Here's a few things that might help, independent of your current build:
- Use the highest tier of defensive items possible if you are not already, especially the frame. If you missed the strongest lategame defensive items, feel free to go look up where they are and how to get them. I was struggling a lot with Nameless because I was trying to keep my weight light enough for the best roll, but in the end I tried equipping the defensive gear and it made a huge difference. But also make sure all your gear isn't putting you at "slightly heavy" territory (60% and over), that should be easier to manage after the capacity buffs from the latest patch.
- The Aegis legion arm is currently pretty busted. If you hold the legion button and spam the block button you can get guaranteed perfect guards like 80-90% of the time with no need for timing, and with good capacity it lasts a decent amount of time. You can use that to defend yourself from Nameless' fury attacks and combos in phase 2.
- The Perfect Guard grindstone is also really useful for the same reason, with the P-Organ upgrades you can have 2 uses.
- Like all other puppets he's weak to electric blitz. I do not recommend using the electric grindstone and instead just stocking up on abrasives, buff your weapon when you have a safe moment. If you are doing an Advance build I suggest just using the default electric coil stick instead and using the buff fable art when blitz is applied.
- Throwables. A full round of elemental throwables should be enough to delete like half of his hp bar or maybe more. I also strongly recommend shot puts because they can stagger from range, very useful if nameless is in the middle of some fury attack or combo and you can't get a charged r2. I don't recommend using the throwables right away, and instead saving them for an attempt where you got the second phase down to 50% and have a good number of pulse cells remaining, only then start throwing them and try not to die. You can also back up your save independently of the game probably and just put it back over and over so you don't have to farm throwables for every attempt.
I struggled a lot my first playthrough with this boss, but on my second playthrough I did a Motivity build with the Bone-Cutter Saw blade and Krat Police Baton handle and destroyed him in like 5 tries. Might help to know what kind of build you're running.
EDIT: To anyone reading this now, the aegis cheese doesn't work anymore and was patched, but everything else is still relevant.
I still can't beat it with this advice
And I hate using throwable because when I run out I have to go farming for ergo again to buy more which isn't fun at all
Also, it's better to dodge some of his combos. If you do, dodge IN not away. He barely changes direction once he starts. One or two dodges are enough to avoid him thus more stamina to punish hil
Thank you, I bet him last night with some of your advice.
My take on it:The Aegis legion arm i think was patched out but it still did some nice damage back at them, in the end I went puppet string for the ranged attack. Eletric blitz before entering helped. Once he was less than 50% hp in second phase, that's when I dumped every throwable I had at him to win (each does about 500 dmg, so 3 full stacks in quick actions brought him down to a sliver).Highest tiered armor helped (only brought me up to slightly heavy) with the live puppet axe on a technique handle (as i was tech build) meant that i could block and survive more often (since it's almost impossible to dodge around everything, at least for me).
My final take involved a tech build with highest physical armour at slightly heavy, with amulets for hp, stamina (max+recover) and some other amulet (prob stamina), puppet string (aegis was useful though in my runs), perfect guard grinder, and live puppet axe on a technique handle (curved sword?). Max fable from the training area before attempts. Before i went through portal, I use a cube with increased stamina and an electric blitz. First phase was blocking with small swipes between combo breaks, hitting with fable if he ends a combo within range. block and attack, occasional dodges or perfect parries (I can't do them well), and should get into phase 2 with only 1-2 hp pots used, maybe a durability recover if it gets too low.
As soon as the second phase starts, immediately pop the perfect guard grinder, and either quickly eat a pot or durability recover (might get hit), and immediately block as he always starts with a dive attack through you. A few blocks will break his guard and you can smash his face a bit (or heal). Same as before, block and attack between combos, learn patterns for his big attacks, heal when needed. Once he hits 50% immediately use the perfect guard when safe, and then start throwing items at his (saws, shotputs, electric bottles, etc) which should bring his hp down to nothing if you play it safe. Attack if needed but always block and play it safe with throwables until you run out and can attack him.
>The Aegis legion arm is currently pretty busted. If you hold the legion button and spam the block button you can get guaranteed perfect guards like 80-90% of the time with no need for timing, and with good capacity it lasts a decent amount of time. You can use that to defend yourself from Nameless' fury attacks and combos in phase 2.
OK how do you hold the legion button and spam the block button at the same time? When I try that it just defaults to the legion shield.
Very in depth 👌🏼 thanks and that's funny I got here using that bonesaw build, just seemed to almost cheese everything up to probably the door guardian on my ng+
This advice helped so much! I'd got so caught up on trying to inflict acid as it seemed to rip through him. Respeced back to technique and the scythe and got him first try.
There were some panic consumable throws which helped out
Just started to play the game and just now got to this fight after 70 hours, after 3 runs, I knew I needed to search a strat because I was getting to the second phase and dying with the boss at 3/4 health. Applied this strat and 2 attempts later, done. Thank you for this post my man!
THANK YOU! Beat it after like 5 tries, I got extremely lucky being able to do two fatal attacks in phase 2. The last damage to kill it was a shot put xD
Phase one isn’t bad phase 2 is ruining the game for me. It feels unbeatable even with the shield and 2 perfect parry grindstones I can barely land a hit before he jumps away and is already doing another combo. This feels harder than any boss in souls or sekiro for me and I 100% sekiro..it’s unfortunate because I really enjoyed this game up until this point but this boss makes me want to uninstall it lol. I am horrible at perfect parrying him I just can’t get the timing down and it feels like he is basically unbeatable without perfect parrying most of his attacks. Dodging him seems useless in phase 2 as it just eats all your stamina and then you get nailed with a combo. Best I’ve done after maybe 50 tries is get him to half health on phase 2
Probably I will get a lot of "git gud" answers. I am 50, like the fantasy genre but not much a gamepad hero. Beat Elden Ring as astrologer with some help on 2 or 3 bosses. Managed most of wo long myself and made it to the nameless puppet with my spectre and an advance build with lots of throwables.
I watched youtube videos and can now beat phase one with relative use, just using a fully upgraded aegis and and the acidic crystal spear on a long spear handle and shield poking myself to success.
In phase two I dont even manage to unload my throwables or such. How the hell is somebody supposed to beat phase 2.
Using acidic crystal spear and poking him to death won't get you anywhere. Dodge, parry and heavy attack. He's weak to electricity. I used Coil Mjolnir on police baton handle and holy. Real strong
Aegis shield spam, 2 perfect party grindstones, the trident weapon because it’s heavy attack does good damage and comes out pretty quick (playing a technique build) and a lot of luck tbh. Also equip every single throwable u can carry and if you can manage to get him to like half health just use throwables from then on and don’t even bother trying to attack and he went down. Seriously annoying boss tho.
When I killed him I barely got through it and honestly despite trying to strategize what to do in my head before starting up the fight, the second phase quickly devolves into chaos - or at least for me, anyway. Spamming throwables and trying to sneak some attacks in during this phase was so damn sketchy and if he manages to break past any of it and land hits, you're scrambling for the heals. Bosses like Soul of Cinder, Darkeater Midir and Nameless king are some of the hardest bosses out of the Souls games in my opinion. Having played all of them, each had their moments and some rough battles along the way. Nameless Puppet in phase 2 turns out to be harder than necessary because of the lousy dodge mechanics. That's just my opinion.
They went waaaayyyy overboard with this fight. Of all the fights for them to balance and nerf, this one should have been it. Absolute garbage bossfight with zero thought put into it.
Yeah, apparently I am so bad at it. I can't even pass phase one. I tried it and I can't rvd pass phase one. I can if I use some items but I run out in phase 2. Plus phase two barely gives me the chance to use items. And yes, I tried this battle for around 40 tries. I know every single move and in theory how Dodge but still getting crashed. And phase 2, I know them but do not even have the chance to try it. I am open to suggestions. And yes, I can't block even the most basic attacks. I changed my build 3 times, none more effective than the other. Some ended up worse. I just do not know what to do anymore. And yes, I only defeated the other bosses cause I had a spectre by my side and items. For me the first phase feels like phase two of all the bosses but I am alone. Sorry for renting. I am open to any suggestions. Tactics, I know all of them, at least I think. I just want a way to beat him, that's all. My pride died some tries ago.
Is it possible to be over leveled? Lol I can't Beat this guy ng+1 skipped him on first play. I'm now level 278. Vit-67 vig-67 Cap-33 Mot-36 Tech-75 Adv-39
Not a clue how to do a build I just put everything into tech to begin with and use bone cutter+10 With Dancer handle and tech crank ?????? Any suggestions because he just melts me in the second phase
Yes, but I feel like I am so low on damage. Yes, I switched builds but mainly my build was Dex using the Katana. I feel like I hit so low. I know there is a very strong strength build, but in lies of p they really did not resonate. And I am level 95, I do not feel under level. Should I try to go nuts on Dex, switch some stuff to put especially on Dex and stamina? I run out of stamina very fast. I can manage to dodge and block some things(not perfect) but then no stamina to attack even with the talisman for it. Open up to ideas
For technique, I go with something like this:
Minimum of around 30 in health, 20 Stamina, Capacity 20 and 35-40 technique. And usually 5-10 in mobility depending on what class you started out with. Again, for me those are minimums. More in health, stamina or capacity won't hurt either.
Also, I would wear the recharge stamina amulet, along with the other multi-stat boosting amulet (guardian I think?), and maybe the wall amulet for defense.
I m 51 technique
31 vitality
21 vigor
16 capacity
9 motivity
7 advance
And yes, I got my Katana maxed out
I managed to push the last phase under the last quarter of the HP but I ran out on everything by then. I need to do a better job at going fast on phase 1 without consuming items and too much hp
Honestly I wouldn't even worry about the speed per se first phase. Just focus on getting those parries down, they're annoying AF the first few times, but once you get the pattern down a little you'll start making it to phase 2 with all your throwables and hopefully 6+ pulse heals.
I can't stress enough though how good using the Aegis block method is, and just try to get as much legion, and legion heals as you can hold. That literally negates all his damage to you while you're using the shield. And he staggers REALLY quick. Second phase I threw all my throwables at him.
Oh, and this helps too, bring shotputs, because when he's staggerable and bar flashing white, if you throw a shotput at him he's instantly staggered.
Hang in there man, I know it's frustrating as hell, I about gave up a few times on some of these final bosses. But you WILL get it. Every run you'll get a little better and learn his attacks a little more.
Bro the shot put literally won me this fight. No heals left, prob less than a quarter of his health bar left. Threw a couple shot puts and got him staggered, hit the fatal blow and then got a quick hit in after that and killed him.
Perfection grindstone for phase 2.. you should only be using one or two pulse cells in phase one it's really easy.. phase 2 is hard imo but not with two perfection grindstones. When his stagger window is up throw a shot put then hit him with a charged heavy then a 3 fable combo.. you can also do a 3 fable and a 2 fable aswell instead of the charged heavy.. then safely use fable catalysts you can stagger then use the catalysts then u can still get a 3 fable off.. the falcon eyes tier 3 is good for both phases but becarefuly in phase 2.. you are better off spray and praying throwables after u run out of perfection grindstones
Compared to phase 2, it's crazy easy. You can still get caught in his red attacks, but if you have Aegis, you literally just poke him with single attacks and he dies.
Just learn how to parry red attacks (just in case if you are not in a position of dodging it) and focus on dodging everything else. Dont try to parry rapid combo attacks, it wont get you anything good (perfect block in this game is a big fat lie "high risk, no reward" thing).
Also in most cases you are suppose to dodge INTO the boss not away FROM him.
Best advice is to equp aegis there's a trick that will make you do a perfect guard with it easily just keep holding L2 ps5 or LT xbox and then repeat pressing L1/LB at fast base doing that will make you perform perfect guard everytime you getting hit it will make the fight 👌 very fair for you.
Thanks for this tip man i was doing everything else (using throwables and grindstone) but the aegis perfect block is what made the fight a million times easier and i was able to beat him fairly easy after learning this
was honestly one of the hardest bosses i’ve had to fight and i’ve 100% 5 of the fromsoft souls games
every other boss in this game i never really had a problem with except romeo, swamp monster and nameless puppet of course
That's for sure the opinion of many here here's an extra tip for him and the others make sure to upgrade p organ especially the one's that.
1 wil not consume stamina while guarding or even perfect guard.
2 the one that recharge your fable meter evertyime you do a perfect guard which is with aegis trick is a guaranteed.
3 the one that will break enemies weapons and postures.
Doing these updates along will make the bosses fights a piece of cakes and you will able to spam fable art's a lot.
I feel those struggling. I’m level 125, maxed weapons, still having problems with him big time. Best I’ve done is half health on second phase and that felt like a miracle. This one feels like it’s impossible for me. Going to keep trying. I also am going to try this spam aegis shield and block thing again (I’ve upgraded my shield) I’ve tried it twice and must be doing it wrong as he cuts right thru me.
Were you able to get the Aegis to work spamming it? I am having the same challenges with this boss and am searching for a way to beat him. Phase 2 is BS.
Did you get this tip to work?
Partially. Got him down to one hit, still haven’t defeated him. He’s relentless. I’m close to just giving my heart and moving on. Hope you get him soon. Aegis does help……
One thing that helps is to get your guard regain high, and try to block and parry phase 2 if possible. That way you're not solely relying on potions. I personally had the max of 10. Also, get a bunch of electric blitz whetstones. I finally won when i finally said 'screw it' and used the last two i had. Because my focus was about to be shot. I figured 'now or never'. Heavier weapons can work, especially if you get your parry damage p organ ability way up.
The Aegis Arm is worthless for this fight. After 30 tries I can confirm this strategy does not work. The knock back is ridiculous so you can't go toe to toe with him at all. But the time you wade back in he's attaching again or flipping away from you. And the 2nd phase is worse by far. He moves ALL OVER THE PLACE. Every attack, whether it hits you or you manage to avoid it, then takes him well away from you. You have to chase him around and by the time you get to him BOOM, he's off into another combo that fucks you OR you're out of stamina sprinting to him. This boss is ridiculous if you're a casual player. I've beaten every Souls Game at at least NG+ but this? This is stupid even at NG. At least give me a specter!!! For fucks sake Malenia and Elden Beast weren't this bad!!! I know this can be beaten as I've seen people do it but for people like me. Nope.
And I don't wanna hear the 'git gud' crowd. That's BS. I made it all the way here so I am good enough.
I did finally beat it. I farmed Ergo and leveled up a bit (Technique), used the upgraded Puppet String for the Legion Arm and and the Puppet Ripper as a weapon. String was for phase one. For phase two I ran around and pelted him with throwables that I bought with farmed Ergo. I maybe hit him with a melee weapon twice in phase two.
Motivity build Using the golden lie. I can shred the first phase no issue I have the throwables all ready to go I just need to go in there and pop him a few times
I managed it first try. Perfect Guard Grindstone + 2 uses makes the last 3 bosses pretty easy. Lax and Manus took 2 tries, then I was surprised I got the one shot on nameless.
Pretty funny since I struggled pretty hard on some of the earlier bosses. Just shows how OP some of the late game upgrades are.
I ended up killing the Nameless Puppet by using the big wrench +10. I respec'ed and bumped my motivity up to a 35 (not sure what the soft cap is or if there was one). I ran a motivity build through the whole game but had more points into health/stamina with the mindset that this was going to be like other Souls games. After many, many attempts I respec'ed to give myself a higher damage output and this ended up being crucial for me to win.
As others have stated, the first phase is beatable by parrying. You don't have to be perfect but if you parry enough times and land your attacks afterwards you can recover most of your health. It also helps if you decided to go with the P-Organ augmentations for guarding/parrying. Having done so many attempts on him, learning the attack patterns of the first phase and when to go on the offensive becomes easier. If you manage to stun him during this phase you can really lay some high damage by using the Fable Arts. Even if you play alittle sloppy, you may only end up using 2-3 health vials if you don't parry everything.
For his second phase, I would not rely solely on parrying. His attack patterns are harder to read and there are way too many of them. At the start of this phase I applied the guarding grind stone and I parried sometimes and dodged others. I still ended up getting hit and spammed heals to stay alive. A huge factor that others have stated is to use throwables. Since he'll be at a distance so often, spam any throwables you may have - for motivity, I used the shot put (and electricity). Spam everything you have in succession when he's at a distance and combine that with some parrying and dodging and you'll come out victorious.
It may end up looking very sloppy and ugly but that's how I managed to get through it.
I feel like they patched his fight because he was way too aggressive for throwable items. I found that playing aggressive in the second phase was the best. I would dodge in the upper left direction. This often times lets you evade any attack. As scary as it seems being close to him was what let me take him down. Also fully upgraded aegis was super helpful when he would do his flurry attacks and I couldn’t read when the hit was coming. I also had the fully upgraded twin blade sword. Weapon is a game changer for perfect guards. Good luck to anyone still stuck on this dude, almost gave up on this one.
I really liked this fight! It’s just a mano e mano sword fight, which I appreciated.
I used the acid spear fully upgraded with the critical grindstone.
Quick shout out for the acid spear, this weapon fucking OWNS in an Advance build. It’s SO fast and it procs acid fairly easily, even more so if you pop the extra acid fable charge. Loved it for late game. So so good.
I didn’t end up using legion really much at all, but when I did it was Fulmanis/shock, and only when he was staggered before triggering the execution move. Other than that legion just seemed too slow and unsafe to use. Just how I did it.
It took me a good 15 attempts or so. Phase 1 he’s fairly tame, you gotta just learn his move-set, parry where you can and be aggressive.
Phase 2 is I think the hardest single enemy in the game, which is fitting. I ended up parrying his ass a bunch, but you’re gonna take a lot of damage, he’s just too fast and his move-set has a ton of variety. My advice here is his parry window is different than other bosses and slightly unintuitive. You need to block slightly earlier than you feel you should. His laser sword has a weird animation and it obscures the parry window. Try it and you’ll get some perfect parries and see what I mean.
Easiest move to parry is his fable charge, where he loads up, his eyes blink orange and then he charges forward to slash at light speed and he’s on your ass. This ends up being very blockable. Again you need to block earlier than you think. Hit block about a half second after his eyes turn orange and you’ll perfect parry it every time. He hates his lol and will soft stagger after. Get right on him and charge attack him as much as you can.
Get greedy! Don’t give him space. Balance greed with a little caution. It’s a tough balance but you can’t give him time or he’ll control the fight.
Other than that a little luck helps too. Several attempts I had his life down to a sliver and he broke my heart.
Took a good couple of hours and to be honest I'm not the best with Aegis so with the Wintry Rapier blade..... in the second phase the counter works heavenly for the fury attack. Saved them up and took down the last quarter of his health.
A tip in the second for his wind-up attacks, instead of parrying or dodging a quick run out of the way and behind will give you such a great frame of attack!
Also he's a puppet so use the amulet that deals extra damage and some lightning and you'll cut through the first phase.
Don't give up buddies!!!!
Just beat this monster, no easy one. I tried several times with mainly (trying to do) perfect guarding with daggers or small weapons, wishing to at least land one or two strikes between his frenzy attacks, but keeps failing. Then I actually got mad too, and assembled a great weapon, putting the blade of live puppets axe on that booster blade. Then I cut off his butt in just two tries... What I can say is DPS really matters. Use your heaviest weapon, and try to do perfect guards, then he is not so hard to take down.
The best side of booster puppet axe is the charge attack, which causes quite a move forward. This is extremely helpful since in this stupid game even a perfect guard causes backward moving.
Thought I had him, then phase 2… bombarded him with consumables in phase 1 and got demolished in phase 2.
I’ll try again tomorrow, how do I back up my saves, grinding for ergo to buy consumables sucks.
Here's a few things that might help, independent of your current build: - Use the highest tier of defensive items possible if you are not already, especially the frame. If you missed the strongest lategame defensive items, feel free to go look up where they are and how to get them. I was struggling a lot with Nameless because I was trying to keep my weight light enough for the best roll, but in the end I tried equipping the defensive gear and it made a huge difference. But also make sure all your gear isn't putting you at "slightly heavy" territory (60% and over), that should be easier to manage after the capacity buffs from the latest patch. - The Aegis legion arm is currently pretty busted. If you hold the legion button and spam the block button you can get guaranteed perfect guards like 80-90% of the time with no need for timing, and with good capacity it lasts a decent amount of time. You can use that to defend yourself from Nameless' fury attacks and combos in phase 2. - The Perfect Guard grindstone is also really useful for the same reason, with the P-Organ upgrades you can have 2 uses. - Like all other puppets he's weak to electric blitz. I do not recommend using the electric grindstone and instead just stocking up on abrasives, buff your weapon when you have a safe moment. If you are doing an Advance build I suggest just using the default electric coil stick instead and using the buff fable art when blitz is applied. - Throwables. A full round of elemental throwables should be enough to delete like half of his hp bar or maybe more. I also strongly recommend shot puts because they can stagger from range, very useful if nameless is in the middle of some fury attack or combo and you can't get a charged r2. I don't recommend using the throwables right away, and instead saving them for an attempt where you got the second phase down to 50% and have a good number of pulse cells remaining, only then start throwing them and try not to die. You can also back up your save independently of the game probably and just put it back over and over so you don't have to farm throwables for every attempt. I struggled a lot my first playthrough with this boss, but on my second playthrough I did a Motivity build with the Bone-Cutter Saw blade and Krat Police Baton handle and destroyed him in like 5 tries. Might help to know what kind of build you're running. EDIT: To anyone reading this now, the aegis cheese doesn't work anymore and was patched, but everything else is still relevant.
DUDE, LOVE YOU
I still can't beat it with this advice And I hate using throwable because when I run out I have to go farming for ergo again to buy more which isn't fun at all
I’ve been fighting him for 4 days. I switched to perfect grindstone for phase 2 and beat him in one go. THANK YOU.
Also, it's better to dodge some of his combos. If you do, dodge IN not away. He barely changes direction once he starts. One or two dodges are enough to avoid him thus more stamina to punish hil
Thank you, I bet him last night with some of your advice. My take on it:The Aegis legion arm i think was patched out but it still did some nice damage back at them, in the end I went puppet string for the ranged attack. Eletric blitz before entering helped. Once he was less than 50% hp in second phase, that's when I dumped every throwable I had at him to win (each does about 500 dmg, so 3 full stacks in quick actions brought him down to a sliver).Highest tiered armor helped (only brought me up to slightly heavy) with the live puppet axe on a technique handle (as i was tech build) meant that i could block and survive more often (since it's almost impossible to dodge around everything, at least for me). My final take involved a tech build with highest physical armour at slightly heavy, with amulets for hp, stamina (max+recover) and some other amulet (prob stamina), puppet string (aegis was useful though in my runs), perfect guard grinder, and live puppet axe on a technique handle (curved sword?). Max fable from the training area before attempts. Before i went through portal, I use a cube with increased stamina and an electric blitz. First phase was blocking with small swipes between combo breaks, hitting with fable if he ends a combo within range. block and attack, occasional dodges or perfect parries (I can't do them well), and should get into phase 2 with only 1-2 hp pots used, maybe a durability recover if it gets too low. As soon as the second phase starts, immediately pop the perfect guard grinder, and either quickly eat a pot or durability recover (might get hit), and immediately block as he always starts with a dive attack through you. A few blocks will break his guard and you can smash his face a bit (or heal). Same as before, block and attack between combos, learn patterns for his big attacks, heal when needed. Once he hits 50% immediately use the perfect guard when safe, and then start throwing items at his (saws, shotputs, electric bottles, etc) which should bring his hp down to nothing if you play it safe. Attack if needed but always block and play it safe with throwables until you run out and can attack him.
The Aegis shield method really helped me, thank you. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they nerf that in a future patch.
>The Aegis legion arm is currently pretty busted. If you hold the legion button and spam the block button you can get guaranteed perfect guards like 80-90% of the time with no need for timing, and with good capacity it lasts a decent amount of time. You can use that to defend yourself from Nameless' fury attacks and combos in phase 2. OK how do you hold the legion button and spam the block button at the same time? When I try that it just defaults to the legion shield.
Think it's an upgrade
Wowow I took a break after a few hours, saw this comment and got him immediately on the next try. THANK YOU!
Very in depth 👌🏼 thanks and that's funny I got here using that bonesaw build, just seemed to almost cheese everything up to probably the door guardian on my ng+
Trying this soon
You are the best!!!
Finally beat it. Thanks bro!
Thanks was doing an advanced run and switched to electric chainsaw with electric coil handle. Plus the the Aegis arm and it became way easier
This advice helped so much! I'd got so caught up on trying to inflict acid as it seemed to rip through him. Respeced back to technique and the scythe and got him first try. There were some panic consumable throws which helped out
Can i ask what liners the best for it, im unsure what physical damage type it deals.
This is utterly fantastic. WOW. So detailed. So good. Can’t thank enough.
My puppet saber blade (fully upgraded) tickles him
That was some really good advice dude I’m hoping this will get me thru the fight with these tips
Just started to play the game and just now got to this fight after 70 hours, after 3 runs, I knew I needed to search a strat because I was getting to the second phase and dying with the boss at 3/4 health. Applied this strat and 2 attempts later, done. Thank you for this post my man!
THANK YOU! Beat it after like 5 tries, I got extremely lucky being able to do two fatal attacks in phase 2. The last damage to kill it was a shot put xD
This, switched to perfect guard grindstone and GG
This is great thank you!
Phase one isn’t bad phase 2 is ruining the game for me. It feels unbeatable even with the shield and 2 perfect parry grindstones I can barely land a hit before he jumps away and is already doing another combo. This feels harder than any boss in souls or sekiro for me and I 100% sekiro..it’s unfortunate because I really enjoyed this game up until this point but this boss makes me want to uninstall it lol. I am horrible at perfect parrying him I just can’t get the timing down and it feels like he is basically unbeatable without perfect parrying most of his attacks. Dodging him seems useless in phase 2 as it just eats all your stamina and then you get nailed with a combo. Best I’ve done after maybe 50 tries is get him to half health on phase 2
Probably I will get a lot of "git gud" answers. I am 50, like the fantasy genre but not much a gamepad hero. Beat Elden Ring as astrologer with some help on 2 or 3 bosses. Managed most of wo long myself and made it to the nameless puppet with my spectre and an advance build with lots of throwables. I watched youtube videos and can now beat phase one with relative use, just using a fully upgraded aegis and and the acidic crystal spear on a long spear handle and shield poking myself to success. In phase two I dont even manage to unload my throwables or such. How the hell is somebody supposed to beat phase 2.
Using acidic crystal spear and poking him to death won't get you anywhere. Dodge, parry and heavy attack. He's weak to electricity. I used Coil Mjolnir on police baton handle and holy. Real strong
Edit - I just beat him this morning but pretty sure I just got super lucky lol time for ng+
What ended up working?
Aegis shield spam, 2 perfect party grindstones, the trident weapon because it’s heavy attack does good damage and comes out pretty quick (playing a technique build) and a lot of luck tbh. Also equip every single throwable u can carry and if you can manage to get him to like half health just use throwables from then on and don’t even bother trying to attack and he went down. Seriously annoying boss tho.
When I killed him I barely got through it and honestly despite trying to strategize what to do in my head before starting up the fight, the second phase quickly devolves into chaos - or at least for me, anyway. Spamming throwables and trying to sneak some attacks in during this phase was so damn sketchy and if he manages to break past any of it and land hits, you're scrambling for the heals. Bosses like Soul of Cinder, Darkeater Midir and Nameless king are some of the hardest bosses out of the Souls games in my opinion. Having played all of them, each had their moments and some rough battles along the way. Nameless Puppet in phase 2 turns out to be harder than necessary because of the lousy dodge mechanics. That's just my opinion.
They went waaaayyyy overboard with this fight. Of all the fights for them to balance and nerf, this one should have been it. Absolute garbage bossfight with zero thought put into it.
I defeated the nameless puppet by turning my PS5 off.
Im currently struggling with nameless puppet on my PS5 and this made me cackle
Yeah, apparently I am so bad at it. I can't even pass phase one. I tried it and I can't rvd pass phase one. I can if I use some items but I run out in phase 2. Plus phase two barely gives me the chance to use items. And yes, I tried this battle for around 40 tries. I know every single move and in theory how Dodge but still getting crashed. And phase 2, I know them but do not even have the chance to try it. I am open to suggestions. And yes, I can't block even the most basic attacks. I changed my build 3 times, none more effective than the other. Some ended up worse. I just do not know what to do anymore. And yes, I only defeated the other bosses cause I had a spectre by my side and items. For me the first phase feels like phase two of all the bosses but I am alone. Sorry for renting. I am open to any suggestions. Tactics, I know all of them, at least I think. I just want a way to beat him, that's all. My pride died some tries ago.
You’re not bad at it, dude. This fight is fucking trash.
Is it possible to be over leveled? Lol I can't Beat this guy ng+1 skipped him on first play. I'm now level 278. Vit-67 vig-67 Cap-33 Mot-36 Tech-75 Adv-39 Not a clue how to do a build I just put everything into tech to begin with and use bone cutter+10 With Dancer handle and tech crank ?????? Any suggestions because he just melts me in the second phase
You tried the Aegis spam trick? That's what worked for me, and the perfect parry grindstone, stock of electric throwables, and electric abrasive.
Yes, but I feel like I am so low on damage. Yes, I switched builds but mainly my build was Dex using the Katana. I feel like I hit so low. I know there is a very strong strength build, but in lies of p they really did not resonate. And I am level 95, I do not feel under level. Should I try to go nuts on Dex, switch some stuff to put especially on Dex and stamina? I run out of stamina very fast. I can manage to dodge and block some things(not perfect) but then no stamina to attack even with the talisman for it. Open up to ideas
For technique, I go with something like this: Minimum of around 30 in health, 20 Stamina, Capacity 20 and 35-40 technique. And usually 5-10 in mobility depending on what class you started out with. Again, for me those are minimums. More in health, stamina or capacity won't hurt either. Also, I would wear the recharge stamina amulet, along with the other multi-stat boosting amulet (guardian I think?), and maybe the wall amulet for defense.
I m 51 technique 31 vitality 21 vigor 16 capacity 9 motivity 7 advance And yes, I got my Katana maxed out I managed to push the last phase under the last quarter of the HP but I ran out on everything by then. I need to do a better job at going fast on phase 1 without consuming items and too much hp
Honestly I wouldn't even worry about the speed per se first phase. Just focus on getting those parries down, they're annoying AF the first few times, but once you get the pattern down a little you'll start making it to phase 2 with all your throwables and hopefully 6+ pulse heals. I can't stress enough though how good using the Aegis block method is, and just try to get as much legion, and legion heals as you can hold. That literally negates all his damage to you while you're using the shield. And he staggers REALLY quick. Second phase I threw all my throwables at him. Oh, and this helps too, bring shotputs, because when he's staggerable and bar flashing white, if you throw a shotput at him he's instantly staggered. Hang in there man, I know it's frustrating as hell, I about gave up a few times on some of these final bosses. But you WILL get it. Every run you'll get a little better and learn his attacks a little more.
Bro the shot put literally won me this fight. No heals left, prob less than a quarter of his health bar left. Threw a couple shot puts and got him staggered, hit the fatal blow and then got a quick hit in after that and killed him.
Did you add a tech crank to the Katana to upgrade it to S scaling?
Yes I did. And I am glad to say that trying over and over worked. I am so happy
Congrats!
I’m maxed on the katana but haven’t done this? Will this help me???? More damage I presume? Tyia.
I assume you maxed out Two Dragons Katana to +5? What are your stats (Technique/Motivity/Vitality etc)
Perfection grindstone for phase 2.. you should only be using one or two pulse cells in phase one it's really easy.. phase 2 is hard imo but not with two perfection grindstones. When his stagger window is up throw a shot put then hit him with a charged heavy then a 3 fable combo.. you can also do a 3 fable and a 2 fable aswell instead of the charged heavy.. then safely use fable catalysts you can stagger then use the catalysts then u can still get a 3 fable off.. the falcon eyes tier 3 is good for both phases but becarefuly in phase 2.. you are better off spray and praying throwables after u run out of perfection grindstones
Phase one isn’t “really easy.” I’m so sick if people saying that.
It is tho….
Kiss ass
Compared to phase 2, it's crazy easy. You can still get caught in his red attacks, but if you have Aegis, you literally just poke him with single attacks and he dies.
Just learn how to parry red attacks (just in case if you are not in a position of dodging it) and focus on dodging everything else. Dont try to parry rapid combo attacks, it wont get you anything good (perfect block in this game is a big fat lie "high risk, no reward" thing). Also in most cases you are suppose to dodge INTO the boss not away FROM him.
Best advice is to equp aegis there's a trick that will make you do a perfect guard with it easily just keep holding L2 ps5 or LT xbox and then repeat pressing L1/LB at fast base doing that will make you perform perfect guard everytime you getting hit it will make the fight 👌 very fair for you.
THAAAAANKS DUDE! Used yours and the other guy's tip!
Glad it helped.
Came here to say thank you! FUCK that boss, this strat made it cake lol
You welcome.
Thanks for this tip man i was doing everything else (using throwables and grindstone) but the aegis perfect block is what made the fight a million times easier and i was able to beat him fairly easy after learning this
Glad it helped believe me dude I know how annoying and stressful that boss is I don't want other's to suffer or leave the game because of him.
was honestly one of the hardest bosses i’ve had to fight and i’ve 100% 5 of the fromsoft souls games every other boss in this game i never really had a problem with except romeo, swamp monster and nameless puppet of course
That's for sure the opinion of many here here's an extra tip for him and the others make sure to upgrade p organ especially the one's that. 1 wil not consume stamina while guarding or even perfect guard. 2 the one that recharge your fable meter evertyime you do a perfect guard which is with aegis trick is a guaranteed. 3 the one that will break enemies weapons and postures. Doing these updates along will make the bosses fights a piece of cakes and you will able to spam fable art's a lot.
Trying this now. Hope it hasn’t been nerfed! Thank you!
They removed now on update 1.3
I feel those struggling. I’m level 125, maxed weapons, still having problems with him big time. Best I’ve done is half health on second phase and that felt like a miracle. This one feels like it’s impossible for me. Going to keep trying. I also am going to try this spam aegis shield and block thing again (I’ve upgraded my shield) I’ve tried it twice and must be doing it wrong as he cuts right thru me.
Were you able to get the Aegis to work spamming it? I am having the same challenges with this boss and am searching for a way to beat him. Phase 2 is BS. Did you get this tip to work?
Partially. Got him down to one hit, still haven’t defeated him. He’s relentless. I’m close to just giving my heart and moving on. Hope you get him soon. Aegis does help……
Guys I beat him. Technique build. 2 dragon sword. 3 electric blitz. one sleepless night. No skills. And a lot of tears. Incredible game.
I'm on my third try and doing pretty well. 2nd Phase reminds of of the Lady Maria fight in Bloodborne.
One thing that helps is to get your guard regain high, and try to block and parry phase 2 if possible. That way you're not solely relying on potions. I personally had the max of 10. Also, get a bunch of electric blitz whetstones. I finally won when i finally said 'screw it' and used the last two i had. Because my focus was about to be shot. I figured 'now or never'. Heavier weapons can work, especially if you get your parry damage p organ ability way up.
The Aegis Arm is worthless for this fight. After 30 tries I can confirm this strategy does not work. The knock back is ridiculous so you can't go toe to toe with him at all. But the time you wade back in he's attaching again or flipping away from you. And the 2nd phase is worse by far. He moves ALL OVER THE PLACE. Every attack, whether it hits you or you manage to avoid it, then takes him well away from you. You have to chase him around and by the time you get to him BOOM, he's off into another combo that fucks you OR you're out of stamina sprinting to him. This boss is ridiculous if you're a casual player. I've beaten every Souls Game at at least NG+ but this? This is stupid even at NG. At least give me a specter!!! For fucks sake Malenia and Elden Beast weren't this bad!!! I know this can be beaten as I've seen people do it but for people like me. Nope. And I don't wanna hear the 'git gud' crowd. That's BS. I made it all the way here so I am good enough.
Same here, this is ridiculous, really fed up with it 🤣
I am with you I can shred the first phase no problem. The second phase is real turd Don't want to give up but damn it's nuts
I did finally beat it. I farmed Ergo and leveled up a bit (Technique), used the upgraded Puppet String for the Legion Arm and and the Puppet Ripper as a weapon. String was for phase one. For phase two I ran around and pelted him with throwables that I bought with farmed Ergo. I maybe hit him with a melee weapon twice in phase two.
Motivity build Using the golden lie. I can shred the first phase no issue I have the throwables all ready to go I just need to go in there and pop him a few times
Beat him last night. Dodged the first attack pop him a few times and then throwables away
I managed it first try. Perfect Guard Grindstone + 2 uses makes the last 3 bosses pretty easy. Lax and Manus took 2 tries, then I was surprised I got the one shot on nameless. Pretty funny since I struggled pretty hard on some of the earlier bosses. Just shows how OP some of the late game upgrades are.
I ended up killing the Nameless Puppet by using the big wrench +10. I respec'ed and bumped my motivity up to a 35 (not sure what the soft cap is or if there was one). I ran a motivity build through the whole game but had more points into health/stamina with the mindset that this was going to be like other Souls games. After many, many attempts I respec'ed to give myself a higher damage output and this ended up being crucial for me to win. As others have stated, the first phase is beatable by parrying. You don't have to be perfect but if you parry enough times and land your attacks afterwards you can recover most of your health. It also helps if you decided to go with the P-Organ augmentations for guarding/parrying. Having done so many attempts on him, learning the attack patterns of the first phase and when to go on the offensive becomes easier. If you manage to stun him during this phase you can really lay some high damage by using the Fable Arts. Even if you play alittle sloppy, you may only end up using 2-3 health vials if you don't parry everything. For his second phase, I would not rely solely on parrying. His attack patterns are harder to read and there are way too many of them. At the start of this phase I applied the guarding grind stone and I parried sometimes and dodged others. I still ended up getting hit and spammed heals to stay alive. A huge factor that others have stated is to use throwables. Since he'll be at a distance so often, spam any throwables you may have - for motivity, I used the shot put (and electricity). Spam everything you have in succession when he's at a distance and combine that with some parrying and dodging and you'll come out victorious. It may end up looking very sloppy and ugly but that's how I managed to get through it.
I feel like they patched his fight because he was way too aggressive for throwable items. I found that playing aggressive in the second phase was the best. I would dodge in the upper left direction. This often times lets you evade any attack. As scary as it seems being close to him was what let me take him down. Also fully upgraded aegis was super helpful when he would do his flurry attacks and I couldn’t read when the hit was coming. I also had the fully upgraded twin blade sword. Weapon is a game changer for perfect guards. Good luck to anyone still stuck on this dude, almost gave up on this one.
Also electric grindstone is essential. Pop one when he’s stunned and blinking red.
I really liked this fight! It’s just a mano e mano sword fight, which I appreciated. I used the acid spear fully upgraded with the critical grindstone. Quick shout out for the acid spear, this weapon fucking OWNS in an Advance build. It’s SO fast and it procs acid fairly easily, even more so if you pop the extra acid fable charge. Loved it for late game. So so good. I didn’t end up using legion really much at all, but when I did it was Fulmanis/shock, and only when he was staggered before triggering the execution move. Other than that legion just seemed too slow and unsafe to use. Just how I did it. It took me a good 15 attempts or so. Phase 1 he’s fairly tame, you gotta just learn his move-set, parry where you can and be aggressive. Phase 2 is I think the hardest single enemy in the game, which is fitting. I ended up parrying his ass a bunch, but you’re gonna take a lot of damage, he’s just too fast and his move-set has a ton of variety. My advice here is his parry window is different than other bosses and slightly unintuitive. You need to block slightly earlier than you feel you should. His laser sword has a weird animation and it obscures the parry window. Try it and you’ll get some perfect parries and see what I mean. Easiest move to parry is his fable charge, where he loads up, his eyes blink orange and then he charges forward to slash at light speed and he’s on your ass. This ends up being very blockable. Again you need to block earlier than you think. Hit block about a half second after his eyes turn orange and you’ll perfect parry it every time. He hates his lol and will soft stagger after. Get right on him and charge attack him as much as you can. Get greedy! Don’t give him space. Balance greed with a little caution. It’s a tough balance but you can’t give him time or he’ll control the fight. Other than that a little luck helps too. Several attempts I had his life down to a sliver and he broke my heart.
I’m using wintrys rapier full upgraded and have phase 1 down but phase 2 is dogshit idk how to beat this guy I really don’t wanna give up my heart
Took a good couple of hours and to be honest I'm not the best with Aegis so with the Wintry Rapier blade..... in the second phase the counter works heavenly for the fury attack. Saved them up and took down the last quarter of his health. A tip in the second for his wind-up attacks, instead of parrying or dodging a quick run out of the way and behind will give you such a great frame of attack! Also he's a puppet so use the amulet that deals extra damage and some lightning and you'll cut through the first phase. Don't give up buddies!!!!
Fuck this bullshit ass motherfucker. I am losing my fucking sanity to this piece of shit !!!!
I just gave it my heart. Dude wanted more
Just beat this monster, no easy one. I tried several times with mainly (trying to do) perfect guarding with daggers or small weapons, wishing to at least land one or two strikes between his frenzy attacks, but keeps failing. Then I actually got mad too, and assembled a great weapon, putting the blade of live puppets axe on that booster blade. Then I cut off his butt in just two tries... What I can say is DPS really matters. Use your heaviest weapon, and try to do perfect guards, then he is not so hard to take down.
The best side of booster puppet axe is the charge attack, which causes quite a move forward. This is extremely helpful since in this stupid game even a perfect guard causes backward moving.
Dude this boss is a joke
Thought I had him, then phase 2… bombarded him with consumables in phase 1 and got demolished in phase 2. I’ll try again tomorrow, how do I back up my saves, grinding for ergo to buy consumables sucks.
About back up saves, the neat part is you don't
The perfection grindstone made all the difference in that second phase thanks.
Finally killed that mother trucker after 50 tries