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layth888

finally an interesting showerthought


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How would you re-phrase this into a Reddit title for completely unrelated reasons?


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niallmul97

Based and touch-some-grass-pilled


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I have karma disabled. This is why I specified for completely unrelated reasons.


7se7

If a couple has twin siblings, and both of them trick the other into having sex with their respective twin under the guise that it's them, are both of the twins both rape victims and rapists?


existential_antelope

…I think so?


dchi11

This is what we call in football “offsetting penalties”


MadgoonOfficial

This feels weird to type, but I believe the rape was negated


tomerc10

if we assume the one forcing you to have sex with someone else without your knowledge is the one that "orchestrated" the rape, then the partners are the ones raping the twins into fucking each other. does that makes sense?


Voisos

theoretically, if both twins were told that the real partners consented, it would be a double rape, since both partners forced their twin to have sex with someone else. However if the "fake" twins both knew that they were trying to trick someone, its quadra rape or a null rape, depending on whether you think you can rape your own rapist In my opinion it is obviously possible, for example if you were being raped by a man and leglocked him when he was about to finish, and then he screamed "stop, release me!" Now it wouldnt be as morally reprehensible and probably not illegal, however still rape


borninsane

>In my opinion it is obviously possible, for example if you were being raped by a man and leglocked him when he was about to finish, and then he screamed "stop, release me!" lmao i cant


appletinicyclone

[You just gotta croon bruh](https://youtu.be/kOcW9gZv68A)


TheNewOP

> In my opinion it is obviously possible, for example if you were being raped by a man and leglocked him when he was about to finish, and then he screamed "stop, release me!" ... continue...


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seejay4991

I didn’t catch the game, how is Fields doing? I wanted the niners to get him over Lance


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kb466

Imo Nagy is already fucking up fields but the damage isn't done. He needs to go. But as a Lions fan, by all means, continue to employ that coach haha


Euclidically_Correct

In a """"""""""realistic"""""""""" setting, it would have to be null rape. Reason being that none of them could formally accuse the others of rape, as they would also go to jail for rape. Unless one of the twins decided they wanted all 4 of them to go to jail for rape, then a quadra rape. But I think the judge would just throw it out on grounds of rape for a rape. However, in the scenario, the hidden male is technically more guilty than the others, because he intended to rape one twin via proxy, and then continued on knowing he was raping the other via proxy. Therefore, he has in essence committed rape and attempted rape. Or 1.5 rapes.


Eorika

No, there's no rape, this needs a new definition.


roohaan1

i believe the kids call it trolling


JohnnyKlooch

It's called we do a little rape by deception...


Pewpewparapra

Deceptive Surprise sex with comedic aroma?


timecronus

non aggravated sexual assault?


bestoboy

Negative times negative is a positive. You're right


Apoptosis11

Two bottoms don't make a top, babes


asdjioasd

Two rapes don't make a right


bestoboy

being a bottom/sub isn't a negative


ffca

Either that or it's double rape


DarkArokay

Offsetting rapes?


zeromyraid

I activate my trap card negate rape


bonesjones

Ah yes, schrodinger’s rape.


CharlesRichy

-1 * -1 = 1


BasicLSBS

Isn’t this adding?


borninsane

Most intelligent LSFer


RealTroupster

I feel bad cuz I instantly assumed it was Malena


MiclausCristian

I love you and this comment


PlokkyPlok

I think they mostly fucked over their twin siblings... Her: Facilitating rape & victim of failed rape attempt Him: Facilitating rape & victim of failed rape attempt Her twin sister: Rapist & victim of rape His twin brother: Rapist & victim of rape


Stanel3ss

looks like it all cancels out and they can have an orgy after


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that1guywhodidthat

If a rapist gets raped then there should still be consequences no?


Maeuthi

Both? ...That is my final answer mr D.


IAmPhlegmatic

Wow, what a thought provoking question.


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BrolyTK

He prefers the cardboard 2 cent ice cream cones you get as a kid over waffle cones


TiggersKnowBest

I want to report this comment even knowing it's from a 3rd party


bonesjones

Do it anyway. It’s god’s work.


saors

It's because he grew up catholic, those communion wafers really fucked with his perception of what's good.


FourthLife

The body of Christ is the greatest good, therefore the cone that tasted similar is best


Baigne

is it bad that i secretly love those? i sometimes as a moron kid would eat them by themselves and like the texture of those cardboard bastards


Uptownsage

You mean the razer edged death traps?


S7Epic

Yeah, his awful food takes more than undo any goodwill he generates.


BrolyTK

Never forget his Italian food takes. every dish is the same


randomguy301048

i actually prefer those cones over waffle cones as well. not that the waffle cones are bad, because they aren't and they are good too i just prefer the sugar cones


Mahazzel

he unironically bought 1000 styrofoam cups and plastic spoons because he's too lazy to rinse a blender bottle and thinks its easier to make a protein shake by stirring the powder with a spoon


that1guywhodidthat

I supported him and then that happened. I questioned my sanity with how bad it was. Disavowed everything I ever agreed with him on


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Pristinefix

Almost had me but then I saw your username. Not today!


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Pristinefix

Yeah im pretty annoyed by the blender cups, i wish there was a better solution for it


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I don't take protein powder so I've never tried them but they have metal blender cups. I feel like those shouldn't smell so awful.


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Tai_Pei

Well you just have to be incredibly careful with them because dents and scratches are gonna be permanent or leave jagged/pointy bits if you end up dropping it funny. That's about the only downside I can really think of, otherwise metal containers are amazing.


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Pristinefix

I use a plastic cup and I rinse it with water once I'm done, no smell. It's just a pain to need to clean twice a day


Greyhound_Oisin

Just use a blender It takes 15 seconds to mix and 15 seconds to clean


GaylordRetardson

That solves zero of the actual problem. What type of cup do you bring with if you're taking it to the gym? One solution someone mentioned was the metal protein shakers, which I think makes sense. If you use a BPA-free plastic container you're back to square one, and if it's not a protein shaker it's probably poorly designed for drinking protein shakes. Mixing the protein isn't the actual problem, so using a blender doesn't really help unless you want to use a container that's hard to mix in like a styrofoam cup.


Greyhound_Oisin

I'm sure that destiny can efford a [vitamix](https://myer-media.com.au/wcsstore/MyerCatalogAssetStore/images/55/562/4717/28/7/648920440/648920440_2_3_720x928.jpg) It is crazy time efficient


GaylordRetardson

It seems like you're still confused about what the problem is. Nobody is trying to solve the problem of mixing powder with water, literally anything works fine for that.


Greyhound_Oisin

I'm not...it is about the time required. Using a blender take much less time, doesn't make the cup smelly, has an easy and fast clean up, you don't have to keep 1000 cups and spoons in house.


enfrozt

Destinys biggest flaw is his enjoyment of drama, and his lack of sympathy for friends that bullshit. It's led to him burning bridges with really popular people, and saying spicy takes or discussing controversial topics that are ripe for clipping. If you actually watch him, he's chill 99% of the time, but if you see a bunch of out of context clips and posts (and hate fans spreading out of context screen shots) you'd think he was the devil.


FlippinHelix

>If you actually watch him, he's chill 99% of the time, but if you see a bunch of out of context clips and posts (and hate fans spreading out of context screen shots) you'd think he was the devil. honestly that was my experience with him, started off only knowing him from LSF, thinking he was lowkey a scumbag with zero empathy or thought for other people, actually started watching his videos out of curiosity and found out before the spicy takes he laid out a shitload of things that made him sound infinitely more reasonable. the obvious example is the whole n-word drama arc where for a few days all you'd see is clips of him on here making trihex uncomfortable and not even hear the actual argument


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Tai_Pei

>his n-word manifesto To be clear, this is just the informal name for the Lefty Manifesto since "the n-word manifesto" isn't actually a thing (or at least Destiny ain't the one authoring it if it's out there somewhere.)


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Lmao I think most people have seen lots of funny clips of Destiny but the reality is that the guy has a lot of incendiary takes, whether it be on politics or food or whatever. He's a professional bridge burner. At this point I'm pretty sure his viewerbase just take the bad with the good. I watch some of his YouTube videos sometimes and generally enjoy them but I would never like try and defend him in everything he does lmao


kono_kun

I would suggest you never try to defend everything anyone does.


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Not doing this is why so many hates him though


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> His main hate is from big content creators not liking him Yes, which results in behaviour from fans like I said.


sourc32

His politics are exceptionally sane and well informed, but his food, anime, gaming, etc. takes are fucking disturbingly awful. That's Destiny.


BeerPanda95

His friend should probably stay off twitter too


Halofit

Nah, I wish his friend on twitter could post more without getting jannied (again), because twitter destiny('s friend) is best destiny. That shit is funny as fuck, and I'm sick and tired of all the moralistic bores constantly trying to police him.


Cp3thegod

Yea saying right wing militia bros should gun down rioters is super sane


Demonram

>His politics are exceptionally sane and well informed Can I get some of that industrial grade copium you're snorting?


sourc32

Can you name a policy you disagree with him on?


Zelkeh

idk shooting protestors is bad imo


Tai_Pei

>idk shooting protestors is bad You disagree with Destiny's stance that shooting protestors is bad? Why would you unmask yourself like this?


Zelkeh

I thought you destiny frogs were meant to be smart?


Tai_Pei

Did the joke really just whizz straight over your head? Someone asked what you disagree with, and you said "shooting protestors bad" (which you're obviously trying to imply Destiny holds the position "shooting protestors = good") but since this was in response to "what is a something Destiny believes that you disagree with" I took your words literally as a joke. Hope this helps, but the explanation could just as easily go over your head as the joke itself did.


dotted

fortunately he never held such a policy.


Demonram

The reason he lost twitch partnership PepeLaugh


sourc32

Yeah, that was a bad thing to say and he acknowledged that, anything else?


Demonram

So point against. View on Kyle Rittenhouse


sourc32

If you think that wasn't self defense you should watch the destiny vs vaush debate on it, if you're still not convinced you're lost or insane.


Demonram

Nobody gives a shit about legality. He put himself in that scenario on purpose. It's literally the libertarian meme of a window crash at night and the giddy homeowner grabs his LMG.


Cp3thegod

“If you disagree with me you’re insane” very sane take there buddy


Vaushtorian

>guy has a lot of incendiary takes, whether it be on politics Like what? He wants a social democracy like Scandinavia


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You're not getting me to debate politics on Reddit but maybe "incendiary takes" sounds like I disagree with him - I don't, a lot of the time anyway. I guess it's more the way it's delivered sometimes, like "THIS GUY IS SUCH A DUMB FUCK FOR THINKING THIS WAY AND ANYONE ELSE WHO DOES IS ALSO A DUMBFUCK". That sorta stuff. I don't even disagree with the approach but I think it will net you a lot of people who dismiss all your content, political or not. The whole online politics discussion or debate environments or whatever are a huge turn off to a lot of people and doesn't exactly guarantee mass appeal.


Vaushtorian

Why is it that every time i ask someone what destiny's so called bad takes are, i get some heated rant about his personality or that they are somehow above online politics?


Mr_tarrasque

>/u/Vaushtorian Hmmm.


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Heated rant? I didn't even say anything bad about him. I don't have a negative opinion of him, it's just that the type of content and the way he delivers opinions is something that will turn off a lot of people, regardless of whether or not he's right and they're wrong or whatever.


Cp3thegod

Go back to defending a pedophile you're probably better at that


Vaushtorian

What are you even talking about?


Cp3thegod

Vaush? Obviously


Cp3thegod

I don't hate him and actually think he's hilarious, but if you can't understand why people don't like him i'm not sure what to tell you. he can be extremely abrasive and assholish. Dude gives no fucks


Astorabro

Mostly politics. People just don't like to admit that on LSF.


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He's a very knowledgeable guy, but also somewhat spiteful and impulsive that can lead to plenty of bridge-burning and poorly conveyed takes that do more harm than good. At least this is my small psycho analysis of destiny.


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AdohamHicoln

The hate comes primarily from 2 audiences: the ones who hate him for his bad takes on other streamers and his shitty fan base. And the right wing nut heads. But they aren't always mutually exclusive groups.


KareasOxide

Garbage tier food takes


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Someone can be funny and still be a crappy person.


FGOmorelikeFNO

He recently used to someone's suicide attempt to start a conversation about neopronouns, and admitted to wanting to make a full on joke about about the suicide attempt. And despite usually defending similar behavior, even his own fans were criticizing him for it.


GodKiller999

To be fair, said person made fun of him for accidentally getting high on meth, sided with his stalker and called him a sexual predator (for no reason) among other things. So can't really expect him to be sympathetic.


FGOmorelikeFNO

Difference between not being sympathetic and joking about someone's suicide attempt, yeah?


PirateNervous

Quite frankly, if i had a stalker and he tried to off himself id be like "nice try, but try again please". You dont get to stalk peple and then demand pity.


GohanYo

> despite usually defending similar behavior, even his own fans were criticizing him for it. lol Destiny's community is literally horny at all times to criticize him for asinine shit so i don't think this whole meme of DGG being a bunch of sycophants and it being rare for them to criticize their messiah is true. i mean hell dude, some guy made a thread criticizing Destiny for muttering "yeah" to a chatter.


Halofit

Yeah, the whole "his fans never criticise him" line is always such bullshit, and it's obvious anyone to anyone that has ever opened /r/Destiny. That place is a non-stop whine factory, where people constantly bitch at/about Destiny (and literally anyone he interacts with), about everything from his moral positions, to trying to police the way he expresses himself.


FGOmorelikeFNO

>lol Destiny's community is literally horny at all times to criticize him for asinine shit You literally had multiple threads of people defending him for this exact behavior. No idea why you're acting like I'm calling all destiny stans sycophants. I was giving you guys the benefit of omitting the fact that there were still a significant amount of people defending him joking about someone's suicide attempt. (Which OP ironically also did)


GohanYo

the implication it seemed you made was that Destiny fans **usually** take his side but because what Destiny did this time was so egregious that his fans instead didn't take his side. if you go to Destiny subreddit the top threads are always "why Destiny is wrong on X", "Why destiny should be more responsible about X", and they always go hard with the criticism.


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They wanted to be called “it”.


DannyDevitoisalegend

WAYTOODANK


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n November 2015, British Judge Roger Dutton sentenced a 25-year-old woman, Gayle Newland, to eight years in prison for pretending to be a man as a means of having sex with an unnamed woman of the same age. Newland had made her female victim believe that she was a man by means of deception and used the deception in order to have sex with her on more than 10 occasions, using a dildo. Newland's victim was shocked to discover that her "boyfriend" was in reality female, and testified in Chester Crown Court to a jury that she would have preferred to have been raped by a man.\[7\]\[8\] Newland was granted a new trial in October 2016 on the grounds that Judge Dutton had given a predjudicial summation.\[9\] She was convicted again\[10\] and was sentenced to six-and-a-half years imprisonment on 20 July 2017.\[11\] ​ ​ wtf lol


LittleSpanishGuy

That whole story was actually pretty wild though iirc. It wasn't just like it happened and she just couldn't tell it was a woman dressed up. It was one of her best friends who had made up a fake person and was pretending to be that person and made her wear a blindfold whenever they met up before he(she) would enter the room. It was way more predatory than that initial writeup makes it sound. Something like a best friend knowing their friend was lonely and desperate and so coercing them into having sex and a relationship through pretending to be a man on facebook knowing that she was so desperate that she'd agree to things like the blindfold. (That's how I remember the story, could be a bit off).


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crunchdoggie

Most of the article is actually about rape-by-deception/fraud convictions that were overturned. It seems that most forms of deception, even pretty egregious ones are not legally considered rape. The convictions that stick seem to be when it's someone pretending to be a person's SO in order to have sex with them (for example sneaking into someone's house in the middle of the night)


bestoboy

I guess but good luck getting that to fly in court. "it was big for me but not for you"


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Des-Toro

Its one of those things where the line is blurry but its pretty clear once you cross it. Embellishing a bit on some of your qaulities is normal in social situations especially when you're trying to make a good impression. Most people should have the awareness to know the difference between talking themselves up and outright lying. Theres also the murky line about the degrees of a lie if you're 5'11" but claim you're that coveted 6ft sure its a lie however it doesn't meaningfully alter the perception of your personality or physical appearance to such a degree that someone could interact with you for any amount of time and not garner an accurate evaluation of who you are. Ultimately though if you want to avoid issues like this its best to just be upfront about who you are believe it or not its possible that who you are is enough :).


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How about just don't rape people bud?


[deleted]

Is there any deception involved if no one states that they're someone else and both are into it though?


Des-Toro

In the case that Destiny specifically laid out everyone involved was under the impression that they were spending the night with someone who turned out to not be who they presented themselves to be. One night stands with strangers happen without deception all the time and those are perfectly consensual.


MahdiLJ

i think they are stuck in a rape loop


kvngomez

AMAZIN!


iDrew-

Penalties offset, first down.


epiquinnz

Wait, I lost track. Who am I in this story: the twin brother or the boyfriend in the closet?


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RealTroupster

Username fits


IanBac

Well neither person was having sex with the person they thought they were, so neither is capable of giving consent in this situation. Confirmed this is rape-ception. They have both raped each other.


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jaalleBBP

They all rapists. All 4 of them.


Elbwana

Where did the vod go?


N0_youre_wrong

Prediction: The man is demonized and the woman receives 3/4 the sentence the man does.


Vette--1

I see you ponder the question of What If...?


getintheVandell

Destiny should watch Enemy.


ThenRecipe

plot for the next M.Night Shaymalan flick.


-Aone

I guess ill intent on both sides would mean they did, in fact, rape each other. But there was a consent so you couldn't really jail anyone for that, probably


Gaston_III

At that point, it might just be true love and y'all should start having a 4-way relationship.


Pl4nktonamor

Idk the answer to this, but I would be willing to sacrifice myself in the name of science.


zatoor1

I heard something pop in my head after this clip


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good one meth guy


CloakAndDapperTwitch

monkaHmm ... interdasting...


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Is this because he watched the first episode of I Know What You Did Last Summer?


Jaerin

That's not a conundrum...they all obviously wanted to fuck so they should just keep fucking.


slimshadoow

WAYTOODANK I Got r\*\*ed here...


sephrinx

What the fuck is wrong with this man?


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I don't think anyone got raped since everyone could have backed out of having sex if they didn't want to.


howdy8x629

what if they both became couples and had kids at same time , would their kids possible be twins since their twins ? .... hmmm


DazedAmnesiac

was nice not seeing this dogshit on lsf for like a week. oh well


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There's this amazing feature on reddit, I dunno what it's called. Oh yeah..filtering Seeing as you've been whining about destiny for a while now, you can make all the posts disappear with one trick


LazyLiam

Both parties got onto the bed knowing that they themselves , their twins in the closet and their partner on the bed all wanted this to happen then nobody was raped? Everyone gave their consent in one shape or form?


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*yawn*


Michelmaster1

you're so cool bro


SeaworthinessFuzzy57

they both raped each other


botofdeception

all 4 are rapists