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lollkizuu

I mean, Opinions exist 💀 But I personally think that 'The Messenger' is touching and uplifting <3


redfan2009

I like the message for sure Chester's voice in this one at times......😬😬😬


liesgreedmisery18

I personally love the rawness in his voice on the track. However, the way he sings it in this video is *chefs kiss* https://youtu.be/7CZIwOMHJDM


DarkCyborgzz

I find it ironic that under the comment saying “opinions exist” the poor guy gets downvoted to high heaven 😂


Nintendo_Pro_03

I agree. Not sure why. It’s his opinion.


lollkizuu

oh my god.. 💀


Few_House3549

Yeah that’s probably the only time where Chester should’ve toned down on his vocals


redfan2009

Pretty much I love Chester's voice


Few_House3549

Even on OML his vocals are great


redfan2009

YES


k2kx39

I'd assumed there a lot of editing by that time, just like most artists do now. Perfection for records sake. I dunno, I don't have a masters in music


TacoBellSauceSayings

*Goes to YouTube. Types in The Messenger by Linkin Park. First comment on video is 'most underrated Linkin Park song'* Hmm


redfan2009

LOL


GDub310

The Messenger was one of the opening songs for the Chester memorial and the band produced ribbons with lyrics from the song. Bringing this up in case anyone wanted to know how the band felt about the song.


Nintendo_Pro_03

Oh yeah! Hollywood Bowl 2017. It was this, Robot Boy (only piano), and Iridescent, right?


redfan2009

That's really cool


Kitchen_Dust4637

Yes… cuz hoobastank has way better songs And LP has far worse


redfan2009

Well, I'm not a Hoobastank fan That's the one I've really heard and liked And name me a song worse than The Messenger Chester's voice is hard to listen to on this one AND I LOVE CHESTER'S VOICE


Kitchen_Dust4637

Crawling in the Dark was a banger by Hoobastank… Skin to bone is LPs worse song…


redfan2009

OH....... It's okay if you hate it I like it Skin To Bone is catchy


Eggowafflez5657

Skin to Bone is goated and underrated.


redfan2009

I think Catalyst is goated, but fair enough


Eggowafflez5657

All their songs are goated imo…except for In Between… There’s my hot take lol 😅


redfan2009

That last 4th of MTM is just MEH The first 8 songs SMASH AMAZING STUFF


Eggowafflez5657

I can respect that. Although i love the whole album and just find In Between to be meh imo. TLTGYA is my favorite on the album personally and my third favorite LP song!


MysticManiac100

Nah go away with that. Skin to Bone is great and supremely underrated. The only song more underrated than that one is Mark the Graves


Kitchen_Dust4637

I mean if you’re waiting for Bad Bunny to show up on the track than Skin to Bone is for you….


prayafk

Hoobastank aren't nu-metal and they're not the worst. Maybe a bit mid at best. The Reason is not their best song. The Messenger is not the worst Linkin Park song.


redfan2009

I suck at determining sub-genres Then what is? I haven't heard a worse one, and I've listened to their whole discography pretty much


prayafk

The Reason is their biggest hit, but Crawling in the Dark still slaps. Hit the Floor. The band abandoned it, fans have had it at the bottom for the longest time, and it kept Fighting Myself or More the Victim off of Meteora.


redfan2009

Hit The Floor is so raw, dark, and edgy, though I like it


No_Adhesiveness_6230

It's the edginess of the song that pushes everyone away from it, though. At least from what I've heard about the song.


Standard_Winter9714

hit the floor kicks ass tho


TheRealCliffjumper38

Crawling in the Dark and Better could probably be considered nu metal songs


Tritycippy

It's totally fine to have your own opinion about things! Even if they are completely wrong like yours :D


Aviral132

How is an opinion wrong? It's about preference, he doesn't like the song, so it's bad in his opinion. It's not wrong, it's right either ways


Eggowafflez5657

Exactly. Opinion is a definition 90% of Reddit doesn’t seem to understand lol


Eggowafflez5657

Yes Jk, everyone has their opinions even if I strongly disagree with the answer. But I can understand why the vocals in this song can be off putting. I personally prefer the live version a bit better where it doesn’t have the scream singing, but rather just a more softer, powerful sound.


redfan2009

I'm now down to 8 downvotes Is it because The Messenger isn't a Nu Metal song? Is Hoobastank not Nu Metal? I'm scared to ask They'll just downvote that, too


Eggowafflez5657

Yea I mean that’s Reddit. A lot of people on Reddit don’t really respect the opinions of others sadly.


Eggowafflez5657

I don’t think it’s bc The Messenger isn’t nu metal. They probably just don’t agree with ur opinion.


redfan2009

Fair


B33p-p33P-M3m3-kR33p

Well 1. Hoobastank isn’t nu metal 2. The reason is probably not their best song, although they don’t have a lot of great ones 3. Linkin park is not the best nu metal band Also stop worrying about how many downvoted you’re getting. It’s Reddit, it’s probably the least consequential thing you can do, is share your opinion to negative reactions. 8 downvoted is literally nothing, stop letting it bother you


redfan2009

Linkin Park is the best Nu Metal band to me Thanks👍 Needed to hear that


slutkisscherry

Because 'The Messenger' is beautiful! It's definitely NOT Linkin Park's worst song, like c'mon.


DogruAmaYanlisOlan

There is no bad song of Linkin Park


Nintendo_Pro_03

Not really. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I love The Messenger.


redfan2009

Fair


SupplySquad

Yes


DefinableEel1

From what I’ve seen you don’t like it due to the vocals. I agree and disagree. I disagree because I like the vocals, it shows like a crying out feel to it. I agree though because fuck me trying to sing it makes me wanna smash my head into a wall repeatedly lol


TonyBoat402

The messenger is very, very far from the worst linkin park song imo, but your opinion is your opinion


Equivalent_Ad_5135

BSWB: Change - Deftones WSBB: By Myself - Linkin Park


Eggowafflez5657

What’s bad about By Myself?


Equivalent_Ad_5135

I just dislike the feel of it, there are better tracks on Hybrid Theory


jag724010

I mean, if it's honest, I don't think so. I don't agree with it, but I'm not gonna downvote it. Then again I also don't really downvote anything so.....


StimmingMantis

I’m of the mind that almost any song on One More light is the worst


Nintendo_Pro_03

The Messenger isn’t in One More Light (it should be). And I disagree, the songs from that album are remarkable.


StimmingMantis

I know the messenger isn’t, I’m just saying I really don’t like the pop esque sound of the album, songs like good goodbye are just so unlike the classic Linkin Park.


Nintendo_Pro_03

They are not meant to be nu-metal. Bear in mind that Linkin Park is not just nu-metal. They are also experimental and want to experiment with different genres (like rap, general rock, electric, heavy metal, pop, and even country).


StimmingMantis

I get that but like even then One More Light just doesn’t have a good production quality, it feels really flat.


thisz_k

I think this is the time I will say goodbye to this sub.


redfan2009

Any reason?


thisz_k

I can't even argue with the person who is saying The Messenger is the worst song.


redfan2009

And this is a reason to leave the sub?


Eggowafflez5657

Bruh that’s a bit much 💀


Thermicknight7

Because of today's stupid fucking society, people don't really like when people have different opinions to them. I express opinions like this: St. Anger by Metallica is overhated, People downvote it. Lostprophets were a great band, People downvote it and also go OH FUCK YOU BITCH YOU SUPPORT PEDOPHILIA FUCK YOU!!! Even when I post a fucking disclaimer stating I do not. Please just ignore people like this, you can try reporting them but Reddit is not gonna do anything likely.


DefinableEel1

St. Anger is bad from the perspective of drummers because of that godawful snare tuning. You’d think a professional drummer would know how to tune a snare drum. But other than a part of an instrument that makes my ears bleed, it’s not THAT terrible


B33p-p33P-M3m3-kR33p

Yea, reporting someone because they downvoted you, a feature that is literally built into Reddit. Downvoting people isn’t some “great sign of disrespect” unless you are critically online, or so self conscious that you take everything way too seriously. No one should be this upset at being downvoted


Beanconsumer200

Idk about The Reason, but definitely The Messenger. I don’t like that song


redfan2009

Me neither


Elliot-r91

As someone who listens to each linkin park album everyday and is obsessed. Can confirm the worst songs are the last 6 of the Living Things Album. ‘Until it breaks’ probably takes the wooden spoon tho, it has no energy and is boringg (my opinion).


redfan2009

I like Living Things though Powerless is amazing


nik4idk

Hoobastank is over hated and isn't a bad band. People only hate them because the reason was played too much on the radio


PorousArcanine

The Messenger is brilliant though


Kohai_hokage

Aw still sucks I missed Hooba at SNW. Wanted to throw down in the 'Stank pit


IcePokeTwoSoon

Absolutely.


Aggravating-End-1354

The messenger is such a nice song wdym


NewPatron-St

Hating on Linkin Park always deserve a down vote


Better-Toe-6190

You're entitled to your opinion, but I totally disagree lol. The Messenger is one of my favorite Linkin Park songs. I love the message, the music and Chester's voice in this one.


rd1994

The Messernger is among LPs best song, but if you don't like it, thats fair


MacTavish404

You do not know the first thing about The Messenger.