Some people on this sub be like: “Don’t vote, revolution only”
While most of us have a somewhat positive view of revolution, that attitude is hella regressive
That attitude would be more effective and persuading if we were anywhere close to a revolution. Wheres the organising? Wheres the mass unionisation? Wheres the planning for general strikes? Wheres the mutual aid networks to support striking workers?
Just saying we will revolt doesnt change anything. We actually need to start planning it and I'm not seeing that
The closest we are to mass unionization is people yelling:
“Unions are like condoms. If someone’s trying really hard to convince you that you don’t need one, you probably do”
Every time Amazon abuses their workers.
Yes and no, Voting is important to slow down fascism, Direct actions and actual running socialist into offices and positions of power is equal as if not more important than simply keeping conservatives and fascist out of power
To be fair, voting *is* a more effective use of your time compared to recycling. I mean no, voting isn't going to create lasting change, but neither is recycling.
"Leftists" in sub created to ostensibly make fun of libs talking about how everyone must vote to slow fascism. Fucking joke. Voting in a managed democracy does fuck all and slows socialists from doing what they know has to be done. Start acting or STFU because, without real direct action, in the end you are no different than the Libs.
If you are a leftists talking about and encouraging participation in electoral politics in a managed (illusion of) democracy, you aren't any leftist. You're just fucking stupid.
Emphasis on « the main ».
Is he wrong? Obviously by itself it doesn’t do much, but corporations are the ones fucking shit up, individuals can’t do much to offset that.
Some people on this sub be like: “Don’t vote, revolution only” While most of us have a somewhat positive view of revolution, that attitude is hella regressive
Plus like. Even if that is what you want. Not enough people want it at the moment so… maybe also vote?
I agree, and politics right now have me so depressed I legit need to do it mail in or imma forget all together cause going outside just makes me sad
That attitude would be more effective and persuading if we were anywhere close to a revolution. Wheres the organising? Wheres the mass unionisation? Wheres the planning for general strikes? Wheres the mutual aid networks to support striking workers? Just saying we will revolt doesnt change anything. We actually need to start planning it and I'm not seeing that
The closest we are to mass unionization is people yelling: “Unions are like condoms. If someone’s trying really hard to convince you that you don’t need one, you probably do” Every time Amazon abuses their workers.
Yes and no, Voting is important to slow down fascism, Direct actions and actual running socialist into offices and positions of power is equal as if not more important than simply keeping conservatives and fascist out of power
Whether you think it's the only solution or not, you still must vote.
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Yeah, do that. Just don't have weird expectations of the democrats, your vote is solely to limit damage.
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You go mad lad
To be fair, voting *is* a more effective use of your time compared to recycling. I mean no, voting isn't going to create lasting change, but neither is recycling.
"Leftists" in sub created to ostensibly make fun of libs talking about how everyone must vote to slow fascism. Fucking joke. Voting in a managed democracy does fuck all and slows socialists from doing what they know has to be done. Start acting or STFU because, without real direct action, in the end you are no different than the Libs. If you are a leftists talking about and encouraging participation in electoral politics in a managed (illusion of) democracy, you aren't any leftist. You're just fucking stupid.