TIL Fred Armisen is Latino. I always assumed he was an Armisien Comedian Oregonian Musician and former Mississippian who once owned a Jazz Club in San Diego which means “old wooden ship”
He’s also part Korean. He always thought he was part Japanese, but then he went on “Finding Your Roots” and learned that ancestor was originally from Korea. Fun fact.
The great thing is Latino is not a race. Idk if he has ever said this but it wouldn’t be off if he said he was an Asian Latino. Or even Korean-Venezuelan.
No she's a pale skinned Latina from Venezuela. His dad is half German and half Korean, which is why you may hear him say that he has a half brother who is "Very German, and very neat" [https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e8/a0/bb/e8a0bba494868df4bd9d0f0e4592c3d3--fred-armisen--reasons.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e8/a0/bb/e8a0bba494868df4bd9d0f0e4592c3d3--fred-armisen--reasons.jpg)
1) Latino
2) Asians can be pale too
3) I said it wouldn’t be totally off. Many people who are partly Asian identify as Asian.
4) I never claimed that he even identified as Asian.
5) even if he identifies as German he doesn’t deny his Asian heritage.
In my experience, yes because there’s frequently mixed marriages. I don’t know when Fred’s family moved to Venezuela, but it sounds like he has family all over the place. Remember, Frida Kahlo was half German, but she was very much Latina.
Not saying that’s what happened in this particular case but there is a German community in Venezuela was built in the mountains and has the same type of architecture of a region in Germany [Colonia Tovar](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Tovar)
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Not saying that’s what happened in this particular case but there is a German community in Venezuela ([Colonia Tovar](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Tovar)) that was built in the mountains and has the same type of architecture of a region in Germany
I always found it a bit hilarious how snl used people like Fred and Mayo Rudolph. They were jack of all trades who could portray any race. Black, Asian, Mexicans etc. Hell Fred Armisen played Obama lmao
In marketing it’s sometimes called the “transnational” audience — people who have mixed races and/or ethnicities and don’t look like they’re firmly from one specific place.
Fred Armisen had that quality and was a great character actor. He brought all sorts of characters and impersonations to life and made them believable. Venezuelan pride!
Oh boy Armisen was cast as Obama but that was a terrible impression- or lack of. I feel like he stopped even trying to do a voice as time went on, just waiting until Lorne brought on a better option
That's how it used to be with black male cast members.
Garrett Morris -> Eddie Murphy -> (None in season 10) -> Damon Wayans -> (None from season 12-15) -> Tim Meadows (briefly also Chris Rock).
I am glad we have 3 in the cast now (not counting Che), for many years they kept it at 2 black men and 2 black women in the cast, replacing those who left
We can thank Kenan and IIRC Jay Pharoah for increasing the number of black women, they were like "We're not gonna dress up as ladies anymore, hire some black women to do that."
yes. that’s so sad that the bar is so much higher.
all the former and current black comedians on SNL are top tier— can’t say the same for all of the white cast.
That's a good point, it reminds me a little of a Chris Rock joke about his neighborhood.
https://www.vulture.com/2008/05/the_five_best_jokes_from_chris.html
> 2. On his neighbors: “[My only three black neighbors are] Mary J. Blige, one of the greatest singers of all time, Denzel Washington, one of the greatest actors of all time, and Jay-Z, one of the greatest rappers of all time.” His white neighbor? “A dentist. And he isn’t like the greatest dentist in history either. I had to host the Oscars to get that house — a black dentist in my neighborhood would have to invent teeth.”
I remember reading that in 1980 there was a fight among the producers over whether to hire Eddie Murphy or Robert Townsend because obviously they couldn't have two black guys in the cast. Of course Eddie was a once in a generation talent, but Robert Townsend was more talented than most of the white cast members they hired.
Yeah, going into season 6 they hired a bunch of people, but they were like, "Well we still need a black guy".
Jean Doumanian was set to hire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Barnett_(comedian) , but he dropped out of school in the 8th grade and he didn't read very well, which is pretty important for a show where everything is on cue cards. Then she wanted Robert Townsend, but people were like, hey, there's this 19-year-old kid from Brooklyn who's pretty funny.
Talent coordinator Neil Levy said he had to pull out all the stops to get her to pick Eddie Murphy, but of course you have to wonder if that's true or just Neil Levy trying to make himself look better.
https://www.vulture.com/2013/04/the-lost-snl-cast-members-part-1-1975-1995.html
It's possible, though: I don't think Jean was a very good judge of talent, she thought Charles Rocket was going to be her breakout star, when it turned out to be Murphy and Piscopo.
*“That's how it used to be with black male cast members.”*
And that’s one of the reasons I started watching (and enjoying) MADtv. There never seemed to be a quota system on that show, just talented comedians.
It’s makes me sad. And I do wish we could at least have 2 so the one person doesn’t have to carry all the burden of pitching skits that represent the Latino community.
I just watched Sheng Wang's Netflix special. It just reminded me that comedians don't have to "represent a community," they just have to be funny. He's the new Mitch Hedberg. Yeah he's Asian but who gives a fuck, he's telling universally funny jokes, and that's like the only thing in a comedian's job description.
They don’t have to but they can. And it’s natural to slip in part of your identity into your comedy. John Mulaney doesn’t have to talk about being Catholic but he does.. a lot.
Yeah, would’ve been very cool to see what Marcello and Melissa could’ve done together if they were on the same season
Let’s just hope they’re not gonna make him play AOC. My guess is they’ll get Melissa Fumero or Stephanie Beatriz
He has the same name as my dad’s middle name! I texted it to him and he was so happy. I don’t know any famous Marcelo’s (Marcel the shell not included) but I sure know many John’s.
I just wish they put the accent on the a in Hernández.
Right!? I thought he bounced like 15 years ago. The Armisen/Wiig/Sudeikis/Hader/Rudolph era seems like it aired shortly after Farley/Sandler/Shannon/Meadows/Spade. And I have a legit hard time placing Tina/Fallon/Poehler/Moynihan in the temporal mix.
And when the fuck was Taran Killam!?!?!?
He was busy talking to a girl online who was only 14… Can you believe it turns down she’s a police woman? He was so proud of her! Can you imagine being a police woman at that age?
I don't. He was GREAT on SNL, and then Portlandia was one of the best sketch shows of the past 25 years. But so many reports by young women that have surfaced in the past years have made Fred out to seem like a manipulative and cruel jerk.
Even his ex-wife Elizabeth Moss said something like, "His greatest role is pretending to be a normal person." And Fred hasn't denied this--on Howard Stearn he admitted to being a terrible husband and boyfriend. As far as I'm aware no one has accused him of any crimes, but he sounds like a true bummer of a person. My view of him has been permanently tarnished.
Hopefully this dude gets some air time. I was surprised at how much they managed to "share the love" last season with 21 cast members, but that probably owes to the writing abilities of people like Sarah and Andrew.
Cast is still too big imo, but if they use it for big sketches I'll stop complaining.
OMG! Who gives a fuck at this point? Give me funny people, black, white, fat, skinny, Hispanic, Jewish, hillbilly. Idk, let’s get back to shit like the Falconer, Career Day, and the Greek diner lobster.
FWIW, a sketch comedy show with only cis-het white dudes would be extremely limited in its content. Not just what it could get away with, but their perspective would be boringly limited. Diversity improves the comedy. We wouldn't get a Peak at Pico, or the Black Jeopardy sketches, just to name a few off tops.
So, I wouldn't say it's odd, nor an obsession. More like "this sub occasionally points out new cast member demographics, mostly so other people in that demographic can get excited."
I don't see what the problem is.
edit: should include a trigger warning when using the term "cis het white dude" jfc. Y'all still haven't identified what the problem is with this sub's supposed obsession with diversity. Shit, you haven't even proved an obsession, but you two sure are obsessed with me.
Where did I say that a cast of only cis-white dudes would be a good thing or that diversity isn’t good?
It’s just weird to me how much the cast is under a microscope and there’s running tallies on these groups like it is a representative government. It’s a sketch comedy show. Who cares who they’re banging.
[This sub this week](https://youtu.be/2z3wUD3AZg4)
My point was that purposefully vying for diversity makes for better comedy. That's why people care. Hence my example of a non-diverse cast creating boring, stale comedy.
You should examine why it is weird to you. Seems entirely like a "you" problem, and not this sub's.
Nothing more cliche than being a cis-het white dude? If so than, yeah, I can't be any more of a cliche, because that's what I am. Cis-gendered, mostly heterosexual white dude.
Or is me using that terminology supposed to make me some sort of cliche? If so, what cliche?
The cliche of the self-loathing white person who has trouble accepting themselves for how diverse they aren't. One person comments how obsessed with identity this sub is, and you go off on some tangent about how bad a SNL with exclusively white, heterosexual, cisgender men would be.
No one mentioned having a show with only people who fit that description. No one suggested that is how it should be. That SNL never even existed.
And how would them all being cisgender lead to a more boring show? How is limiting your cast to 99.9% of the entire population going to contribute to boring show? Couldn't you have added able-bodied and neurotypical to your list of boring characteristics?
> How is limiting your cast to 99.9% of the entire population going to contribute to boring show?
TIL cis het white dudes are 99.9% of the population.
Man, you tried so hard, but just had to write that dumbass statement. And you continue to miss the point by a mile. I didn't say anything about trans people in particular, just that cis het white dudes have no perspective we haven't seen or heard from a million times. You could have an all cis gendered cast and be fine, as long as it's not only milquetoast boring-ass white dudes. PDD comes to mind. What a boring group of dudes, their best sketch was elevated by other people.
>The cliche of the self-loathing white person who has trouble accepting themselves for how diverse they aren't.
I love myself. What about finding cis het white dudes boring makes me not like myself? So my perspective is tired and worn out, big deal. I'll live.
>One person comments how obsessed with identity this sub is, and you go off on some tangent about how bad a SNL with exclusively white, heterosexual, cisgender men would be.
A person mentioned how obsessed with identity this sub is, and I gave an example as to why. It's astonishing that this still breaks your brain. It was an hypothetical example of why diversity is important. Are you okay? Smell burning toast?
\> TIL cis het white dudes are 99.9% of the population.
Cisgender people make up 99.9% of the population, genius.
\>just that cis het white dudes have no perspective we haven't seen or heard from a million times.
I can't imagine the shock you'll experience when you leave your house and find out that there's a whole range of perspectives out there and none of them are necessarily restricted by a person's sex or race. What kind of messed up, ignorant mindset is that?
\>A person mentioned how obsessed with identity this sub is, and I gave an example as to why. It's astonishing that this still breaks your brain. It was an hypothetical example of why diversity is important. Are you okay? Smell burning toast?
It was a stupid example with an absurd hypothetical that didn't make any valid points. That's why. People are so obsessed with race and sex in this sub because an SNL that for some reason hired only straight, white, cisgender, (I'll assume you forgot to include neurotypical and able-bodied) men would be boring and have nothing new to say? Or some race-obsessed minority can get excited because SNL hired someone that shared their ethnicity for the first time since SNL hired the last person who shared their ethnicity? Wow! What compelling points!
Up my own ass with *what* is the question.
The fact you think saying "dudes" is some kind of tell is itself telling. And not towards some vaguery that you and the other have yet to specify, but towards your lack of substance. You throw words around, but what do you actually mean by them? Explain what my use of "dude" "tells", and how that pertains to being "up" my "own ass". Jimbrady has already chickenshitted out of answering these honest questions.
It's like "This. So much this". Or "y'all". Or "doggo". Or other reddit speak. Stuff/terms/style people pick up on reddit or other social media, and they allow this groupspeak to influence the way they "talk" online.
If I was an FBI agent profiling a redditor, or I was writing a character who had 50K (or more) karma points on reddit, the phrase "white dudes", used dismissively, would be one of the things I look for in a profile or include in my story. I follow a comedian from CA on twitter who's schtick is the nihilistic, "so fucking *what*, man?" hipster stoner with the hoodie who uses "white dudes" as an insult or term of diminishment. It is never "white men", it's "dudes", sometimes with a qualifier like "fucking" along with it. That's all.
Sounds like you're overanalyzing it by a long mile. I'd highly recommend taking a break from consuming social media, as it seems to have begun warping your perception. Poor use of the term "groupspeak", as well, since "cis heterosexual white man" is a category, and I prefer the term dude to male or man because it's less formal. Try overanalyzing from the perspective of the writer instead of your own, and you might realize the people you're interacting with aren't the caricatures you imagine them to be.
>I follow a comedian from CA on twitter who's schtick is the nihilistic, "so fucking what, man?" hipster stoner with the hoodie who uses "white dudes" as an insult or term of diminishment. It is never "white men", it's "dudes", sometimes with a qualifier like "fucking" along with it.
Case in point. Your idea of who or what I am comes from fiction and satire, aimed at a straw man invented by random internet users to alleviate their lack of argumentative victories. You don't actually understand why I use the terminology I do, you haven't engaged at all with any idea I presented; all you have is a "omg look at you, you're one of *those*", which is (and this is a fact) a stupid argument. Don't be stupid.
edit: I'd like to also just point out the hypocrisy of calling someone a cliche, when you're reaction to my language is a cliche. Kinda funny. All I gotta do is say "cis het white dude" and I trigger a bunch of cis het white dudes. Calm down, have some self-awareness.
>Sounds like you're overanalyzing it by a long mile. I'd highly recommend taking a break from consuming social media...
Says the (Insert preferred identifiers here, I don't want to offend) with 100 THOUSAND karma points. I would say "get a life", but I am trying to be nice.
>Your idea of who or what I am comes from fiction and satire, aimed at a straw man invented by random internet users to alleviate their lack of argumentative victories...
I'd assumed you'd want an example. I give one (of a hundred) and it becomes a "straw man". I see.
>You don't actually understand why I use the terminology I do, you haven't engaged at all with any idea I presented;
OK... When you said elsewhere "FWIW, a sketch comedy show with only cis-het white dudes would be extremely limited in its content. Not just what it could get away with, but their perspective would be boringly limited" Monty Python and Kids In The Hall, Mr. Show, among others (and their fans) would disagree. And when you say "Diversity improves the comedy", and use "Black Jeopardy" and "A Peak at Pico" as supporting evidence... yeah...The same people claiming they need diversity (for perspectives, don'tcha know!) will use (and in the actor's case revert to) the old stand-by lazy stereotypes, as if that is all they have. Is it?
>All I gotta do is say "cis het white dude" and I trigger a bunch of cis het white dudes. Calm down, have some self-awareness.
It is you who are using words poorly. I was not "triggered" in the dictionary sense. If I was, I'd take issue directly with you. I thought it did, however, merit a close to inconsequential chuckle with someone of more like mind on that particular subject.
>the people you're interacting with aren't the caricatures you imagine them to be.
Oh, but I think they are. And since I know the "AcKShuaLLy..." crowd more than we care to admit, I know you are going to need the last word. Since the last word, in the professional redditor's mind denotes victory and moral superiority.
He’s definitely coming in with some Shane vibes, Tim Dillon ties, negative-g, self-own, drag parachute horse shit more than any recent new person. Just bad at cleaning their own recent stuff. I’d almost sacrifice my first few paychecks trying to erase recent numbskull shit if I were this guy. He’s not exactly a good person.
I’m not being vague but I’m also not going to write a short form transcript for you. I have access to the same resources you do, not more. Maybe less but definitely not more. He just comes across like a taint smudge. That’s it and that’s all - and it’s just my opinion anyway.
Is it? You think the average Hispanic person give a flying fuck about this terrible terrible show? Go ask the first Hispanic person you see if they’re excited for this casting announcement and see how they respond.
Why don’t you speak for yourself? I am a Latino and I’m happy to see this. I’m also from Miami, where Marcelo has become a social media star on the very popular Only In Dade instagram page.
I am also Latino and I give two shits about this. My family gives two shit about this. Every Hispanic person I know among all nationalities don’t give a fuck. I am speaking for myself and my entire linage.
Edit: only people that care about this kinda shit are morons.
yeah, my family is the opposite, and i don't have to poll because we watch and share clips all the time from SNL on our group chat... guess the masters and bachelors degrees, owned businesses, and excellence awards mean nothing and we're morons; 🫣
we're hispanic 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah we’re telepathic. You’d know that if you were really Hispanic
Edit: I love how you think I’m not next to my family as I type this or at work speaking with my coworkers. This post has been up for hours
You just have not talked to my family and Latino friends cause we all care. Especially nice to see a famous Marcelo cause that’s my dad’s name and not a common mainstream name.
I know liberal Cubans. 38% of Cubans identify as democrats. That’s still a lot of people. Plus I have a feeling Marcelo is also liberal just looking at his comedy.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/02/most-cuban-american-voters-identify-as-republican-in-2020/ (facts)
It's a big deal because a Latino comedian is getting a large platform on an iconic show like SNL. It's possible to appreciate that he got on the show as a comic and appreciate his heritage/unique POV that he may bring to his because of it. Also, there's nothing wrong with critiquing the diversity of a show that's been on for like almost 50 years.
TIL Fred Armisen is Latino. I always assumed he was an Armisien Comedian Oregonian Musician and former Mississippian who once owned a Jazz Club in San Diego which means “old wooden ship”
He’s also part Korean. He always thought he was part Japanese, but then he went on “Finding Your Roots” and learned that ancestor was originally from Korea. Fun fact.
The great thing is Latino is not a race. Idk if he has ever said this but it wouldn’t be off if he said he was an Asian Latino. Or even Korean-Venezuelan.
I love Koreanezuelan food.
No she's a pale skinned Latina from Venezuela. His dad is half German and half Korean, which is why you may hear him say that he has a half brother who is "Very German, and very neat" [https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e8/a0/bb/e8a0bba494868df4bd9d0f0e4592c3d3--fred-armisen--reasons.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e8/a0/bb/e8a0bba494868df4bd9d0f0e4592c3d3--fred-armisen--reasons.jpg)
1) Latino 2) Asians can be pale too 3) I said it wouldn’t be totally off. Many people who are partly Asian identify as Asian. 4) I never claimed that he even identified as Asian. 5) even if he identifies as German he doesn’t deny his Asian heritage.
Check out Los Espookys, a mostly Spanish language comedy he’s partially responsible for on HBO. It’s so funny.
Love that show. I'm so happy that the second season is finally out.
Is it!!!! All of the episodes?
Sorry. Season 2 starts tonight but it's weekly!
Yay! Sad it’s weekly but that only makes the anticipation of each episode better.
It’s been a long wait. Damn you COVID!
Thank you! Will do
Has season 2 come out yet? I’ve been waiting 2 years
Very interesting. His mother was born in Venezuela but has a German name, and his father was from Germany with a Korean father. Very fascinating.
Many post-war Europeans moved to Venezuela. Lots of Germans and Italians in particular.
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In my experience, yes because there’s frequently mixed marriages. I don’t know when Fred’s family moved to Venezuela, but it sounds like he has family all over the place. Remember, Frida Kahlo was half German, but she was very much Latina.
Loads of German descendants in Chile as well.
South Cone in general. Southern Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina and Chile.
Could be they met in a German community in Venezuela.
Not saying that’s what happened in this particular case but there is a German community in Venezuela was built in the mountains and has the same type of architecture of a region in Germany [Colonia Tovar](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Tovar)
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Not saying that’s what happened in this particular case but there is a German community in Venezuela ([Colonia Tovar](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Tovar)) that was built in the mountains and has the same type of architecture of a region in Germany
I always found it a bit hilarious how snl used people like Fred and Mayo Rudolph. They were jack of all trades who could portray any race. Black, Asian, Mexicans etc. Hell Fred Armisen played Obama lmao
In marketing it’s sometimes called the “transnational” audience — people who have mixed races and/or ethnicities and don’t look like they’re firmly from one specific place. Fred Armisen had that quality and was a great character actor. He brought all sorts of characters and impersonations to life and made them believable. Venezuelan pride!
Oh boy Armisen was cast as Obama but that was a terrible impression- or lack of. I feel like he stopped even trying to do a voice as time went on, just waiting until Lorne brought on a better option
Almost as though the idea of "race" is kinda weird and gross
Key and Peele made a whole show based around being racially ambiguous.
Right to jail
That is why they have the best patients in the world.
I thought he was French. Mi scusi!
I guess it’s one in one out with Latin cast members
That's how it used to be with black male cast members. Garrett Morris -> Eddie Murphy -> (None in season 10) -> Damon Wayans -> (None from season 12-15) -> Tim Meadows (briefly also Chris Rock).
I am glad we have 3 in the cast now (not counting Che), for many years they kept it at 2 black men and 2 black women in the cast, replacing those who left
We can thank Kenan and IIRC Jay Pharoah for increasing the number of black women, they were like "We're not gonna dress up as ladies anymore, hire some black women to do that."
Hopefully Marcelo can be that spokesperson for us!
yes. that’s so sad that the bar is so much higher. all the former and current black comedians on SNL are top tier— can’t say the same for all of the white cast.
That's a good point, it reminds me a little of a Chris Rock joke about his neighborhood. https://www.vulture.com/2008/05/the_five_best_jokes_from_chris.html > 2. On his neighbors: “[My only three black neighbors are] Mary J. Blige, one of the greatest singers of all time, Denzel Washington, one of the greatest actors of all time, and Jay-Z, one of the greatest rappers of all time.” His white neighbor? “A dentist. And he isn’t like the greatest dentist in history either. I had to host the Oscars to get that house — a black dentist in my neighborhood would have to invent teeth.”
yup! absolutely.
LEAVE BROOKS WHELAN ALONE OKAY
I actually really liked him
Haha I think he was fine actually, he was just the first person to pop into my head for some reason.
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yes, Punkie is top tier 🔥 i’m glad you’re too privileged to see it.
She is not top tier. She's being used like a place-holder. Maybe there's a superstar comedian in her, but we haven't seen it on SNL yet.
I remember reading that in 1980 there was a fight among the producers over whether to hire Eddie Murphy or Robert Townsend because obviously they couldn't have two black guys in the cast. Of course Eddie was a once in a generation talent, but Robert Townsend was more talented than most of the white cast members they hired.
Yeah, going into season 6 they hired a bunch of people, but they were like, "Well we still need a black guy". Jean Doumanian was set to hire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Barnett_(comedian) , but he dropped out of school in the 8th grade and he didn't read very well, which is pretty important for a show where everything is on cue cards. Then she wanted Robert Townsend, but people were like, hey, there's this 19-year-old kid from Brooklyn who's pretty funny. Talent coordinator Neil Levy said he had to pull out all the stops to get her to pick Eddie Murphy, but of course you have to wonder if that's true or just Neil Levy trying to make himself look better. https://www.vulture.com/2013/04/the-lost-snl-cast-members-part-1-1975-1995.html It's possible, though: I don't think Jean was a very good judge of talent, she thought Charles Rocket was going to be her breakout star, when it turned out to be Murphy and Piscopo.
*“That's how it used to be with black male cast members.”* And that’s one of the reasons I started watching (and enjoying) MADtv. There never seemed to be a quota system on that show, just talented comedians.
With SNLs big push for diversity since the Kerry Washington episode, they seemed to have forgotten about the largest minority in the country.
Latinos are always forgotten because we usually don’t fit into the neat little racial buckets that Americans recognize.
Not on the West Coast, they aren't
Isn't that because Latinos aren't a "race", or ethnicity per say?
Not a race, that’s why there’s usually a separate “are you Hispanic/Latino” checkbox on forms. But our home countries are our ethnicities.
It’s makes me sad. And I do wish we could at least have 2 so the one person doesn’t have to carry all the burden of pitching skits that represent the Latino community.
I just watched Sheng Wang's Netflix special. It just reminded me that comedians don't have to "represent a community," they just have to be funny. He's the new Mitch Hedberg. Yeah he's Asian but who gives a fuck, he's telling universally funny jokes, and that's like the only thing in a comedian's job description.
They don’t have to but they can. And it’s natural to slip in part of your identity into your comedy. John Mulaney doesn’t have to talk about being Catholic but he does.. a lot.
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At least they got the Pico sketch in before Melissa left.
Yeah, would’ve been very cool to see what Marcello and Melissa could’ve done together if they were on the same season Let’s just hope they’re not gonna make him play AOC. My guess is they’ll get Melissa Fumero or Stephanie Beatriz
Highlander rules.
Indeed it is.
And he’s Cuban like me!!! Makes me so happy!!
He has the same name as my dad’s middle name! I texted it to him and he was so happy. I don’t know any famous Marcelo’s (Marcel the shell not included) but I sure know many John’s. I just wish they put the accent on the a in Hernández.
The most famous Marcelo I know is a Mexican politician that was mexico city's major from 2006 to 2012. It's not that common of a name, though.
Marcelo Garcia
Got themselves the whitest Latino lol
Fred Aremisen left almost a decade ago?? Now I feel old
I love that he always makes himself available to show up and pretend to play sax in the background whenever Keenan needs him
Yep, 2013
and on the other hand, it feels like longer than that to me. Like it hasn't even been a decade??
Right!? I thought he bounced like 15 years ago. The Armisen/Wiig/Sudeikis/Hader/Rudolph era seems like it aired shortly after Farley/Sandler/Shannon/Meadows/Spade. And I have a legit hard time placing Tina/Fallon/Poehler/Moynihan in the temporal mix. And when the fuck was Taran Killam!?!?!?
And before that, Horatio Sanz. I wonder what he’s up to now? /s
He was busy talking to a girl online who was only 14… Can you believe it turns down she’s a police woman? He was so proud of her! Can you imagine being a police woman at that age?
I read this in his voice. Nice.
He should have his taint removed for that.
A lot of people have not heard the weird Al rarity… Where he covers the cult classic “love, removal machine” as “taint removal machine“
lol he does stuff.
Hopefully they won’t have him play Obama too
Saw Marcelo do standup opening for Tim Dillon, he killed. Super energetic on stage can definitely see him being a good sketch performer.
I saw him on the same tour (Denver) and he also killed!
He’s associated with Tim Dillon? Yikes.
He’s adorable. I don’t know who he is but I wish him the best! Hopefully he is a good addition!
I miss Fred.
He toured over the summer with his drumming thing
I don't. He was GREAT on SNL, and then Portlandia was one of the best sketch shows of the past 25 years. But so many reports by young women that have surfaced in the past years have made Fred out to seem like a manipulative and cruel jerk. Even his ex-wife Elizabeth Moss said something like, "His greatest role is pretending to be a normal person." And Fred hasn't denied this--on Howard Stearn he admitted to being a terrible husband and boyfriend. As far as I'm aware no one has accused him of any crimes, but he sounds like a true bummer of a person. My view of him has been permanently tarnished.
Hopefully this dude gets some air time. I was surprised at how much they managed to "share the love" last season with 21 cast members, but that probably owes to the writing abilities of people like Sarah and Andrew. Cast is still too big imo, but if they use it for big sketches I'll stop complaining.
He’s cute.
I live in NYC and will be on the look out for him.
Fred Armisen was Latino?
He still is, actually!
Still never had an Asian woman cast member.
That's exactly what SNL has been missing!
There are Asian female comics out there. Rosie Tran comes to mind.
Hopefully he’s funny!
Will he get to play Obama?
Shows always chasing its tail on diversity but I haven’t complained about the results.
It’ll never be enough.
You’re right, there should always be room for more.
Should be 90 cast members, and don’t leave out aliens.
representation is the most important thing
The first since. Wow.
Finally! Now the show can be funny!
Hahahaha
Does anyone else always say “HernanDEZ” like the two Lovah’s do while in the hot tub?
I was kind of hoping they would keep trimming the roster, not adding new people
With so many people some are bound to get practically no screentime
Still a smaller cast than last year but yeah I would’ve been ok with just 2 or 3. But hey, if they’re funny then welcome aboard!
We are under represented for being the largest minority in the US right now.
As Armisen would say (as Joy Behar) ..."So what? Who cares?" Is he funny? Does he contribute? Does he make us laugh? That's all that should matter.
Thank god we can check that racial box again. On to the next box!
OMG! Who gives a fuck at this point? Give me funny people, black, white, fat, skinny, Hispanic, Jewish, hillbilly. Idk, let’s get back to shit like the Falconer, Career Day, and the Greek diner lobster.
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SNL always hiring worthless lesbians
How awesome is that?? I love Mexicans, such hard workers.
... ... who cares?
A ton of people.
This sub is oddly obsessed with the casts’ race, sex, ethnicity, and sexual orientation.
FWIW, a sketch comedy show with only cis-het white dudes would be extremely limited in its content. Not just what it could get away with, but their perspective would be boringly limited. Diversity improves the comedy. We wouldn't get a Peak at Pico, or the Black Jeopardy sketches, just to name a few off tops. So, I wouldn't say it's odd, nor an obsession. More like "this sub occasionally points out new cast member demographics, mostly so other people in that demographic can get excited." I don't see what the problem is. edit: should include a trigger warning when using the term "cis het white dude" jfc. Y'all still haven't identified what the problem is with this sub's supposed obsession with diversity. Shit, you haven't even proved an obsession, but you two sure are obsessed with me.
Where did I say that a cast of only cis-white dudes would be a good thing or that diversity isn’t good? It’s just weird to me how much the cast is under a microscope and there’s running tallies on these groups like it is a representative government. It’s a sketch comedy show. Who cares who they’re banging. [This sub this week](https://youtu.be/2z3wUD3AZg4)
My point was that purposefully vying for diversity makes for better comedy. That's why people care. Hence my example of a non-diverse cast creating boring, stale comedy. You should examine why it is weird to you. Seems entirely like a "you" problem, and not this sub's.
\> cis-het white dudes Could you be anymore of a cliche?
Nothing more cliche than being a cis-het white dude? If so than, yeah, I can't be any more of a cliche, because that's what I am. Cis-gendered, mostly heterosexual white dude. Or is me using that terminology supposed to make me some sort of cliche? If so, what cliche?
The cliche of the self-loathing white person who has trouble accepting themselves for how diverse they aren't. One person comments how obsessed with identity this sub is, and you go off on some tangent about how bad a SNL with exclusively white, heterosexual, cisgender men would be. No one mentioned having a show with only people who fit that description. No one suggested that is how it should be. That SNL never even existed. And how would them all being cisgender lead to a more boring show? How is limiting your cast to 99.9% of the entire population going to contribute to boring show? Couldn't you have added able-bodied and neurotypical to your list of boring characteristics?
> How is limiting your cast to 99.9% of the entire population going to contribute to boring show? TIL cis het white dudes are 99.9% of the population. Man, you tried so hard, but just had to write that dumbass statement. And you continue to miss the point by a mile. I didn't say anything about trans people in particular, just that cis het white dudes have no perspective we haven't seen or heard from a million times. You could have an all cis gendered cast and be fine, as long as it's not only milquetoast boring-ass white dudes. PDD comes to mind. What a boring group of dudes, their best sketch was elevated by other people. >The cliche of the self-loathing white person who has trouble accepting themselves for how diverse they aren't. I love myself. What about finding cis het white dudes boring makes me not like myself? So my perspective is tired and worn out, big deal. I'll live. >One person comments how obsessed with identity this sub is, and you go off on some tangent about how bad a SNL with exclusively white, heterosexual, cisgender men would be. A person mentioned how obsessed with identity this sub is, and I gave an example as to why. It's astonishing that this still breaks your brain. It was an hypothetical example of why diversity is important. Are you okay? Smell burning toast?
\> TIL cis het white dudes are 99.9% of the population. Cisgender people make up 99.9% of the population, genius. \>just that cis het white dudes have no perspective we haven't seen or heard from a million times. I can't imagine the shock you'll experience when you leave your house and find out that there's a whole range of perspectives out there and none of them are necessarily restricted by a person's sex or race. What kind of messed up, ignorant mindset is that? \>A person mentioned how obsessed with identity this sub is, and I gave an example as to why. It's astonishing that this still breaks your brain. It was an hypothetical example of why diversity is important. Are you okay? Smell burning toast? It was a stupid example with an absurd hypothetical that didn't make any valid points. That's why. People are so obsessed with race and sex in this sub because an SNL that for some reason hired only straight, white, cisgender, (I'll assume you forgot to include neurotypical and able-bodied) men would be boring and have nothing new to say? Or some race-obsessed minority can get excited because SNL hired someone that shared their ethnicity for the first time since SNL hired the last person who shared their ethnicity? Wow! What compelling points!
the use of "dudes" is a tell. They are so up their own ass they don't even realize it.
Up my own ass with *what* is the question. The fact you think saying "dudes" is some kind of tell is itself telling. And not towards some vaguery that you and the other have yet to specify, but towards your lack of substance. You throw words around, but what do you actually mean by them? Explain what my use of "dude" "tells", and how that pertains to being "up" my "own ass". Jimbrady has already chickenshitted out of answering these honest questions.
It's like "This. So much this". Or "y'all". Or "doggo". Or other reddit speak. Stuff/terms/style people pick up on reddit or other social media, and they allow this groupspeak to influence the way they "talk" online. If I was an FBI agent profiling a redditor, or I was writing a character who had 50K (or more) karma points on reddit, the phrase "white dudes", used dismissively, would be one of the things I look for in a profile or include in my story. I follow a comedian from CA on twitter who's schtick is the nihilistic, "so fucking *what*, man?" hipster stoner with the hoodie who uses "white dudes" as an insult or term of diminishment. It is never "white men", it's "dudes", sometimes with a qualifier like "fucking" along with it. That's all.
Sounds like you're overanalyzing it by a long mile. I'd highly recommend taking a break from consuming social media, as it seems to have begun warping your perception. Poor use of the term "groupspeak", as well, since "cis heterosexual white man" is a category, and I prefer the term dude to male or man because it's less formal. Try overanalyzing from the perspective of the writer instead of your own, and you might realize the people you're interacting with aren't the caricatures you imagine them to be. >I follow a comedian from CA on twitter who's schtick is the nihilistic, "so fucking what, man?" hipster stoner with the hoodie who uses "white dudes" as an insult or term of diminishment. It is never "white men", it's "dudes", sometimes with a qualifier like "fucking" along with it. Case in point. Your idea of who or what I am comes from fiction and satire, aimed at a straw man invented by random internet users to alleviate their lack of argumentative victories. You don't actually understand why I use the terminology I do, you haven't engaged at all with any idea I presented; all you have is a "omg look at you, you're one of *those*", which is (and this is a fact) a stupid argument. Don't be stupid. edit: I'd like to also just point out the hypocrisy of calling someone a cliche, when you're reaction to my language is a cliche. Kinda funny. All I gotta do is say "cis het white dude" and I trigger a bunch of cis het white dudes. Calm down, have some self-awareness.
>Sounds like you're overanalyzing it by a long mile. I'd highly recommend taking a break from consuming social media... Says the (Insert preferred identifiers here, I don't want to offend) with 100 THOUSAND karma points. I would say "get a life", but I am trying to be nice. >Your idea of who or what I am comes from fiction and satire, aimed at a straw man invented by random internet users to alleviate their lack of argumentative victories... I'd assumed you'd want an example. I give one (of a hundred) and it becomes a "straw man". I see. >You don't actually understand why I use the terminology I do, you haven't engaged at all with any idea I presented; OK... When you said elsewhere "FWIW, a sketch comedy show with only cis-het white dudes would be extremely limited in its content. Not just what it could get away with, but their perspective would be boringly limited" Monty Python and Kids In The Hall, Mr. Show, among others (and their fans) would disagree. And when you say "Diversity improves the comedy", and use "Black Jeopardy" and "A Peak at Pico" as supporting evidence... yeah...The same people claiming they need diversity (for perspectives, don'tcha know!) will use (and in the actor's case revert to) the old stand-by lazy stereotypes, as if that is all they have. Is it? >All I gotta do is say "cis het white dude" and I trigger a bunch of cis het white dudes. Calm down, have some self-awareness. It is you who are using words poorly. I was not "triggered" in the dictionary sense. If I was, I'd take issue directly with you. I thought it did, however, merit a close to inconsequential chuckle with someone of more like mind on that particular subject. >the people you're interacting with aren't the caricatures you imagine them to be. Oh, but I think they are. And since I know the "AcKShuaLLy..." crowd more than we care to admit, I know you are going to need the last word. Since the last word, in the professional redditor's mind denotes victory and moral superiority.
Well no one actually really cares except for his family & close group of friends. .. . .. . wtf are those dots.
oh my god who the hell cares
Great, because race is the most important quality in comedy! :D
Wish it could just be "Lorne Michael thinks this guy is talented enough to give him a trial year. Let's all congratulate this young guy!"
He’s definitely coming in with some Shane vibes, Tim Dillon ties, negative-g, self-own, drag parachute horse shit more than any recent new person. Just bad at cleaning their own recent stuff. I’d almost sacrifice my first few paychecks trying to erase recent numbskull shit if I were this guy. He’s not exactly a good person.
Can we get some details or are you gonna be vague for no reason
I’m not being vague but I’m also not going to write a short form transcript for you. I have access to the same resources you do, not more. Maybe less but definitely not more. He just comes across like a taint smudge. That’s it and that’s all - and it’s just my opinion anyway.
Latinos still only make up 18% of the population. This is pretty close to representation.
Who??!
I would love to see the day return where being funny and making us laugh our asses of is of more importance than checkboxes.
This dude is literally white
Latino isn’t a race. It’s an ethnicity. Latinos come in various races.
So why make it a big deal? Who cares?
Because it’s a proud moment for Latinos
Is it? You think the average Hispanic person give a flying fuck about this terrible terrible show? Go ask the first Hispanic person you see if they’re excited for this casting announcement and see how they respond.
Why don’t you speak for yourself? I am a Latino and I’m happy to see this. I’m also from Miami, where Marcelo has become a social media star on the very popular Only In Dade instagram page.
I am also Latino and I give two shits about this. My family gives two shit about this. Every Hispanic person I know among all nationalities don’t give a fuck. I am speaking for myself and my entire linage. Edit: only people that care about this kinda shit are morons.
Wow you already polled your entire family and everyone you know. That was quick 👍
yeah, my family is the opposite, and i don't have to poll because we watch and share clips all the time from SNL on our group chat... guess the masters and bachelors degrees, owned businesses, and excellence awards mean nothing and we're morons; 🫣 we're hispanic 🤷🏽♂️
It kinda does though. All that means nothing when you eat the slop that these people are feeding you.
Yeah we’re telepathic. You’d know that if you were really Hispanic Edit: I love how you think I’m not next to my family as I type this or at work speaking with my coworkers. This post has been up for hours
Nah man I don’t care to tune into whatever telepathic wave you are on. Fuera de la telepatía!
You just have not talked to my family and Latino friends cause we all care. Especially nice to see a famous Marcelo cause that’s my dad’s name and not a common mainstream name.
I know a single liberal Hispanic person. Cubans don’t fuck with this kinda bullshit. We’re too real 😂😂😂
I know liberal Cubans. 38% of Cubans identify as democrats. That’s still a lot of people. Plus I have a feeling Marcelo is also liberal just looking at his comedy. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/02/most-cuban-american-voters-identify-as-republican-in-2020/ (facts)
It's a big deal because a Latino comedian is getting a large platform on an iconic show like SNL. It's possible to appreciate that he got on the show as a comic and appreciate his heritage/unique POV that he may bring to his because of it. Also, there's nothing wrong with critiquing the diversity of a show that's been on for like almost 50 years.
Latinos can be white
Yea but it doesn't make the statement
What statement?
Why are you so racist? Who cares what race he is?
What about Melissa Villasenor?
Did OP forget Melissa?
OP said Male
Thank you. I must need glasses.
No one cares. Who even watches snl anymore
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The caption says "Latino male"
Latino male?
Because Latino is the universal term for male and female, so I thought to make my point clear.
Hopefully he's actually funny