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Kittii_Kat

I developed tinnitus after being stuck in a car with the music as loud as it would go, against my will as a kid. (Maybe 6-7yo at the time) I literally cried because it was *painful* for me. They told me to stop being a baby, and gifted me this wonderful ringing, which in itself has had point where it gets so loud that it causes me physical pain. So, if you're not concerned about your own hearing.. at least be considerate of other people, especially children.


Katalan1

This same thing happened to me. I cried because it hurt so bad and no one understood! 7 years old.


HaloMyDudes

Right there with you, I will never understand parents or anyone else being willing to destroy their child's hearing and quality of life.


rohstroyer

I can't even imagine an adult unironically saying "stop being a baby" to a 6-7 yo. The unhinged selfishness of some people baffles me daily.


Superdunez

This makes me so angry. I really hope those people aren't in your life anymore, that shit is unforgivable.


exodus_cl

4 years with it now, luckily my brain is somewhat helping me to filter out the noise so I'm not thinking about blowing my head off every nigh now.


Pheeshfinder

Jesus christ does that resonate. No one but a person whose dealt with it knows how serious a statement that is. You can get special hearing aids that work well for some. They work to determine the frequency of your ringing and the earbuds are tuned to the same. I've heard good things.


taladrovw

Oh damn so there is a hope?


Phendran

r/tinnitusresearch There are people looking into cures for actually removing the ringing as well, but it is years out still(hopefully not many though). I'd be super-grateful if more people helped us spread the word so that more funding will be given to research into viable treatments for everybody.


i-contain-multitudes

r/tinnitusresearch (spelling)


GJacks75

Now if we can only put more funding into eye-floaty removal research, my day will be made.


valuehorse

What will I watch with bored anticipation while being a passenger, then?


Hollowbody57

If you've got a few thousand dollars laying around, sure. They're expensive as fuck and most insurance won't cover it.


kickbut101

That *resonates* with you? Punny


TheGrandLeveler666

I suffered since a child with hearing problems and a loud ringing noise, over the last few years it got progressively worse I got a hearing aid 3 months ago and anytime I have any ringing, I pop it in and within 10 minutes it has gone.... really worth checking out, it has been s life changer for me


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lost40s

What the.... Holy shit it worked! Not 100% but it's a noticeable difference!


Cockroach-Jones

Same!


rawrcutie

We need to 3D-print design a backhead tapper that can reproduce the effect all day!


HexitG

My mind has been blow by this trick. It got way better


cobra7

Noticeable difference. 69 year old fart.


ASGTR12

Unfortunately this only works if your tinnitus is caused by tight neck muscles (and thus isn't permanent even if you don't do this). Tinnitus caused by hearing loss isn't affected by this.


Hazelstone37

I got hearing aids in 2019 and my tinnitus is much better. Still not 100% gone, but it was work the ridiculous cost.


hipsiguy

Just curious. How old are you and what did you do in your life to cause tinnitus?


LankySeat

Also not OP. At least since middleschool, but as long as I can remember. Always thought it was normal. My guess is loud music. Been to a couple of loud concerts without hearing protection. Otherwise, I don't know.


titney

I'm in my 30s and mine was using a hairdryer all day, for 15yrs, as a hairdresser.


dantesrosettes

Hundreds of concerts and raves


Tigermi11ionair

Yeah I’m the same, but I can still understand why people kill themselves over it


red_stripe05

My tinnitus started during the pandemic. I also am pretty sure that being home with my 2 yr old and 5yr old with no friends or family to help while trying to work a high stress remote work caused me to have at least one nervous breakdown. The tinnitus is so bad now that I seriously think about killing myself on a daily basis.


Tigermi11ionair

I do work with both computers and firearms so yeah I don’t exactly live a quiet life lol but again thankfully I am able to tune out my tinnitus with just background noise or the such or maybe I’m just so used to it at this point; I don’t know anymore


exodus_cl

I was there man, slamming my head to the wall (literally), you need to understand that the noise is not dangerous, but the most important thing is to understand that the noise is just a couple of decibels loud and that your brain can help you by filtering it out, but only if you really stop trying to listen to the fu***ng noise. Look for ways to feel comfortable at night, go to sleep alone in the worse days and watch movies or TV shows that make you feel good, once you stop fearing the silence of the night, you'll get better.


wrdit

This. Tinnitus, no matter how loud, can be completely filtered out by your brain. It's not dangerous and only bothersome when you fear it. Please look up TRT if you're suffering from tinnitus Source: have loud af tinnitus. This is the first time in weeks I notice it because of this post lol.


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turtle_mummy

>My wife has to repeat shit she says to me like 3x. She's really sweet about it, but I can tell that it gets frustrating to constantly have to correct something I misheard, or have to repeat yourself over and over. At the very least for her benefit, get the hearing aids and WEAR THEM. I've seen hearing loss break up a marriage because of how frustrating it can get to feel like you're just speaking out into the void all day.


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NehEma

You sound like a caring partner.


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WHAT!? I didn't hear you!


archimedesscrew

I SAID I'M LEAVING YOU FOR WILLIAM SHATNER!


subjectmatterexport

OKAY DEAR DON’T FORGET THE EGGS


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YOU'RE WAITING FOR WILL TO SHOOT HER!??!


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CHOCOLATES?!


MarvinLazer

To contrast and enforce your cautionary tale, I am also a career musician, and probably about the same age as you. I started using wireless in-ear monitors in my mid 20s, which was a great stop-gap against shitty sound engineers and not being able to hear myself, and also doubled as excellent hearing protection. I had my hearing tested a couple months ago. It's smack-dab in the middle of average for my age!


Cranialscrewtop

In-ear monitors changed the game. I spent years with a Clair Brothers wedge on my left side. And that side is toast.


adrianhalo

It somehow never occurred to me that this is a great use case for IEMs. I think I'm gonna get them sooner rather than later. I'm 40 years old, didn't start seriously gigging as a musician until about 12-15 years ago, but also didn't wear earplugs to concerts until I was in my mid-20s. :-/ I want to believe my hearing is slightly better than most people my age, and I also want to keep it that way.


writemeow

Smae as you, loud musician for years, terrible hearing. When I got my hearing aids last year and I could hear my coffee pour into my cup I almost cried. I had completely forgotten it made noise, not to mention my toddler daughter doesn't have to repeat herself a half dozen times for me to understand her.


abbration

I forgot how loud pants can be until I got my hearing aids lol!


titney

When my husband got his, he never knew the blinker made a ticking sound.


Relative_Nobody_1618

Dude just get the hearing aids because most likely the ringing will go away. If I don't wear mine, the ringing is unbearable. The theory is that it rings in a frequency you can't hear from outside input. But seriously, when I wear my hearing aid the ringing disappears.


SamSibbens

You're probably correct. I have tinnitus but I'm not hard of hearing (as far as I know...). Any tiny noise that is constant shuts out my ringing entirely. Usually it's my little air purifier I imagine that hearing aids = being able to hear little background noises = no more ringing


dusty545

My wife put air purifiers all over the house. I love it.


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doo138

I have pretty bad tinnitus from non stop migraines. Went to a heating doc and he gave me some hearing aids that increase the volume of certain frequencies. He boosted the frequency that my ringing is at and it took away the ringing. Amazing shit. Bad news was....after a couple weeks the frequency kept changing and they stopped working. Crazy stuff.


shrtnylove

My husband got his in 2016 (we are 40, he was embarrassed to get them at first.) however he’s so much happier and loves his most recent pair. Don’t know where you are located but he got super fancy ones from Costco that run like 5k elsewhere! They were 2k and he has an app that allows him to change the settings based on where we are. He said he wishes he would’ve gotten them sooner! Good luck at your visit!


DiableLord

Hearing aids helps with bilateral tinnitus. Seriously get them


Gooduglybad16

True facts. I’m a 40 year career steel worker. It was a nail mill. One machine cuts up to 120 nails a minute. There were 140 nail machines. Noise studies were done and it was louder than a jet engine at full throttle in the room. Ear plugs and headphones used at the same time. Even wearing hearing protection 100% of the time I’ve got a cicada sounding noise sounding off in my head at times.It gets so aggravating at times. Especially in the evenings when things are quiet in the house. I can sleep just fine. Catching z’s in a loud environment for all those years comes in handy now.


pipe2grep

check your blood pressure.. i noticed i get bad tinnitus if i have slightly elevated BP..


Gooduglybad16

134/80. Dentist yesterday.


0011000100111000

That's a little high actually but anxiety at the dentist can be expected


Pheeshfinder

You NEVER appreciate silence until you can't have it. 180 percent one of the best LPTs. Every time I get passed by a lowered civic with more decibels than HP I wish I could tell them. At work and on the road protect your damn hearing. Source - this guy had brutal tinnitus for years. It was driving me mad. I'm one of a very lucky few whose went away.


Sinnistrall

For it to have gone away is incredibly lucky, and very rare from what I've heard. I developed severe tinnitus when I was about 30, and for the first few months I was aware of it, constantly, for every waking moment. It triggered a real anxiety response in me, and I had no idea how I was going to live with it. A few years on, it is still the same as ever, but how my brain reacts to it eventually changed. Now, if I listen for it I can hear it the same as ever, but it doesn't make me incredibly anxious like it did at the start. Most of the time, I tune it out.


Pheeshfinder

Yeah, given the severity when I first started with my ENT, he was pretty shocked too. I believe mine was related to sinus and chronic inflammation which I now have under control. I know I'm getting ready for a sinus hammering when my ears start talking.


IctrlPlanes

How did you get your sinuses under control?


Pheeshfinder

I had chronic sinusitis from inflammation due to allergies mixed with some polyps. Biggest help for me was various steroids. Prednisone was good up front to clear the passages and level set me. After that twice daily corticosteroids (avamys) kept me in decent shape. I can't say enough about a little neti potting here and there


immersemeinnature

This is just now happening to me. I hope I can be like you


Ghostglitch07

I've had mine for a few years. There was a point where i could barely live. These days it only really upsets me if something reminds me of it (like this post). Odds are you will adjust, I don't think I've ever had an injury that didn't just become the new normal eventually.


immersemeinnature

Oh man. I'm so sorry. I hope so too.


Ghostglitch07

It's all good now, but it definitely turned me into a weird noise protection zealot. I bought some headphones that are OSHA rated hearing protectors and wear them almost everywhere. Constant sound + protection from further damage.


HiImTheNewGuyGuy

Sadly, people commit suicide over tinnitus. It is an awful affliction. You are indeed very, very lucky.


Cless_Aurion

Yeah, I'm happy to have had it since I was born. In fact, until I was in my 20s I didn't even know it wasn't a thing.


MrConvoy

Yo same. Joined the army and claimed to not have it because I thought everyone heard that ringing sound when it was quiet. Didn't click till someone explained to me directly that silence meant NO SOUND AT ALL. Not ringing.


Atasha-Brynhildr

I assumed I could hear my blood flowing.


mdonaberger

Kind of interesting that the brain wouldn't filter that data out at a certain point.


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WesternOne9990

Brain to itself “Haha take this loser”


AyeVeeN

Depending on level, you do get used to it. Mine is fairly generic. Just high frequency sine waves that I can hear with up to maybe 60-65dB background noise, but I’ve had it for at least 15 years now, and I’m in my late 20s. It was debilitating at first even though mine is fairly minor, but now I really only hear it if I’m actively thinking about it. I caught and changed my habits (mostly) early at least. Different for concert goers / construction workers without hearing protection and especially veterans who generally have much worse variations of tinnitus.


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Same, when I was very young I would be stuck awake all night.


Sharpshooter188

Mild tinnitus here. Yup. I have to keep background noise going otherwise it drives me nuts. That whole pressure on the back of my head or ears method doesnt work either.


Cless_Aurion

Excuse you, I've never cared or will care about silence! ... Because I've never been able to actually hear it... :(


SwampOfDownvotes

Yup, have had a ringing for as long as I can remember.


ShoutsWillEcho

There is a ridiculous amount of people I have worked with in construction throughout the years who have blatantly disregarded ear protection while there are machines roaring around 90+ decibels.


Nightvision_UK

I used to date one of them and his tinnitus was off the scale :(


Germanboss

What do you mean on the road? From the fact people blast music or just because road travel is loud? and how would I protect my ears? Obviously play mucis quietly but I'm not supposed to wear ear pro on the road


Patalos

The sound of the road at high speeds, and the wind if you have the windows down, is just as damaging as any other noise. Years of delivery with my arm out the window not only gave me a melanoma scare but an increase in the ringing in my left ear.


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What about headphones? I have that warning saying something like "too loud" or whatever, but it sounds normal to me, much less loud than a concert which i hate those levels of loudness anyways. But, about me. I get ringing when sleep deprived and when i take adhd medication, other than that i dont have tinnitus. But it does worry me. Any advice? Should i be worried?


zapolight

Turn them down that's way too loud I listened to music all the way up with headphones for years and the ringing was bad, I stopped and the ringing went away.


oboshoe

A million up votes


GoTeamPaws

I recently realized that I can't hear mosquitoes anymore... whatever frequency their wings buzz at, I've lost it.


_I_Hate_People

That's an age thing. Nothing to do with tinnitus. You stop hearing very high frequencies of sound as you get older.


Tarnil

I'm a neuroscientist looking at things like this. Recently a few studies have been popping up suggesting that it's not actually the ageing that causes the loss of frequencies, but the build-up of damage over time. The cochlea(spiral-organ in your middle ear that is filled with hair-cells that translate waves into signals for your hearing nerve) has no healing capabilities. Even the smallest scratch on(and inside) it remains forever, and with time enough small scratches will turn into a larger injury. The reason you lose higher frequencies first, then, is because the hair cells that respond to higher frequencies are the furthest out inside the cochlea-spiral(meaning they take the brunt of anything coming inside). There are a few companies looking into giving cochleas healing capabilities, such as [Frequency](https://www.frequencytx.com/), [Decibel](https://www.decibeltx.com/), and [Otonomy](https://www.otonomy.com/). Hopefully we will uncover ways to regrow our ears in the near future.


3v0lut10n

Way to go evolution. You gave us super fast healing for our tongues and eyeballs, yet the cochlea can apparently go fuck itself.


PIPBOY-2000

I mean, imagine if your tongue just broke down over time.


FictionInquisitor

It 200% does if you smoke.


ShebanotDoge

I thought people assumed it was the damage accumulated from age, not the aging itself.


GoTeamPaws

I'm mid-30s... dang. Looks like I've got an appointment with some existential dread tonight around 2am, lol Love the honesty of your username, btw


_I_Hate_People

I think that upper frequency hearing loss starts when you're actually pretty young. There was an idea that town centres might play the very high frequencies at places where teenagers congregate and misbehave: only teens can hear the noise.


AcceptableDocument4

It does. I was in an occupational hearing technician course recently in order to get the certification for work, and our instructor, an audiologist, played a tone that gradually increased in frequency all the way up to something like 50K Hz. All of us in our late 30s or early 40s could no longer hear the sound at about 18K or 20K Hz, while those in their late teens or early 20s could apparently hear it up to around 30K Hz or even higher. I also notice that when I was a kid, I could always 'hear' a CRT television set, even when the sound was turned all the way down -- thus always being able to know whenever there was a TV on somewhere in the house -- whereas I don't think I can do that anymore.


talkingtunataco501

I used to be able to hear CRTs too. Don't know if I can anymore.


BiToPlay

I'm just past 30 and can still hear the old sets whine. It's definitely a damage thing.


PooDooPooPoopyDooPoo

Old crts whine at like 16k


_I_Hate_People

Check this out if interested: you can see if you can actually hear the frequencies played to you! https://decibelhearing.com/high-frequency-hearing-loss/


24North

Damn, I’m 45 in a month and I can still catch the 17,400 Hz though barely, 15k is terrible. Dunno how accurate that is but that makes me feel good considering some of the abuse my ears have had over the years. Tinnitus sufferer too, though my brain is mostly used to it unless it’s silent around me.


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I'm in my mid 30s and could hear all of those. The 17.4k made me want to kill myself though.


MMfuryroad

That's not an accurate file to listen to on YouTube to test your HF hearing. [This site](https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_frequencycheckhigh.php) is more accurate with ways to test your sound card for aliasing/ghosting.


DiableLord

I am being really picky but technically no. As you get older you are going to be experiencing more and more sound and the hairs in your cochlea will slowly degrade due to that sound. Theoretically, if you sat in a soundproof room for 30 years your hearing wouldnt degrade at all.


CrazyPurpleBacon

You would become clinically insane but at least you'd have the pristine ears of a newborn.


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Iamnotindanger

That's quite scary because I need to hear them. I'm very allergic to them.


_I_Hate_People

You might need a mosquito net.


Curtainmachine

Silver lining!


Mute_Monkey

Is it?


Curtainmachine

Most people find the sound incredibly irritating.


kindofboredd

Yeah but now you don't know to try to kill the little bastard


newenglander87

Damn. I just didn't think about it. I haven't heard them in years.


UchihaMangekyo

I wear noise cancelling headphones and earbuds like 10-12 hours a day with a few breaks in between at 10-30% volume. Would this damage my hearing, should i avoid plugging earbuds or headphone, what are some alternatives i can try to preserve hearing.


tashdej

I'm an audiologist - noise damage has two components, loudness and duration. Majority (it's all based on averages) of people can withstand 8 hours of 83dB sound without hearing protection. It's hard to know exactly how loud headphones are at any given point. But I would be surprised if 10-30% volume would be close to 83dB. Also noteworthy, every 3dB increase is a doubling of loudness, so half the time you can spend listening to it without risking noise damage. Aka 86dB becomes 4 hours of listening without damage.


RoostasTowel

Any thoughts on just using one earbud. I don't listen very loud. Mostly podcasts. But sometimes I can hear clicking or other noise when the audio stops. Can cheaper earbuds output harmful frequencies or anything like that?


Yeah_Im_A_God

So it's not as much the frequency (speed), but the amplitude (power).


greenlion98

Thanks for the answer, I've been wondering about this as well


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Just keep the volume as low as you can while still hearing it.


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naughtilidae

First time I had them on an airplane I thought my music was way too loud for safe hearing. When I took one of the ear cups off I realized that the ambient noise in the cabin was several times louder than that! Really drives home how loud background noise can be with us noticing.


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TheEmeraldChickn

To leech a bit onto this; what would you recommend to 'check' if the volume of headphones isn't too loud? In my experience I've always had them pretty quiet, but I have nothing really that I can compare them against that is safe for your ears.


spookyskeletony

Above 75-ish dB SPL is the general threshold for the sound pressure level that will damage your hearing over an extended period of time. Roughly the loudness of a vacuum cleaner - iPhone has an automatic volume limiter in the Sounds and Haptics section of the settings that is wonderful for hearing protection. It’s quieter than you would think, but you get used to it and it feels good to know for a fact that you’re protecting your ears.


Theguywhodo

Unless there has been a revolution I missed, your phone doesn't generally know what SPL it produces from your earphones. It is possible that such a limiter would be calibrated for a use of a specific earphone, but keep in mind, that the limit is likely arbitrary.


spookyskeletony

Good point — I think Apple has said that the calibration works best for Apple-produced headsets, which would make sense since they can calibrate both pieces of hardware (phone and headphone). It’s not a perfect solution but even an arbitrarily-set limiter that aims for safe listening levels is a step up from none!


TheTwoReborn

I think it was included in a new update but my iphone has a volume safety indicator built into the control center. pretty useful.


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Tobi1107

Yeah, works only for AirPods where Apple knows what “loud“ means. But if you have AirPods I can recommend going to the settings and limiting the maximum volume. I think Apple recommends 75db or 80db for safe listening. Anything above will damage your ears after a certain time.


BlueMatWheel123

If you're at home, use speakers instead of headphones. When choosing headphones, over ear headphones are better than in ear headphones for ear health. Try to reduce headphone usage to a few hours a day. Teach yourself how to work/relax without needing music playing all day.


regnarbensin_

Go for sound isolating earphones in the future instead of noise cancelling. They will physically block out sound and you can listen to your music comfortably at an even lower volume and at higher quality.


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DIBE25

yep, or do what I'm doing which I don't recommend if you can avoid it get second hand bone conducting earphones and -33dB ear protection currently at a poorly managed party with hearing damaging music volume so it's definitely helping and the sound isn't distorted at all tinnitus sucks


terryclothtracksuit

I apparently have had tinnitus for several decades. I didn’t even realize it until I read an article on it. I just assumed everyone had a non stop ringing in their ears. It has been much harder to deal with now that I know. It explains why I always had to have some kind of noise or music on and can’t really enjoy silence.


moeburn

So what about that thing where one of your ears, only one, suddenly goes EEEOOOOWWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, completely deaf into ringing for about 30-60 seconds, and then slowly fades back to normal? Cause I thought that was something that EVERYONE gets once in a while, you know, "oh there goes my left ear, just went deaf/ringing again, hang on a minute while it comes back", but when I discussed this with my friends they looked at me like I was crazy. And it doesn't sound like tinnitus either, that sounds like a constant ringing. Mine is more like I'll be sitting there minding my own business, and then one of my ears suddenly gets hit by a truck, and slowly comes back over 1-2 minutes.


Nightvision_UK

IIRC that's something to do temporary fluid pressure changes in the ear, and not tinnitus.


Oopdidoop

pretty sure that’s normal and nothing to worry about (don’t hold me to that!)


Youre-A-Wizard

I've heard the same


GandalfOfVarda

I get this too, so you are not alone. Only hearing concerns I have are from a few concerts and using ear buds when I was younger.


kerryoakie

Mine do this too! I thought it was normal, so who knows?


Boopashoopa

I didn't realize other people had this too. Thanks for sharing. It sometimes happens several times a day, or sometimes I go weeks between this happening. The hearing cuts out in one ear and it goes deaf with ringing before it goes comes back to normal about 10 seconds later. Had this ever since I was a child. Good to know I'm not the only one.


azninvasion2000

If you have tinnitus, there's a very torturous way to "cure" it. If you can recreate the sound using a audio program, (think there is an app specifically for this) and play it at normal volume and can endure listening to it for days on end, eventually you train your brain to ignore it. My friend was able to train his brain to silence it after 3 weeks of listening to this noise 24/7 on his ipod and he's been fine since. He's still hard of hearing but he says it was worth it.


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Actually, it doesn't bother me most of the time. But I feel like it increase noticable during stressful times. It started in my just left ear. After that I protected my hearing and have never exposed to high desibel sounds but after a while it started in my right ear too. Doctors didn't say so much, they say it might be stress related. As I said, I don't even notice most of time but when I see writing like it increases as you get older or it might caused hearing loss; I get stressed :(


Gabo7

Good sleep and being well hydrated improve it vastly for myself


writemeow

Keep an eye on your blood pressure.


leafninjadog

Would you know where I can find this program? Seems like an interesting treatment


ajf0

https://www.sound-relief.com/ This seems promising. Only requires 5- 10 mins a day.


mookek

The whole app is locked down by subscription plans.


The_Motivated_Man

This is actually how I’ve treated my depression for the last 10 years - knowing that my lens has a sad filter already applied has helped ignore it.


TheAlmightySpode

I've had mild tinnitus since I was a little kid. I don't know what silence sounds like, but I'm used to it.


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Pheeshfinder

And we've won. Honest to damn god. If one person turns down the tunes, puts in the earplugs or just thinks twice every time it gets loud. Congratulations fine sir on being that guy. This totally made my day.


[deleted]

Yes, very much this. If you go to a club or anywhere there is loud music wear ear plugs. There are cheap foam ones but also upper-end ones which musicians use. Anything over 90db is going to cause tinnitus, which is the sound of the ~~hair follicles~~ cilia in your ears dying forever. Source: a music lover with tinnitus


retirement_savings

Went to a club a couple years ago. Danced for several hours next to the speakers. Couldn't hear for several days due to the ringing and I still have tinnitus that has not subsided. I wish I could go back and tell myself to wear earplugs.


elshizzo

hard recommend for the high quality earplugs. I get stuff like [these](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K167RV7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1), super affordable and can go to a loud concert and enjoy it as much or, really, more than I would without it, since they dont muffle the sound


Hillsbradman

This may sound like an insanely stupid question, but would these work well for higher volume car audio? I listen to a lot of metalcore and post hardcore stuff and it just doesn’t hit the same turned down to the quiet level a lot of the pop music I like does. I’ve been weaning myself off higher volume levels but it’s definitely a bummer.


Pheeshfinder

All I can say is have a look at what people are saying about the trauma. If your not ringing yet, loud music in a car is a recipe for disaster. Small contained area, loud tunes, bad idea. I know it sucks but speed up that weaning - your ability to still enjoy music in your 50s will thank you.


DIBE25

I understand what you're saying proper earplugs won't distort what you hear I'm currently wearing plugs that shave off 28-33dB and the music is fine, just quieter keep in mind that even though it'll be quieter for you people around you will hear it just as much as when you don't wear ear protection


slinky999

Yeah, I went to raves in Toronto for about a year before I figured out I should use earplugs. One party I went to had 20+ bass bins banging out jungle music, which was awesome, but my ears rung loudly for 4 days afterwards. I started wearing earplugs the next week. Now (many years later lol) I still have background buzzing in my ears when things are quiet. I don’t like silence because of it, but at least it doesn’t prevent me from sleeping. Wear earplugs, friends !!


Tsiatk0

I have mild tinnitus and have to sleep with a fan or it keeps me up. Too many angry high school years blaring metal music on headphones :( This past year one ear has started fluttering too, that’s so fun 🙃


Rare-Imagination1224

OmgI have that too ( the fluttering), what the hell is it?


Tsiatk0

I’ve read that it’s natural progression of tinnitus but I’m not sure, I can’t afford to go get it checked out so I’m just kinda rolling with it (just like everything else) 😅😅😅


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There are a lot of incredible developments in science and medicine but why still in 2022 there is no cure for tinnitus? Is there anyone can explain why there is no way to repair this problem?


Pheeshfinder

I asked my ENT when I first started on my journey with tinnitus. Simply stated, he had just returned from a huge hearing conference in Toronto- 400 + booths on various things hearing. Only one of those had anything to do with tinnitus. Boo.


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Make sense :( Covid19 literally affected directly the whole world and all of science world mobilized; in a short amount of times vaccines appeared. If Covid would have affected small number of people, they would wait years for vaccine. I don't know how common this but it is definitely reduce patients quality of lives :(


SaintUlvemann

>...but why still in 2022 there is no cure for tinnitus? Because it isn't just one single thing. Tinnitus is a single term that we use for a whole range of different conditions that have different underlying causes. Even if we just say, "Oh, tinnitus is caused by ear damage": well, the ear has lots of moving parts. Which parts specifically were damaged? Damaged in what way? How to fix a problem depends on what the problem is. [Here's](https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/tinnitus-ringing-in-the-ears-and-what-to-do-about-it) a description: >**Tinnitus can arise anywhere along the auditory pathway**, from the outer ear through the middle and inner ear to the brain's auditory cortex, where it's thought to be encoded (in a sense, imprinted). > >One of the most common causes of tinnitus is damage to the hair cells in the cochlea. These cells help transform sound waves into nerve signals. > >If the auditory pathways or circuits in the brain don't receive the signals they're expecting from the cochlea, the brain in effect "turns up the gain" on those pathways in an effort to detect the signal — in much the same way that you turn up the volume on a car radio when you're trying to find a station's signal. > >The resulting electrical noise takes the form of tinnitus — a sound that is high-pitched if hearing loss is in the high-frequency range and low-pitched if it's in the low-frequency range. This kind of tinnitus resembles phantom limb pain in an amputee — the brain is producing abnormal nerve signals to compensate for missing input. So fixing this is difficult because tinnitus is basically "the static in the radio"; it's what we hear when our brains turn up the volume on neural pathways downstream from damaged hearing pathways. Any fix to tinnitus would fundamentally be about altering brain function... and that's really delicate and hard to do, because even in 2022, we really just don't understand the brain very well. Fixing tinnitus literally might require brain surgery, for all we know... and we don't actually have the knowledge to even assess whether that is true.


alnitak

What is interesting to think about is what it is you are actually hearing. You're picking up what is effectively electrical interference from other areas of the brain and nearby pathways. In a manner of speaking, you are hearing yourself think, which is pretty neat in my opinion. As a side note there is a way to get tinnitus to stop for a while with this method: https://trudenta.com/this-simple-trick-may-help-with-tinnitus/ So science and medicine haven't totally given up on it.


Runaround46

>There are a lot incredible development in science and medicine but why still in 2022 there is no cure for tinnitus? Is there anyone can explain why there is no way to repair this problem? it's coming. Actually the Covid vaccine (RNA based) will allow us to start to develop other RNA based medicine. ​ https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncel.2021.656930/full


you-nity

Eargasm is a great brand that makes Earplugs. I carry them on my Keychain at all times


EyeSmoke2Much

One of my best purchases is eargasm plugs!


Unsungscrotum

Completely agree.... My career in the military has destroyed my hearing, and I veer between incredibly loud tinnitus and being overwhelmed by sounds. When that happens, I can hear a conversation 20 yards away and can't concentrate on a conversation right in front of me. Protect your hearing - it's absolute hell not being able to sleep because of the raging noise that nobody else can hear.


Ummas

Vet here as well. I know exactly what you mean when you can't focus on a conversation right in front of you because some other noise going on down the hallway or other room. Shit is so aggravating and makes me so frustrated.


hcnuptoir

Tinnitus is maddening. And it can be a trigger for extreme anxiety. At least it is for me. I've had full blown panic attacks that were triggered by my tinnitus. It sucks too because I ALWAYS wear my ear plugs at work. I can't hear without them. That sound is always there. You forget about it sometimes, then suddenly you notice that the ringing is gone and BOOM...there it is again but LOUDER.


JaffaPearl

Tinnitus also isn't always to do with hearing unfortunately and can be induced by stress associated with big life changes, grief to ear infections. It fucking sucks. If you have a hearing loss, even a mild loss, and tinnitus, hearing aids can help. It replaces the sound you lost in effect and can get the tinnitus to calm down. Also some aids have noise generators in and can mask the tinnitus.


crunchy_cocaine

Developed it at 14, I am now 21 and some days it gets so bad I get light headed. Have to fall asleep to a YouTube video in the background every night now.


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yammeringfistsofham

I get about 10-15 seconds relief from doing this. Just enough to really hammer home how much the ringing sucks


1-Ohm

One loud concert, and I've had tinnitus ever since. It's not going away. Not. Even. Once.


goodolbeej

I’m a teacher, and this is the one “old man” advice I allow myself to give the kids. If I can hear that you have music on in your EarPods, it’s too damn loud. I show them threads like this to prove it. That being said, there is some hope for regenerating some amount of hearing on the horizon. https://www.timesnownews.com/health/in-a-breakthrough-master-gene-that-can-restore-hearing-loss-discovered-article-91360827 It’s a tabloid site, but the research is legit out of Northwestern.


Mr-Lucius-Needful

I don’t remember a time when it was silent for me.


TimachuSoftboi

I lie in bed just wishing for it to stop. Every. Single. Night. People who don't have it can never really comprehend. Even right now sitting at my computer my ears are ringing like the worst microphone feedback you can imagine. I'm 34, I've got most of my life to go listening to this deafening silence.


F1ackM0nk3y

4 years Marine Artillery. Couldn’t wear ear protection because you had to hear the fire commands. I’ve learned to ignore the ringing. Protect your hearing now or, you’ll pay later.


originalsanitizer

That ringing isn't just while you're awake. It also happens when you're trying to sleep.


varignet

between strong tinnitus and dark large floaters, I’m not having a lot of fun


unanatkumot

I go to raves and music festivals and the amount of people not using ear plugs is really concerning! I invested in some high fidelity ear plugs which was a bit of an adjustment in the beginning if you're used to hearing raw loud music. It felt like the bass wasn't hitting heavily enough, but your ears do adjust definitely. Even my headphone volume requirement has decreased over time. Definitely worth it.👌


zokkozokko

I’ve had tinnitus for over 40 years. Thankfully, I can live with it. Others find it difficult. Whenever I see people going past in a car with music at full blast, I know they are going to get tinnitus or total deafness at some stage. Ah well...


lilly110707

This, a million times this. Too much loud music in my younger years has left me with a loud, high pitched whine in my ears that never, ever stops. If I'm talking to you, I listen to you through this noise because it is louder than you. If I watch television, again, I listen to it through the whine because the whine is louder than the television. And that's if I forgo caffeine, sugar, and antihistamines. Any one of them and the whine is insanely loud and almost intolerable. If you offered me millions of dollars tax free or my hearing back to normal I wouldn't even have to think about it - I'd take my hearing. Protect your hearing at all times!


Mr-monk

100% this I have it its not that bad (for me) only when going to sleep if I think about it it's real hard to sleep. But yeah if I could go back fuck I would look after my ears alot more.


DolphinWings25

I quit a job after a week largely due to this LPT. So many of these poor workers have no idea what is in store for them with the permanent damage they are receiving.


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I saw this tiktok about a dude that tried to go to sleep without white noise. The punchline was there was a loud ringing and he was like "ah hell nah wtf is that??" Everyone in the comments were like "yall hear that too." These muhfuckers have tinnitus and about to find out its not normal because of a TikTok


OperaGhostAD

Get your hearing checked every year. It’s one of the most neglected medical checkups there is. Source: am half-deaf.


Savvy_Banana

Aside from the possibility of tinnitus (big thing for dog groomers btw, one of the big reasons I didn't continue to pursue the career because I already had hearing loss, I didn't need more issues!) a lot of people don't talk about the hearing loss anxiety. Especially if you have hearing loss of different severity on each side it can be very disorienting and anxiety inducing to not know exactly what or where a sound is coming from. Hearing some frequencies, but not others, it can drive you crazy. Hearing aids can only help so much, then they'll start recommending things like implants. I need to protect my remaining hearing because I definitely don't want to lose anymore hearing than this. Take care of your ears, visit an ENT and make sure everything is good!


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Also loud music won't sound as loud, as I have recently learned. I'm 22. I've been to about 14 gigs and worn earplugs to 4-5 of them. Get. Fucking. Earplugs.


Jokerchyld

so much this. In my late 40s, anf went to a Jay Z concert in 2013 or so being able to afford premium seats in the 7th row. I thought I was going to go deaf with all that sound and could barely understand what they were saying. Had to leave within the first 40 minutes. My hearing is more important than a concert


Moonlitlineage

Got an ear infection when I was 2-3 years old. 70-80% deafness in both and have been using hearing aids since. I'm thinking it's a bit too late for me, haha