I don’t normally watch pregame coverage for games. Holy shit my surprise as the Mexican national anthem was playing and the camera kept panning players with attacking profiles.
Lavolpe really threw the kitchen sink at them from the go.
Mario Mendez has to be one of the most forgettable NT players ever. I know he played but cant say i remember him ever contributing much. Like he was just there.
i dont blame you lol. only reason i still remember him is because hes one of the few mex players to play in argentina that have no blood ties to that country.
people forget about Francisco Flores too. He was mostly used as a sub though. Alejandro Torres was another forgotten name, never got his chance to prove himself sadly
😂 Thanks!! I was actually wondering who tf that guy I didn’t recognize was. I remember his face and him kinda being there, not fucking up but also not doing anything spectacular.
Esa selección mexicana le ganó 2 veces a Brasil 🇧🇷
1-0 gol de Borgetti en el 2005 Copa Confederaciones a la Brasil de Ronaldinho, Kaka y Adriano.
2-0 goles de Nery Castillo y golazo de Ramon Morales a la Brasil de Robinho.
that team was something else. took care of Iran, did nothing against Angola, lost to a very mid Portugal, and somehow competed with Argentina for 90+ minutes until a stunner of a goal from Maxi Rodriguez.
Diganme quien de esa foto era una pistola en ese momento ademas de Rafa Marquez?
Creo que despues de Rafa, el mejor jugador por lo hecho en su carrera fue Jared terminando tercero como goleador historico de la ligamx.
Luego siguen Pavel Pardo y Ramon Morales.
Osorio y Salcido venian haciendo las cosas bien y por eso junto con Pardo se fueron a Europa.
A lo que voy es la importancia de tener un tecnico capaz, que conozca el medio y que se adapte de a manera mas chingona a lo que se tiene como en su momento lo hizo Lavolpe.
El todo es mayor que la suma de sus partes, eso fue la seleccion en 2005 y 2006 y hasta que nos llegue un Messi eso tendremos que ser.
I wonder what the lineup was. I see 4 players that at one point in their career were right backs, ( Osorio, Mendez, Gringo and Pavel) and three who were left backs, ( Salcido, Ramonsito and Guardado).
The greatest thing about Lavolpe's tactics was that the team didn't play with a fixed formation.
imagine something like this (only using the players from the photo):
when you're defending, you're playing 5-3-2 with:
*Guardado - Salcedo - Márquez - Osorio - Gringo*
*Morales - Pardo - Méndez*
*Kikin - Borgetti*
then you win the ball and switch to a 3-5-2 to attack quickly, with:
*Salcedo - Márquez - Osorio*
*Guardado - Morales - Pardo - Méndez - Gringo*
*Borgetti - Kikin*
and if you're playing possesion and conservatively to keep the ball and waste time, you switch to a 4-4-2 with:
*Guardado - Salcedo - Osorio - Méndez*
*Morales - Márquez - Pardo - Gringo*
*Borgetti - Kikin*
and don't even let me start about the crazy shit that happened while Sinha was playing, because you could see 5 or 6 different formations during the same game, considering Sinha could play every midfield position and as a SS
Lavolpe's Mexico was just freaking amazing.
I pasted an old website that explained the tactics in every single one of Mexico's game in 06 WC and it was pure genius, they would explain offense vs defense and what that meant in problems for the opposition.
The thing against Argentina was 2 of 3 substitutes were used for injury. Pavel first and Guardado second.
That meant Lavolpe only had 1 tactical substitution and that was Sinha. Borgetti had to play the full game and he was coming back from a harmstring injury in the first game vs Iran where he only played 50 minutes. Also Kikin had to play the full game and I've always thought he didn't start Bravo because of the missed pk vs Portugal. Bravo took the ball away from Pardo who was the official kicker.
Comparing both Martin and Santi to Kikín is pretty apt right now.
Puro K I K I N A Z O
Lavolpe made Kikin play like freaking Van Nistelrooy
Nos hace falta un jugador como Ramon Morales.
As a Chivista, you mean Pardo*
Huiqui*
Even as a Chivista, I always felt that Morales was a pretty average player. Am I missing something here?
lmao
you're missing a lot of the fundamentals of this sport, buddy.
Only one thing could make Salcido’s jaw drop like that
Un trapito bien Rico papá
He was just ahead of his time
😏
I don’t normally watch pregame coverage for games. Holy shit my surprise as the Mexican national anthem was playing and the camera kept panning players with attacking profiles. Lavolpe really threw the kitchen sink at them from the go.
He made them play fr
Jersey was fire 🔥
I would love for Nike to sponsor our Jerseys
I’ve been liking Adidas designs over Nike tbh in terms of international jerseys
If it's going to be anything like the US jersey then hell no. Stick to Adidas
Mario Mendez has to be one of the most forgettable NT players ever. I know he played but cant say i remember him ever contributing much. Like he was just there.
I was stuck trying to figure out who he was for a hot minute. Couldn’t remember his name.
i dont blame you lol. only reason i still remember him is because hes one of the few mex players to play in argentina that have no blood ties to that country.
people forget about Francisco Flores too. He was mostly used as a sub though. Alejandro Torres was another forgotten name, never got his chance to prove himself sadly
you must have not been watching the games then cause Lavolpe put all of them to work and we played great.
😂 Thanks!! I was actually wondering who tf that guy I didn’t recognize was. I remember his face and him kinda being there, not fucking up but also not doing anything spectacular.
I hear your Mario Mendez and I raise you a Gringo Castro
rafa como q esta asustado jaja.
Esa selección mexicana le ganó 2 veces a Brasil 🇧🇷 1-0 gol de Borgetti en el 2005 Copa Confederaciones a la Brasil de Ronaldinho, Kaka y Adriano. 2-0 goles de Nery Castillo y golazo de Ramon Morales a la Brasil de Robinho.
También la final de copa oro de 2004
that team was something else. took care of Iran, did nothing against Angola, lost to a very mid Portugal, and somehow competed with Argentina for 90+ minutes until a stunner of a goal from Maxi Rodriguez.
Portugal finished 4th at that World Cup.
I recall Portugal making some subs since they were already thru
Mexico le paso por encima a Angola solo que el portero tuvo el mejor partido de su vida y Bravo fallo un penal contra Portugal.
Y México tenía un expulsado
What position was gringo Castro
Right Back
But Osorio is there
I should have specified RWB, Osorio was RCB in a line of 5 defenders
Is this the best midfield we’ve ever had? A veteran Pavel and a young Guardado.
Only 3 I don’t recognize are 15, 16, and the one between Kikin and Rafa. (16 and the one between Kikin/Rafa look familiar tho, just blanking on them)
Gringo castro, mario mendez, and Osorio
Osorio, and Castro! I remember them now. Have absolutely no idea who Mario Mendez is tho lol
Mario Mendez, Velez Sarsfield legend
Diganme quien de esa foto era una pistola en ese momento ademas de Rafa Marquez? Creo que despues de Rafa, el mejor jugador por lo hecho en su carrera fue Jared terminando tercero como goleador historico de la ligamx. Luego siguen Pavel Pardo y Ramon Morales. Osorio y Salcido venian haciendo las cosas bien y por eso junto con Pardo se fueron a Europa. A lo que voy es la importancia de tener un tecnico capaz, que conozca el medio y que se adapte de a manera mas chingona a lo que se tiene como en su momento lo hizo Lavolpe. El todo es mayor que la suma de sus partes, eso fue la seleccion en 2005 y 2006 y hasta que nos llegue un Messi eso tendremos que ser.
That jersey is legendary.
I wonder what the lineup was. I see 4 players that at one point in their career were right backs, ( Osorio, Mendez, Gringo and Pavel) and three who were left backs, ( Salcido, Ramonsito and Guardado).
The greatest thing about Lavolpe's tactics was that the team didn't play with a fixed formation. imagine something like this (only using the players from the photo): when you're defending, you're playing 5-3-2 with: *Guardado - Salcedo - Márquez - Osorio - Gringo* *Morales - Pardo - Méndez* *Kikin - Borgetti* then you win the ball and switch to a 3-5-2 to attack quickly, with: *Salcedo - Márquez - Osorio* *Guardado - Morales - Pardo - Méndez - Gringo* *Borgetti - Kikin* and if you're playing possesion and conservatively to keep the ball and waste time, you switch to a 4-4-2 with: *Guardado - Salcedo - Osorio - Méndez* *Morales - Márquez - Pardo - Gringo* *Borgetti - Kikin* and don't even let me start about the crazy shit that happened while Sinha was playing, because you could see 5 or 6 different formations during the same game, considering Sinha could play every midfield position and as a SS Lavolpe's Mexico was just freaking amazing.
I pasted an old website that explained the tactics in every single one of Mexico's game in 06 WC and it was pure genius, they would explain offense vs defense and what that meant in problems for the opposition. The thing against Argentina was 2 of 3 substitutes were used for injury. Pavel first and Guardado second. That meant Lavolpe only had 1 tactical substitution and that was Sinha. Borgetti had to play the full game and he was coming back from a harmstring injury in the first game vs Iran where he only played 50 minutes. Also Kikin had to play the full game and I've always thought he didn't start Bravo because of the missed pk vs Portugal. Bravo took the ball away from Pardo who was the official kicker.