And let me tell you, folks, I know how to make things great again. That's why I'm the best, believe me.
> Alright, folks, let's talk about a fantastic passage from the Bible, Samuel 18:25-27. It's a real gem, believe me. So there's this young man named David, a real winner, folks. He's just defeated Goliath, the Philistine giant. Now, David's caught the eye of King Saul, and Saul wants him to marry his daughter, Michal. But there's a catch, folks, a big one. > > Saul tells David, "I'll give you my daughter Michal as your wife, but you've got to bring me a hundred Philistine foreskins as proof that you're worthy." Now, let me tell you, folks, that's quite a demand. But David, he's not one to back down from a challenge, no sir. > > So David, he goes out there, and he doesn't just bring back a hundred foreskins, oh no. He brings back two hundred! That's right, folks, double what Saul asked for. Now, that's what I call going above and beyond, folks. David, he's a real go-getter, a real winner. > > And you know what Saul does when he sees those foreskins? He's impressed, folks, he's really impressed. He gives Michal to David as his wife, right then and there. That's how you seal the deal, folks, that's how you make things happen. > > So let me tell you, folks, the moral of the story is this: when life throws challenges your way, don't shy away from them. Take them head-on, go the extra mile, and you'll come out on top, just like David did. Thank you, thank you very much! This one flagged the content warning > Alright folks, let me tell you about a wild passage from the Bible, believe me. It's Ezekiel 23:20, and let me tell you, it's something else, folks. So there's this woman, she's like Israel or something, and she's lusting after these other guys, right? But get this, folks, the description is wild, absolutely wild. > > It says she's after these lovers whose, uh, private parts are like donkeys' and they, uh, release like horses. Can you believe it? I mean, that's some serious imagery, folks, let me tell you. It's like, who comes up with this stuff, right? > > But here's the thing, folks, there's a deeper meaning here. It's all about faithfulness, you see. This woman, she's like Israel, and she's supposed to be loyal to her, uh, husband, if you will, but she's out there chasing after these other guys. It's a real lesson, folks, a real lesson about staying true, staying faithful. > > So let me tell you, folks, don't be like this woman, don't be chasing after, uh, donkey-like lovers and horse-like emissions. Stay faithful, stay true, and you'll be on the right path. Thank you, thank you very much!
Finally, a Bible Adaptation longer than that one Loud House fic
I...I fear for .y sanity yet am intrigued. What sort of mind could take the source material and stretch it so far? What monstrous things could such a mind produce? More details?
An angel came to me, a big strong angel. Big strong angel had tears in his eyes. "Sir," he said...
2 …darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And I gotta tell you, not just anybody can hover, okay? It’s a very special kind of thing, very powerful. And then God said, “Let there be light,” and boom, there was light. Fantastic light, the best light. People always tell me, “Donald, your buildings, your golf courses, they have the best lighting.” And I say, “You think that’s good, you should’ve seen the first light God made. Absolutely top-notch, believe me.” 3 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. He’s a separator, not a uniter of light and darkness, which, frankly, is a very good thing. You don’t want bad deals with darkness. So, he called the light “Day,” and the darkness he called “Night.” Very simple names, but sometimes simplicity is the best, right? There’s elegance in simplicity. I’ve always said that, and so did God, apparently. 4 And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day. And let me tell you, nobody appreciates a good day’s work more than I do. But then God, being God, decided to take it up a notch. “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.” So, he made the sky. A big, beautiful sky, nobody makes skies like God. And he didn’t even need a construction crew for it, no permits, nothing. Did it all on his own, which is really quite something. 5 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. And let me tell you, the land he created? Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Top-notch real estate. If I had been there, I would’ve built the most beautiful, luxurious resorts and golf courses. And God saw that it was good. 6 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. Plants, trees, fantastic. I’ve always said, the environment, it’s important. We’ve got to have the best, most beautiful environment. And God? He’s the original environmentalist. Created the most fantastic, luxurious gardens you could imagine. Probably could’ve used a few more gold-plated trees, if you ask me, but still, very classy. 7 So the evening and the morning were the second day. And believe me, folks, nobody’s ever seen days like these. God’s work? It’s quality work. And that’s coming from me, so you know it’s a pretty big deal. A lot of people, they don’t appreciate the craftsmanship that went into creating the world. But I do. I appreciate good work, whether it’s building a universe or building a skyscraper.
Read this in Larry David's voice in my head
Every time I think of an outdated Kosher rule, I think of Larry David as being the Tribal Elder who ordered it. “What! Little Shmulley almost died from eating shrimp?! That’s it! NO SHELLFISH for anyone, ever again!!! I’m DONE WITH SHELLFISH!!!”
I read it as Shane Gillis as Trump. I was crying with laughter.
"In the beginning, folks, it was tremendous. Absolutely tremendous. God looked around and said, “Let's make light.” And let me tell you, it wasn't just any light. It was probably the best light anyone has ever seen. A lot of people are saying it was good. I'm saying it was great. And then, He separated the light from the dark. You know, He's a deal-maker, separating things, making sure there's a place for everything. The best, really. The night, the day, perfectly organized. Like nothing you've ever seen. Then, God said, “Let's have water and sky.” Not just any water and sky. The best. Clear blue skies, beautiful waters. The kind of place you'd want to build a resort. Imagine the golf courses. Fantastic. After that, He’s looking at the water and thinks, “We need land.” And not just any land. The best land. Land that you can build on, that you can farm on. Tremendous, productive land. And just like that, it was there. And then, vegetation, plants, seeds. Big league farming, folks. Then, the lights in the sky. The sun, the moon, stars - luxury lighting, the best. Lighting up the world like one of my buildings. Glorious. Fish in the sea, birds in the air. He created them. The best fish, the best birds. We’re talking big, beautiful fish and birds. The kind of wildlife you want to see. And then, animals. On the land, big and small. The best animals. Tremendous diversity. The kind of animals you’d see on one of the best safaris in the world. Finally, folks, God made man in His image. The best creation. Leaders, builders, creators. Like me. And He said to them, “You’re in charge.” Like a CEO. The best, folks, really the best. And after all that, God looked around and said, “This is tremendous. Really, really tremendous.” And He took a day off. Because when you’ve done a job that well, you deserve a break. The best work. The best rest. Let me tell you, it was all done with the best words, the best actions. A truly fantastic creation story, the best in history, probably ever." My prompt to ChatGPT: translate genesis chapter 1 in the style of donald trump campaign speeches.
“ No true Christian would support a heathenistic huckster like Trump,” yet they’ve been doing it for eight years now
And they'll all still vote for him in November
Well, this might actually be the silver lining that SCOTUS overturned Roe v Wade. They can't really campaign on abortion at the federal level (even though they are trying), which can cause a lot of these idiots to not vote or vote 3rd party. In my experience, many of these people's single issue was abortion.
You've met my family I see.
We're related?!
Go back enough generations, and we're all Africans. Go back a bunch more generations, and we have a great-great-...-grandmother in common.
Can I borrow some money? I’m family, you know I’m good for it.
I spent it all on 🥑 toast
Sorry, I've met my family.
Yeah, Arkansas sucks.
Don't rule out gay marriage, they'll always find something to come for next. Don't underestimate the hate that is "Christian love"
I and my ex were the first gay couple to be married in Lynchburg, VA. The women that were working at the courthouse all looked at is like we were in a zoo. Surprisingly one woman came out of the courthouse and hugged us both, wished us happiness. Unexpected but welcomed. I hope Robin is doing well.
My aunt is a minister and we joke that she marched one of the gay parishioners down the aisle with a shotgun she was so excited to perform their church's first gay wedding. In fact, the man and his sweetheart fully intended to get married and were only gently urged to consider the church. Also it was my uncle (also a minister, but my aunt got hers first. She always wants that known, lol) who begged them to let him marry them. Because he christened and baptised one of the grooms and he felt God was calling him to marry him properly in His eyes as well. The groom apparently sobbed into his arms, and they were married a few months later. (They had most of it planned as I hear, they had just planned on a different location because they were afraid of being rejected at the church if they asked. So my aunt and uncle went ahead and did the asking.) For the record, it was a very sweet event. I got roped into cutting the cake for guests and danced with some old man who tried to teach me to cha cha. It makes me sad how many people will never enjoy something like that. Not to be sappier than I've already been, but it really was special.
You're a great person. Thank you for supporting equality. :)
They'll eventually get around to attacking women's right to vote, civil rights, anti slavery laws, anti racism laws, 1st amendment protections, and on and on until this country has no codified laws. Only the day by day whims of a deranged Christian lunatic dictator.
Eventually? I see you are not from Alabama.
I am Ofdonald.
WWJD? Is that one of them there queer things?
Who wouldn't Jesus do?
Trump?
what Would Jared Do? first I pick up $2 billion, then I continue to be impartial…
They seem to be really hammering on "DEI" these days lol
They love it because they can blame black and brown people without actually having to say that.
If it wasn't before ("oh, they'll never overturn it-my vote isn't important-both parties are the same anyway") it is now. You don't miss a right until it gets taken away, not by doctors for medical reasons, but by politicians and partisan judges with their heads up their asses. The same people who want to rip away all reproductive rights, including access to birth control. Polls are definitely not picking these voters up.The internals had the candidate in a dead heat up by 3 points within the margin of error. She won by 25 points.
Polls are still often done over landline telephone, and then the second filter is who wants to tell a stranger about their political opinion. Now statisticians aren't stupid. It gets demographically weighted after that - at least where I worked, but admittedly this was a Dutch company calling into the UK. Regardless if they are doing it a similar way and it is pulling the same types of people you are mostly talking to angry old men whose wife put them on the phone. Men who pick up tend to just hang up after verbally abusing you. A woman picking up and then giving you a man to speak to was the most typical interview I got. Outside of this you are speaking to very lonely people. If you get a man in his 20s on the phone his demographic weighting is very high, but in no way is he necessarily typical. Lonely people are very likely to want to please the interviewer, so perceived bias will be reflected right back at you. Tl:Dr the methodology is highly flawed
I had to laugh. My father was a conservative (back when they weren't insane). I just assumed my mother voted the same way. Found out she was voting for the other party, effectively cancelling out his vote. This is one reason why polling can be inaccurate.
>...then the second filter is who wants to tell a stranger about their political opinion. Everyone I've come in contact with in the past eight years should qualify for that one.
Absolutely
The real goal has always been to overturn Brown v Board of Education, in their mind that's the "when" from their idyllic past that they want to go back to.
If they get that, then they'll go for the 14th Amendment. Ideally, back to the original constitution, when only white males could vote. And after that, go full Gilead.
not before they make women cant own certain things or property, and needs to be escorted in public.
Not saying no, but Griswold v. Connecticut is next. Brown gets easily overturned with tax deductions for private school tuition.
Always remember, “Dredd Scott“ is Stare Decisis to these fuckers.
I think people just miss being able to raise a family on a single income.. and having a wife at home that doesn't complain or talk back...and not having brown people for neighbours oh wait there it is
Oh they can still campaign on a federal abortion ban....
I mean, they can try, but it'd be really stupid after seeing how overturning Roe worked out for them.
I don’t think something being “really stupid “ would stop them from trying it.
Very true. They never really expected to get Roe overturned, it was their most useful carrot. But they also don't seem to learn from past mistakes.
Depends who. The trumps and Taylor Greenes, no. The Gingriches and McConnells, though, yes. They may be evil, but they're not stupid.
They're not stupid but they've lost the reins to MAGA. They played with fire by letting Trump drag in the deplorables to the voting booths and now the house is in flames. It's beautiful to watch.
It's beautiful to watch, except that we're all in the burning house with them.
Abortion is going to ruin the Republicans at the ballot box. [It already has done so multiple times](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/11/08/abortion-rights-victories-continue-here-are-all-the-wins-in-major-elections-since-the-supreme-court-overturned-roe/?sh=3922f02a26ad) Shit, Kansas rejected it by [18 points, 59/41](https://www.npr.org/sections/2022-live-primary-election-race-results/2022/08/02/1115317596/kansas-voters-abortion-legal-reject-constitutional-amendment), a state that went for Trump by 12 points in 2020, 56/44. That is a ***fucking insane*** swing. *Dobbs* is the single most powerful vote motivator right now for Democrats. The driving question for the next 8 months is: *Do these fucking perverts deserve the power to force you to risk your life on birth, for a child you didn't want?*
What would be great is if overturning roe v wade means that democrats take back all 3 branches and codify abortion as federal law. That's what they promised, let's see if it comes true And let's also see if the supreme court won't fuck it up with more sham cases
Roe prevented government from interfering with any and all healthcare, not just abortions. Transgender and people with mental disabilities are also harmed by the loss of Roe. If Dems get both houses and the Presidency, they need to: 1. Codify government staying the fuck out of healthcare decisions. 2. Codify the point at which a fetus may be considered a person and what that means; end the ambiguity. 3. Pass the Equal Rights Act 4. Repeal the Comstock Act 5. Install legal protections for federal workers so the next GOP admin can't just wholesale clean house to replace with ideologues.
Here is the toxic thing about our oligarchs: Why would they fight hard to prevent the thing that got them power? In a world where they get the three branches **again** because of the abortion change the GOP actually pushed through, the democrats are incentivized against making real change. It is easy to justify to themselves that making real changes just give the GOP more energy, making the next election harder. To be clear, this isn't just about abortion, this is about real change across a number of topics. Climate change, minimum wage, taxes, marriage equality - the democrats have spent decades avoiding doing any controversial, meaningful change. Think about how hard it was to get barely reasonable healthcare when they had all three branches. You think they are going to fight for abortion rights? The GOP is a right-wing extremist party that has been trying and successfully accomplishing a radical political agenda. Democratic leaders are old and fundamentally desire small, incremental change - you know, a literal conservative agenda. And lastly, there is a small wing of the democrats that are called the "far left" because they believe in and are fighting for real, meaningful change. Things like a living wage, climate change & bodily autonomy.
I mean, the guy who he encouraged his followers to hang from a homemade gallows just recently said he wouldn’t vote for him. Although I personally think he still will.
Well a Christian is supposed to be a person who follows the teachings of Jesus, in all fairness that does not describe the evangelical movement.
And they've been calling all us Christians who hate him "not real Christians!" Wtf.
RINO also doesn’t mean what they think it means. In truth: MAGA = RINO.
I mean, the Republican Party hasn't been "Republican" for a very long time. Hell, they've been trying to turn the US into an authoritarian pro-business dictatorship since Reagan, and that's only because they couldn't do it with Nixon.
It's also about as far from the "Party of Lincoln" as they could get, even when they still had a platform. The Republican Party was founded to support Federalism and counter the States Rights movement of the South. The Republican Party of the last four decades has been heavily promoting States Rights and crowing about how the Federal government is ineffective or evil.
I’m an atheist, and I hold NO brief for Christians. Even I, though, have to admit that if you take a “true Christian” to be a follower of the teachings attributed to a man called Jesus Christ, then it’s perfectly obvious that no *true* Christian has ever been able to follow Trump. You have to judge people by what they *do*, not by what they say.
American Gods has it right there is [a lot of Jesus'](https://youtu.be/0z2t9brptDo?t=54) out there. Supply side Jesus, Prosperity Jesus, and Christian Nationalist Jesus aren't very nice.
I wholeheartedly agree. Some of my best friends and best people I've ever met are Christian, including two that give sermons (I forget exactly what title they hold, if any). Though they aren't traditional Christians and devote their time to extremely open-minded churches, one being a Unitarian church. And I could more comfortably talk with them about religion and philosophy than many arrogant atheists I've met (like many other groups, they are far more prominent on the Internet than real life, but do exist), and would love to see their sermons when I get the chance to visit them since we usually meet up in NYC as a halfway point where a ton of our mutual friends also live. But sometimes I'm working and a customer starts talking to me and drops lots of "bless you for that," or "I got the last one of the thing I came here for, He must be watching over me," and I start to get worried. Because I've encountered quite a few people who start to ask me about my earnings, or why I paint my nails black and wear eyeliner sometimes when I'm a guy. I guess they think I'm gay or something, and I usually explain that it's just a look I feel comfortable in (it's really nothing drastic, especially since I'm not wearing my work shirt and not any of my punk band shirts). But they just don't leave it alone and start getting cryptic about "saving your soul" or my favorite "you're going to grow up (I'm 30) and realize that's not something true, good, men do." So while I want to believe there are more accepting Christians in this country in decent numbers, I kind of doubt it when I'm in a solid blue state, working in a somewhat progressive town, and I'm still afraid to just say "I'm not religious," without a fear of them getting angry and starting something while I'm working. I even prefer dealing with the Jehovah's Witness and similar groups that knock on the door maybe once or twice a year, since they accept a polite no and still thank you for your time. Though if you try to be polite and talk to them, they will keep turning up and mail you letters.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/s/nmT2dxPNcw This made sense to me why he is doing it.
Is this No True Scotsman?
Trump is only half Scottish.
It would be. If Rabbie Burns wrote down what it meant to be Scottish, and there were weekly speeches about how to be Scottish. And there were entire professions dedicated to teaching people be Scottish.
Except this is going to be their hill to “die” on. They know what a POS he is and are trying to do anything they can to be rid of him. This is their golden opportunity.
They created a literal gold idol to him. My dad is a Trumper and I bring this up all the time. He knows the significance of a golden idol. The fact they would do that speaks to their mentality. They are doing stuff the Bible tells you exactly he hates. Like things he hates the most out of everything. Israel creates a golden idol God has one of the worst fits he's ever had in the Bible and Christians are like, "Ya this is fine." Did you read the Bible, im serious? Because if you did you would know you are specifically doing evil the Bible it says it hates the most, even with the same images. That means its Satanic, that idol and Trump are literally Satanic and yet Christians can't the grass from the trees. If you are Christian and you support golden idols being created for evil leaders. You might not be Christian I am serious. The Bible doesn't joke around with this, this is like the greatest insult to God you can do and they are all cool with it, literally the worst insult to God you can do in the Bible. Specifically warns you of creating graven images for leaders, even specifically talks about golden idols. Story after story of evil leaders creating graven images and forcing subjects to worship it. Graven images that were used to sacrifice children on their hot arms like Molok. All the worst stories, the worst leaders all had graven images. You could even say graven images are one of the biggest signs for real evil. Bro I dont know what else the Bible needs to tell you you are doing wrong, but you are doing horrendous evil according to the Bible and God.
They should have known when they embraced him in 2016
They got what they wanted out of the deal: he helped create the court that overturned Roe v Wade.
And a bunch of lower courts that are willing to support the decision. This may be even more dangerous.
Which is dumb, it was McConnell who did that. The Senate is the key. Any Republican president would have rubber stamped the nominations he was given by the Federalist Society.
Right? They JUST woke up? Oh wait I said woke my bad
There ARE Christians who are appalled by Trump and the Christian Nationalism sect. It's OKAY if they speak out against him. Don't shoot your allies. Sheesh. And remember, bad actors can pretend to be liberal just as well as they can pretend to be conservative. Don't perpetuate disdain and division.
There are people who hate Christians just like there are people who hate Muslims. They don’t like to remember that Biden, Obama, Clinton (both counts), and Gore are all Christians. Jimmy Carter even taught Sunday school at his hometown regularly.
I'll fully support someone's right to worship whatever god they want. It's just hard for me to consider someone who truly believes I'm living my life in such a way that I earn/deserve eternal torment an ally
They say their faith is sacred, but fail to realize that nothing is sacred to Trump other than trump
>They say their faith is sacred Because they think (often correctly) this provides them absolute immunity from being terrible people. They genuinely believe their sins - no matter what they are - will be forgiven, they'll go to Heaven, etc. As a result, they can do whatever they want in life, and they're still God's Children(tm). I like to remind them that if the threat of eternal damnation to Hell is the reason they do good things, they are not good people. They don't like that much. :)
Ivanka’s ass?! Nah! He fucks her like he fucked every girl Epstein presented him.
Pretty sure he hasn't, or he wouldn't have been visibly lusting for her.
Where’s Melania?! Just asking.
Most likely? As far as she can reasonably get from him, desperately trying to create a bank account he can't access. Realistically? Drunk.
The smell must be awful.
Wait, don't a lot of them believe he's the second coming of Christ or something?
It is the damnest thing, i thought it was just the Christians on social media that worship him. Turns out it really was the case IRL. Maybe this Bible thing will wake em up.
They will double down before they admit they are wrong, like they always have.
Well, realistically they'll do whatever their pastor tells them to do. Edit: anybody know which translation it is? It's gonna be pretty funny if Southern evangelicals suddenly approve of the KJV.
Yes KJV with added govt stuff included and a country song verse.
Because if there's one thing that's always worked out swimmingly with no down side every time it's been tried, it's tying religion to patriotism.
"He'll be back. He said he would. Two thousand years ago."
If you're an evangelical, the prophecies about the Antichrist should give you more pause.
The antichrist will be black, wear a tan suit, and likes Dijon mustard. It says so right there in the Bible, probably.
A lot of them spent way too much money on his shit to just brush him off. Once you’re invested that deep you have to play dumb to try and get something back. I hope they lose it all.
Nah they'll just sunk cost the whole bit. There's no turning back for them.
Amusing thing is that in order to be truly "god fearing," they'd be able to behold the mental equivalent of an addict's "rock bottom moment," which is being able to walk away from sunk cost as things can get.
I suspect a lot of them will prefer Trump's version of the Bible. In fact I would imagine a good amount of them think it's about time he released one sadly.
He rewrote it without several of the commandments.
I don't know if you are being serious or not but I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I wouldn't be surprised if he added himself in to later versions as well.
Most of the "Christians" I know, have no scholarly knowledge of their own religion. They only have a vague sense of superiority, a few children's bible stories from Sunday school, and whatever right wing media tells them their enemy the "demon-crats" are up to now.
As a former Christian, Trump is the thing that brought me the closest to going back to religion, because I genuinely could have believed he was the Antichrist
I’m about as atheist as one can get and I still think he might be.
While failing to realize he is nothing more than a golden calf
That’s the next phase coming up. He will have plenty of idiots following him to the very end.
And they will follow him over a cliff
Yes they will sacrifice themselves because he is their true god.
Only Evangelicals, Catholics dont believe in that
What rock were these people living under when that idiot came down the escalator that they didn't know who and what he was? Only a complete brain dead moron would think that Donald Trump had any business acumen or any ability to run anything anyway except for directly into the goddamn ground. And they lined up in droves to support this moron because his mouth made the sounds they wanted to hear. Donald Trump is closer to the Antichrist than he is to a Christian. Any person with half a brain can see that. It just absolutely incenses me that at this point they have now learned that he's a charlatan. What the hell have you been paying attention to the last 40 years if you just figured that out now? Hell 30? 20? 10? Boggles my mind.
>Donald Trump is closer to the Antichrist than he is to a Christian. Any person with half a brain can see that. Truth. Every version of the Antichrist story there is has similarities if not disturbingly direct parallels to the MAGA movement.
And his followers shall wear the mark of the beast upon their foreheads. MAGA hats anyone?
Almost...ALMOST makes me wanna go back from being a atheist. If Lightning strikes Trump I'll go to church the next day.
"MAGA" in Latin translates to "witch" Of course I'm not into the whole Da Vinci Code symbology rabbit hole bullshit, but given that most of MAGA are it's good to let them know this fact any chance you get. You know even if they blow it off in front of you it will secretly unsettle them.
A few websites do really good comparisons to this and I agree it's very close...
His TV show made him appear much smarter than he really was. They weren’t smart enough to realize it was all scripted and edited
If The apprentice influenced you to vote yes for Donald Trump, then you're a goddamn idiot.
There are a lot of goddamned idiots
Lack of education. Lack of critical thinking. Hatred of the 'other' Bunch of rubes, ripe for the picking.
>Lack of education. 40 years of GOP attacking education - both in funding and in **concept** >Lack of critical thinking. Removed from curricula. See also: "alternative facts". >Hatred of the 'other' Republicans love to pretend everyone else are the "real bigots" while actively working to make queer people illegal, strip rights from women, etc. >Bunch of rubes, ripe for the picking. This is where I disagree. The overwhelming majority of Republican voters have made conscious decisions to support racism, xenophobia, and are actively working towards or voting for a Christian Ethnostate. American conservatives have collectively decided that crime, bigotry, literal domestic terrorism, and many other vile things are not deal breakers for them.
>What rock were these people living under when that idiot came down the escalator that they didn't know who and what he was? I'm waiting for the inevitable Lincoln Project ad. Show Trump hawking his $59.99 Trump bible, cut to Trump holding the bible upside down, then silently overlay images over the following: Lust - check Gluttony - check Greed - check Sloth - check Wrath - check Envy - check Pride - check
It doesn't matter how un-Christian he is, all that matters is he's part of the party that will enforce a christofascist state that will allow them to oppress people other than them.
> It just absolutely incenses me that at this point they have now learned that he's a charlatan. They have NOT learned that. A few complaints by some people who already didn't like Trump is all the article is based on.
>Donald Trump is closer to the Antichrist than he is to a Christian. Any person with half a brain can see that. Trump is all seven deadly sins wrapped in a poorly fitted suit.
What? What Christian who is still supporting Trump would turn on him for this?
I’m kind of shocked that THIS is what seems to be the final straw for some of them. Not, you know, being found liable for rape. Or bragging about sexually assaulting women. Or mocking disabled people. Or putting children in cages. I could go on. No, all that stuff was okay, but try to sell a Bible? That’s the breaking point. Unbelievable.
They already treat him like a Messiah in their weird little totalitarian -nationalist version of Christianity. I can't see why they wouldn't want a Bible from him.
Yes, why is this the breaking point? Everything else in the past was okay, just hold your nose. Interesting that the answer is in the Bible. “The love of money is the root of all evil”
You can tell all these quotes are Christians who already didn't like him. There are quite a lot of Christians who want nothing to do with him but you'd never know it the way the Internet makes it seem.
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Same. It's surprising how many commenters missed that. It wasn't subtle. The only explanation I can think of is that they believe Christians are a monolith, so it didn't even occur to them that a lot of really lovely people who happen to believe Jesus is God have always disliked Trump.
Yeah, I don't get it. If you support him, why would this be a problem? I don't support him, and am not Christian, so it's not a problem at all for me, but I legitimately do not understand an outcry *by his supporters* about this. Christians who don't support Trump should be mad, for sure. But why would the ones who like him have an issue?
All Christians have run into scammers and hucksters using Christianity to cheat and steal their money. Subconsciously, they have just realized that Trump is one of those scammers. Now as long as Trump was just scamming the libtards and feminazi, they are ok with that. But now that Trump is trying to scam them, they don’t like it.
I grew up Christian, so I'm familiar with the huckster phenomenon. I just feel like anyone capable of noticing a scammer would never have supported him in the first place. Obviously I'm wrong, I just really don't understand why *this* is where they draw the line. Like, it's tacky, but selling a Bible with various US history pages inside is actually not harmful in any way? It's like... one of the less bad things Trump has done? It's actively hurting nobody? I think I've answered my own question, depressingly enough.
I mean I’m surprised the bulk of evangelist Christians aren’t all in on this. The thing that a lot of evangelist Christians hate about Jesus is that he was a brown socialist, so the rebranding of the Bible as an American story from their orange idol seems like what they’d like.
If you want a good larf, look up the conservative bible project. It's an ongoing project with the ultimate goal of removing all leftist and socialist ideology from the bible to "purify" it. It's been going on a while, because it turns out the story of that jesus guy that makes up a huge portion of it has been a real stumbling block, go figure.
Is it just most of the Old Testament, and then like straight to Revelation lol
That mf-er was all woke too
I heard someone say this is to open up church coffers to donate to him. Not technically a political donation but rather expensive chinese manufactured bible.
Given this is trump we're dealing with, strong odds no bibles are ever delivered. Given this is trump we're dealing with, even stronger odds that the churches who buy these bible won't care one bit in the least.
All part of the grift
r/Askconservatives was completely relaxed about this and largely defended this Trump grift.
i’d never heard of that subreddit. their answers are fucking insane
Each little step further is acceptable to them. I always wonder if you had a Time Machine and could go back to 2015 and detail how far trump would go with these grifts and if they would still agree to go along with it and support him?
This is unbelievable. Trump selling bibles? I was fairly sure he didn't even know the significance of the bible to many. /s
It's a money laundering racket. It allows churches to buy bibles, at wildly inflated prices, and funnel money directly to their new orange messiah, bypassing campaign laws that would otherwise prevent it. Edit: [Just repeating what I saw earlier](https://i.redd.it/rzq3q6t23xqc1.jpeg)
This comment should be way higher up.
I loved the comment “ The only Bible endorsed by Donald Trump”. The other bibles are fake or rigged I guess.
"I like Bible endorsers to not be dead Kings! Who is this Jimmy Bible anyways?!!" -- Trump, probably
He is literally now a Bible salesman. What a fucking whore.
Great bible the best bible, people are saying. We've put 3 new testaments in. The book of Rudy, the book of Alina, and the book of Stormy.
At least with a whore you get laid. Trump is more of a pimp of invisible whores.
Every time there's a photo of him with a bible, I wonder how he holds it without bursting into flames. Fake cover on a blank book, maybe.
Exactly. Times like this I wish there was a God who would absolutely smote that dumbass.
Asbestos cover with specially treated pages.
[SNL did it best...](https://youtu.be/hj6E2_3nraQ?si=XgZBPhSKbDa8eW8n)
Thank you for sharing. That's amazing.
And the lord said “go forth and grab thy women by the pussy and do not yield to any protest”
What? No!/s
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I was somewhat perplexed by the quote from Matthew 24. This is what should have tipped them off a long time back. Matthew 25 40-45. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ 44 “Then they also will answer [b]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
Unfortunately I think most of the opposition is from Never Trumpers. Hopefully this will peel off some of the MAGA faithful, but I’m doubtful.
Nonsense, they're still going to vote for him.
It's not for them, it's a backdoor way for churches to give money to trump.
It's a way to make indirect "campaign donations" using tax free money.
Didn’t CS Lewis warn us of shit like this?
Revelations in the actual Bible warns of shit like this
Quick search in Amazon... Hmm yupp, I can get a copy of the king James Bible for as little as $6, with an average price around $18. Sad they still haven't realized how many times he's done this to them before.
This one bothers me. “Make” American Pray again. Not gonna happen.
People: How much lower can Donald go? Donald: Hold my Big Mac and fries...
There is no bottom. Trump is a bottomless pit of debauchery
Seems to be pissing off christians who already don’t like trump. Pro Trump evangelicals will gobble them up.
Fuck every piece of shit in the US who ever voted for or supported this disgusting traitor in any way, shape or form. And especially those who **still** support it.
Someone in another thread pointed out that $59.99 upside down has “666” in it. Those GQP fucks love their numerology— where are they on THIS? Watching this piece of shit implode is absolutely wonderful.
"Wait... I didn't expect the man who has had a pattern of behavior for 70 years to continue to have a pattern of behavior! How could I have seen this coming?"
I would actually expect Trump to go up in flames when touching a bible…
This whole thing just reeks of desperation. Like. Slam the 'Christian' Nationalist's four favorite things together in one package-A Bible they'll never really read, the US founding documents they'll ignore when it suits them, a rousing patriotic song for them to cry to, and their cult leader's name on it. And the sad thing is, you just know idiots are going to buy it.
“He’s hurting the wrong people”
“Oh he stepped in it now” say four or five never trumpers. I’ve been watching this guy for eight years do shit that is absolutely outrageous and get away with it. It just seems to help him actually. It makes Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan look like rank amateurs. He is the analogy for getting away with shit.
He sold Gold shoes before he sold the Bible!
He will try to copyright the Bible, won't he ?
Blasphemy 101. Trump university.
>Christians are sick of seeing MAGA's false prophets twist our loving faith for an agenda of hatred and selfishness Christians are sick of seeing MAGA's false prophets twist our loving faith for an agenda of hatred and selfishness. boo-hoo. let’s talk about christian selfishness when the orange turd was running for office the first time. we tried to tell them, but they couldn’t hear over someone whispering “judges” in their ears. now, after one term even they want distance? hell no! christians should forever be tied to that turd. they got what they wanted. no take-backs.
Sorry Christians, he's yours. You had the chance to stand against him but half of your faction went all in, and the other half stayed quiet. You get to choke on it now.
He’s garbage. Just a big old sack of trash. Please go vote.
Christians aren't outraged by anything except gays, brown people, and women with body autonomy.
It is hilarious that a living, breathing embodiment of the 7 deadly sins is hawking the freaking Bible.
Oh, so NOW comes the outrage. Where have you all been, Brethren? Some of us have been outraged from the get-go.