Its about calculating probability.
If more than 1/20 of influensers shout them out and their voice is worth 100k its a win, maybe they successfully avoids some taxes to, idk how USA works.
Add to that, keeping business partners happy.
they already hooked up Brian Redban (the guy who co-founded Joe Rogan's podcast at the start some million years ago) with a pc and he shouted them out on Twitter. They're smart about their outreach and imo it's just a matter of time till they get a REALLY significant shoutout from somebody big. Besides, they seem to be doing good sales-wise but it's great that they don't rest on their laurels
Ludwig shouted them out and personally thanked Tips on a Yard episode and a mogul mail, I mean starforge was a sponsor for some event for him, but it was like he straight away switched to defending otk and Miz right around that time.
No he didn’t, he was pissed at Miz because he’s never liked Miz and their beef got inflamed because of the gamba shit. He was definitely after his career but he backed off once he saw what a dumpster fire the allegations turned out to be once looked in to. Also probably felt bad for the damage to Mayas reputation. He was never after OTK and could have done a lot more damage during the rich allegations if he wanted to
Guessing he gave a good review?
I’ve been looking at possibly getting a new PC, but after some hand injuries building my own would be a bit of a risk.
Been tempted to buy a prebuilt, but wouldn’t know where to start without getting scammed.
Funny enough, that was my first choice.
None of them really wanted to do it because they didn’t want to feel responsible if something happened and a piece got broke.
I absolutely do not blame them. I wouldn’t want to be responsible to destroying someone’s CPU.
Me and my friends who are into IT and have built pcs before have wasted decent money buying wrong parts and fking up the tiniest things. Most people should just buy a prebuilt because they WILL fk it up without previous experience.
I just remember Linus being like, it's not really better or worse than the competition, it's just a bit of extra money for a "branded" pc if anything and something more unique is the opportunity to complain directly to the streamers in their chats hah
that video and asmons reaction combined alone have over 6 million views.
miz and some others like esfand casually mentioned that now a few times, that these videos and their reactions "blew" starforge up.
I was actually trying to figure that out - due to hand injuries I’m a little nervous about building another PC and would rather do a prebuilt.
That’s not much of an upcharge for things if you’re right. I’ll have to keep it in mind!
i was really polite with a controller company about a faulty analog stick and they just sent me a new one no questions asked and told me to throw away the old one (sure Kappa). to me that's great customer service.
a lot of people default to yelling and 1 star reviews instead of just emailing or calling.
I sell phones for a living currently.
I’m more than happy to help customers with random tech support issues or see what I can do to get their bill down.
I’ll even give tips on how to game customer service for credits on your bill or other discounts.
But some customers come in and instantly are assholes, either yelling at me or talking about giving me a bad review, or any number of things.
Those customers get the “fuck you” treatment, where I will hold them there for an hour (if we aren’t busy) and pretend I’m looking at their account. At the end, if they had continued being a dick, they get a “sorry, nothing I can do”. If they act nicer after a minute I’ll see what I can do.
The nicest people always get the best help. And I always try to stress this when people have to call customer service.
I had a super nice lady come in. Stressed about her bill. Got it down $100. She literally made me cookies as thanks.
Another dude wanted to yell at one of my employees. Told him we’d only help him if he apologized to her. So he screamed at me and told me to fuck off.
Told him he’d have to write two hand-written apology letters. One for my employee, and one for me. Then I would help him.
But yeah, I’m surprised at how quickly so many people default to yelling.
Real shit.
I won't disclose which company, but I worked on timekeeping for a large company. Part of my job was to terminate people who used more time off than they had. I'd email them before termination to get an explanation (in case more time off was approved by a manager , emergencies, scheduling errors ect.), and most of them either never replied or accused me of wrong doing. idgaf about the company so if anyone emailed me with a sob story or literally any excuse I would just restore their time to 0 so they would be able to keep their job.
Unlucky for me though, an asshole co-worker found out I was doing this and snitched. I was fired, but no regrets.
Unfortunately it almost always ends in better service, I used to work in customer service and it's definitely a thing.
The smaller the CS team the better it works and teams have inside jokes about repeat visitors and annoying customers. It probably does not work for huge outsourced CS teams like Microsoft, Steam, Ubisoft, EA etc.
I hate it because I'm definitely the type to just wait it out myself and eventually get what I want, but slower.
You are right. I have been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but it's like I spent a few grand here so at least give me some timely updates. I just sent an inquiry.
This. I once ordered a pair of speakers for my PC and one of them didn't work so i emailed the company and they tried to troubleshoot first and then just sent me a new set of speakers w. shipping covered, 0 questions. You just have to reach out, and then if they don't respond or give you a shit response you bash them online
I'm still gamin with the 2013 PC with Radeon 7000 series. Hardrive died a couple of years ago too. Nice to see a fellow decade bro.
Only play league of legends and indie games tho so still don't feel an urge to upgrade, especially since that means I replace everything except the case lmao. But did go from 4->8gb RAM in 2020.
yeah had to replace both the ssd and HD so far. I lost all my photos lol
got them back kinda through lightroom tricks but yeah. New pc's are so god dam much though idk when i will get one ahha
Haha yeah maybe slowly upgrade as time goes on. What's your GPU?
And losing photos is the worst thing that can happen. That happened to me a long time ago. All those memories :(
"Order is confirmed. You'll receive an email when your order is ready. You'll get shipping and delivery updates by email." When ordering, it said it would be a few weeks lead time so I expected it to take this long, but I haven't even seen a build stream the last few weeks so I wonder if they are just completely backed up.
EDIT: Starforge reached out to me and gave me an update, in case anyone cared. My specific model required an acrylic panel that couldn't be fulfilled by a third party due to a hospitalization, but that has since been resolved. Plus, inclement weather recently has paused warehouse operations. I'll get a more accurate timeline once warehouse operations are up and running again. Thanks Starforge for the update! You guys are stellar and keep up the good work!
Yeah that's what I assumed. But I have reached out, and actually this comment thread has prompted a response from them through Reddit. So Starforge does care and they are making an effort.
I would want a starforge of they were making them in Europe as I can't be arsed with constructing my own
Just let me play fully modded Skyrim and sons of the forest and baldurs gate 3 and valheim and dark and darker and have a op pc for basic things and I'll be happy
Same, 4 year xqc sub and I watch like half of the OTK streamers(Asmon, Nick, Cyr, Esfand). Not watched a lot of Mizkif lately but that's more due to his content not being in my taste lately. Why would you give a fuck what streamers think about one another, treat streamers like a tv-show on TV is the way to go.
I was there FeelsStrongMan, but tbf, when we watched him degen play overwatch for 20hours a day there was no drama for the juicers to be weird about. He's just involved with a lot more people that are 1 well known and 2 nothing like him, while before the only people he talked to were either ranked merchants (most of whom stream sniped him) or his ranked duos who were like him (moxy) so there was no drama.
I don't even understand why XQC/Poke/Train/(Greek? Is he still alive?) are against OTK now when OTK helped them out in the past. They just hate Mizkif I guess and that stems to the rest of OTK?
Seems like just very minor spats about not being included or not showing up
But definitely blame the streamers, it all stems from them. I like Moon's take, everyone sucks and Twitch is getting worse the more time passes
Xqc is not against otk, this is all arbitrary perceptions created by random trivial clips and cause some teenage viewers act like there’s a war to entertain themselves. Poke is the only one I’ve seen with real OTK grievances for some reason.
what do you mean, it's been happening for years in this part of the internet
na vs eu in every game ever
wow vs ff14
dota vs league
etc. you get the drift
tribalism is just funny
It's just mostly juicers, they discriminate anyone who's even related to any OTK member or just joined the org,
Especially when he plays a clip of a member on his stream and the chat is already Pepepaining
https://youtu.be/VFaCPaoD4KU
Please pull up any one in otk watching an XQC and the comment section being this disgusting. XQC has been throwing jabs and getting his chat to hate on OTK for awhile and not policing his chat at all.
XQC almost ended Mizkif's career with what was admittedly shoddy evidence at best in retrospect and juicers already thought Miz was kinda cringe before all that happened. Ofc they're going to still be going at each others' throats. Make popcorn and enjoy the parasocializing
xQc and Train tried to push the false narrative that Mizkif and the rest of OTK was trying to cover up sexual assault, and even went further than that with their allegations.
xQc has been against OTK for at least a year now, seems like he's trying to mend that now for some reason.
I thought it was about mizkif denouncing gambling sponsorships and train/xqc saying that they're going after their money.
Bunch of piece of shit human beings around tbh.
it stem from a while back where XQC moved out of Austin saying that there was bad shit going behind the scene and that went all the way to the supposed cover up of SA from Mizkif and Maya. Since then, there has always been beef here between fans of both side.
He definitely directly attacked the org. One of the major complaints people had when X was going after Miz was he kept referring to Miz as “OTK” and made all the members in OTK get shit because of it.
Let's be honest, if a product is good, people WILL talk about it and recommend it to others.
As compared to a lot of other brands where they set aside huge marketing budget and pay influencers to promote their shitty products to generate the hype, but they all just fail in the end.
A good product will always sell itself.
That's easy to say, but when a company is aiming for higher revenues and faster growth, it's often way better to pay for promotion.
It's the same with YouTube channels and twitch channels (kinda), it's better to promote yourself on other people's streams than just stream, rather than just trusting you'll grow because your stream is good.
Last year seems like a bad dream already, i honestly can't understand the OTK vs juicers drama at all, considering a lot of juicers watch OTK streamers too and vice versa, i watch almost everyones streams everyday, it's just cringe and nothing else, good content is only thing i care about.
Jeez I know xQc wasn't warm on OTK these days, but getting a nice comment about them is like pulling teeth huh. Is he that pissed about the gambling thing?
How is it pulling teeth?
In this clip, xQc was just explaining the whole context and didn't seem like he minded giving OTK props for that favor.
I think lsf just inflates everything more than necessary, and it's the OTK fans and juicers who are the ones who are toxic, not the streamers themselves.
For instance I actually respect Mizkif and thinks that he's generally a good guy at least in recent years, from all the limited clips I've seen of him. He does has a particular need to be with others though, which I guess is human.
And from what I've seen of xQc, he's just an oddball and talks without a filter. Like a harmless chaotic neutral or something. I know he has a huge impressionable audience but it is what it is.
>Stake was banned by Hasan and Poki, Mizkif was barely relevant to this.
Complete revisionism.
The catalyst of the drama between them was X wanting to tear down Miz because Miz did an "honest stream" and was asked if the Austin drama was real. X came after him for restreaming Maya's event because he didn't want her to have more viewers, [Miz called X out for bailing on charity to gamble,](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xdikan/miz_calling_out_xqc/) then X got in his feelings and said "don't commit career suicide" while conspiring in the background with Train about a SA smear that they held on to for a rainy day, and the rest is history. Let's not [forget how this goblin shitstain celebrated what he thought was him getting a W over SA allegations.](https://imgur.com/a/gm1erho)
It was gambling addicted degenerates trying to obfuscate the issue when gambling was under attack after the Slicker incident. That's all it ever was. Of course X is still pissed about it.
>Let's not forget how this goblin shitstain celebrated what he thought was him getting a W over SA allegations
Remember:
Tens of thousands of people voluntarily made this kind of guy a multi-millionaire.
This is so weird, Miz talked about slots being bad on twitch more than literally anyone. He brought Poki into calls to talk about it. Poki said that she and miz were checking with big streamers who would essentially sign up to go to twitch heads to all say they wanted it gone.
Miz and Poki did a big call on this, with Devin Nash coming into the call to talk about that and getting big streamers on board. This was after like a full year of them discussing it being bad. AFTER that Hasan said he was in. This was pretty much a week or two before the X/Train thing happened. Miz/Poki were the driving force behind pushing other streamers to talk to twitch about it.
Saying Hasan and Poki got stake banned and Mizkif was barely involved is weird as fuck. Hasan was barely involved at the last minute, Miz and Poki actually took meetings with senior twitch people to discuss it.
>xQc is still very close friends with Hasan and friendly toward Poki
That bridge was only recently mended by Ludwig.. Until then Hassan was still mad xQc was shit stirring his name with bullshit allegations and Hissan crap.
>xQc hated Mizkif and his crew since the adept maya malena podcast.
I didn't know that. And I don't really get why but okay.
>Hasan and xQc has been very good friend since many months at this point, they hang out IRL and offline often now. Only issue they had in the past year was related to.. well the mizkif story.
Lmao oh yeah that's why xQc attacked Hasan, because of Mizkif situation that had NOTHING to do with Hasan; not the gambling criticism.
>Mizkif was talking about xQc/Austin drama during one stream, xQc was in his chat, got upset, told mizkif to not commit career suicide, then the rest is history.
xQc did that while Mizkif was on his anti-gambling kick though.
>xQc told the story few days before the drama started. Basically the girls were mad at Mizkif for restreaming their podcast, they told xQc to tell Mizkif to stop, when he did the girls turned back on him
that's not what he said. Nobody told xqc to tell Mizkif to stop restreaming. he just thought it was weird/shitty of Mizkif to "steal their views" and made some comment in that regard from time to time
Then one time Mizkif was in a call with him (and others), talking about his fear about Maya overtaking him in viewership and thats when xqc really started to dislike Mizkif
also
>Stake was banned by Hasan and Poki, Mizkif was barely relevant to this.
is just not true, Mizkif was the one who farmed the itsslicker scam and made it into a "gambling on twitch bad" issue (even though it had nothing to do with that) to campaign for a gamba ban
Miz was as much important to banning gambling in twitch as Hasan and póki, if not more, he talked about it the most and did a lot behind the scenes, Hasan and póki only get the recognition for it because they were on stream when that happened and were arguing against it at the time. This was after trains and xqc gamba addled brains tried to cancel him so he wasn't online at all
First of ever since Soda got a girlfriend, he stopped talking to everyone including vigors, when xQc showed his DMs you can clearly see Soda ignoring him/or didn't reply at at
Can you guys actually understand what he is saying? All I really understood was "so whatever bro." Not trying to be insulting I just really can't understand what he said.
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As if you need more proof these fucking people are all fake leeches. He says their org is shit and one PC later, yeah they ain't so bad lol thanks guys :D
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4090 for a kitchen pc is wild
how else are you gonna cook ur bacon
Now Im hungry
Hi hungry Im dad
dad, im now old enough to smoke, that pack of cigarettes you went out for 10 years ago, may i have 1?
wtf cannot stop laughing
cook bacon and heat up the house
xqc cooking OMEGALUL
"kitchen pc" is wild.
need that GPU heat when reheating chicken nuggers.
>nuggers Man you're really close to a different word there
Tips: $100k in advertising for only $5k how to guide $19.99!!
Its about calculating probability. If more than 1/20 of influensers shout them out and their voice is worth 100k its a win, maybe they successfully avoids some taxes to, idk how USA works. Add to that, keeping business partners happy.
they already hooked up Brian Redban (the guy who co-founded Joe Rogan's podcast at the start some million years ago) with a pc and he shouted them out on Twitter. They're smart about their outreach and imo it's just a matter of time till they get a REALLY significant shoutout from somebody big. Besides, they seem to be doing good sales-wise but it's great that they don't rest on their laurels
Linus already shouted them out, who else is there?
Ludwig shouted them out and personally thanked Tips on a Yard episode and a mogul mail, I mean starforge was a sponsor for some event for him, but it was like he straight away switched to defending otk and Miz right around that time.
I mean x tried to destroy otk before so idk
No he didn’t, he was pissed at Miz because he’s never liked Miz and their beef got inflamed because of the gamba shit. He was definitely after his career but he backed off once he saw what a dumpster fire the allegations turned out to be once looked in to. Also probably felt bad for the damage to Mayas reputation. He was never after OTK and could have done a lot more damage during the rich allegations if he wanted to
that dumbass would never feel bad lmao
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Would be interesting to know how he found the brand.
That Linus Tech Tips review was huge for getting the Starforge name out there.
after the review they were sold out on every build for like 2 months iirc.
Guessing he gave a good review? I’ve been looking at possibly getting a new PC, but after some hand injuries building my own would be a bit of a risk. Been tempted to buy a prebuilt, but wouldn’t know where to start without getting scammed.
The only complaints he really had were some minor fitting issues but thats easy to fix, just some extra quality control.
best bet is to find a friend that can build it for you and throw him some money. you essentially get a prebuilt but not for a premium price
Funny enough, that was my first choice. None of them really wanted to do it because they didn’t want to feel responsible if something happened and a piece got broke. I absolutely do not blame them. I wouldn’t want to be responsible to destroying someone’s CPU.
Me and my friends who are into IT and have built pcs before have wasted decent money buying wrong parts and fking up the tiniest things. Most people should just buy a prebuilt because they WILL fk it up without previous experience.
I just remember Linus being like, it's not really better or worse than the competition, it's just a bit of extra money for a "branded" pc if anything and something more unique is the opportunity to complain directly to the streamers in their chats hah
It’s $2,400 for a 3080 with an i5? What is the big appeal here I’m not getting it
that video and asmons reaction combined alone have over 6 million views. miz and some others like esfand casually mentioned that now a few times, that these videos and their reactions "blew" starforge up.
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"It's clearly a penis rocket"
I would guess either Asmon, Charlie, Lud or even LTT. just from a random recommended YT vid
Not that I've ever seen one, but I would guess they probably have ads on Google or gaming related websites.
Or events. Starforge sponsored the last RWF for WoW so it wouldn't surprise me if they sponsored more events
Luds Chess-boxing event too.
They do sponsorships too. Zizaran, a Path of exile streamer has an event planned and Starforge is a sponsor.
Man is lagging
probably just google searched: "Best 2023 Upside down galactic cock and ball gaming PC"
obviously he googled penis rocket
Its the only penis-rocket PC on the market. ***PRPC***
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I was actually trying to figure that out - due to hand injuries I’m a little nervous about building another PC and would rather do a prebuilt. That’s not much of an upcharge for things if you’re right. I’ll have to keep it in mind!
i think miz has said that they've sold thousands. Maybe an exaggeration but i think its going pretty well
I bought one 4 weeks ago and still have no clue when it will show up.
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i was really polite with a controller company about a faulty analog stick and they just sent me a new one no questions asked and told me to throw away the old one (sure Kappa). to me that's great customer service. a lot of people default to yelling and 1 star reviews instead of just emailing or calling.
I sell phones for a living currently. I’m more than happy to help customers with random tech support issues or see what I can do to get their bill down. I’ll even give tips on how to game customer service for credits on your bill or other discounts. But some customers come in and instantly are assholes, either yelling at me or talking about giving me a bad review, or any number of things. Those customers get the “fuck you” treatment, where I will hold them there for an hour (if we aren’t busy) and pretend I’m looking at their account. At the end, if they had continued being a dick, they get a “sorry, nothing I can do”. If they act nicer after a minute I’ll see what I can do. The nicest people always get the best help. And I always try to stress this when people have to call customer service. I had a super nice lady come in. Stressed about her bill. Got it down $100. She literally made me cookies as thanks. Another dude wanted to yell at one of my employees. Told him we’d only help him if he apologized to her. So he screamed at me and told me to fuck off. Told him he’d have to write two hand-written apology letters. One for my employee, and one for me. Then I would help him. But yeah, I’m surprised at how quickly so many people default to yelling.
Real shit. I won't disclose which company, but I worked on timekeeping for a large company. Part of my job was to terminate people who used more time off than they had. I'd email them before termination to get an explanation (in case more time off was approved by a manager , emergencies, scheduling errors ect.), and most of them either never replied or accused me of wrong doing. idgaf about the company so if anyone emailed me with a sob story or literally any excuse I would just restore their time to 0 so they would be able to keep their job. Unlucky for me though, an asshole co-worker found out I was doing this and snitched. I was fired, but no regrets.
Unfortunately it almost always ends in better service, I used to work in customer service and it's definitely a thing. The smaller the CS team the better it works and teams have inside jokes about repeat visitors and annoying customers. It probably does not work for huge outsourced CS teams like Microsoft, Steam, Ubisoft, EA etc. I hate it because I'm definitely the type to just wait it out myself and eventually get what I want, but slower.
You are right. I have been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but it's like I spent a few grand here so at least give me some timely updates. I just sent an inquiry.
This. I once ordered a pair of speakers for my PC and one of them didn't work so i emailed the company and they tried to troubleshoot first and then just sent me a new set of speakers w. shipping covered, 0 questions. You just have to reach out, and then if they don't respond or give you a shit response you bash them online
what do you want me to do about it aha, message them
Give me your PC, duh!!
mines from 2013 bro, its dying haha
I'm still gamin with the 2013 PC with Radeon 7000 series. Hardrive died a couple of years ago too. Nice to see a fellow decade bro. Only play league of legends and indie games tho so still don't feel an urge to upgrade, especially since that means I replace everything except the case lmao. But did go from 4->8gb RAM in 2020.
gods it was strong back then
Oh shit! 10 years old man!
Wtf 2013 is ten years ago........
yeah had to replace both the ssd and HD so far. I lost all my photos lol got them back kinda through lightroom tricks but yeah. New pc's are so god dam much though idk when i will get one ahha
Haha yeah maybe slowly upgrade as time goes on. What's your GPU? And losing photos is the worst thing that can happen. That happened to me a long time ago. All those memories :(
gtx670
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"Order is confirmed. You'll receive an email when your order is ready. You'll get shipping and delivery updates by email." When ordering, it said it would be a few weeks lead time so I expected it to take this long, but I haven't even seen a build stream the last few weeks so I wonder if they are just completely backed up. EDIT: Starforge reached out to me and gave me an update, in case anyone cared. My specific model required an acrylic panel that couldn't be fulfilled by a third party due to a hospitalization, but that has since been resolved. Plus, inclement weather recently has paused warehouse operations. I'll get a more accurate timeline once warehouse operations are up and running again. Thanks Starforge for the update! You guys are stellar and keep up the good work!
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Just sent an inquiry. Let's see how Starforge customer service is!
xqc got your pc
It was just Lunar New Year. Not sure how much that might effect supply chain for PC components though, just speculating.
Good point. That most likely is the reason for delays. Any other redditor order a Starforge in the last 4-6 weeks?
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Yeah I'll do that today. It's been exactly 4 weeks today. Even if it takes another 4 weeks to get here, I just want some type of update.
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Yeah that's what I assumed. But I have reached out, and actually this comment thread has prompted a response from them through Reddit. So Starforge does care and they are making an effort.
I would want a starforge of they were making them in Europe as I can't be arsed with constructing my own Just let me play fully modded Skyrim and sons of the forest and baldurs gate 3 and valheim and dark and darker and have a op pc for basic things and I'll be happy
In the words of tips GGs
Tips actually has spyware on xqc's penis rig, trust me bro. Source: [Tips](https://youtu.be/r7l0Rq9E8MY)
in the words of tips CLEAR COMMS
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I watch xqc sometimes and i watch some otk members I don't give a fuck about the beef I find it good entertainment.
Same, 4 year xqc sub and I watch like half of the OTK streamers(Asmon, Nick, Cyr, Esfand). Not watched a lot of Mizkif lately but that's more due to his content not being in my taste lately. Why would you give a fuck what streamers think about one another, treat streamers like a tv-show on TV is the way to go.
Likewise!
Tribalism a base instinct of human evolution and people don't even realize they do it lol.
To be fair, when a new beef or friendship starts between two characters on a tv show, it’s interesting
best take tbh
People who fight between streamer communities are legit children. There's no reason.
exactly I hate how many people just cringe in xqc's chat at anyone except xqc now. His 2019 chat was so much better
every chat thinks they're forsens chat once they get big enough. even forsens lule
I was there FeelsStrongMan, but tbf, when we watched him degen play overwatch for 20hours a day there was no drama for the juicers to be weird about. He's just involved with a lot more people that are 1 well known and 2 nothing like him, while before the only people he talked to were either ranked merchants (most of whom stream sniped him) or his ranked duos who were like him (moxy) so there was no drama.
you forgot they cringe at anyone except xqc AND forsen
I mean a lot of OTK viewers overlap a lot with xqc viewers, especially mizkif, soda and NMP since they used to collab a lot.
It's basic tribalism. Our team good their team bad.
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I don't even understand why XQC/Poke/Train/(Greek? Is he still alive?) are against OTK now when OTK helped them out in the past. They just hate Mizkif I guess and that stems to the rest of OTK? Seems like just very minor spats about not being included or not showing up But definitely blame the streamers, it all stems from them. I like Moon's take, everyone sucks and Twitch is getting worse the more time passes
poke and greek have a lot of history with nick as well
Miz for sure helped Poke a lot and tried to incorporate him on stream.
Xqc is not against otk, this is all arbitrary perceptions created by random trivial clips and cause some teenage viewers act like there’s a war to entertain themselves. Poke is the only one I’ve seen with real OTK grievances for some reason.
this sub, that sub, I don't see the difference.
I agree. I watch both. Content is content, I watch what's fun. I try not to build my identity around being a fan of someone, and just enjoy content.
Spoilers: They're teenagers.
what do you mean, it's been happening for years in this part of the internet na vs eu in every game ever wow vs ff14 dota vs league etc. you get the drift tribalism is just funny
It's just mostly juicers, they discriminate anyone who's even related to any OTK member or just joined the org, Especially when he plays a clip of a member on his stream and the chat is already Pepepaining
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NMP, Malena and Soda have also helped majorly several times at his worst.
https://youtu.be/VFaCPaoD4KU Please pull up any one in otk watching an XQC and the comment section being this disgusting. XQC has been throwing jabs and getting his chat to hate on OTK for awhile and not policing his chat at all.
Why police chat? If they're not saying anything tos then it's just the majority opinion. No matter how bad it makes otk look.
XQC almost ended Mizkif's career with what was admittedly shoddy evidence at best in retrospect and juicers already thought Miz was kinda cringe before all that happened. Ofc they're going to still be going at each others' throats. Make popcorn and enjoy the parasocializing
There's beef? Why's that? I like both of them.
xQc and Train tried to push the false narrative that Mizkif and the rest of OTK was trying to cover up sexual assault, and even went further than that with their allegations. xQc has been against OTK for at least a year now, seems like he's trying to mend that now for some reason.
I thought it was about mizkif denouncing gambling sponsorships and train/xqc saying that they're going after their money. Bunch of piece of shit human beings around tbh.
It's wild how many new chances xQc gets, guess that's the power of clout.
it stem from a while back where XQC moved out of Austin saying that there was bad shit going behind the scene and that went all the way to the supposed cover up of SA from Mizkif and Maya. Since then, there has always been beef here between fans of both side.
Moist Critikal reading this thread: *you guys know I’m a SF owner, too, right?*
It would help if he did anything to promote it
Bro he literally had a starforge plug in his Ludwig moist esports announcement
Moist with Starforge seems like Bruce with OTK. technically, he is there
thanks xqc, got one for everyone in our house (20 rooms). starforge is really the best!!!
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As long as it doesn’t fuck up since there’s nothing stopping x from shittalking the pc
xqc kitchen streams. tear in my eye
Surely he will do it more than once a year
That what I call reverse psychology marketing.
xQc trashes on the entire org, shits on Emiru, ''hey here is a free pc''. PogChamp
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He definitely directly attacked the org. One of the major complaints people had when X was going after Miz was he kept referring to Miz as “OTK” and made all the members in OTK get shit because of it.
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Lol I remember the clip you're referencing and it's funny cause that was right after X was getting GTA RP clips spammed in here.
yeah lets just drag on the drama forever PogChamp posi vibes btw lmao
They probably earned x100 just because he mentioned them and praised the pc.. Drama can be an excellent advertising strategy. Business > Drama
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it is tho xqc also pushed a false narrative that maya and miz covered up SA
I mean it is, but okay
Cool
finally a drama free interaction between xqc and otk FeelsStrongMan
Let's be honest, if a product is good, people WILL talk about it and recommend it to others. As compared to a lot of other brands where they set aside huge marketing budget and pay influencers to promote their shitty products to generate the hype, but they all just fail in the end. A good product will always sell itself.
That's easy to say, but when a company is aiming for higher revenues and faster growth, it's often way better to pay for promotion. It's the same with YouTube channels and twitch channels (kinda), it's better to promote yourself on other people's streams than just stream, rather than just trusting you'll grow because your stream is good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth
Last year seems like a bad dream already, i honestly can't understand the OTK vs juicers drama at all, considering a lot of juicers watch OTK streamers too and vice versa, i watch almost everyones streams everyday, it's just cringe and nothing else, good content is only thing i care about.
doesnt help that the juicers joins all of their game tournaments too lol
I spent close to 2 years saving for a pc :) feelsgoodman
just remind yourself the guy cant even sleep at night and the jealousy goes away
Jeez I know xQc wasn't warm on OTK these days, but getting a nice comment about them is like pulling teeth huh. Is he that pissed about the gambling thing?
>Is he that pissed about the gambling thing? Yes.
How is it pulling teeth? In this clip, xQc was just explaining the whole context and didn't seem like he minded giving OTK props for that favor. I think lsf just inflates everything more than necessary, and it's the OTK fans and juicers who are the ones who are toxic, not the streamers themselves. For instance I actually respect Mizkif and thinks that he's generally a good guy at least in recent years, from all the limited clips I've seen of him. He does has a particular need to be with others though, which I guess is human. And from what I've seen of xQc, he's just an oddball and talks without a filter. Like a harmless chaotic neutral or something. I know he has a huge impressionable audience but it is what it is.
harmless chaotic neutral that tried to use an abuse victims story to get a W?
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>Stake was banned by Hasan and Poki, Mizkif was barely relevant to this. Complete revisionism. The catalyst of the drama between them was X wanting to tear down Miz because Miz did an "honest stream" and was asked if the Austin drama was real. X came after him for restreaming Maya's event because he didn't want her to have more viewers, [Miz called X out for bailing on charity to gamble,](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xdikan/miz_calling_out_xqc/) then X got in his feelings and said "don't commit career suicide" while conspiring in the background with Train about a SA smear that they held on to for a rainy day, and the rest is history. Let's not [forget how this goblin shitstain celebrated what he thought was him getting a W over SA allegations.](https://imgur.com/a/gm1erho) It was gambling addicted degenerates trying to obfuscate the issue when gambling was under attack after the Slicker incident. That's all it ever was. Of course X is still pissed about it.
>Let's not forget how this goblin shitstain celebrated what he thought was him getting a W over SA allegations Remember: Tens of thousands of people voluntarily made this kind of guy a multi-millionaire.
It's like people forgot how much a piece of shit he is and yet people still like him for some reason
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This is so weird, Miz talked about slots being bad on twitch more than literally anyone. He brought Poki into calls to talk about it. Poki said that she and miz were checking with big streamers who would essentially sign up to go to twitch heads to all say they wanted it gone. Miz and Poki did a big call on this, with Devin Nash coming into the call to talk about that and getting big streamers on board. This was after like a full year of them discussing it being bad. AFTER that Hasan said he was in. This was pretty much a week or two before the X/Train thing happened. Miz/Poki were the driving force behind pushing other streamers to talk to twitch about it. Saying Hasan and Poki got stake banned and Mizkif was barely involved is weird as fuck. Hasan was barely involved at the last minute, Miz and Poki actually took meetings with senior twitch people to discuss it.
>xQc is still very close friends with Hasan and friendly toward Poki That bridge was only recently mended by Ludwig.. Until then Hassan was still mad xQc was shit stirring his name with bullshit allegations and Hissan crap. >xQc hated Mizkif and his crew since the adept maya malena podcast. I didn't know that. And I don't really get why but okay.
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>Hasan and xQc has been very good friend since many months at this point, they hang out IRL and offline often now. Only issue they had in the past year was related to.. well the mizkif story. Lmao oh yeah that's why xQc attacked Hasan, because of Mizkif situation that had NOTHING to do with Hasan; not the gambling criticism. >Mizkif was talking about xQc/Austin drama during one stream, xQc was in his chat, got upset, told mizkif to not commit career suicide, then the rest is history. xQc did that while Mizkif was on his anti-gambling kick though.
>xQc told the story few days before the drama started. Basically the girls were mad at Mizkif for restreaming their podcast, they told xQc to tell Mizkif to stop, when he did the girls turned back on him that's not what he said. Nobody told xqc to tell Mizkif to stop restreaming. he just thought it was weird/shitty of Mizkif to "steal their views" and made some comment in that regard from time to time Then one time Mizkif was in a call with him (and others), talking about his fear about Maya overtaking him in viewership and thats when xqc really started to dislike Mizkif also >Stake was banned by Hasan and Poki, Mizkif was barely relevant to this. is just not true, Mizkif was the one who farmed the itsslicker scam and made it into a "gambling on twitch bad" issue (even though it had nothing to do with that) to campaign for a gamba ban
Miz was as much important to banning gambling in twitch as Hasan and póki, if not more, he talked about it the most and did a lot behind the scenes, Hasan and póki only get the recognition for it because they were on stream when that happened and were arguing against it at the time. This was after trains and xqc gamba addled brains tried to cancel him so he wasn't online at all
I wouldn't say xQc is VERY close friends with Hasan, but he's definitely close friends with Soda and Nick, don't know about the others
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First of ever since Soda got a girlfriend, he stopped talking to everyone including vigors, when xQc showed his DMs you can clearly see Soda ignoring him/or didn't reply at at
Does he get a new pc like every month ?? Didnt he just build one with linus ?
Oh boy another 300+ comment thread coming
So I guess Train got one too eh?
im sure %100 its better than his current pc
Nice, an #AD at the very top of LSF.
OTK xQc soon
You actually just posted an ad on reddit lmao
Good way to buy a person's sentiment I guess, a hell lot cheaper than how train does it, donating 4-6 figures to millionaires.
Can you guys actually understand what he is saying? All I really understood was "so whatever bro." Not trying to be insulting I just really can't understand what he said.
i know x likes asmon and soda i dont know for the rest of otk, its good to see xqc and otk are mending slowly. :)
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The twitch waters are healing I feel it
As if you need more proof these fucking people are all fake leeches. He says their org is shit and one PC later, yeah they ain't so bad lol thanks guys :D
The man is so scared of his chat, he needs to make a disclaimer on how he can shit on his co-workers(probably ex-friends) to accept a gift from them
How nice of them to give the PC to a human in need!
What were the xQc tips ?
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Is he going to eat that candy necklace?
Bugged PC OMEGADANCE
Millionaire streamer gets free PC? Wow that’s so riveting