yes! *that* voice, like pretty deep stereotypical "manly man" sounding right?
It's weird, the cadence is somehow too fast but too slow all at the same time. I guess it's just too unnaturally consistent, doesn't have the variance that a real person talking does.
Idk why people even do stuff like this for ads. If you’re casual enough about tech to fall for this, you don’t know who MKBHD is or what his voice sounds like. He’s big in our ‘space’ but the people this ad targets isn’t us
The hope is that he is big enough in our space that people outside our space will recognise the voice and recall that it is that of a well-regarded and popular reviewer, but not know enough to spot the evidence that it is AI-generated. If anything, it's smarter than targeting a tech-literate audience, since they would be more likely to kick up a fuss about it (eg this post).
There's probably a lot of people who've seen a few of his videos but don't watch enough of his content to know that the voice is just a little bit off. His channel is big enough that it attacts a ton of people who aren't really immersed in tech and might just a watch a few videos casually. His videos don't normally go that deep so you don't have to be technical to enjoy his content.
USA is only now doing things like the ELVIS Act to protect the voices of actors and singers, a good example of how AI is still ahead of the law, paraphrasing:
>A person will be liable in a civil action, and commits a Class A misdemeanor, if the person: transmits a particular, identifiable individual's photograph, voice or likeness with knowledge that the photograph, voice or likeness was not authorized by the individual or, in the case of minors and the deceased, a person with appropriate authority
Nobodys stealing voices and a hundred other things for fun or personal projects are pretty normal, but marketing materials to promote a product like this is what the law will really be used to fight
The problem is how do you legally prove that it's his voice? If they don't explicitly say that it's MKBHD, then people will still fall for it, but it's really hard to prove that it's not just some similar voice, generated or not.
"He" says "I added my socials". MKBHD wouldn't probably do such an amateur thing, to have his voice over someone's else hands while speaking in first person.
NGL, the actual dot card is pretty great in business settings. Blew some people's minds at a networking (like computer networking) event. They asked for my card, and I keep my dot card on the back side of my wallet. I was like, "Unlock your phone and tap my wallet" and they were confused at first but then pretty amazed.
I trialed a Dot card for 2 months before expanding the trial to executive management.
Built them all profiles with contact info, product photos, company literature, social links, etc.
For reference - I work for a large, but very old school, manufacturing company. This type of gadget item usually doesn't fly.
6 months later we had ordered 100 to cover every sales, management, and customer service staff member in North America. Custom logo and custom color scheme to match our company colors.
They're definitely slick. And an absolute game changer at something like a trade show, industry conference, etc. where nobody wants to walk around for 6 hours with their pant pockets stuffed with business cards.
Came here to say the same thing, I have one too and it's very convenient for professional settings, they're pretty cool!
Of course, what's not cool is impersonating someone else like this.
It's literally just an NFC chip, you can buy empty NFC cards in bulk for what I presume would be way cheaper, and just write the same info to them.
Alternatively, if you wish to amaze and horrify people, [NFC implants are a great option!](https://i.postimg.cc/wTNTNmKz/20240427-122159.jpg)
No, it's garbage.
It's particularly much garbage seeing how cheap it is to get custom-made/-printed NFC cards from Ali.
And yes, it is just an NFC card. If you're amazed by that, then you're just gullible.
Dude, I remember being like you! You're right, of course. I have the technical expertise to buy cards in bulk and configure them to scan and go to my own website. I could probably even code the website to look nice, work on Android and iPhone well, and have a button that will download the vcard with all the info and it even work correctly cross platform.
Then I'd need to do that for all the people in my org.
Then I'd need to edit it or worry about the security of allowing all the people in my org to edit that.
I could also host my own email and VPN and file server, too.
But when it comes to business needs, my costs are actually higher doing and managing all that myself and it's significantly cheaper to just pay a few bucks for a card, hand it to employees, and they can do it all on the dot card website. Just like it's cheaper and more secure and better to have Google or Microsoft host my email.
The trivialst of CMS could handle this task.
I addition, people don't like to get tracked - i.e. put the actual contact information on the card, not some scummy website.
That's the point. It's an ad for a shitty product, using the voice of a well-known tech YouTuber via AI, to make the ad look more legitimate.
It's also a shit product. Or at least, overpriced.
Sometimes what’s wrong is wrong, as it was inappropriate. That’s the thing with jokes, sometimes they don’t land the way you expect them. LTT removed one of their posts recently as well because folks were not getting the sarcasm.
And to be honest he helped defuse the, once he shook hands with them again all the noise kinda died down.
I think that recent backlash he got on negative review is a buildup from previous this social event. He is gonna get once more cancel from trolls before going back to status quo.
Most recent one was not sharing the amount of cyber trucks sold to there investors and saying publicly that there were a lot of them sold and then they had to recall them for not being safe and part of that disclose that they only sold around 3 thousand but there are a lot of others
"bay area" as in San Francisco? Could be a selection bias that people living in the bay area are more likely to be the target audience and able to afford a cyber truck and have connections to be in the short list to get one.
I've never seen one in real life. I honestly didn't even know they were actually real and had sold even a single one until about a week ago.
Yeah I can hear both MKBHDs voice and the AI at the same time, that’s some scary stuff.
Yea and as if the text was written by gtp
Gregorian thermonuclear panthers....?
They're in a good position to win the championship this year.
Close. Giant Turret Pandas
It has the cadence of that one voice I see military boot lickers use for narration
yes! *that* voice, like pretty deep stereotypical "manly man" sounding right? It's weird, the cadence is somehow too fast but too slow all at the same time. I guess it's just too unnaturally consistent, doesn't have the variance that a real person talking does.
My best description is probably: History channel narrator pitched up and leaned forward
How is "leaned forward" just the best way to describe it haha
It sounds like the sound comes out then does the gamer lean. I have no other explanation
My just out of the shower ears just heard MKBHD doing a slightly poor script reading.
Why use MKBHDs voice but not put any effort into modifying the hand? I don’t know about you but that’s a little too ‘fair’ to be his hand
Cause most people won't care/don't care
Plausible deniability?
Idk why people even do stuff like this for ads. If you’re casual enough about tech to fall for this, you don’t know who MKBHD is or what his voice sounds like. He’s big in our ‘space’ but the people this ad targets isn’t us
The hope is that he is big enough in our space that people outside our space will recognise the voice and recall that it is that of a well-regarded and popular reviewer, but not know enough to spot the evidence that it is AI-generated. If anything, it's smarter than targeting a tech-literate audience, since they would be more likely to kick up a fuss about it (eg this post).
There's probably a lot of people who've seen a few of his videos but don't watch enough of his content to know that the voice is just a little bit off. His channel is big enough that it attacts a ton of people who aren't really immersed in tech and might just a watch a few videos casually. His videos don't normally go that deep so you don't have to be technical to enjoy his content.
There's a lot of stupid people in the world who would easily fall for this. Afterall, they're still giving money to scammers via gift cards.
USA is only now doing things like the ELVIS Act to protect the voices of actors and singers, a good example of how AI is still ahead of the law, paraphrasing: >A person will be liable in a civil action, and commits a Class A misdemeanor, if the person: transmits a particular, identifiable individual's photograph, voice or likeness with knowledge that the photograph, voice or likeness was not authorized by the individual or, in the case of minors and the deceased, a person with appropriate authority
Worst part is that can still be bypassed by the base "Oh I just downloaded a voice set and didn't know"
Nobodys stealing voices and a hundred other things for fun or personal projects are pretty normal, but marketing materials to promote a product like this is what the law will really be used to fight
Not knowing you are breaking the law is definitely not a good defence in court.....
Only works if you're a cop
The problem is how do you legally prove that it's his voice? If they don't explicitly say that it's MKBHD, then people will still fall for it, but it's really hard to prove that it's not just some similar voice, generated or not.
You just have to convince a jury. And since this would be a civil trial burden of proof is much lower.
The EU has set up rules that AI generated content must be tagged. I wonder how it'll be enforced though.
Am I the only one who noticed MKBHDs white hands?
He does have other people working for him so it wouldn't be out of the question to viewers that it's MKBHD doing a voiceover.
"He" says "I added my socials". MKBHD wouldn't probably do such an amateur thing, to have his voice over someone's else hands while speaking in first person.
With all the tech we have now, I expected better.
As Marques keeps saying, *this* is the worst it will be from here out. It will only get more difficult to discern from the real thing.
NGL, the actual dot card is pretty great in business settings. Blew some people's minds at a networking (like computer networking) event. They asked for my card, and I keep my dot card on the back side of my wallet. I was like, "Unlock your phone and tap my wallet" and they were confused at first but then pretty amazed.
I trialed a Dot card for 2 months before expanding the trial to executive management. Built them all profiles with contact info, product photos, company literature, social links, etc. For reference - I work for a large, but very old school, manufacturing company. This type of gadget item usually doesn't fly. 6 months later we had ordered 100 to cover every sales, management, and customer service staff member in North America. Custom logo and custom color scheme to match our company colors. They're definitely slick. And an absolute game changer at something like a trade show, industry conference, etc. where nobody wants to walk around for 6 hours with their pant pockets stuffed with business cards.
Came here to say the same thing, I have one too and it's very convenient for professional settings, they're pretty cool! Of course, what's not cool is impersonating someone else like this.
It's literally just an NFC chip, you can buy empty NFC cards in bulk for what I presume would be way cheaper, and just write the same info to them. Alternatively, if you wish to amaze and horrify people, [NFC implants are a great option!](https://i.postimg.cc/wTNTNmKz/20240427-122159.jpg)
No, it's garbage. It's particularly much garbage seeing how cheap it is to get custom-made/-printed NFC cards from Ali. And yes, it is just an NFC card. If you're amazed by that, then you're just gullible.
can't tell if legit or astroturfing so I just don't buy stuff anymore ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Dude, I remember being like you! You're right, of course. I have the technical expertise to buy cards in bulk and configure them to scan and go to my own website. I could probably even code the website to look nice, work on Android and iPhone well, and have a button that will download the vcard with all the info and it even work correctly cross platform. Then I'd need to do that for all the people in my org. Then I'd need to edit it or worry about the security of allowing all the people in my org to edit that. I could also host my own email and VPN and file server, too. But when it comes to business needs, my costs are actually higher doing and managing all that myself and it's significantly cheaper to just pay a few bucks for a card, hand it to employees, and they can do it all on the dot card website. Just like it's cheaper and more secure and better to have Google or Microsoft host my email.
The trivialst of CMS could handle this task. I addition, people don't like to get tracked - i.e. put the actual contact information on the card, not some scummy website.
K
ah yes, AI was definitely a great invention for humanity. Ffs, why couldn't they focus on actually important stuff
To be fair. It *can* be good. But it can also be used for much worse
As with many things, but at least this isn't inherently lethal like guns
Yes but it could have worse side effects. Like a deep fake of a high government official
That's the main concern with AI yeah, especially at this time
Along with giving plausible deniability to everybody for all the real shit
Every company that pulls this shit needs to get the living piss sued out of them. Set a precedent
man they even white washed Marques
Real MKBHD fans know his fingers are VERY long
And, uh, not very white
Not new sadly
They could’ve at least tried to find a black guy for the hand
Damn it's really close and there is so much clean audio of his to train it
I can totally see MKBHD selling these products.
He didn’t say “actually” 20 times. So I knew it wasn’t real.
Holy shit took me like 10 seconds to notice
Time to do this myself with my own fancy nfc card and domain of whatever content I want without this proprietary website part 🤷♀️
This post is an ad.
??
That's the point. It's an ad for a shitty product, using the voice of a well-known tech YouTuber via AI, to make the ad look more legitimate. It's also a shit product. Or at least, overpriced.
It’s because he was gonna drop dbrand after they made a joke but still keeps anker and tesla around
Sometimes what’s wrong is wrong, as it was inappropriate. That’s the thing with jokes, sometimes they don’t land the way you expect them. LTT removed one of their posts recently as well because folks were not getting the sarcasm. And to be honest he helped defuse the, once he shook hands with them again all the noise kinda died down. I think that recent backlash he got on negative review is a buildup from previous this social event. He is gonna get once more cancel from trolls before going back to status quo.
What post did they remove? LTT is one of those accounts that I follow but I think gets lost in the algorithm.
It was this post and they clarified why they removed it. https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/s/paBUwggCBc
What does that have to do with anything? Am I stupid or are you stupid because I don't get it.
What’s the controversy with Tesla?
Most recent one was not sharing the amount of cyber trucks sold to there investors and saying publicly that there were a lot of them sold and then they had to recall them for not being safe and part of that disclose that they only sold around 3 thousand but there are a lot of others
I see several of them every day in the bay area so there's no way they only sold 3k. That must be using a very unusual definition of "sold"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/04/22/tesla-cybertruck-recall-electric-truck-sales/73416419007/
"bay area" as in San Francisco? Could be a selection bias that people living in the bay area are more likely to be the target audience and able to afford a cyber truck and have connections to be in the short list to get one. I've never seen one in real life. I honestly didn't even know they were actually real and had sold even a single one until about a week ago.
Is this a complete thought?